Before the rise of islam the lands that today are morocco and tunisia were christian and spoke a romance language and had been part of provinces located in what is today Spain.There was no cultural concept of morocco or tunisia at the time, it emerged around the 1200s. Spain has existed as a defined territorial concept since at least 1000 BC, much like Italy.
>>543584192only the coastal cities had a romance language majority of peasants and commonera spoke amazigh like languages
>>543584332there were non coastal cities in that region?like vast population centers that were continuously inhabited? places that had masonry and outer walls? cause that's what OP is talking about, that there were nomadic tribes present sure but do they constitute a civilization or should you have a hard inward look and realize they were the exact fringes of civilization, the barbarians or berbers beyond the gates.
>>543584332also was chalcedonian christians not the christianity found in europe
>>543584332This is completely false. The interior of certain provinces had latin languages as well.
>>543588033Absolute fucnkng retard. Chalcedonian christianity is another way of saying regular christianity. Chalcedon was one of the councils in the early church.
No shit, christians lost it, like they lost the middle east, caucuses, all of fucking Anatolia and large chunks of Europe for hundreds of years, they were too busy killing Europeans that didn't worship their magic jew
>>543586249yes concentrated in the mountains, and for morroco on the west coast>>543588033chalcadonian whas just accepted christianity, christianity split in the 10/11th ventury between west and east>>543588680that is only in certain areas in tunis, in algeria its just the coastal towns and morroco a few outpost
>>543584192Absolutely shitbrain take. Before inception of Christianity in North Africa, Morocco, Libya, Algeria and Egypt had distinct culture of amazigh and berber people. Ever heard of Carthage, Numidia and Mauretania? They existed around Roman times.
>>543588033Chalcedony refers to the pre-bible Christendom which consisted of at least 34 different cults which preserved a variety of aspects of Christendom, until 1 particular cult influenced the Roman Emperor enough to render all the others "heresy".Should be noted that the meaning of the word heresy in Latin (Haeresium) is choice, lifestyle.In essence, any lifestyle that wasn't the approved Catholic way, any worldview that wasn't Catholic, was denounced as a wrong choice.Because of this, most of the wisdom within Christendom was lost.Fortunately the Copts kept records of a lot of it.Even more fortunately, we found a lot of them in Nag Hammadi.
>>543584192>>543584332>>543586249In early Christian centuries, years 33 to 330 there was Swedish speaking rule over SpainBUT they came from Sweden they didnt live in Spain before they went there, and Spain was inhabited by last tribes of Celtic tribes who still lived.(they were so called Goths, today there is remnant of them in Sweden, cities Gothenburg, county of Goth and island of Gothland)Latin language came to Spain a bit later. Brought by Holy Roman Empire.I find it interesting how few records there are of pre-islamic Spain
>>543589553goths came at the end of the 5th century togheter with geeman suebis and iranian alans, spain whas seen as the wild west in rome, akin to new mexico and north mexico during the cowboy age, just mineral extraction
>>543589876well I dont know the exact date of goths but I know they were there at least a century before islamization began
>>543590060yeah they ruled a estimated 130 years, they remained arian for the majority of it before converting to chalcadonian christianity, its why they left almost nothing behind in spain
>latrinoIs that after the Spanish became arab rape babies?
>>543590184nigga a estimated 30-50k arabs moves into iberia, a population of 10-15m at the time, the north african genetics where alrrady in southern spain pre carthaginian times, majority of moors after the 9-10th century where just muslim spaniards LARPING as yemeni arab tribes or syrian tribes whatever
>>543590184>Arain (also known as Raeen) are a large Punjabi agricultural community with a strong political identity and level of organisation. Arain are predominantly Muslims, 99.91% at the time of the 1931 census in Punjab, but a small population of Arain in India also follows Sikhism, Hinduism and Jainism.Spanish literally have poo DNA. Spanish are jeets lmao
>>543590332>Using the proportions of modern Saudi Arabs as a proxy, we can estimate that the Bedouin-like admixture made up 75% of medieval Arabs' genomes. That would give a total of about 8% of Arabic DNA in a South Spanish genome today.Once you fuck your genome there is no going back. Noneefunds.
>africa was WHIIIIITE until black genetic experiments escaped from the aryan genelabs under the pyramidsWE
>Autosomal DNA, inherited from both parents, shows varying degrees of North African ancestry across the Iberian Peninsula. Studies consistently find higher levels of North African admixture in the southern regions of Spain, such as Andalusia, reflecting the longer duration and intensity of Moorish rule in that area.No refunds
>>543590431nigga thats utterly retarded, saudi arabian arabs are the nomads who stayed behind, after the umayyads fled to spain, no arab tribes migrated into spain since they where cut off from abbasid maghreb, the only ones who came in later in spain where mercenary berbers, majority of andalusian nobles painted their hair black even the andalusian pirates who took over crete looked like the average white person in the med
>>543590522dont forget to mention that this goes back to even pre carthaginian times
>>5435841921. Only a minority of coastal cities spoke a romance language2. The Iberian rule of the Visigoth barely lasted some 250 years3. We could have very well shifted permanently to your sphere of influence had things gone another way but they didn't and the migrations from the east (phoenicians, jews, rashidun, hilalians, etc...) always had a more long lasting cultural influenceSame applies to Anatolia / Turkey
>>543590662The DNA doesn't lie
>>543591056>The Iberian rule of the Visigoth barely lasted some 250 yearsActually it only lasted 105 years
>>543591056maghreb whas a bit different, tunesia and north east algeria where much more connected to the roman world, vast majority of western algiers and morroco had almost no contact, the maghreb whas mote of a buyer seller kind of thing to the romans
>>543591105in a few select people but almost nothing changed for the average iberian also provide your study, and not headlines from some shitty newspaper gonzales
