>Renewable energy is a waste of mon-ACKKKKKKcarbonfags will seethe
That means the bills are down and the middle class is growing and booming, right Nigel?
>>543554321It only makes sense to do in places that are windy and sunny. Th UK isnt sunny so solar panels are retarded. Also Germany built out 150% of their energy needs in wind and solar potential but it only produces 7% of their energy because Germany isn’t windy or sunny
>>543554321nice link, faggot
>>543555282Solar got so cheap that it's even cost effective in the UK, and we have a ridiculous amount of offshore wind. Most days we're generating nearly all our power from renewables, hydro and nuclear.https://grid.iamkate.com
>>543554321We get an absolute fuckload of our energy needs met by wind and solar.
>>543555376https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-wind-and-solar-save-uk-from-gas-imports-worth-5-9bn-during-hormuz-crisis
>>543555378Its not a cost, its that you dont have enough hours of sunshine for it to generate enough energy to pay down the carbon cost of making it during its entire lifespan
>>543555575Total bullshit, coalfucker. Even in northerly latitude it doesn't take more than 2 years to "pay off" the carbon costs, and they're good for 30.
>>543555691lol the uk will never be sunny enough for solar panels, this is a fact. Anyone putting up solar panels in the uk is actually hurting the environment. This is a fact and not open for debate
>>543555691Classic cope and seethe lol.
>>543554321UK should have windmills but the ones pictured are absolutely brainlet-tier as far as efficiency goes. There are places it makes sense to use renewables, solar objectively isn't one of them for the UK.
>>543555836Shit you made up is not a fact, Cletus. Solar has got cheaper by a massive factor and it's cost effective even in northerly climates.>>543555976Wow where did you get your engineering degree from?
>>543555282>incoherent Americunt kvetching.Trump is right you are losing money with each turn of a (European) wind turbine.
>>543556056>engineeringArchitectural engineering to be specific, having to look at these things in Pennsylvania already makes me seethe enough daily.
>>543555976I'm confused why they're still fucking with those retarded designs when they've had many more efficient and less bothersome vertical and these designs https://www.herox.com/blog/501-noiseless-wind-turbines-unveiled
>>543554321How about you save more by not importing those things from china and making them inside the uk instead?How about it climate activists that would mean LESS carbon emissions? ANDDD you are fucking silent.
>>543556372>>543556454Then you'll be aware the standard wind turbine design is very efficient. >>543556461Don't make me laugh, we can't make shit in this country, certainly not cheap and at scale. You can't emit less if you can't afford it.
>>543556454Lower your tone mutt.
>>543554321>Costs more to produce than the electricity it will generate in it's entire lifetimeLol, lmao even. Hydro and Nuclear are awesme, but Solar and Wind are worthless.
>>543554321petrol is abiotic, and a renewable, numbnuts
>>543554321power grid is too fucked for renewables atmthey need a £300billion upgrade
>>543556454Tiny turbines with novel designs are good for local electricity generation.Like on the roof of a farm, factory or even a home.And noise can be very important in those settings.But for large scale wind power it's all about keeping the cost down.A novel design that uses more material and/or is harder to make isn't economically viable.And in remote areas noise doesn't really matter.I personally can't even remember the last time I've heard a wind turbine, I hardly ever get close enough.
>>543555836>lol the uk will never be sunny enough for solar panelssolar panels work even when it is cloudythey just produce a bit less than when it is sunny
>>543556676It's still pollutes the air. That is the only reason solar and wind make sense. It's only problem is that its unreliable, so natural gas is still necessary.There's no point in using coal anymore, we have too much energy and not enough demand, though datacenters will fix that.
>>543556857It's amazing that the very existence of wind turbines makes retarded miggers seethe, like it's an affront to them
>>543556664an offshore wind FARM pays for itself in 8-12 years and the turbines normally operate for 20-30 years.
>>543556454Post-investment costs mostly, the infrastructure for the current design can't be retooled without taking a significant profit loss.>>543556541Don't take my word for it, this is basic knowledge to anyone remotely interested in renewables.
>>543556461>making them inside the ukRight-wing politicians killed that industry to save the coal mines.
>>543556883>It's still pollutes the airhardlythe West pollutes so little that wasting time and money on the ecoterrorist transition (funny that they call it a transition, just like with looney troons, btw) has insignificant results, and the only thing that's brought down are the peopleit's why ecoterrorist politics are a thing, even: it's just tyranny disguised as virtue by narcissistic sodomitespedospace moar, even
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>>543554321All wind turbines are made out of oil and coal.
>>543556953You're completely full of shit. The standard three blade design is nearly as efficient as physically possible.
>>543557063no
>>543557021kvetch moar, prairie nigger hybrid
>>543557021He's not being pedantic, he's a retarded conspiracy theorist.
>>543557084Wrong, these are not a vertical design either.
you can tell you hit a sore spot with all the shills/bots swarming the thread with the usual fake talking points
>>54355706380-90% of it can be reused since most of it is metal with a concrete base and an offshore turbine pays back its entire lifetime energy debt within 6 to 12 months. That's how long it takes the turbine to generate the exact amount of energy it took to manufacture, transport, install, and eventually decommission it
>>543557261It really seems to itch the Americunts for some reason.
>>543554321My country runs almost exclusively on renewables and yet less than 15% of our energy production comes from solar and wind combined.
>>543557063Oh also companies are figuring out how to break down the epoxy on the blades and shit to break down further and I'm pretty sure they banned land filling the blades. Literally no downsides, solar panels are just metal and glass.
>>543557121one might argue that technically new oil is slowly being produced deep underground and thus is "renewing" itself
>>543557341Solar panels are pretty easy to recycle. The only thing holding back solar panel recycling is that almost none have reached end of life yet.
>>543554321Britbong propaganda. Energy costs have never been higher there.
>>543557329The UK has a shit ton of offshore wind just because of where we're positioned and an island nation. Solar not so much but I assume solar would be better suited for costa rica.
>>543555412looks nice let's hope that gas keeps flowing
>>543557505Electricity costs are tied to gas prices at the moment because if it's not windy or night time electricity comes from gas.
>>543554321Diversifying the energy grid has always been a matter of national security to me.But retards always make it about climate change.
>>543555378It clearly says 39% oil, of which you will soon have none.Should be a nice winter for you.
>>543557505Also we don't get any extra taxes for renewable infrastructure being built that comes from a higher cost of electricity. The day we go completely off gas or gas gets cheaper (because of all the wars going on) electricity prices will come down.
>>543557599UK has 25% - 28% annual average contribution from gas-fired power. That's very high. What are you guys doing? I guess you have no hydro.
>>543557637based and realpolitik pilled
>>543557716>It's not a tax, they just raise the price.God I hope you are a paki and the average bong is not this dumb.
>>543557637Economic security too; this way the country doesn't grind to a halt every time there's a desert people slapfight in the ME
>>543557749goes back to the 50's i think when gas was discovered in the north sea and sorta become reliant on it, where as france ect took a different path with nuclear. Just one of those old bumps you gotta get over.
>>543557883The higher price is set based on our reliance on gas which is the highest cost of energy you dumb nigger mutt imagine talking shit and not understanding what i said then rewriting it to fit your retarded nigger ass agenda dipshit, your mother probably got dicked by a nigger and some of it's retarded nigger genes are still in your head.
>>543557889France is looking very intelligent for leaning into nuclear. They pay less than the EU average for energy. How much of the gas you're burning do you figure is domestically sourced? Any talk of building nuclear?
>>543557888why do you think europe went on this massive campaign to get the whole world involved? were the only ones that actually need renewables and the rest of the world helped subsidize its development
>>543558091They will build more nuclear reactors and aim to power 25% of the country with just nuclear in the next 2 decades with two new ones opening in 2030. Gas is like 45-50% norway, 30% north sea then some from the U.S and other places. Future generations in the UK will live in a country that should be (mostly) self reliant, least i got to browse an unregulated internet they never got that.
>>543554321Sorry, here we prefer efficient nuclear reactors and none of that commie windmill gay bs.Oh and btw thanks for buying a shit ton of that nuclear energy from us, soon enough It'll be double the price
>>543558091>Any talk of building nuclear?13 years of setting cash on fire and counting
>>543557948>it's not a tax, it's a 14% fee to build useless abominations all over the coastline!Fuck off, you inbred paki retard. Your Mom got dicked by her brother and you are the result.
>>543558317French BVLLS we up
>>543558388>flaglets see what the u.s windshore looks like
>>543558380you have no natives slowing down consultation processes and driving up costs... so what's the problem? enviros?
>>543558317Based frog, never forget what we did to these useless faggots 250 years ago.
>>543558514Most nuclear plants get multi year delays reported by the IEA. I don't know why that French retard is gloating Flamanville-3 in France had a TWELVE YEAR delay lmao
>>543558715OH and three times over budget lmao
>>543558380>germanon still huffing coal
>>543555378keep building wind and solar and see your energy bills continue to skyrocket, fool.
>>543558668The angloid/germoid should by now know their place in the hierarchy of things. Both of their crazy energy policies would cost them a lot more if daddy France wasn't, kindly, running a reliable nuclear grid, producing Europe's cheapest electricity
>>543554321Solar has been around for almost 100 years they could have solar cities or solar powered cars. Let that sink in.
>>543554321>>543555378>spent 5 billion over the last 5 years to turn off wind turbines as high winds would have overloaded the gridbrilliant
>>543556268Kek you dumb motherfuckers pay 3x what we do for energy.
>>543564152they'd pay twice more than that, if the fucking eu didn't force France to pay twice as much as it should, just so to subsidize krautlandian sodomitesdeath to the fucking euthe traitor gallows for all fucking eunionistsand a particular hell for krautlandian sodomites
>>543555282The uk is too windy for wind turbines.In summer solar can't handle all the sunshine and obviously useless when the rest of the year is cloudy
>>54355686275-90% decrease with heavy cloud cover
Mixed energy grids are superior by just about every metric
>>543554321Opposing renewable energy is literally the dumbest economic position anyone could ever take.
>>543554321>Winter comes. Sun doesn't shine, wind doesn't blow.What now, Nigel?
>>543554321>cng from pipelines for electricity >not shipped on container vesselsOP The Misnomer Faggot
>>543554321>relying on gas imports for electricity generationThe game was rigged from the start, this is the most retarded way you could possibly generate your electricity. Upgrading to the second most retarded way isn't a brag.
>>543556923Hopefully Pakistani rape gangs you import so much will teach your peasants asses some tricks about industrialisation
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