Are LSD and psilocybin really banned because the psychedelic experience can shift people away from conventional, status-quo politics?Has any anon's experience with LSD/Shrooms changed their political viewpoint longterm.Anyone try microdosing?
You'd want to trust your shrink an awful lot to let them dose you with drugs that make you suggestible before they start tossing your noodles.
Surely the whole “psychedelics will make the world a better place” idea takes a pretty serious hit when the likes of Musk and Thiel are out there championing them.
>>543542443I'm not sure most people who take psychedelics do so under direction from a therapist.
>>543542316>Are LSD and psilocybin really banned because the psychedelic experience can shift people away from conventional, status-quo politics?Probably. Apparently one experience can change you for life in a good way. You might be like, I give no fucks, after. I haven't done anything but weed, alcohol, sugar, caffeine.
>>543542504The reason they're prohibited is because the CIA realised very early on in MKUltra and Artichoke how valuable they are for headfuckery. If they ever are mainstreamed it'll be to serve the interests of power, and shrinks will be the vehicle.
LSD lasts too long and you’re just tired of it after a point, I wouldn’t recommend it except as an all day party drug to take before noonShrooms are overrated and not life changing if you’ve already used weed to explore your mind
>>543542601So they won't be selling shrooms in weed shops or anything like that? >or in milk barsIt'll be strictly state regulated. What do they think would happen if their use became ubiquitous?
>>543542829their use already is somewhat ubiquitous in my opinion, especially among high level professional white collar workers
>>543542316LSD basically makes you see things without any inherent value, and being able to temporarily make "logical" decisions without that consideration can be enlightening, but I don't know if anyone who is changed in any significant way by this. Although I did know a guy who went nuts and killed himself after tripping. It's mostly just young people exaggerating because it's fun to do and you laugh your ass off.
>>543542553behold, a magic trickone post, and he disappears (inb4 he suddenly decides to contrarian cause I called it)This is NOT Lambright.This is an attention whoring, grifting faggot with donation links all over his jewtube, whomst is currently preparing to launch this "$120 a month subscription to edit" wiki site, who can not post a thread ID timestamped selfie proving he's Lambright, at first heavily bullshitting and evading it: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/542865432/then moving from that to outright ignoring any mention of it and hiding:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/542929980/almost every reply to him is 1pbtid and in the first thread you can see him samefag to offer himself money, so (((Lambright))) could say "n-no I don't need it thanks" while dropping the youtube link with the donation links-do not give him money-do not give him viewsthis has been a public service announcement
Acid lasts 8 hoursShrooms last 2 hoursYou are welcome. Where is my state funding?
>>543542316these kind of drugs can have big impact on your psyche and the way you think even after using them only once because it forcefully disturbs the chemical balance in your brain and it might never go back to normal levels again. So is not like your perspective is elevated or anything, you just become an even bigger retard, more unproductive and lazier.
>>543542316What politics dude it's all fake and gay mind control. Why you need mushrooms to realize this?
>>543542316psychedelics help you see what you do wrong in life. they can help you stop being an ego driven animal. it takes constant effort to not be an animal. ego is satanism remember that
>>543542316I did a ton and i was everything political spectrum offers now i just troll everyone. You become a joker.
>>543542871I always thought stimulants were their drug of choice; caffeine, nicotine, amphetamine, cocaine. I know they were trying to push microdosing psychedelics in silicon vallley a few years back but didn't think it caught on.
>>543542316https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-l-CPC6QY I'll Never Go Back - Shaman Testimony
>>543542316Yes, also micro dosing is a tech CEO bro nonsense and a waste of money and perfectly good drugs
>>543542316yes, microdosing is greatno hangoverno lasting effectsjust pure joy (or fear, depends if you're a shizo to begin with)Afterwards slightly tired because it basically also works like chugging 10 white monsterhttps://lsd-legal.de/
you need to do it with Solomon's Seal to block the demons from invading your personal limbo where you will get spiritual experience and if proper done level up.However doing this righ requires Archane knowledge, that knowledge is in possesion of the ruler class in the shadows, they practice it.However if you search in the right places (wink wink) it is still possible to acquire the learning needed for building protection runes and spells
>>543543077it can depend on the particular industry but stimulants just aren’t sustainable if you need them to work. psychedelics by contrast you can just do on weekends and if you come up with good stuff for your job that’s a bonus>>543543174micro dosing makes for good sex, if you do just enough shrooms to barely feel it, mix it with an edible, then you can have god tier pornographic sex, assuming you’re physically fit
>>543542316its complicated. Its a double edge sword, glowies were actually invovled in the dispersal of LSD and the whole counter culture of the 60s. Jan Irvin wrote a fascinating series of articles explaining the CIA and intelligence agencies in the the grateful dead movement and hippy culture. Search "Manufacturing a Dead head" by Jan Irvin
>>543543276>https://lsd-legal.de/nice, does it have psylocibin?
>>543542935thanks for educating anons on that fucking grifter.
>>543542316LSD can definitely change your viewpoint of the world and even fuck you up if you take it often. Mushrooms are sort of a temporary behavioral change.
>>543542316>can shift people away from conventional, status-quo politics?Drugs don't do that, having a higher than average IQ does. When midwits and retards take psychedelics they just become even more fucked up
>>543543376it's my pleasure
>>543542601>Artichokecan regenerate your lungs, liver and probably some other inner organs and the main catch is in dosing, everything depends on your weight.
>>543543332>Manufacturing a Dead head" by Jan Irvin"How Darwin, Huxley, and the Esalen Institute launched the 2012 and psychedelic revolutions"Hmmmmm I thought the Esalen institutute would have had some involvement in these things. Interesting rabbit hole to go down. The Esalan Institute, Erhard Seminars Training, Inc, Abraham Maslow self a actualization and the hierarchy of needs
>>543542316If you're a low t conformist faggot, you'll still be a low t conformist faggot after you trip. Nigger lovers stay nigger lovers on both sides.
>>543542884>who went nuts and killed himself after trippingthat's because LSD is literally produced in chem labs which means there are a lot of negative chemicals that can damage your heart and your brain. >>543542316 if you are really considering to use some hallucinogenics, than focus yourself on something natural. i'd recommend ayahuasca only once or maybe twice in a one year. be careful for what you wish hehehe.
>>543543451I know a lot of low IQ retards who aren't into status quo politics. Marxists-leninists , anarchists, neo-nazis. They weren't bright people
>>543543332>"Manufacturing a Dead head" by Jan Irvin_https://logosmedia.com/2013/05/manufacturing-the-deadhead-a-product-of-social-engineering-by-joe-atwill-and-jan-irvin/_Articles in this series:1) R. Gordon Wasson: The Man, the Legend, the Myth. Beginning a New History of Magic Mushrooms, Ethnomycology,and the Psychedelic Revolution. By Jan Irvin, May 13, 20122) How Darwin, Huxley, and the Esalen Institute launched the 2012 and psychedelic revolutions – and began one of the largest mind control operations in history. Some brief notes. By Jan Irvin, August 28, 20123) Manufacturing the Deadhead: A Product of Social Engineering, by Joe Atwill and Jan Irvin, May 13, 20134) Entheogens: What’s in a Name? The Untold History of Psychedelic Spirituality, Social Control, and the CIA, by Jan Irvin, November 11, 20145) Spies in Academic Clothing: The Untold History of MKULTRA and the Counterculture – And How the Intelligence Community Misleads the 99%, by Jan Irvin, May 13, 2015__i share this a few times a year, not sure if anyone ever reads it but its a major red pill. I thinks its pretty obvious there is multiple factions vying for control of the world, but one faction most likely linked to the technocrat west coast faction have had their fingers in the hippy scene to some extent. Im not even objectively claiming its bad or good, but there seems to be some truth to it. I have always been interested in the 60s counter culture and its off shoots, but i hate how large parts of the movement were taken over by anti-whites which i think is bad.
>>543542316>Anyone try microdosing?Never tried microdosing, in general I consume around 800 microns of LSD per session.Frankly, it haven't changed much because I was already pretty aloof (almost died several times in my life so whatever).
>>543543604>Hmmmmm I thought the Esalen institutute would have had some involvement in these thingsThe esalen institute is 100% involved anon. you are right thats its own rabbit hole altogether, i cant link a ton of sources right now but esalen was even bringing communist party leadership from russia into the US for events during the cold war.
>>543542829There's already shroom vapes and edibles. Dispensaries near me carry them lol>t. TN resident
>>543542316>Has any anon's experience with LSD/Shrooms changed their political viewpoint longterm.For 20 years I have been taking psychedelics from lsd, shrooms, dmt and a variety of mdma and xtc tabs. I had a complete 180 on the way k view the world and myself. Mostly the relationship between other people and i. I know my worth, I know what im capable of and have complete control over my mind and heart. My soul aches as I find myself alone and without a better half to guide me.But that's life.
>>543543485Liver you say? Tell me more
>>5435426845 grams or more. I did 1-3 grams for years, basic trip. At 5 grams the universe takes your ego from you and spits you to the corners of time and the edge of the universe.“Nothing happened, wait holy shit make it stop, ahhhh!!!”It absolutely changed me for months, couldn’t relax, couldn’t find a center. It gave me a new one. Freedom at the cost of your previous self.12 hours face down on the wildest roller coaster imaginable.Haven’t needed it since. You die, accept it, and realize you didn’t die. It’s unlike anything else I’ve done.
>>543542935This is the same lolcow retard that was building some stupid shed in the desert and getting laughed at on /diy/ for all his stupid ideas right?
>>543543848you could, if you really want to, buy that at your local phytopharmacy (pharmacies that are specialized in natural medications gathered from natural ingredients). the rest of it you can google yourself, or maybe you should use yandex, it depends on the results.
>>543543763>>543543693>>543543604So I just remembered, that was a researcher (cant remember his name) who made a few videos exposing Joe Rogan and his circle, he had a ton of videos on youtube/rumble and then he was mysteriously found dead in his car by gunshot and ruled suicide but it was extremely suspicious circumstances it was a young kid too in his 20s. He exposed Joe Rogans connection to Esalen institute and aubrey marcus and many of the psychedelic movement that is centered around esalen, he was also the guy who found out about esalen having connections with communist party leadership during the cold war and bringing them in and planning for a future communist world government.
>>543542316It's only banned in Louisiana. You can order mushys straight to your door in the other 49 states.https://www.amentara.com/product/amanita-muscaria-fly-agaric-caps-15g-usa/
I did LSD once, the only thing I "saw" was the ball in Rocket League became a star of David for a second. No one else saw it. Still hate jews anyway
>>543544279i think i found that exact video on bitchutte....https://www.bitchute.com/video/NpPmYOCBEXIn/>MATTHEW WAS FOUND MURDERED IN HIS CAR WITH A SINGLE BULLET WOUND TO THE TEMPLE NOT LONG AFTER UPLOADING THIS VIDEO! >Matthew had a hit put out him shortly after this content was released into the public domain, and I'm Led to believe that it was ROGAN himself or one of his handlers that hired a HITMAN to carry out this sickening murder! >The autopsy report was found by a researcher on bitchute, and North’s YouTube channel has been stripped of its original content!>May Matthew RIP his work and life has not been in vain he single handedly put hundreds of thousands of people back on the right track exposing the people he created content on with amazing work!
>>543543763They certainly organized and funded a visit for Yeltsin to America.
>>543543332>>543543604>>543543763>>543544279>>543543763Esalen mentioned in an Adam Curtis doc I watched. From 15.00 to 35.00. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2LB2MaGoM&pp
>>543545570>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ub2LB2MaGoM&ppnice find, i need to go back and watch this again i saw it like 10 years ago...its all about edward bernays too right? >>543544858>https://www.bitchute.com/video/NpPmYOCBEXIn/yes this was the guy. seemed like a bright kid he was and would have been a great researcher
>>543545776>edward bernays too rightYep. He massively Influenced contemporary propaganda, public relations and advertising utilizing some of his uncles ideas. His uncle was Sigmund Freud
>>543545914>His uncle was Sigmund Freudand his grandson is an executive at netflix too! i never knew much about psyops or esalen back when I saw this many years ago so im excited to watch it again now knowing everything ive learned over the past 10 years since i last saw it.
>>543542316From all my years enjoying both LSD and psilocybin I can say that neither of them have changed my political stance
>>543542316It may also make some assumptions feel less fixated without supplying a predetermined replacement ideology. What fills that space can depend enormously on your existing worldview and environment. You may also come out more conformist than less.
>>543542684I love lsd I am a fucking maniac. I don't recommend taking it by itself. Lsd to me is like adding salt and pepper to a dish. Two hits and a bottle of whiskey and I am receiving messages from planet zorgon
>>543542316Yes.
>>543544576Amanita is not mushrooms. Mushrooms are psilocybin species. Amanita is some other shit that sucks and contains toxins
>>543542316https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VONAwy_6j6kPsychedelic's are a false summit.
>>543542316I have. I was a normie leftist.I had a lot of mushrooms on accident. The ones out west here are different from the ones in the Midwest. I could do a quarter ounce in the Midwest and have a chill trip. The same amount of whatever these West Coast shrooms are, it turns out, is significantly more potent.I will spare the details of the trip. But when I came back, I suddenly just couldn't accept any more lies or bullshit. Not from myself or anyone else. But most importantly myself.Blacks misbehave, period. Gays are mentally damaged child abuse victims who perpetuate the abuse. Women are not mature adults. Racial homogeneity is the key to a happy society.These were things I must have known subconsciously, but wouldn't allow myself to contemplate. Suddenly I just allowed myself to accept the truth.I can re call a weird moment before doing mushrooms when I looked across the street at the section 8 housing and saw a pregnant niggress with 3 kids, and in my mind I said>Great pop out some more niggers and multiply the problem furtherI recoiled at my own thoughts. I told myself I was just being edgy in my mind. I didn't really think that way, and they were victims of a society not built for them.After overdoing mushrooms, all of those thoughts were no longer suppressed by my id or whatever.I could accept them and process them. And ultimately form a coherent worldview that incorporated that knowledge.
>>543544858Outright schizo shit >Joe rogan personally shot him!Lol
>>543542316modern weed is so strong that i sometimes get audiovisual halucinations. i always wanted to try magic mushrooms but no idea if i would like it. i watched some youtube videos which show how tripping on shrooms looks like and its certainly interesting
>>543547199>they were victims of a society not built for them.This is still true though. If they can't consider consequences, are they really at fault for their actions? Many people do not meet the criteria for truly being "human" and yes of course this flows along genetic lines heavily.
>>543544576Muscaria are not shrooms. Nothing happens of you eat them.
>>543542316>Are LSD and psilocybin really banned because the psychedelic experience can shift people away from conventional, status-quo politics?I don't knowI never really subscribed to conventional thinking on politicsWhen I took psychedelics (I've done LSD once, Psilocybin once, 2C-E once, and 2C-I once) I just had a good time. I enjoyed where the trips took me and was not at all concerned with thinking of politics.I suppose after the experiences it helped enhance my understanding of just how subjective reality is... Applying this to how others think expanded my understanding how just how easily one can believe just about anything whether be by seeing or a simple desire to believe (whether consciously or subconsciously).It's a complicated topic I do not wish to delve into here.>TL;DR It may help individuals see through and understand their thought processes which could in turn alter their beliefs and thus changing their political alignment.
shroom grow kits are 40% off currently on zamnesia by the way. this seems really cheap for the amount you can produce with one batch. certainly compared to weed this is cheap
>>543542316What? Have you even actually taken a psychedelic and experienced the out-of-this-world, "how the fuck is this shit an actual real thing" feeling and got blown away by the raw, sheer power and stupidity of it all? How do you think most of the population would react to that kind of energy? Really think about it for a second.
>>543547223>Outright schizo shit>>Joe rogan personally shot him!you obtuse glowy. It says him or his handlers "hired" the hitman, not that Joe shot matthew himself. But I tend to agree that I doubt Joe Rogan was personally involved
>>543547303>if you cannot consider the consequences are you at fault for your actions?Yes.
For me? Its these bad boys.
>>543542316Hard to say. At the time I thought the experience was profound. But in retrospect it gave me small insights and perception shifts about the nature of things and the strangeness of things. I don’t think it changed my politics, but how can I know?Anyway I used to think psychedelic prohibition was a great evil but now I’m not so sure. I think there’s a segment of the population whose maladjusted thinking would just be reinforced…
>>543543693Very interesting read, thanks anon. I say as I'm currently listening to an old grateful dead show
>>543542316Did shrooms only once and had a very bad time. I felt... different... for about 3 days. Then normalized.
>>543547577Having the right type of space and the right conditions is the issue
>>543542316they made me very calm and patient. before i took LSD i was very neurotic, constipated, insomniac. now i am placid and regular. after i tripped there have been many, many instances where i was rewarded generously for simply being patient. where if i were my impatient former self, i would have been punished. last time i tripped on acid was october of 2022. probably won't ever do it again desu.
>>543542316I used to work in corrections. I was far from the meme that would abuse dudes for no reason, never saw a reason for that. But, if you spit/threw on staff or assaulted one of us I'd definitely be on the team to take you to a camera blindspot and tune you up and not lose sleep over it.I had to quit that job about 6 months after doing a heroic dose on mushrooms. I just couldn't be that guy anymore or be in that type of environment. By no means am I a "poor wittle criminals are abused" I just can't be in that position anymore. I will still shoot someone breaking into my home but the idea of hurting or killing others for someone or an entity isn't something I can live with anymore. I firmly believe a lot of wars would be prevented if the world as a whole had a big psychedelic experience. Obviously that's bad for the war economy so they're banned.
>>543549279>I say as I'm currently listening to an old grateful dead showthat was me kek. not as much now but i LOVED the festival scene, ive seen both grateful dead spin off bands Further and Rhythm Devils, live. I love Grateful dead and a lot about the hippy counter culture but I just hate how a lot of modern hippies cuture went from having fun, chilling, being free ect...to becoming infected with anti-white sjw politics, all the girls were calling themselves witches all of a sudden the scene changed from what it was but part of me will always like grateful dead and the scene behind it even if there was glowies involved in parts.... ..There was an interesting scene in the show "man in the high castle" the show was an alternative history where the axis won ww2 and japan and germany split the USA in half and each controlled their own half of the country. An american character gets brought to germany and they are introducing him to some of the young adults children of the nazi leadership and a girl brings him to this party in a mountain chalet and everyone is taking acid tripping and having fun but they are still loyal national socialists who recognize their parents used LSD for mind control, but they use it as "a mindless adventure"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qOU0PuB0FM
