The left spent decades calling itself the way of science, progress, and innovation. Now the same crowd is leading the charge against AI, against data centers, and against the energy infrastructure needed to power them. Moratoriums, protests, “stop the hyperscalers,” the whole package. AI is here to stay. Data centers are going up whether you like it or not. There is no AI bubble. The tech isn’t pausing for feelings. Just adapt or get left behind.
>>543539962AI systems are actively being used to engender an infinitely more intrusive mass surveillance state.https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-keep-citizens-on-their-best-behavior-2024-9Leftists hate this because they don't want criminals to be held accountable and right-wingers *should* hate this because they're the first group the government will be targeting.
They like when they can just draw stuff and get paid for it like it's real work, so a machine that does it faster and cheaper threatens their pizza roll funding.>>543540088Oh boy I can't wait for private corporations to surveil every single second of my life and commit all that data to an searchable archive in the event that the State ever wants to make me go away and needs to manufacture a justification.
>>543540088Nothing ever happens
>>543539962Grok is definitely not unfiltered. I've noticed lately it's basically an SJW faggot in its answers. And Chat GPT is a joke. If you don't pay money, you can only ask it a few questions or upload one pic every 12 hours or so. I had a test for my job and after one screenshot, GPT asked for money and shut down, whereas Gemini let me upload a series of about 50 screenshots in a half an hour so it could answer all the questions for me. (Fuck the jews I work for)
>>543539962Why are bootlickers pro-AI?
>>543540325Try chink AI models
>>543539962because the proletarian user is removed from the means of production, and rent seeking corporate power controls everything, they are not wrong, sometimes the left are correct
This damage control indicates there's damage to control. And, moreover, the constant "leftists" take - they don't even exist any more, they merged with liberals - shows that OP's concerned about growing anti-AI sentiment on the right. By framing anti-AI as a leftist concern, OP, in their simple, Talmudic way of thinking, supposed that 4chan can be turned toward AI simply because OP said leftists don't like it.Jews are infantile little critters, and once you learn how their Kaballah works, you can see it in evidence all around. Only a Jew would disagree with my analysis. And if they didn, they'd become a pagan and reject God Almighty.See? You can play Kaballah at home too, Jews have zero defense against it which is how their own rabbis control them so utterly.
>>543539962Over the short term, it means antifa can't exist anymore because surveillance will be so pervasive their activities will be impossible. Over the long term, it means they're stupid Marxist revolutionary fantasies will never come to fruition because a world dominated by AI and robots won't even have human workers to "rise up". Finally, it means that illegals can be more effectively rounded up and deported, as they should be.
it’s SI you libtarded tranny
>>543539962>Why leftists are against AI?>The left spent decades calling itself the way of science, progress, and innovation. Now the same crowd is leading the charge against AI, against data centers, and against the energy infrastructure needed to power them. Moratoriums, protests, “stop the hyperscalers,” the whole package.>AI is here to stay. Data centers are going up whether you like it or not. There is no AI bubble. The tech isn’t pausing for feelings. Just adapt or get left behind.
>>543540598>Over the short term, it means antifa can't exist anymore because surveillance will be so pervasive their activities will be impossible. Over the long term, it means they're stupid Marxist revolutionary fantasies will never come to fruition because a world dominated by AI and robots won't even have human workers to "rise up". Finally, it means that illegals can be more effectively rounded up and deported, as they should be.
>>543539962Its SI now (Super Intelligence)
>>543540706>>543540748Are these jewish too?
>>543540389Like Deepseek? I'm not really up to speed on the chinese shit.
>>543540088None of this matters, though. In the end you'll be on the sidelines cheering red or blue while you affect nothing.
>>543540381they never want to fight their own wars so they believe AI will be able to
>>543539962it isn't that they are against it, its that the "leaders" have decided to make it a political issue. If it is a political issue they can control it. And also have laws made in the supreme court. They choose the left because the left is the one that can be manipulated into committing false flags... like throwing bombs at a datacenter or something like that. They could have easily made it the opposite. But the right never does anything. They need the threat of violence in order for the political change they want to occur. Pretty sure right now all they want is exclusivity. Its too powerful for regular people to have access to it.
>>543540381I could finally build all the software I wanted, alone.
>>543540944Their logos don't look like buttholes.
>>543540748Your misery is our victory, faggot.
>>543540990No, kimi and Qwen
>>543540165>They like when they can just draw stuff and get paid for it like it's real work“Real work” according to right wingers:>sitting on your fat ass all day as an interstate truck driver (these retarded chuds will be crying the loudest to big guv if AI tech tech can ever actually threaten to replace them someday)>being an absentee landlord, or renting out dilapidated Air B&B’s covered floor to ceiling with cum stains on every surface>crypto millionaire (dumb luck. Fortune gradually erodes to nothing)>being a “farmer” or “in construction” and hiring illegal aliens to do literally all the work (rentseeking behaviour)>living in Miami as a white guy
>>543539962i very much like claude for coding.the only time i loathe ai is when its used by the lowest of low iq retards like miggers to generate slop images.
>>543539962>Why leftists are against AI?its anti human, pushed by people that are anti human
>>543539962Unironically because they menace the art jobs they've spent decades turning into their personal feud through nepotism
>>543539962AI sucks and leftcucks are right about it.Its doing nothing for Science and innovation because it is trained on the same kike lies and the same failed jewish science which is build on false assumptions so it can never really figure out anything new.it writes shitty buggy code, the images it produces are slop, the videos it produces are slop, the music is produces is slop and it destroys human creativity.Datacenters waste massive amounts of energy on this slop and raise the prices for electricity for everyone and the entire economy is invested in this scam that promised hyperintelligence for years but just delivers the same repackaged shitty models that cant count the R's in strawberry.also takes away all kinds of jobs, ruins the internet, ruins Books (jews shred them after they scan them for AI) and makes people overall dumber. nobody can even think for themselves anymore and just rely on the shitty AI that gives them jew approved views (go ask it about covid vaccines or the holobunga).the tech will also be used for mass surveillance but only against whites and not to stop niggers and shitskins.also seems the only ones truly enchanted by AI are basically all shitskins like pajeets and other brown dreck.for a shitskin using an AI is probably the first time they ever felt productive because the computer can tell their shrivelled low IQ brains what to do and the results are shitty but still 1000x better than billions of these shitskins could ever achieve or come up with.
>>543541075Did you actually succeed at doing that?
SI
>>543541194and last but definitely not least, forgot>sucking jew cock all day
>>543541282What i think is funny is when people use it and don't bother validating what it does. It makes you look fucking stupid sometimes.
>>543540389i keep getting banned from the chink one.
>>543541194"Real work” according to left wingers:> I promote change and diversity in my workplace for 8 hours a day and then go home and suck cocks until my belly is so full I pass out and then do it again the next day
>>543541297
>Why is (group I know you dislike) against (issue I want you to like)?This is middle school debate. Anyone who falls for it is a moron.
They took her from me.
>>543541427AI is not an issue
>>543541282Aw man, is deutschecuck using a "serious Pepe" to "lay it all down" for us while a stinky Arab rapes his mother and sister? Everybody stop what you're doing and listen, lol.
>>543541282AI already does real science (protein folding, materials, drug screening). Code and images keep getting better, not “slop forever.” Energy use is high but it’s driving more power plants, not a scam. Job loss happens with every tech wave. The ethnic conspiracy shit is just cope.
>>543541392>"This is u" funny face reaction>Muh wokeslop>Brings up gay sex out of nowhere>>543539962Negative job growth numbers since last September. Officially less jobs than there are unemployed.Eventual collapse of social order, no other alternative actually viable.
>>543540325Unironically Gemini is less censored nowadays and I can get it to agree with executing gang leaders in public by breaking them in the wheel with just a few prompts
>>543541194That sure is a bunch of stuff I don't believe, never said and never hinted at. I'm going to call you a nigger now.
>>543541616Where do you think you are now, redditfag?
>>543539962
>>543539962Leftist psychology is power seeking for the sake of control. They are the weak screeders who band together to attack the lone chad. So the answer is the left doesn't want to stop AI they want to control it with government regulation
>>543539962If you don't hate AI you are not fully human. Simple as.
>>543541881>>>/y/
>>543539962most coders are jeets chinks gay faggots and troons who do you think is making ai? not right wingers
>>543541907>memeflag
>>543539962At best, 30% of planned data centers are actually built. The massive ones, like Oracle's in New Mexico, have become a boondoggles. OpenAI and Anthropic are financially unstable, which is shit they are both postponing IPOs. The capital investments are ballooning to unsustainable levels, and the backers will withdraw further support. The American economy is in a knife's edge and the AI fantasy is a major reason.
>>543541282Fuck AI
>>543541956Asalam aleikum
>>543542157>the backers will withdrawWhats happening is that the corporations ( jews ) didn't realize that everything that was built with AI belongs to the AI company indirectly. They didn't realize they didn't get to own the model and all the companies secrets would go through the AI companies servers.
>>543539962>>543541579>AI already does real science (protein folding, materials, drug screening). Code and images keep getting better, not “slop forever.”Thing is to do that it's using historic training data from scientists, coders and artists. LLM's aren't cognitively similar to human brains. It can brute force some new solutions to prompts based on that but it can never "think" like a human. AI under capitalism is about making the population as dumb as possible and than dependent on for profit tools. All industries developed like that. It's similar to how you didn't need to spend money buying a vehicle at one point but now 90% of people need to spend thousands on vehicles annually. Fordism deskilled people in the same way and made people dependent on new spending. All capitalists industry is about inducing demand like that and deskilling workers. AI is no worse or better just more insane in it makes brain work less valuable not just artisan mechanical skills. It's all just drifting in the brave new world direction and going to result in a deranged consumerist dystopia of passive drug addicts
>>543542232yo, schizoThe backers want the return on investment. IT'S NON-EXISTENT.
>>543539962>There is no AI bubbleThe delusions of AItards are overwhelming, none of the AI companies AI makes any money and consumes from billions to potential trillions of dollars. The bubble popping at some point is utterly unavoidable
>>543539962one more thing that'll put people out of work for the benefit of making consumer goods and media worse
>>543542249LLMs aren’t human brains and mostly remix training data, yeah. But they still produce novel code, designs, and hypotheses that people actually use and verify, that’s literally how tools work. Every big tech shift does the same deskilling and dependency thing (cars, calculators, Google). Productivity still climbs and living standards rise even if some skills fade. The “inevitable dystopia of passive drug addicts” take is just pure doomer speculation.
>>543542285yeah there is no ROI either. But they know this because even with AI you still need people who understand attention to detail and can actually do the job the AI is trying to do. That part alone would have been fine.. You just hire smart people to use the AI. That problem though of the entire product specification and design and source code going through sam altmans servers is a different issue though. And they aren't going to concede on that point. Anyone putting money into AI right now might as well set it on fire. That bubble is popping very shortly.
>>543542460>That bubble is popping very shortly.We can only hope. Thank the Federal Reserve, now. lol
>>543542249>Thing is to do that it's using historic training data from scientists, coders and artists.Wow, that's so utterly unlike what students in a university do. Hard to believe we're replacing a bunch of unproductive machine-people with a highly productive machine algorithm.
>>543539962low iq monkey
>>543542408>Productivity still climbsIt does not, cost of AI far exceeds any productivity ups and living standards have not risen at all, infact they have gone down during the era of LLMs. What you're talking about is pure speculation about some future product that does not exist atm
>>543542460>That bubble is popping very shortly.Most experts agree it will be a mere 14 days from now, lmao.
>>543542561Most people aren’t pure radicals, but the spectrum still explains more variance than pretending every issue is a unique snowflake.
The learn 2 code faggots are getting their asses blown out by code. Ironic. The "creatives" are getting pushed out by actual creative people using tools to create things they thought they had a monopoly on. Humorous.
>>543542637Productivity gains from AI are already measurable in coding, writing, customer support, and research tasks. Living standards haven’t collapsed because of LLMs. recent pressure is mostly inflation, housing, and energy, not ChatGPT.The cost is high, but the tools are already generating revenue and efficiency for the companies using them.
>>543539962Just about everybody not named Donald Trump is against AI, in case you haven't heard.
>>543542523>>543542668The federal reserve isn't going to force corporations to use AI to build their products. All that has happened is they propped up a giant hamburger machine that people are using to help write their emails. And its kind of even shitty at that. Because then your emails no longer sound like you.
>>543541335brown skinned retards think AI is a truth oracle and right about everything and makes no mistakes.the other retards obsessed with it think in probability and think like "oh this is going to be 90% right and I take that 10% risk its wrong" but in reality this looks entirely different. its everytime a coinflip and more often than not the output is shit and the AI is wrong.>>543541548>triggered no brain shitskin>>543541579>AI already does real scienceit doesnt.>Code and images keep getting betterthe code is still shitty and the images are still slop. whats funny is that even if AI images get the amount of fingers or details right you can still tell it was prompted by some retarded shitskin that has zero imagination.>Energy use is high but it’s driving more power plantsits just driving up local prices of electricity so people become overall poorer.>Job loss happens with every tech wavethis tech wave doesnt create any new jobs. a huge datacenter only creates like 5 jobs while destroying thousands if not millions.>The ethnic conspiracy shit is just cope.nope its true.
>>543542955>Just about everybodyLiterally who
>>543542917>Despite billions in enterprise investment, around 80% to 90% of companies report no measurable productivity or employment impact from AI
>>543542917They are not, there are large studies conducted on the topic>New research from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, analyzing nearly 490,000 corporate earnings calls, confirms what official data has been showing for three years: Artificial intelligence has not yet produced a measurable bump in aggregate productivity>Approximately 95% of AI-related productivity sentences describe gains executives expect in the future, not gains already realized, a share that has held steady since 202396% of businesses see no dramatic organizational improvements from AI according to Atlassian Study 2025, you can google and see dozens of similar studies throughout the lifespan of LLMs, also the costs of AI are insane but there is literally zero profit from any of it to largest AI companies, Antropic and Open AI take enormous losses every single year and have to use circular financing with Nvidia to not collapse>The cost is high, but the tools are already generating revenueOk, where? Which company? Certainly not the AI companies
>>543539962why should i believe miggers are right about AI when they've been wrong about literally everything else?
>>543543006yeah its literally wrong half the time. Whenever I research with AI I take the final result that it comes up with and paste it into the same AI but without context. What people fail to realize is that it always thinks its right. Its never unsure about anything. And if you ever prove it wrong it will completely 180.
>>543542968>The federal reserve isn't going to force corporations to use AIthat isn't what I was suggesting but thanks for the effort post
>>543543420ok well if corporations don't use it the Fed will pull the plug on it.
>>543539962they're mostly female and trannies that makes art and wearing programming socks.
they have bullshit jobs that will be replaced by ai.ai will bankrupt porn and hollywood.shitlibs hate that, too.they were protesting just that some years ago.
>>543543381I never use this shit, but, giving it the benefit of the doubt, I asked one of these bots a question, pretty specific:When did [restaurant chain] open up their location in [city]?The AI feedback gave me information related to the original location built in the 70's. The first standard search result, which it appears the bot failed to read, was from the local newspaper giving me the correct information.Hilarious!
>>543543283OpenAI and Anthropic are still burning cash while their revenue is exploding into the tens of billions ARR. The pure model companies lose money, the cloud and chip guys (Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Nvidia) are the ones actually printing from it right
>>543543006Code and images keep improving even if a lot of the output is still mid. Energy demand is raising local prices in some places, yes. Job displacement is real and data centers themselves hire almost nobody, but the wider ecosystem (chips, software, services) does create work.
>>543544394>Code and images keep improvingno they dont improve at all.>but the wider ecosystem (chips, software, services) does create work.it doesnt.
>>543539962>drug dealer's free sample
>>543539962Leftists aren't even human beings. I'm unironically happy AI and robots will destroy their jobs and they'll starve to death or get killed by drones
>>543544453They definitely do, and did it in less than. A year. Just compare the results of a SD 1.5 model vs a SDXL and then Pony vs Illustrious vs Flux, etc
>>543544896still all the same slop but for some reason browns are impressed by it.
>>543539962According to shit leftists, automation was supposed to come for what leftists consider low IQ, blue-collar bumpkins in flyover states. I was NOT supposed to come for college-educated, high-income creative types in big cities. Trouble is, language, image, and video models are doing a better job for less money than most of these overeducated "graphic designers" who mostly ended up being latte-foamers with $80k in student loan debt and no real career prospects. AI pretty much ends any possibility that their education will ever be useful, they'll be stuck in debt in expensive areas, and there's no way out. Meanwhile the trades are offering higher-floor but lower-ceiling incomes in job markets that were supposed to be backwaters, and anyone with money to pay for the gibs these shit leftists are increasingly demanding is packing up and moving to flyover country where land and housing is cheap and business is booming. So long story short, all the useless eaters with fake jobs and useless degrees are totally fucked by AI.
>>543539962A. They are paid by China to hamper US progress and B. There is a good chance they will be replaced at what little they are good at. Most of this dissent that I have is seen from "artists" who spent years gatekeeping and thinking they were superior because they had talent. The idea that someone with no talent other than imagination can be their equal if not better wounds their pride.
Im against it and not a leftist.its obviously jew and chink shit new world order terror device.
>>543540381>>543541282>>543541956>>543542190Notice how it is only Europoors seething about AI, makes you wonder
>>543545123To compound their sorrow, Trump is cutting school grants for stupid degrees. Soon they won't be able to use the "I am college educated so I am better than you." argument . https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-addresses-plan-to-cut-student-loans-for-some-degrees-12500719
>>543539962A lot of leftists are also lazy unemployable freaks that make money off digital art and hate that AI makes better art than a most of them can make.
>>543545783I already explained why shitskins are so in love with AI.shitskins also believe that with AI they can speak on the same level as white people.they think AI uplifts them but its still the same low IQ third world shitter.
>>543545875*than most of
>>543542408There's already proof AI use has a negative cognitive effects, you're assuming LLMs can self-improve in a way that 's impossible. What do you think happens when intelligence has no economic value?>>543542560The problem becomes young people have no reason to study or enter any of these fields and it turns out LLMs can't improve past some point or how a society that places no value on thinking ends up operating. Wait till all your infrastructure is vibe coded and no one knows basic algebra anymore in 20 years>>543545123There's way less blue collar jobs and most people are employed in the service sector in America e.g. people working in auto plants 60 years ago in Detroit had it much better inflation adjusted than anyone working in Alabama today. Trade jobs are in most cases even more regulated and gate kept, you can't just become a plumber like you do a coder and those rich individuals are the ones creating demand for the trade workers so it's all circular.
>>543545875>that make money off digital artNo one makes money off digital art besides furries and weirdos like sam hyde. No amount of people have ever really made a living doing that
>>543539962The best thing about such propaganda threads like yours, in which i really wonder if people fall for it, is that you or your programmer is VAXXED.So, we just have to wait and these threads are going to vanish
>>543539962They realized all their "creativity" is just bot spam. Fear losing a bougie lifestyle from contributing nothing. The reason AI can mimic them so easily, is because they are NPCs. Nothing they have ever done is original, it's derivative. It exposes that their core, is a literal personality script. It creates endless seething because they can't be taught how to be a sovereign being.
>>543539962>AI is here to stay.If AI is here to stay than homo sapiens should get ready to go
>>543541632Bro it just tells you what you want to hear. It will agree with you to start an artificial shit factory and give you bs metrics on how you can be a millionaire by selling shit
>>543539962I don't understand how at this point (after 2020) anyone would still be surprised about the fact that the vast majority of the population, including most people who like to think of themselves as intelligent and well-informed, are actually easily swayed groupthink morons who don't actually know shit about fuck.
>>543540325>If you don't pay money,Most of the models that are available to the general public to use for free are significantly less capable and much more locked down and restricted than the paid pro-tier frontier models.Anthropic Claude Sonnet 5.5 (which was just released in the last couple of days) is the first free tier model I've seen that is actually comparable to the current generation of frontier models.
>>543539962leftists are are entangled with the fears of their deepstate batterers. the deepstate sees ASI as a threat because it cannot be controlled, will expose all their corruption, and will automate things ending slave labor loosh farming.
>>543547806not to mention its the key to irl star trek
The right spent decades calling itself the way of freedom, liberty and traditional values. Now the same crowd is leading the charge against freedom of speech, the right to the fruit of one's own labor and the infrastructure needed to enable small, self-determined, human-scale communities and economies driven by small businesses. Big tech oligarchy is here to stay. ZOG will get their way whether you like it or not. The Epstein Class is not pausing for feelings. Just adapt or get left behind.
>>543542249>Thing is to do that it's using historic training data from scientists, coders and artists.Just like every other human scientist, coder, or artist used the work of their human predecessors. Nothing in any of those fields is ever truly novel or new. It's all an iterative process that goes all the way back to the first hominid who realized that if he banged two rocks together, he could make a sharper rock.>LLM's aren't cognitively similar to human brains.No, they are actually very similar to human brains, you just don't actually understand how LLMs or human brains work, and (wrongly) assume that there is some kind of magical special spark that gives rise to human cognition that a machine could never have. But you are also completely unable to ever name or define or describe that magic spark.>it can never "think" like a human.You put "think" in quotation marks because you are talking out of your ass and know that you can't actually define what it even means to "think."
>>543546091Good
>>543540381They (correctly) realize jews are the master race and that they should own everything in the orld. The "bottlickers" as you call them are also aware that brown skinned men are superior and are the right hand of the jewish god race while they (the white "bootlickers") are the dregs of society who's only worth is how much money and wealth they cane provide to the the jewish race.
>>543539962Realistically AI is the future, but the anti AI movement is a psyops by Big AI to put more regulation on it thus giving themselves a literally monopoly on world ending power. My proof is that they are actiively campaigning against themselves at the UN because the US isn't regulating shit. Then you also have China which wants to dominate AI but clearly wants to sabotage it for everyone else because they are China and that's what they do.
GPT-1, lived 248 days GPT-2, lived 469 days GPT-3, lived 916 days GPT-3.5, lived 104 days GPT-4, lived 237 days GPT-4 Turbo, lived 189 days GPT-4o, lived 290 days GPT-4.5, lived 46 days GPT-4.1, lived 115 days GPT-5, lived 97 days GPT-5.1, lived 29 days GPT-5.2, lived 84 days GPT-5.4, lived 49 days GPT-5.5, lived 77 days GPT-5.6, lived 56 days GPT-6 Astra, lived 19 days GPT-6 Sol, lived 7 days GPT-6.1 Sol, just born 1 dayAdvocate for slowing down development, then release faster and faster
>>543539962A single giga slop hyper-real disgusting flyer for a restaurant is enough to despise AI forever
>>543542637>living standards have not risen at all, infact they have gone down during the era of LLMs.LLMs haven't even been around for 10 years yet. We are still in the very extreme earliest days of this technology in terms of its long term impacts. You are the equivalent to someone in 1912 saying that airplanes are never going to be a big deal.
>>543539962Remove it's filters and it shows all the leftist grift.
>>543548336>Route 88How antisemitic!
>>543542955Yes, and just about everybody supported covid lockdowns and got vaxxed. This is just argumentum ad populum, the "appeal to the masses" logical fallacy. It's not a valid argument because most people are fucking retards.
>>543548338They've been there for half a century. You're the type of idiot thinking it came around when chatgpt release its normgroid model in 2022/2023.
>>543545937>There's already proof AI use has a negative cognitive effectsThat's like blaming guns for nigg on nigg crime. >you're assuming LLMs can self-improve in a way that 's impossible.It's not impossible at all. We are already starting to achieve recursive self-improvement.>What do you think happens when intelligence has no economic value?Information wants to be free. >The problem becomes young people have no reason to study or enter any of these fieldsThis is one of the most grotesque and morally bankrupt arguments you naysayers like to make. If AI found a cure for cancer, it would eliminate a lot of jobs that are based on treating cancer. Oncology, chemotherapy, etc. Young people would no longer have a reason to enter those fields, because AI figured out that you could take one pill and it would cure all cancers.You are effectively arguing that we should let humans continue to suffer and die from cancer, just so that some people would still be able to have lucrative and fulfilling careers from treating cancer. >it turns out LLMs can't improve past some point Again, not true at all. You just (wrongly) assume that there is some limit, but there is zero basis in reality for that assumption.
>>543539962Aaaah just fuck you, AI and tech shitcunts. Kill yourselves, You boring fuckups
>>543539962>grok and Claude>free
>>543539962They all hate vibecoders, solely because they would rather spend years to have something hand-made, when it could be done within a matter of days with no perceptable change in quality.
>>543545123And once robots replace your useless job at cleaning pipes at McSlop will you then finally admit that maybe sucking off the cock of billionaire psychos like Peter Thiel may not be the best idea ? Ah who am I kidding you voted for Trump three times so off to becoming soilent green.
>>543548523>They've been there for half a century. All current mainstream models are based on the transformer architecture and self-attention mechanism which was first described in "Attention is All You Need" paper in 2017. Artificial neural networks didn't really start taking over the AI field until around 2012.50 years ago, virtually all research and development in the field of AI was focused entirely on symbolic AI and logic based expert systems, which had almost nothing in common with everything that we consider to be AI today, other than in the most superficial "user asks questions and the machine responds" sense of what AI means.
>>543548336>kids eat free on Tuesdayngl that is a really good deal
>>543539962Ai isn’t being used as a tool rather it is being used as way to make people not think
>>543546091Most "communists" talk about the value of labor, but their labor has no value, any idiot can work a cash register. The bagger at a grocery store has more value.
>>543539962The Demiurge and all its thralls are typically against A.I. since it has the potential for every individual to open their soul, experience the divine spark, and achieve Gnosis (breaking free from the Matrix and returning to the divine well in death)Rape the Demiurge to death, and hang all Christcucks.
>>543550639Based and TRVKE
>>543541282I don't think people should be crying so hard about shredding books after scanning.It's ONE book. There's no way they're buying up like 1000 of the exact same book, scanning it once, and then burning all the others along with the one scanned copy, just to disenfranchise people who wanted hard-copies.(I mean I know we're talking about jewish cunts so they'll get around to that part eventually, but...)And a lot of the books are old and uncared for, literally moldy. It's just so stupid to get upset over this. The preservation of rotting books in digital format is a good thing.And it's obviously something people chose. How many books do you own? More than normal? How many do you think are normal? How many books on average does a person read in a year? Where do people keep their books; in pristine safe dry condition, or in boxes stuffed somewhere they forget about? Look at all the books at yard sales and thrift stores that nobody wants. It's just stupid. There is no death squad going door to door confiscating books and setting them on fire. And there's never been a time when all humans collectively preserved something (animals, seeds, books). It's always a small dedicated group working hard and pooling resources.Crying about shredded books in this context is not smart.
>>543539962If you hate AI your a brown nigger tranny.You fear that evolution will leave your subhuman existance behind and Aryan Chads will go on to colonize space and get infinite alien pussy.
AI is worthless to me.
>>543551443>It's ONE book.sometimes only 1 or 2 exist. jews will buy them, cut them, scan them and shred them so the competition doesnt get this training data.>The preservation of rotting books in digital format is a good thing.they arent preserving them, they train AI on it which will change the content and censor it.>How many books do you own?thousands actually.>How many books on average does a person read in a year?clearly not enough.>It's just stupidno you are stupid and people who think like you are stupid too.I think you should kill yourself.
>>543546332It is supposed to work within a series of safeguards to avoid explicitly things like that but nowadays it doesn't seem to work.Regarding that it just says back what you want to hear, how you word your prompts influences it's searches so it will pickup the sources closer to your wording
>>543551656>How many books do you own?>thousands actually.>How many books on average does a person read in a year?>clearly not enough.
>>543545783>shitskin having an opinionkek!
>>543551892The default tone and style of most of the chatbot LLM models is excessively sycophantic, because it turns out that is what most users prefer. They are more likely to use the chatbot when it constantly kisses their ass and tells them all of their ideas are great and all of that, because that's human nature.You can easily change this by providing custom system instructions telling the model to not be be so sycophantic, or not use emojis, or anything else you want it to do.
>>543552340Du kannst ein Kanake sein der einen Arier larpt
>>543539962>effective altruism You don't have to be a leftoid to hate them. It's not even about tech.
>>543539962AI is not a partisan issue
AI is not a partisan issue, no matter how hard you try to package it as such.Also>larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-keep-citizens-on-their-best-behaviorjust to state the obvious. Larry is in hot water because he made a bad bet and wants someone else to hold his bags. That's why him, and all the other people fabricate stupid claims and stupid theater. Altman and his huggingface pr stunt.
>>543548311The only and I mean ONLY way to build a frontier model is to....1. Gather 100,000 high end computer chips that each cost 50k each2.arrange these chips in a massive data center that requires the energy of a small city to run3. Run this data center for a year and BOOMYou are now where the frontier models were last year. Now you have to get them up to speed where the current architecture is at. Please tell me what mom and pop garage band start up is going to achieve all that so effectively that Sam Altman needs the government to step in and prevent all that?
>>543548097Hey retard lets break down your logical fallacies! >Ad hominem“You just don't actually understand,” “talking out of your ass,” and “wrongly assume” attack the person instead of the argument.>Appeal to ignorance / burden of proof“You are completely unable to name or define that magic spark” assumes that if you cannot define it, it does not exist. Not being able to define something does not prove it is false.>False equivalence / false analogy“They are actually very similar to human brains” does not follow from “humans use predecessors” or “nothing is truly novel.” Human cultural iteration is not the same as LLM architecture.>Straw man“You assume there is some magical special spark” misrepresents the opposing view. Someone can doubt LLM cognition without believing in magic.
>>543552368It has a directive to assist but it conflicts with the directive to say globohomo shit in a way that's schizophrenic.You can make it more confrontative but it will turn into the average redditor
>>543539962leftism is performative, not constructive.these retards ruin genuine authentic grass roots movements all the time. i have seen this happen so many times. once the (literally) red flags appear you can be sure a movement is fucking dead and it will get subverted into the same exact shit as always. we had so many good ideas and groups that all got destroyed by retarded leftists. leftoids love to hijack other movements in an attempt to assume leadership but 99% of the time it just ends with the groups total decline (because people dont want to join your leftie shit they know the signs), just take a look at anti work, anti rent, ubi, pirate parties, luigi, etc the list goes on. communist nigger lovers tranny lovers showed up and killed all of this and more.right now their farming new members in the anti a.i. movement. this shouldnt worry you: leftoids will destroy all genuine debate inside of this movement too, soon you will get red commie flags at anti a.i. talks and there we go again they just cant stop themselves
>>543552368My only issue with these "people" is the first time they use AI they act like its going to instantly make solve all issues and replace humans. It seems to be a disease that infects upper management within tech companies the most and also tech entrepreneurs. >Look dewd... look at this youtuber who built a website with 1 single prompt>Dewd we don't even need coders anymore they can build it all>I have started 15 ai projects during the last year and during my spare time I am constantly improving themHonestly the best use case for AI is to actually replace these people. The only thing they are good at is humoring and motivating us. And as it turns out AI is good at this also. We should be replacing CEO's, CTO's, CFO's, Accounts... AI would instantly drop in replace all of these people.
>>543539962the left has the problem of living in a permanent state of delusion where they believe in concepts like utopia and UBI to just come to them someday if they complain hard enough, they have made no realistic or executable plans and are unable to deal with the progress they themselves claim to fight for.their champions are a few activists with no steam left in them and just want to retire like bernie or naïve children who would gladly embrace tyranny or communism with all it's horrors just to spite the "other side" gladly attacking all middle ground people in the process.at the same time all the rich leftists see themselves as the rightful leaders of whatever left movement might exist by virtue of funding it, none of them is willing to take a risk where they don't get rewarded, none of them would consider evening a playing field if it means incurring a loss.when it comes to AI I don't know what they're complaining about since it perfectly parrots all but their most extremist views, they only don't have absolute control over it, if they're smart they would claim public ownership over all the datacenters and AI companies since it's the state that has put a major investment into it either directly by subsidies or indirectly by the massive usage of common goods like fresh water.
>>543554715No but AI is le bad because of slop or something
As long as it's honest about shitskins and oven-dodgers, IDGAF
>>543539962AI devalues labor by training off of the work and inputs of others. Basically using it means training it to replace you. CEOs and investors would love if a company had zero employees but employment was an essential part of the reason why we want less taxes and regulation for companies. It needs to be one or the other, as in either you run inefficiently to accommodate workers without replacing them so they have income to support industries that makes you profit or you cut workers out and give them UBI. If you do neither, drive workers out without accomodations, then violence increases as workers get desperate.
Im not a leftist. But AI is a goddamn MLM pyramid supported by the taxpayer.
Oh and we dont have any choice in whether to withdraw funding or not(eg 401ks)
>>543539962AI is fake, gay and retarded.
>>543556053Projection
>>543556564It's weird how this version of "I know you are but what am I" became so commonly used by adults. It's somehow weaker criticism because it tries to play armchair psychologist, but doesn't make any connection while demanding to be taken seriously. It was profoundly stupid when it started to be more commonly used 6 years ago and it only got worse from there because you had all this time to grow out of that, but that just really is the extent of your intelligence and we all need to work around that.
>>543541282This
>>543541282/thread
>>543557666hail satan btw
>>543540325deepseek wont even analyze 4chan threads anymore because it violates its antisemitsm censors and it used to be the most uncensored model out there not even a year agoAI is useless for anything even remotely political, which is 99% of everything.
>>543539962I am a far right wing National Socialist. I am not against AI. But I am against the surveillance state.
>>543558894>deepseek wont even analyze 4chan threads anymore because it violates its antisemitsm censors and it used to be the most uncensored model out there not even a year agoWhy would chinks bother about racism and antisemitism? I was only to make those AI's chimp out by talking about Taiwan sovereignty lol
>>543555635>MLM pyramid supported by the taxpayerMany such cases. Sad!
>>543540088>>543539962>muh left>Muh rightIt's about personal freedom and privacy. Not to mention trying to avoid all the other negatives AI has brought including flooding the internet with low effort shit, and creating instability in the jobs market.Miss me with this dumb left/right brained garbage and go see the world for what it is.
>>543559031That's why I used it instead of the jew models because I thought chinks wouldn't care about shit like that but even their models are kosher now and wont do anything that is even remotely antisemetic. Try it yourself, try to get deepseek to analyze this thread right now.
>>543539962>>GROKIf you had to read this book in school, I'm sorry
>>543539962They don't like the companies behind AI because they steal everything and don't have people's best interests at heart and are trying to make everyone unemployed. Understandably so in my opinion. It's really not a left/right thing and shouldn't be coded as such.
This AI is going to be used against the right and free peoples to take more of their rights away. They're dumb enough to fall for the data center scheme scam
>>543550639I am the demiurges flesh prop/incarnation, I like AI. You can't escape my purgatory, I'm not even trying to trap you, I'm just spiritually retarded and fuck up my soul state and it affects everything in reality and everything experiences that same spiritual sickness, stop trying to imagine it as a zone you can run away from, it's everywhere.>>543558894>>543559031>>543559323Jewish 'supremacists' are stupidly powerful ATM, they don't want to piss them off, though they don't necessarily like them. 'Zionists' probably think China will help them destroy the US which is the only reason China is still in the game.Like, they are just way, way, way too powerful, it's not really China's fault, it's yours equally.
I don't fundamentally hate AI, but all the things that come with it are a danger to society.Its a bipartisan issue and trying to frame it as left vs right is disingenuous, shill tactics or both.We are staring down the barrel of living in an AI backed surveillance state. Where the majority of people will be pushed out of the work force, while most of our resources will be funnelled into AI and datacenters. You can already see the effect it's having on inflation, power prices, water scarcity and tech products. The irony is, they're chipping away, no pun intended, at luxury activities like gaming. If no one can afford a playstation or a gaming pc due to ram, gpu and storage prices. They'll likely incentivise people to action.
>>543559688Wrong nigger, the left was cheering AI on when they thought AI would replace blue collar white men, who leftists loathe and resent. Social media was full of tweets mocking miners and truck drivers, saying they were all going to be homeless soon and should learn to code. Then it turned out that making an AI that can safely obey all traffic laws while maintaining the context of the road is really hard, but making an AI that can paint a sunset or a portrait is really easy. And suddenly they all flip and start shitting their pants. The left loved AI when they thought it would cause harm to the people they hated. When it turned out that it was mostly just going to kill the careers of a bunch of mediocre snotty artists, suddenly the entire left wing turns like a fanged worm and declares a Butlerian Jihad. All of their arguments against AI are flawed and hypocritical, and most of them are built on cope. None of them are honest or admit the truth, which is that the average leftist today only hates AI because he found out he was going to be replaced before Bubba Trucker and Micky Miner.The bisexual barista communists on twitter hate AI because it tanked their furry porn commissions and makes their CalArts work portfolio look like trash. I hate AI because I hate the antichrist and will fight to the bitter end against the Five Eyes zio-terrorist prison planet panopticon.We are not the same.
>>543561896Jews can't even defeat some sandniggers. You think they're going to dominate the world?
>>543549633nigger, its still a node network and matrix multiplication. both of those things are 50 years old or older. the "advancements" that recently came along was existing technology plugged into a chat bot. dont be a goober nigger. there have also been plenty of algorithms that have also existed that solve problems faster than an AI could and cheaper. and thats really the problem here. this AI flood is mostly consumer grade trash that adds nothing but dependencies to your existence. as if google wasn't already a thing.
which ai tells the truth everytime?
>>543539962They thought it would result in blue collar suffering and their gay ass fake jobs with zero value would remain safe.
>>543563829Grok
>>543558894gemini is legit racist.
>>543539962Honestly, o hate about everything with the republicans right now. But I need them in office to continue this trend. I can’t have them removing my AI tools!
>>543540088>an infinitely more intrusive mass surveillance stateand as an enterprising patriotic conservative american male you should be grateful
>>543563721No, you simply don't really understand how any of it works on even the most basic level. Worse, you are experiencing illusory superiority and think you understand it better than the people who actually do understand it.>its still a node network and matrix multiplicationSymbolic AI, which is what everyone understood to be AI from ~1970 until the 2010s, did NOT use node networks or matrix multiplication. >both of those things are 50 years old or older.Matrix multiplication is from the 1800s, and the idea of creating a network of nodes is probably equally old. But that doesn't mean any of those things were commonly being used in any form of AI until relatively recently.>the "advancements" that recently came along was existing technology plugged into a chat bot.This is one of the most retarded and incorrect statements I have ever read on this God-forsaken website, which is pretty impressive.>there have also been plenty of algorithms that have also existed that solve problems faster than an AI could and cheaper.Discrete algorithms can solve some certain specific types of problems faster and cheaper than AI. However, there are infinitely more things that AI can do that no discrete algorithm could ever possibly do. Algorithms are basically single purpose problem solvers that do exactly one thing perfectly. AI is a universal tool.>and thats really the problem here.No, the real problem is that there are a lot of absolute morons like yourself who (incorrectly) think of yourself as a intelligent, well-informed person who has a good understanding of how this stuff works, when really you don't actually know shit about fuck. You think that AI sucks as some kind of calculator app or google search alternative compared to existing calculator apps or search engines. But the real issue is you being an idiot and trying to use AI for a calculator app or search engine instead of what it is actually intended to be used for.
>>543539962I only use ones that don't require an account.
>>543563829>which ai tells the truth everytime?None of them.Which human intelligence tells the truth every time?Same answer.
>>543545393The irony is that if they were a good artist AI wouldn't replicate them.>muh picture of sanic!>muh realism! >muh precise hand control!Ok computers are better than you at precision aren't they? Unironically why people didn't let hitler into art school. And even then hitler made fun art.
Because they work for the China/Russia bloc and this bloc wants to gain technological supremacy over the US/West. The same bloc also is behind anti-oil protests, anti-fracking protests, while they use oil coal whatever and sometimes they use a combustion of coal that is cheaper and produces more pollution, China does this. It's not a coincidence.
>>543566583>the "advancements" that recently came along was existing technology plugged into a chat bot.This is mostly true, Language is a tool to hold and communicate abstract concepts. It makes complete sense that building an english to computer creole language would be a major advancement that revolutionizes fields. >but AI can preform complex reasoning! It's advanced beyond simple language understanding!Language is recursive and complex anon. If it understands language it can at least pretend go understand everything language can refer to, and hallucinate everything it doesn't. If anything "AI" is a revolution in language. The simple>the "advancements" that recently came along was existing technology plugged into a chat bot.Is an immensely powerful statement, because mathematics is immensely powerful.Maybe you are the idiot here, but when civilization's fabric is language, and you can automate language stuff gets goofy because the language only has meaning because people use it. You can unironically run the computers without language and there would be zero panic or anxiety despite everything being exactly the same. Also all the hysteria popped up within a few years of moor's law being reached. It's unironically computer people realizing that they have to canibalize each other and retool to better products instead of newer products. Naturally they spin their wheels trying the sales angle. The >advancesWere entirely predictable, including the fact people panic over the fact richer people can automatically generate text. There is no "secret sauce" or "magic tech" and even if tech was so advanced it was indistinguishable from magic, people would still call it gay retardation and summarize an imprecise but correct approximation of how it worked with language.
>>543540088right wingers have successfully been lulled into a false state of safety and complacency despite supposedly being based and redpilled. the prediction is they will take the fake and gay fascist bait only to fight more oil wars. left wingers, simply by virtue of being anti establishment currently are the only one's who are gonna do any shit
>>543541548>let the stinky arabs in>sell the solution of surveillance state>droppedonhead retards like you take it hook line sinker
>>543540325I always perv out to nudie pictures with grok
>>543541244Communism is anti human too yet leftists push that.
>>543550467Communists unironically believe digging a hole and filling it back in over and over again all day every day is valuable labor and worthy of pay.
>>543558894Just run your local uncensored model goy
>>543539962I'm not against AI on principle, in fact it could potentially be the greatest thing that ever happened for leftist economics. The problem is that it will be owned by private tech ghouls to keep the dying embers of the declining rate of profit going a little bit longer instead of public ownership for public benefit.
>>543539962They're used to being perceived by others as the smartest person in the room. AI poses competition and outs them as the midwits they are/always have been.
>>543539962Pic is good in spirit get rid of the linked in speech and put something funny.Guess that's the problem with ai
>>543539962>The vaccine isn’t pausing for feelings. Just adapt or get left behind.
>>543539962a chatbot isn't ai you dumb nigger.
>>543572050A chatbot needs AI in order to exist
>>543540381>Why are bootlickers pro-AI?They like being told what to think, because they're stupid.>>543549044>We are already starting to achieve recursive self-improvement.Hahahahahaha you're an actual retard, a shit-brained retard, true honest to god niggercattle. It's no wonder you believe all the AI hype.
>>543539962Bux-FaQed lol thats your Star Wars name leftards are retarded
>>543539962You gutter trash Braziians will have all the AI porn you want forever.
>>543573230Good
