Owning things is not a job and is incapable of creating value.
>>543542473Is the general public for the most part surviving the inevitable expulsion of its Oligarchal Polyergusformica a kind of value creation even if these events only happen every 150 plus or minus 100 years?What will you do when the grocery store has no food, the gas station has no gas, and the workhouse has no Tophatted Klansmen to cut you a check for 3500 digital bottlecaps?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqR7z2eHOBE&t=150
>>543542473so why do you want the government to own all the land
>>543542794The government shouldn't exist all private property should be communally owned.
>>543542473is CEO job? I want to be CEO some day
>>543542473ITT rentoids seething.
The Landlording topic should be lecture 1 on introduction to Government for students, instead of the usual slop on democracy, voting and becoming an employim. As if throwing a worship of weakness potion to Sublimate to Jews is the goal. The Landlord is the last bastion of western Greco-roman civilization that remains once the occupier's courthouse on state street at $Capitol falls silent. The Police, Military, Courthouse and Clandestine services all got fed head first into wood chippers and now men are in hiding. The Feudal Landlord remains: hiding in a fox hole on his property that he used to own, now armed defending his new berry-picking tribe.I don't give a shit what you think you are, with your new Federal shield sticker on your AGI powered clanker drone emerging from your MRAPs, if you come onto my property you'll have to kill me to get me off. I don't care about your old laws or new laws, from the occupation, look, the Judeochristian scum-sucklers are swinging from lamp posts. Landlords are "He Who Remains" when the scorpion polyergus has run out of Goyim Formica credit to kite. Landlording is the final backup of Western Civilization. The founding fathers gave the white male land owner the obligation to bear arms, crack whips, collect rents, and defend it from the new foot-men emitting Government.The founding fathers didn't pinhole Guns for hunting, they're for repelling the boot lickers from the local combine. When they arrive to take by force the land upon which you stand. The United States of America does not exist on this property. You boot lickers are demoted to lately made up criminal syndicate of evil foreign fighters, you are armed parasites looking for loot drops, which means you are an invader. Your Blackrock's quota on guidance for Global Warming for killing Shabis, is as empty as laws created in Central Africa.
>>543542939>communally ownedso why do you want the government to assign communal ownership of the land to its citizens
>>543542473False. Investing provides the means to bring good ideas into being that would otherwise never be realized.Now, fiat currency, theft-through-money-printing, and state-enforced debt slavery? That's different.
>>543542939Governments are an emergent property of humanity.
>>543542473So what bitch
>>543542473you sound poor
>>543542473No one claimed that it was, but if being housed isnt valuable then what are you even bitching about in the first place? Obviously it creates something pretty valuable to you of we enter into a contract and you get to be housed. You had no shelter. Now you do.If I own it and decide to let you use it for a fee, then that isnt theft. You signing a contract isnt me stealing from you. Grow up, loser.
>>543542939You lost so bad you pathetic twerp, sounding like the worst monopoly player that ever lived
>>543543122The government shouldn't exist>>543543163Cap
A Government gets to collect Taxes from the peasants at the point of a rifle, and not be hauled away to jail for what is grand theft larceny in any other context. Corporations for the most part don't pay tax in the USA, they are entitled recipients of tax. Plebians/peasantry pay taxes in an absolute sense. Currency is faith carved into integers, it is digitally printed and handed out by the Shabbos Goy in Government, which decide to deposit that into Corporations of their choice. The ratio of the amount of taxes Corporations pay in, relative to how much they are paid on net by the government, is $smallnumber/$bignumber. And so that is how Corporations don't pay taxes. Go to any tall office building in a city and examine size of payroll per unit temporal window against all revenues minus expenses. You'll find that annual revenue minus cost of payroll is negative. So how are the c-levels, directors, managers, employees, and share holders all walking away with huge volumes of money if there's no income for any of that? Answer: Lefty puppet is selling Ernie puppet a cup of thin air as dollars through tax shell game.Without these Religious tricks, You Carthaginians in the USA would pay $60 for that meat. Had the Government not subsidized the pyramid of profitable corporations between you and that cow. This how the government gets to privatize gains and socialize losses to everyone on planet. Every digital US dollar that leaves the USA gets transformed into Disneybux brought to a Caesar's palace. I'm sorry sir, but your digitized faith Jewscrip insta-expired itself. Zoom out, and you find someone else is paying the difference between $80 pound of meat and $4 pound of meat each time a KKK Kredit card swipes.
>>543543359>The government shouldn't existfull stopno communism no nothing
>>543543212What does it matter? If I'm poor you will say I'm jealous if I'm rich you will say I'm a champagne socialist.
>>543543163every time it emerges we should kill itsame with religion, destroy every single vehicle through which narcissists can operate. eliminate the genetic components for narcissism and judaism/psychopathy and then and only then will we be able to resume a peaceful and organized existence but a chaotic free for all is necessary for the genetic purge
>>543543463We didn’t say anything of those things, we said you’re a loser faggot pussy with a whore for a mother you dumb little bastard
>>543543359It's true. What is a government? Merely the group most capable of violence in a given territory. You remove the government. Alex wants Bob's belongings, and is willing to be violent to get them (as there is no more violent force to stop him). Howver this situation resolves ends in a government.
>>543543399Communism is stateless
>>543543463in an anarchist society you could just crush his head with a cinder block and nobody would blame you>>543543578wrong you stupid faggot
>>543543507What are we in middle school?
>>543543587That guy couldn’t lift a cinder block let alone swing one, I like my odds, I could hold him down and stick a wet finger in his ear until he cried Uncle and praised Capitalism and there ain’t a damn thing he could do to stop me
Pays a mortgage and calls himself a homeowner lol. Where's the lien sweetie?
>>543543677better system than a state
>>543543500When you kill a government, you become a government. Government is merely the most violent entity in a territory.
>>543542794the government doesnt own money, basically why jews say they're the "chosen people" and try to hoard it from everyone else too
>>543542473Preserving value is important
>>543543715>When you kill a government, you become a governmentwhat if you aren't governing anything and just eliminating any emergent properties of cult leadership from the shadows until people become self reliant and stop seeking cults?
>>543543897Who created the value? Workers, it is the worker who created everything you see in the world.
>>543543707America is the best country in the World already, the land of anything is possible, you could go from having nothing to having everything, that’s a common American tale. Y’all are just bums, no creativity, no work ethic, no drive, no ambition, not even a good joke, you’re the opposite of a good joke
>>543543897and who is that value? the natives that didn't ask for anyone to conquer them on this continent or someone else they didn't ask to be obligated to "preserving" like africans that didn't ask to pick someone's cotton
>>543544080Bro you are literally a South American who has been psyoped by the CIA into thinking your corporate rape state is good.
>>543543976>what if you're not holding power, you're just killing people who attempt to seize power?Then you're holding power.
>>543544080you're a kike who fucks his mother
>>543542473If the system pays you for owning things then the correct choice to make is to obtain those things. Change the rules of the game if you don't like it
>>543542473Hypothetically if I was able to manufacture and provide everything my family needs to stay comfy what do I need money for?>own the means of production Inb4>commieWho said I’m sharing?The ultimate goal of life should be to eliminate the need for money not to collect money?
>>543544141power =/= governancepeople can do as they please so long as they are not forming cults and feeding entities from beyond the veil
>>543544139I’m a Northern Appalachian, born and raised, through and through. You’re an anti American stupid pathetic little retard
>>543542473If I got you working for me but I payed you with copied Monopoly money but I had you so brain fucked that you thought it was real money and you kept working for me for free to me copied Monopoly money does that make you my slave?It’s called babylonian money magicEnd the Fed!!>>543544218
>>543544218>Hypothetically if I was able to manufacture and provide everything my family needs to stay comfy what do I need money for?You don't, you have achieved household scale communism which would be an incredibly impressive feat probably only achievable by far future technologies. Unless you just care about food and primitive activities.
>>543544265Ok mosheThey’re still salty from what happened 25000 years ago. They think humans caused the genetic bottleneck possibly down to dozen females. I don’t get how that’s our problem if they couldn’t get passed ugga lugga caves into a functional society. So they saw us down in the valley looking down from the mountains with our houses tools farms and livestock as an early ice age winter approaches………>hello my fellow humans And here we are…….>>543544319
>>543544263>power != governanceIncorrect.>what if I just kill all who behave in a matter I don't approve of.This is governing. People will notice and will react.
>>543544378>The ultimate goal of life should be to eliminate the need for money not to collect money?
>>543544265I'm not anti-American I'm pro-American I want Americans to have good fulfilling lives.
>>543544391Nigger you literally here saying you had a house on a mountain 2500 years ago, you’re a worthless bastard, from a worthless bastard, from a worthless bastard. You’re the spawn of centuries of whore mothers and worthless bastards. And now you’re here, doing and being just as your ancestors, no house on the mountain, no name written in the book of life, utterly forsaken and it shows, a blind man could see it and smell it on ya
>>543544424>People will notice and will react.cult members will consult their braindamaged "leaders"? may as well worry about the sky falling
>>543544452>Communism
>>543544516No, people will notice certain behaviors get them killed. People will either conform and stop those behaviors, making you a government, or they will seek you out and destroy you, making them a government. Government is an emergent property of human behavior.
>>543544378(((They))) told you to >learn to code But you should learn to lathe and learn to code cnc and cad Learn to farm learn to maintain machineries etc etc etc. >>543544452
>>543544522Fuck off NOT sharing shit with you lazy fuckLearn to weld start there >>543544509It is time to show that the cry of bigot is raised mostly by bigots. There is a religious prejudice in this country; there is, indeed, a religious persecution, there is a forcible shoving aside of the religious liberties of the majority of the people.And this prejudice and persecution and use of force, is Jewish and nothing but Jewish.If it is anti-Semitism to say that Communism in the United States is Jewish, so be it. But to the unprejudiced mind it will look very much like Americanism.Communism all over the world and not only in Russia is Jewish."- Henry Ford, The Dearborn Independent, 1922 (parts can also be found in)1922The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem.
>>543544595>No, people will notice certain behaviors get them killedright so no one will try any kike hocus pocus and tend to their homesteads and anyone who exhibits a proclivity for hypnosis/ideological supremacy/homosexuality just gets merked in their sleep
>>543544724Kek! Yes because you’re so holy buddy, you’re being persecuted by the likes of a guy on the internet who’s never even heard of you. Thank you for granting me this much power over you, I’ll hold onto it forever
>>543542473Managing and maintaining assets does create value.>>543542939Thats not real anon.
>>543544602I know how to code, I know how to operate a lathe and mill, and I know CAD, and I do maintenance on my own vehicle.
>>543544752Yes, which makes the person merking them a government. Something which is what anon said he wouldn't be. You cannot have a group of humans interacting without a government forming. It is an emergent property of human behavior.
>>543544789(((You))) might be a racist if(((You))) think everybody but (((You))) is a cattle Just saying………Do 360 and go back
>>543542473The communist manifesto claiming management doesn't create value is all you need to know the rest is retardedGo eat next years seeds because you are hungry today and see what happens
>>543544724Communism does not mean being forced to share everything.
>>543544825If just learn to farm and ranch why do need money for except for you getting extorted from your own government?End the Fed
>>543544880I didn’t say anyone was a cattle, you ever even been around cattle buckaroo? You a big old ranch hand cattle guy? Don’t speak about things you know nothing about. And just for the record I think you’re too ugly to be considered a cow, cows are the coolest looking animals there are. If a Jew ever called me a cattle I’d say thanks for the compliment, here’s a a pocketful of nickels for making my day, which would probably make his day.
>>543544854>Yes, which makes the person merking them a governmentit's only oppressive to them, the ones who mind their business and behave normally won't even know they are being "governed"more like being pruned
>>543544919>Family and Frens Kek You call it communism?Sad state of civilization in 2026
>>543545083GOYIUM!!Now what?
>>543544892It doesn't say that it says that the people doing the management should be the same people doing the labor.
>>543542473Yeah anyone with iq above 110 already knows that. But CIA psyop has worked too well on the average mutt
>>543545221>can’t get fast food order right >manage mah franchise LMAO
>>543544799>Managing and maintaining assets does create valueManagement is labour not ownership
>>543545090They will. You'll notice when your friends, family, or neighbors get killed. They'll be able to peice out who's doing it to, and what the rules are. Humans are wonderful at things like that. They will then either accept it, making you a government, or they will reject it and kill you, having formed a government themselves in the process.I'm not discussing whether super-benevolent-shadow-killer is a good form of government. Merely trying to point out it is a government. There is no possible configuration of humanity, that remains humanity, without a government forming. This is because governments are an emergent property of human behavior.
>>543545274My land which I own which I humbly tend to my humble meme and tomato farms You see my land combined with my toil created value called memes and food
>>543545208Did you really just ask me now what? I’m going to get back to work, come back and eat my dinner and do the same thing all over again tomorrow. Was hoping to play Monsters and Memories but I tried to start my computer two days ago and it wouldn’t start after moving it literally five feet from across the room, know what happened I’ll give ya a QRD. I sat there tools in hand like oh my god, I’m Samuel Griffiths, I’m a god damn Mr. Fixit level computer wiz, I can fix anything, press the power button, whole motherboard catches on fire, I can literally see the flames illuminating the inside of the PC, and I piss down my leg and blow it out and make a wish like it’s a birthday candle and I’m some poor make a wish kid. Know what I wished for? At the very least a new motherboard, preferably a new setup entirely
>>543545323Ok slave If I got you working for me but I payed you with copied Monopoly money but I had you so brain fucked that you thought it was real money and you kept working for me for free to me copied Monopoly money does that make you my slave?It’s called babylonian money magicEnd the Fed
>>543545323>memeflagOwnership is managementThe choice to do nothing with something you own is still a choice
>>543545526Kek You suck at your job Re read your notes N.C.S. logo.jpg//SECRETC:\SharePoint012USNCSSAD_Wrkc9inet-N-7339.tx?t**********************************REMINDERS —— NOTES**********************************Sensitivity LevelAction CodeTeam 5.A/SITELocation of official Agency folderNone NPRCTeam ContactSheila N******CHECKLISTDo any of the respondents display the urge to supply information that could be helpful to your mission?Do the respondents appear hostile to your attempts to steer the discussion?Have you made a personal chart taking care to note who appear to be the “leaders” versus who appear to be the “followers”?Have you attempted to gauge the “temperature” of the forum’s users?In other words, the prevailing social psychology of the forum’s members?Have you been more successful with one or the other XStart methods that were demonstrated in N-7015A.DOC?Have more technical members (Computer Programmers, Administrators, or Moderators) of the forum deduced or accused you of hiding behind a proxy?Would you gain more trust and/or credibility if you were to use one of the Agency’s allotted “HOME” pools? (most often needed when handling EVTS that are more sensitive to the pop. of a specific locale but also location centered web sites such as FB or Patch)Has your PREDEV “persona” been successful or do you gauge that the users find you to be too obtrusive? Accusations of being “ever present” are.
>>543545568>Ownership is managementManagement can be delegated
Communists might actually be dumber than niggers.
Why are communists so fucking stupid?You are colossal ideological golems formed out of bullshit.>Likee the government shouldn't exist man!>We should form a group with a monopoly on violence that kills anyone that pops up and tries to form a government!
>>543545645Yeah I ain’t reading all that schizo babble, I got firewood to split. Go get yourself a radioactive phase shifter and a junction field effect transistor and get yourself to a different timeline asap
>>543545757>Management can be delegated*scammed with fake degree with nepotism get you into management fify
>>543545924Nevertheless. It's still labour.
>>543545757Forgot your memeflag that time prakash, also>third worlder doesn't understand basic thingsDelegating the management of property is of course itself a management decision, jesus christ
>>543545879Hay!!!Cool it with AntisemitismIt is time to show that the cry of bigot is raised mostly by bigots. There is a religious prejudice in this country; there is, indeed, a religious persecution, there is a forcible shoving aside of the religious liberties of the majority of the people.And this prejudice and persecution and use of force, is Jewish and nothing but Jewish.If it is anti-Semitism to say that Communism in the United States is Jewish, so be it. But to the unprejudiced mind it will look very much like Americanism.Communism all over the world and not only in Russia is Jewish."- Henry Ford, The Dearborn Independent, 1922 (parts can also be found in)1922The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem.
>>543545976>Forgot your memeflag that time prakash, alsoI don't use one, probably changed because my phone was glitching out.>Delegating the management of property is of course itself a management decisionSure. But it's not the labour of managing the property itself. The thing that is delegated to begin with.
>>543545879look around man, they all believe themselves to be smarter than the rest.closeted faggots acting like little girls when offended.closeted racists that need "affirmative action" for minorities.
>>543545972You don’t even know who your masters are. Go eat shit If I got you working for me but I payed you with copied Monopoly money but I had you so brain fucked that you thought it was real money and you kept working for me for free to me copied Monopoly money does that make you my slave?It’s called babylonian money magicEnd the FedPSAnybody think JFK was joking?Don’t answer that most of us are dumber than the slaves of 1860s due to FLUORIDE MICROPLASTICS and eating GOYSLOPS
Reminder that management is labour and Capitalist profit is not a compensation for performing that labour. Because like all labour management can be delegated. Profit is a compensation for simply owning the means of production.
>>543546088>But it's not the labour of managing the property itself.Yes, it is, under your retarded concept. Management of a property is deciding what to do with something you control. Control is action. Decision is choosing action.If I own a property and decide to do nothing with it, I am managing it. It's a decision I have made concering something under my control and an action I carried out.If I own a property and decide to sell it, I am managing it.If I own a property and decide to rent it to someone directly, I am managing it.If I own a property and decide to hire someone to do the day-to-day mangagement of it, I am still managing it.The funniest thing is that retarded commies get angriest about the last one thanks to their imaginary capital-labor distinction, whereas in real life the owner's decision has just created a job for which someone gets paid.It's another example of Marx's retarded ideas imploding the instant you think about them
>>543545883>I got firewood to split.the only logs you are cutting are in your toilet you namefaggot pussy
>>543546386>If I own a property and decide to hire someone to do the day-to-day mangagement of it, I am still managing it.No. You are managing the decision of hiring the manager. Not the decision of what to actually do with the property. That too is a labour of sorts. Nobody claims capitalists completely sit idle.
>>543546500I have a whole YouTube channel and Instagram account of me cutting and splitting firewood. And I’m not even sure what you said is an insult, I have to assume you must be having issues just spraying out liquid shit and astroglide. Lay off the liquid diet and stop letting homos make soup of your insides. Instagram.com/hunchback_of_the_hollerhttps://m.youtube.com/@ShareacigwithSam?ra=m
>>543546540>You are managing the decision of hiring the manager. Not the decision of what to actually do with the property.You are delegating some of your control of the property to another. That is management of the property. You are making a decision about what is done with something you control. Not hiring a manager is also management. Selling it to someone else is management. You're making decisions and executing them based on something you control. Control is action.Further, you are responsible for the outcome of that decision, which is another key component of ownership/management. There's risk - a stupid, or criminal employee can damage your property. If your property is a house, and your employee rents it out to a bad person who destroys it, it's you who takes the loss. By delegating some of your authority to an employee, you take more risk than if you didn't. You also have to pay him out of the revenue the property generates, meaning you're guaranteed less money than if you did everything yourself.Ownership is management. They mean the same thing. The funniest thing, again, is that retarded commies get the angriest at the scenario of owners delegating some of their authority to someone else, even though it means the owner is accepting more risk, and profiting less, than if they just did everything themselves, and the outcome is that someone gains income and experience they otherwise wouldn't have.
>>543547230I don't see how anything you've said goes against what communists say unless you are attacking a strawman that Marxists believe that Capitalists do nothing at all. You are basically describing private property as a concept but we already know about that and you claim that it's a kind of work which was my original point to begin with.
>>543547747>you claim that it's a kind of work which was my original point to begin with.The thing is that the distinction between labor and ownership is artificial. Ownership is management is labor. A plutocrat landlord is doing work. A ditch digger is delegating his ownership of capabilities and his time. It's all the same thingIf you get to know rich people, one of the most common things you'll find in their worldview is not that "time is money," but "money is time." You pay others for their time so you can have more of your own to use on what you want to do with itMarx never got this, which is why he was poor, and why every attempt to force his misunderstanding of economics on the real world resulted in poverty and starvation
