What would it take for them to reconciliate and work together?
>>543542535Pan-Asian nationalism (no jeets) with a guarantee of Japan's sovereignty and cultural identity.
>>543542535>What would it take for them to reconciliate and work together?One of them to cease to exist.
>>543542750But China would dominate any such union
>>543542535I get why japan and china hate each other, but I don't get why japan and south korea hate each other>both hate china, north korea, and communism>both are strong US allies>both have strong capitalist economies and produce a lot of exports that the west loves (cars, electronics, entertainment) but yet they still can't get along because japan won't apologize for comfort women that happened 80 years ago or something
>>543542964>but I don't get why japan and south korea hate each otherJapan tried to erase them from existence and is still proud of it
>>543542535joint agreement to take back Russian occupied territory together (Karafuto and Haishenwai)
>>543542535Chinks pissing on memorial shrines just like jeets (china also claims) are the problem for japan. To the surprise of no one, communist chinks ARE- and always WILL BE- the problem.
>>543542535China has theme parks about peasants massacring Japanese soldiers.
>>543542964Japan brutally occupied Korea starting in like 1908 30 years before comfort women
>>543543144What is wrong about that?
>>543542535>bargaining stage of griefcarving up russia between them ofcanyway, have fun in ukraine this winter ivan
>>543542535hatred of japan is what is keeping china united, they can never give it up.
>>543543197And they still think that was the right thing to do. Whch why Koreans are upset. Also some territorial disputes.
>>543543144>>543543225does the PLA get to ride the Japanese themed roller coaster of subjugation??here comes the drop:>WAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
>>543542535It's impossible. Unless every Asian gets memory wiped and all historical texts get deleted from reality.
>>543542964Japan's stepping stone into Asia was always Korea. They failed their first two invasion, with assistance from China. They succeeded in their third attempt and occupied Korea for 30years before WW2.
>>543543297japan-china hostility is promoted by the CIA to prevent yellow domination, and to keep the jew-pedo regime in control of parts of the far east.
>>543542535Chineses newer forget what Japaneses did at Manchuria.....so forget your idea.
>>543543453China destroyed your entire economy worse than the plaza accord. Everything you use to make to make you rich, they make now to make themselves slightly less poor.
>>543542535China invading Japan
It's very easy, Americans would just need meddle less in Japanese affairs.This is why the neolib and neocon pedophiles agreed that TPP was critical to America's future.After TPP failed to include America, South Korea warmed up to CHYNA (once the feminist pedophile groomer cult was partially ousted).People forget with how bad things are under tump, but he won against opponents who would've ensured competent evil to continue its eternal boots on the people of the world (including, and likely especially Americans). They were going to enact their plan to treat everyone like a nigger unless they were in the club. Having an actual retard in the white house has slowed their plans significantly.
>>543543505Depends on which Chinese you are talking to. Most don't think about tthese events much. Water under the bridge.
>>543543536nice try. yellows are coming to kill your jew worshipping ass.
>>543543144At this theme park they throw tomatoes at a portrait of Nancy.I hear this attraction had to be taken down because chinks were self-harming instead of throwing tomatoes.
>>543543617Chinsects worships Jews. Chinsects are going to erase Japan and Japs are going to take it like good cucks
Pretty soon.Chinese hate for Japan is over-exaggerated. You all quote speeches made by some boomer CCP politician, but most younger generation don't care for all the "nanking" and all that, partly because the state never taught them about anything humiliating in Chinese history. So for them Japan is just funny anime land.Once the boomers die off, no one will really remember why they hated Japan. Plus these days China views Japan as the inferior country (by every metric, economy, military etc) so even less likely to hold a grudge.
>>543543752shalom.more jew babies will be killed. its over for israel.heil october 7
>>543543836I think you are missing the point. Japanese hate China most. Not the other way around.
>>543542535Why? That would be against the American interest. As far as we're concerned the only part of the world where there should be no conflict is Western Europe and North America, you know, where most of the white race lives.
>>543543836>>543543900>even less likely to hold a grudgeanons, I...
>>543543838Chinsects and Jews, like 2 shills in a pod.
>>543543453This.China and Japan's natural state is peace. They coexisted peacefully for thousands of years, Japan enjoyed patronage from China for most of its history as a tributary.If it weren't for the US' nefarious designs on Japan, Korea, Vietnam, and China post-WWII, China and Japan would already be at peace for decades now.In b4 they weren't nefarious, CIA literally opened up blacksites in Japan where they incarcerated and tortured Japanese citizens for wrongthink, let alone Koreans. Japan was literally ground zero for MKULTRA outside of the US, used as a staging ground for operations in Korea and Vietnam. Along with its predecessor the Civil Censorship Detachment.But the answer to OP's question, China and Japan will come to peace when the US collapses and retreats back to the western hemisphere, however long that takes. Same with Taiwan reunification.
>>543542535China needs to give up on communism and replace their ideology with something less retarded.Could be some random China first authorian ideology or pretty much anything aligned with what they actually are.Communism however doesn't work, never did, never will, and this only proven further by China effectively abandoning it in practice as well already decades ago. Unfortunately, de jure they still cling on to the ideology and it's very hard to build stable long-term relations with such schizophrenic regime that might, at any point, announce some major adjustment to correct the dissonance between theory and practice.
>>543542535Admit their war crimes>>543542964Japs invaded gookland too, retard.
>>543543144https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEDlM-cA1Z8https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TOKh4yqFi5chttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/_4GfI_RgGdkI didn't want to scrub through to find the China Show segment but here's the receipt's. Keep in mind the PLA involved with these red tourism places.
>>543543928Theoratically speaking. Japan has its own interests too that don't always mirror American ones.
>>543544058Japan and its people have no interests. We decide what their interests are at any given time, and if they need to commit economic suicide to save the American economy (Plaza accords/Japanese bond bubble) they will comply and be ordered to sacrifice their future for us.
>>543542535>What would it take for them to reconciliate and work together?Knowing both well, having lived in Japan for 6 months, and having many Japanese and Chinese friends, there is nothing that will fix this. The Chinese need to learn from the Japanese on how to strive towards continuous improvement and not just nigger rig shit and make money.Japan and China should tolerate each other and thats fine, they dont need to be love each other and they never will. Never expect the Japanese Koreans to like each other either.
>>543544002China was never communist. Neither was the Soviet Union.Mao's reign itself wasn't communist and he never managed to finish the cultural revolution which would have otherwise ushered in communism. He died before he managed to purge the counter-revolutionary elites who quickly turned China into an oligarchic plantation economy under the red princelings.Societ Union had a similar story where the bolsheviks coopted the communist movement. Bolsheviks being an arm of transnational capital and who quickly undid the communist policies that had been in place for only two years after the October? revolution.This is purely objective, based on whether they ruled the country with communist policies. Neither did.
>>543544058lol Japan has been our bitch since WW2. they have no real interests anymore.
>>543544243Japan and Korea must get along. Taiwan may as well be an island of Japan. We don't give a shit about their petty differences, they're all slanty eyed chinks as far as we're concerned. Except they're OUR slandy eyed chinks. East Asia must always remain in a state of perpetual war/stalemate.
>>543543983100%
If we're santa claus, then our asian colonies are the elves who build the toys every Christmas. If Santa's elves were sovereign they wouldn't make us our toys for Christmas now would they?
>>543544386>Taiwan may as well be an island of JapanIt was a Japanese colony.
>>543542535The Chinese have never liked the Japanese. And the Japanese got over their little brother syndrome and stopped liking the Chinese a thousand years ago. They will never be friends.
>>543544191>>543544320I know. I am just speaking theoratically. Like what Japan would want if it had freedom to decide.
>>543544668>freedom to decide>Ruslan ZininPICREL DAS MY NIGGA RIGHT HERE!
>>543544668It would have to be a completely different country. China wants its revenge for Manchuria, this is the ONLY reason why the Japanese tolerate America. Deep down, the Japanese hate America and Russia as much as they hate China.It's all about Manchuria.
>>543544668>freedom to decideMake it 10pbtid or get cubed at the front.
>>543544259Agree with this in general.Although, despite China being far from communism, on paper their regime is pursuing those communist ideals. Meaning also it's present in the laws or at least in the guiding principles and intent of these laws.And other than the social contract between their ruling elite who generally understand that communism is actually a rather shitty ideology and mostly only usable as a cover for whatever version of oligarchy they are running there are not many safeties stopping it from correcting this dissonance by adjusting the practical side towards the theory.In the USA or even similar authoritarian country like Russia the reality and ideology are relatively better in sync and any such sudden changes would lead to more systemic pushback as the alignment decreases, while in China it picking up the old Maoist plans would actually improve alignment and thus would likely happen with little resistance.And the difference between then and now is that when early Communist China was relatively irrelevant and weak they now have an insanely powerful military and industry to push the agenda.
>>543545287>China wants its revenge for Manchuria,NoHan Chinese consider Manchurians no different to Japanese or the Mongols. Foreign invaders. Manchurians didn't even write Chinese they had their own turkic script. And they imposed the bald queue hairstyles.Japan conquering Manchuria was like an enemy of my enemy thing more like a delicious irony in the eyes of the nodern Chinese. Do you think China wants revenge on Mongolia for Genghis Khan who actually conquered all of China?But the real matter is the land. Japan already ceded inner Manchuria back to China so China has no disputes there. The only land dispute with Japan is really only with Taiwan. China has more beef with Russia for claims of Outer Manchuria and parts of Siberia.
>>543542535When Japan becomes a province of China that speaks Han Chinese and Japanese culture and language ceases to exist.
>>543544043>China Show>Watching falun tranny showYou lost, tranny.
>>543545287>It's all about Manchuria.You mean Nanjing? Manchuria was very much earlier and less significant.
>>543542535dericious nood-o sorve arr probrems
>>543542535End American occupation of Japan to begin with
>>543547242I would kill those niggers for race mixing, retard.
>>543542535American troops leaving
>>543542535Japan fucked it up twice. Now they're an American puppet state; it won't happen
>>543547582Ok, kike tranny.
>>543543120The Chinese would not be ok with that. If Russia were hypothetically being divided up they would also want Sakhalin.
>>543542535(((Americans))) fully withdrawing from their country. This includes all the pdf weeb english teachers and other expats
>>543548486Yeah because things were so peaceful in East Asia before we showed up, right…..
>>543548486Whatever you say Shiina.
China giving 67% of all rare earth materials to japan
>>543543983>They coexisted peacefully for thousands of years, Japan enjoyed patronage from China for most of its history as a tributary.The world was a smaller place then, the ocean between them seemed much bigger. Japan was a completely irrelevant backwater for almost all of history until the America forced them to open up and modernize in the 1800s. The rest of this is also pretty absurd. The idea that everyone will just get along and love each other and hold hands and sing kumbya if only America just left the region is just delusional cope.
>>543542535Genuinely will never happen, Asian racism is S tier
>>543542535> What would it take for them to reconciliate and work together?This was Japan’s vision in WW2. Had they achieved this goal they would have created a powerful block that could have seriously challenged America and the west. I think WW2 and the events leading up to it poisoned the idea for the foreseeable future.
>>543543339>>543543643>>543543938>>543543955>>543548647You lost though, kike tranny.Ukraine status? Lost.Hong Kong status? Lost.Jimmy Lai status? Jailed.Iran status? Strait closed.Afghanistan status? Fled.Kek.
>>543542535Japanese government would need to stop bending over to Americans for that to happen.
