The Ziyang Commercial Space Launch Technology Research Institute in Sichuan, alongside CASICs 3rd Academy, Galactic Energy, and Lianchuang Superconducting, is developing a superconducting maglev zero-stage booster for Galactic Energys 100-ton Ceres-2 rocket, targeting a 2028 orbital launch following sucessful 2025-2026 platform tests.https://stcn.com/article/detail/3703749.htmlThe platform uses high-temperature superconducting (HTS) magnets and a segmented matrix power grid with flywheel energy storage to accelerate rockets along a track to supersonic speed (Mach 1+) before engine ignition, achieving 90 percent power delivery efficiency.While SpaceXs Falcon 9 weighs 549 tons at liftoff and burns nearly 500 tons of propellant just to overcome dense lower atmosphere costing $74 million per launch ($2,500-$3,200/kg), this Chinese electromagnetic catapult draws power directly from the grid. This boosts the vehicles payload mass fraction from 1.5-2.0 percent up to 3.5 percent. Consequently, the 100-ton Ceres-2 delivers 3.5 tons to low-Earth orbit at marginal costs below $800/kg, a nearly 70 percent savings over Falcon 9.Operationally, while Falcon 9 requires drone-ship booster recovery, multi-day inspections, and complex pad re-tanking, the maglev track resets in minutes, giving China an overwhelming cost and cadence advantage for rapid constellation deployment.
>>543578094Its so stupid but that's the only logical way we can build shit in space faster, the space elevator is just jewish lies and we'll never make something so complex.
>>543578094What happens to the cart?
>>543578218Scientifically it makes perfect sense. High-temperature superconductors eliminate electrical resistance (I^2R losses) to achieve >90% energy transfer efficiency. Flywheels store and discharge gigawatts of power in seconds without grid destabilization while segmented matrix switching energizes only coils directly beneath the vehicle which prevents massive inductive energy waste.China uniquely built a working demonstrator because it controls over 70% of global HTS tape production, operates extensive state-funded maglev test tracks and integrates high-impulse industrial flywheels directly into a centralized state power grid. Western aerospace relies on private capital which favors mobile chemical reusability over massive capital-intensive ground electromagnetic infrastructure that China already mastered and implemented.
>>543578536Upon reaching supersonic release speed, the rocket detaches and continues into the air while the cart remains on the track. The cart is rapidly slowed down near the end of the rail using eddy-current and regenerative electromagnetic braking, brought to a complete stop and reset to the starting position for next launch.
>>543578094Is this real?
>>543578094thanks chudGPT
>>543578094You know what, I'm fed up with cramming giant dragon dildos in my ass put me at the end of that thing I'm ready.
>>543578690The Ziyang platform completed successful subscale tests from 2025 through early 2026. They launched a 1.4-meter rocket model and reached 90 percent energy efficiency via segmented matrix power. In March 2026, trials verified reusable high-temperature superconducting magnets operating without continuous liquid cooling along with precise linear-motor control and eddy-current braking. Full-scale vehicle integration, dynamic sled decoupling and supersonic track runs are scheduled for 2027. By 2028, the team targets the first orbital launch using Galactic Energys adapted 100-ton Ceres-2 rocket to deliver a 3.5-ton payload to low-Earth orbit. So far they are even a bit ahead of schedule.
Sharif don't like it.Fuck the casbahFuck the casbah
>>543578094>When you see all this just to deliver 3.5 tons to LEO and somebody says men walked on the Moon 60y ago
>>543578094Looks gay
>>543578865When you're a fag everything looks like a dick, I guess
>>543578690BTW, the project is serious and heavily supported by the CCP. It operates as a high-priority hardware R&D program backed by state capital, regional policy and defense contractors.
For a true first stage replacement (where things become interesting), you'd need >5km of track (surprisingly feasible)>the rocket somehow being able to survive 55 atmospheres of pressure and 100gs (lmao good luck with that)>peak power of 150GW which will need a shitton of capacitors Not impossible, but currently financially not really better than rockets, plus your payloads are massively limited to bullet type satellites. It's basically betting on future massive launch demand of small payloads in a specific orbit (for what?)
>>543578833...via the computing 'power' of a single cellular phone.
>>543578218Space elevator only becomes remotely achievable if we figure out a way to produce perfectly aligned carbon nanotube cables several hundred of km long. Until then no known material even comes close to handling the massive stress centrifugal force would create.
>>543579236You are describing a full single-stage orbital gun, but Chinas platform is a zero-stage booster aiming for Mach 1-2 (10-15g), not Mach 20 at 100g, kek. Max-Q and payloads aint a problem. Staging at Mach 1-2 (especially if built at high-altitude sites like Tibet) keeps dynamic pressure absoluteky manageable. Standard satellites easily survive 10-15g without any problems. Segmented HTS tracks and industrial flywheel arrays supply localized energy surges and this avoiss giant capacitor banks. The rocket still burns liquid fuel to reach orbit, the track simply eliminates the 70% fuel penalty used just to push through dense lower air. It offloads the rockets worst phase to the power grid, thats all. Considering that the project is an absolute priority for CCP, i think it cant fail
>>543579407>the track simply eliminates the 70% fuel No it doesn't, this is just plain retarded If it would, the gs needed would be much higher
>>543579521You dont need extreme Gs if you have a 2-3 km track. Accelerating at 10-12g (well within structural limits for satellite components as i explained earlier) reaches Mach 1.8 in 5 seconds over 2.5 km. The math works because of Tsiolkovskys rocket equation: propellant mass grows exponentially with required velocity (\Delta v).
>>543579583>mach 1.8Babby Tier numbers where your supposed fuel savings become irrelevant. It only saves you about 17% propellant at the expense of a shitton more pressure you need to build your rocket against
>>543579302Maybe a phone from 1990, cheap modern phone absolutely btfos the Apollo "computer" which had barely enough power to open a .jpg
>>543579838The 70% fuel penalty i mentioned refers specifically to the lower-atmosphere phase where standard rockets burn up to 80% of their liftoff mass fighting gravity and drag while lifting heavy unburned fuel. Electromagnetic catapult replaces that initial 850 m/s Delta v burden (Mach 1.8 boost plus drag relief) with ground electricity. This bypasses the rocket equations most punishing exponential phase near sea level. Thats logical. It saves around 26% total mission propelant and far more payload.I even made some calculations for payload. Tsiolkovsky rocket equation: m_0 / m_f = e^(Δv / v_e)Exhaust velocity (v_e) = 2,800 m/s Takeoff Mass (m_0) = 100tUnassisted version (full 9,200 m/s to LEO): mass ratio : e^(9200 / 2800) = e^3.28 = 26.5. Burnout mass: 100t / 26.5 = 3.77t. Net Payload : 3.77t - 1.8t (dry stage) = 1.97tMach 1.8 boost version (saves 850 m/s Δv and gravity drag): mass ratio : e^(8350 / 2800) = e^2.98 = 19.7. Burnout mass: 100t / 19.7 = 5.07t. Net oayload : 5.07t - 1.8t (dry stage) = 3.27tResult is +66% usable payload (1.97t -> 3.27t) for the exact same mass. +66% usable payload + saving 26% total mission propelant = 800$/kg instead of Falcon 9s 3000$/kg. Not to mention all other advantages for mass space deployment.
>>543580230I trust this polack over the dumb krausThr polack sounds smart. Sounds like he know his shitThe german sounds dumb as shit
>>543580230>800$/kgI forgot to add that thats the maximum price btw. Electromagnetic launch swaps thousands of dollars in refined liquid fuel for grid power. Accelerating a 100-ton rocket to Mach 1.8 consumes only $1,500 in electricity which might push marginal costs well below maximum $800/kg. It might be even $200/kg xDChinas electricity is the worlds cheapest due to massive scale and fuel mix: heavy hydro, wind, solar capacity in regions like Sichuan, balanced by low-cost coal and nuclear baseload. Westoids cant afford such edge. Also ultra-high voltage DC transmission delivers remote power across thousands of kilometers with minimal loss. State-directed pricing subsidizes bulk power for strategic high-tech infrastructure as well
>flagwhere is the xD at the end?
>>543580650oh never fucking mind there it isdisregard everything this poster says, he is a known zigger/chink shill
>>543580673>>543580704Why are you using the EU flag, Polish subhuman? Despite being silly, it still looks more "serious" than the white-red one? I am not ashamed to expose this inferior flag, because what matters is not symbols but facts xD
>>543578094Vely implessiv
>>543580818turn off the VPN, pidor.
>>543578536yeeted at the local village, like the chinese rocket boosters
Misle talk with LLMs! lol
>>543580650>It might be even $200/kg xDBTW, Galactic Energy is developing reusable liquid-fueled variants for the Ceres-2 platform, incorporating throttlable, re-ignitable engines to enable controlled stage recovery. Integrating upper-stage reusability with a maglev catapult solves the traditional weight penalty, allowing the rocket to carry heavy heat shielding and landing propellant without sacrificing payload mass. Ceres-2 is not reusable and it already devastates Falcon 9 in price per kg of payload. But the Pallas-1 is reusable and developed only for this maglev catapult. If implemented, it could reduce the cost to $200/kg
China’s “socialism with Chinese characteristics” and Putinism have produced very different results.When Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, China had no HarmonyOS, the C919 had not even rolled off the production line, and China exported only about 910,000 cars a year.Now China has HarmonyOS, the C919 in commercial service, and exported 5.86 million cars in 2024. Its population was also about 40 million larger in 2024 than in 2014.
>>543578094If the accelerator shoots out the rocket over mach one before then engines ignite, then it would be suprsonic for its entire flight path. So why is the rocket not pointy? Normal rockets are round because t hey start off slow when the air is thickest. Also that much investment for mach 1 might not be worth it. Its not really that much energy in the scheme of things. Also those engines have nozzles optimized for atmospheric use, those would be much larger as well.
1980s:USSR: domestic planes, rockets, cars.China: catching up.Now:China: planes, rockets, cars, even its own OS.Russia: Chinese cars, Chinese electronics, Chinese and Turkish refrigerators and washing machines.Quite a reversal.
>>543581037Russia would be much worse off as a post-90s neocolony of the West. Today Russians would clean toilets in the West like inferior Polacks and Ukroids. Russia and China are strategic partners.
Only one thing right about this. There won't be humans left. Certainly no dollar rofl mao and no blue sky
>>543581217There are million of Russians cleaning toilets in Germany
>>543581245Russian diaspora in the West is mostly a result of the 90s emigration caused by the Soviet Union disintegration and parasitic capital penetration of the West by Jewish oligarchy working for the ZOG/globohomo like Khodorkovsky
>>543581309Back to subject.China's manufacturing is growing.Russias is not.China has reversed brain drainRussia has not
>>543579982Haha, I love that shitLike some tech priest ritualJust imagine the factory floor"Every bit of this binaric catechism must be performed correctly or else"Still lmao at the people being shizos about thisYeah, with lots of planning, over a dozen separate rocket trips and tests, an army of engineers and draftsmen and a mind boggling budget in a non-financialized economy amidst a national project level enthusiasm you can assemble and bring that stuff up there with the techIf they werent retards but honestly interested they could probably still get the distinct laser return peaks when they manage to target the mirror still on the surface of the moon even if it got a little dusty over the years even in the non-atmosphere of the moon
>>543578094I hope they succeed! Anything related to the universe is cool
>>543581309Ah yes, it's all due to one specific point in history of an imagined pastStupid fucking retard it was always capital and it knows no national allegiance
>>543581494Yeah, it is pretty cool what an economy and its people effectively cooperating accross tens of thousands could/might do when it isnt fale and gay yet at the service of billionaire subhumansI used to be a bit of a chud about China and I still dont trust the CCP at all but bagging that billionaire rat jack ma was based on the basis that je was a billionaire subhumanHow's that for an incentive structure?Wanna do the billiobaire bit wjere you think you get to involve yourself in natl. governance because you have money?To the gulag, bitchLmaoFuck the soviet empire too btw
>>543581074Ultra-sharp points melt at sea-level Mach 1.8. A rounded ogive nose creates a detached bow shock which is pushing extreme aerodynamic heating away from the vehicls skin. Rocket math is exponential, not linear. Eliminating the first 850 m/s (kinetic velocity plus gravity drag) bypasses the worst part of Tsiolkovskys rocket equation and this alone yields a +66% payload boost, read: >>543580230Igniting at Mach 1.8 actually helps nozzle efficiency. Because ignition happens higher and faster, engines can use larger higher-expansion nozzles optimized for lower ambient pressure, boosting specific impulse immediately.
>>543578094>the maglev track resets in minutes, giving China an overwhelming cost and cadence advantage for rapid constellation deployment.giving China an overwhelming payload and rate-of-fire advantage for ICBM launches...
Its quite fascinating how escape velocity for me and elephant is same.
>>543581812Eat less, piggy
>>543581797modRNA/LNP "vaccines" that populations of the West are being deliberately poisoned with by their own respective governments are fully enough for gradual inheritable genomic instability and peaceful depopulation of this idiocratic, expensive and unproductive resource-depleting biomass. You dont need a thermonuclear war for the culling nowadays xD
In how many years will China build its own space station or base on the moon?Will Russia even have space program by then?
Classic Chinese reusable rocket tech is quite promising too. ZhuQue-3 and Long March 12A use liquid methane, not RP-1. Methane burns cleanly, leaves almost no soot or coking in turbopumps and chambers, so they avoid Falcon 9s labor-intensive flushing and de-sooting between flights. ZhuQue-3 also uses a stainless-steel hull instead of Falcon 9s aluminum-lithium alloy. Stainless tolerates higher re-entry temperatures, reducing thermal protection and cuts raw-material and tooling costs. Falcon 9 is limited to 3.66 m by US highway transport; ZhuQue-3s 4.5 m diameter gives better volumetric efficiency, lower bending stress and better re-entry stability without Starship-scale infrastructure. Long March 12A uses off-the-shelf private methane engines (Longyun-70) in a state-developed airframe using low-cost metals, and 3D printing to undercut traditional defense-grade procurement. China may leapfrog Falcon 9s reuse economics by combining clean methalox, stainless steel, wider diameter and hybrid commercial supply chains. This could yield lower refurbishment, material, and manufacturing costs, plus faster turnaround. Chinas model may win on cost, but must prove reliability, launch rate, and reuse lifetime, and this is a matter of next few years.
>>543581853It doesn't matter, thats what he meant
>>543582890It matters, obesity is directly related to calorie intake
>>543582781ZhuQue-3 has demonstrated the technical capability to do what Falcon 9 does: reach orbit, deploy a satellite, and land its booster. But Falcon 9s current dominance comes from operational maturity: hundreds of recoveries, dozens of reflights per booster and near-weekly cadence. ZhuQue-3 is at the demonstration stage now turning into industrial one.
>>543580988Maybe they get lucky and it lands in the Yangtze or yellow river.
>>543582781>>543583409BTW, China has drastically scaled up its launch volume and satellite deployment recently. The US still holds the net lead in annual launches and total payload mass driven primarily by Falcon 9 fleet.China is closing this operational gap rapidly through the industrial mass production of expendable and semi-expendable commercial rockets (scaling toward 100+ annual launches) to support LEO megaconstellations like Qianfan and Guowang. This deep-dive breaks down Chinas jump from 68 orbital launches in 2024 to 93 in 2025, with targets exceeding 140 launches. It highlights that during specific periods (such as Q1), Chinese launch volume briefly surpassed US numbers.https://keeptrack.space/deep-dive/china-launch-cadence-2025-2026Details how Chinas commercial launch sector completed 30 commercial launches in the first half of the year alone (a 26% year-over-year increase in total launches and a 46% increase in orbited satellites). It underscores how modular, single-use, and solid-fuel commercial rockets (like Galactic Energys Ceres-1 and CAS Spaces Kinetica) are scaling up deployment before fully reusable liquid rockets take over.https://www.qiyufz.com/en/news/china-commercial-space-mid-year-report-2026-30-launches-206-.htmlThis report analyzes how China is closing the satellite and space capability gap through state-backed industrial strategy. It explicitly notes that while China still trails the US in LEO broadband due to a lack of operational reusable rockets, its rapid surge in satellite deployment and domestic manufacturing is eroding traditional US leads.https://itif.org/publications/2026/06/08/how-innovative-is-chinas-space-industry/If China begins to scale up its reusable tech like ZhuQue-3 (already fully operational) and experimental tech like the superconducting maglev zero-stage booster, the USrael is cooked - Chinese launches will easily dwarf US-American ones.
>>543578094nice CGIplus for me it looks more like weapon system
>>543582759they have a space station right now, it's called Tiangong, and it looks almost certain that it'll be the only space station in orbit by 2030 unless the ISS somehow gets renewed which is unlikely given how old and decrepit it is.
>>543584579 #Tiangong was designed for future modular expansions. ISS is a ruin without future xD Tiangong has a lot of objective technical edge too. Its flexible triple-junction gallium arsenide solar arrays achieve >30% efficiency, double the ISS rigid silicon panels (around 15%). This yields comparable power with far less mass. It is the first human-rated station using Hall-effect thrusters which ran 8,240 hours flawlessly, offering 10x higher specific impulse for orbit maintenance. Its modular standardized design is actively expanding from three to six modules (90 -> 180 tons) with dedicated docking ports and a co-orbiting Hubble-class telescope. Meanwhile the ISS exceeds its 15-year design life, it is full of cracks, leaks and obsolete spacesuits. ISS is good only for deorbit desu.https://youtu.be/d0I1t55ubUQ
>>543585614nice tinder ad, dumbass
>>543585614yeah I know, cool stuff. People forget that the core of the ISS is unironically Soviet, not even russianshame the west has decided that space exploration is gay except for this current moon race, but even in that I seriously doubt if the artemis program will ever really result in any great success beyond maybe one or two manned landings before giving up, and even that's a long shot in my eyessucks having been a space fan my whole life, and only seeing things get worse
>>543585928The ISS was designed for a 15-year life (1998-2013), with deorbit planned long before 2026. The station depends critically on Russian hardware. Post-Soviet Russia built them: Zvezdas construction coincided with Russias capitalistic transition, hence chronically underfunded throughout the 1990s. Zarya launched in 1998 built by Russian engineers under US contract. These are Russian Federation achievements, not Soviet, actually. Zvezda provides all primary attitude-control thrusters and the main reboost engine. Progress cargo ships perform most orbital boosts. NASA cannot independently maintain altitude or avoid debris without Russian propulsion. Soyuz was the sole crew transport for years. Russian docking ports (SSVP, APAS) are used by all visiting vehicles. Russia thus retains indispensable technical leverage. Thats why i always claimed that if Russia and China _really_ joined their space potentials, Westoids would be cooked.
>>543578094If the chinks have that hydrogen boron fusion reactor it's beyond over for the west. China would basically have the next engine.
>>543579001Gotta love communism just yesterday I was reading about the CCP being a bunch of educated farmers trying to overcome western capitalist opression and now they are launching rockets to explore space
>>543578094Interesting. I always thought a catapult would be P shaped to reduce cost. (So it would spin on the same rail, and escape.)Anyone know why they are doing it this way?>>543578218>>543579362A space elevator would be much easier for the moon and low gravity planets. Its just not feasible for Terra. But the concept is not bullshit.
>>543586583CCP cadres are socialized in Marxist-Leninist dialectics, prioritizing national self-reliance, strategic tech, and ecological planning over profit. This mirrors Stalinist cadre culture: discipline, industrialization, resource independence. Western elites, by contrast, are parasitic, careerist and self-serving.
>>543578536There gonna make a gameshow sleds vs pakis
>>543586799Better to be wrong with the party than right without it
this is just some ace combat bullshit lol
>>543578094big if true
>>543586953Chinas regular death penalty for top corrupt officials makes elite corruption a negative-value gamble, deterring predation. Western elites face fines, lobbying loopholes and revolving doors, not physical execution/extermination. Epsteins case symbolizes impunity. Without such penalties, wealth concentrates in speculation, private equity, and data-center/AI bets optimized for labor replacement and monopoly rents. Chinas AI strategy, by contrast, is embedded in five-year plans, industrial upgrading, and national self-reliance. It is far more optimized, realistic and basically pro-human. Western elites openly aim at mass-murdering their expensive and resource depleting nations with "genetic vaccines", LGBTQ+, euthanasia etc, and replacing exterminated masses with much cheaper 3rd world immigration and data centers. China also bets on AI/robotics but as a balanced tool to counter low demographics, not as a pretext to outsource everything to India and flood the country with niggers. Moreover Chinese AI is pragmatic, already inplemented in economy in many productive ways. USraeli AI is so far mostly a toy without much practical usage.
>>543584579>>543585614>>543587323Putinism, in one timeline:1930s USSR: radio-controlled teletanks.1980s USSR: space station, rockets, military and civilian planes, cars, electronics.1980s China: no space station, no crewed spaceflight, weak planes, weak cars, weak electronics.2026 China: space station, rockets, passenger planes, world-class cars, electronics, HarmonyOS, AI, millions of industrial robots.2026 Russia: no independent space station, civilian plane production nearly dead, Sukhoi/Yakovlev dependent on foreign components routed through China and Turkey, Chinese cars and electronics everywhere and after once pioneering teletanks, Russia has to import Iranian Shahed drones.From Mir, planes and teletanks to Chinese parts and Iranian drones.Quite an industrial reversal.
>>543578094>The Ziyang Commercial Space Launch Technology Research Institute in Sichuan, alongside CASICs 3rd Academy, Galactic Energy, and Lianchuang Superconducting, is developing a superconducting maglev zero-stage booster for Galactic Energys 100-ton Ceres-2 rocket, targeting a 2028 orbital launch following sucessful 2025-2026 platform tests.>The platform uses high-temperature superconducting (HTS) magnets and a segmented matrix power grid with flywheel energy storage to accelerate rockets along a track to supersonic speed (Mach 1+) before engine ignition, achieving 90 percent power delivery efficiency.>While SpaceXs Falcon 9 weighs 549 tons at liftoff and burns nearly 500 tons of propellant just to overcome dense lower atmosphere costing $74 million per launch ($2,500-$3,200/kg), this Chinese electromagnetic catapult draws power directly from the grid. This boosts the vehicles payload mass fraction from 1.5-2.0 percent up to 3.5 percent. Consequently, the 100-ton Ceres-2 delivers 3.5 tons to low-Earth orbit at marginal costs below $800/kg, a nearly 70 percent savings over Falcon 9.>Operationally, while Falcon 9 requires drone-ship booster recovery, multi-day inspections, and complex pad re-tanking, the maglev track resets in minutes, giving China an overwhelming cost and cadence advantage for rapid constellation deployment
>>543588540China retained a Leninist party-state and Marxist dialectics as a pragmatic method( contradiction analysis, experimentation, long-term planning, industrial policy) while Russia after 1991 abandoned ML ideology, embraced oligarchic shock therapy and rentier exports. Result: China built manufacturing, R&D, infrastructure, tech; Russia deindustrialized, importing cars, electronics, drones etc. Dialectics alone didnt cause it; institutions and policy did. For Russia, a long-term partnership with China (resources, energy, agriculture exchanged for manufactures and tech) preserves more sovereignty and avoids IMF-style conditionality, debt traps and extractive peripheralization than becoming a Western neocolony. So Russia will be much better off anyway. China needs Russia currently as a lab for new generation warfare, and is ready to pay with tech in exchange for data-feed from Russian sensors. Russia is doing very well vs entire "collective West" and its 1 trillion dollar weapon/aid-fed proxy with only symbolic/tiny Chinese help. Thats a very good sign. If Russia manages to defeat the Ukrainian proxy, it basically means that the entire West was defeated because taking such vulnerable NATO members like Baltic states is a piece of cake compared to fighting millions fanatical banderists armed with all kinds of high end Western weapon systems and intel.
>>543578625thanks ChatGPT
>>543578094So you're saying that outsourcing all the rocket manufacturing and launching to some private capitalist's pet project is inefficient and expensive?
