Has anyone noticed the narrative around the holohoax is changing? The cultural narrative has always been that the holocaust was so terrible not necessarily because of the scale (there have been plenty of genocides with higher death tolls), but because it was done in such an industrial and clinical way incorporating (at the time) modern technology; also memes about German efficiency applied to killig humans, etc.But I increasingly find that when you bring up such things as Auschwitz having an infirmary, or the fact that it would have been much easier to starve all the jews to death, true believers will simply retort that it was just a "labor camp" and that the real holocaust was all the killings that happened as the Germans moved across Eastern Europe, and so on, and the "industrial killing" narrative was never real.Anyone else notice this?
>>543584415> the Holocaust is external to history, beyond human understanding,[2] a civilizational rupture (German: Zivilisationsbruch), and something that should not be compared to other historical events.[3][4]Jews are beyond high on their holocaust farts.
If they made Auschwitz 3 the site where they claimed industrial processing of jews, it would be more legit. But its still operating as a chemicals company today. The "real" one is clearly reconsteucted, with walls removed, ceiling holes added and a flimsy door
>>543584415>was done in such an industrial and clinical waySo torturing 20 million people to death like the bolshevists did is better because it's not so clean and more dirty and more loosh is released?((Who))) would use this logic?
>>543584415It happened. They burnt 700,000 jews in an oven
>>543584501They have to make it special that way because if the Holocaust was exactly as claimed (it is, polschizo it didnt happen but they deserved it nonsense notwithstanding), then people will still go back to not giving a shit when enough time passes, same as every other historical attrocity
>>543584565Many more slavniggers fought for the reds than the whites in their civil war so they got what they fought for.Majority of jews in Europe were powerless poor people squatting in their smelly ghettos while a small minority had all the influence and money.Hitlers plan was Deportation and we put them in camps for the same reason Americans put all Japanese and dozens of Germans in their camps.Hitler was stupid and should have avoided the war at all costs and finish the full deportation of the jews from at least German 1939 controlled Europe at least first.
>>543584501Jewish behaviour is always feminine and like a woman, see pic related to understand the psychology of your enemy. Once you notice it, you can't unnotice it.The our genocide was special shtick is "I'm not like other girls, I'm one of a kind". Such an obvious lie but women will try it.
>>543584415No. They just say "yes nazis were that autistically retarded, that the genocide was more important than winning the war".
I've been shitting on your tits sir
>>543584415You know it was a labor camp and a death camp at the same time right? Not all people were sent do death, they needed slave labour.
>>543584415I've noticed that Internet censorship and online identity verification has become super necessary since Israel did their genocide of Palestine.
>>543585620>jews>laborYou were supposed to make it believable, not add crazy claims. -10 hasbara tokens
>>543584415no, most leftists and cuckservatives still cry as much about the holohoax and always bring it up as a shield even when slightly criticising zionist israelis (inability to mention jews)
Does any of this even matter?The actions of Germany during WW2 are completely unrelated to the crisis of globalization and the great replacement today, this is a complete red herring and one's position on politics and demographics should not depend in any shape or form about the actions of wartime Germany 75 years ago.
>>543585620>they needed laborTo do what? What did the labor camps produce?They also needed energy supplies. It’s the reason they invaded southern Russia. Despite this, they used huge amounts of energy in cremations so no trace of the victims would remain.
>>543584415The narrative is shifting because the grifters who overblew how bad Jews had it during the 90s and 2000s are dead now. Yeah, the Nazis murdered people en mass because of standing orders. But most of the deaths were "shoot every fighting age male and dump them in a grave outside the town as retribution for resisting". But execution rollercoasters and Jew soap got big numbers on television and improved people's perception of Israel so that's what they ran with.
>>543584415>there have been plenty of genocides with higher death tollsName two
>>543586897The Great Genocide of Your Mom's Pussy me and lads did back in 1972
>>543586897Stalin purges, Mao's purges, Americans exterminating native Americans, Mongol genocide of Persia, Japs killing 30 million Chinamen etc etc etc......
>>543586958That's one. Nobody here can name two (plural) as claimed in modern history.
well obviously jews move to the next scheme once they've milked it dry
>>543586897Congo atrocities.
>>543586998How on earth are political purges genocides? China had 450 million people in 1940 lol. Persia lost around a few million. If you extrapolate ALL the European powers and ALL the Americas maybe you get 50 million.The fact is the Holocaust remains one of the most murderous genocides in modern history. Others approach it in number, and I don't believe in genocide exceptionalism, they are all insane.
>>543584415You are correct, and the most important reason for this shift is the repeatedly revised death tolls from 'extermination camps', which require historians to find the alleged deaths elsewhere, and of course Einsatzgruppe activities were sufficiently diffuse and distributed to compensateObvious case in point is Bloodlands by T. Snyder, who shamelessly shuffles death tolls outside the camps (well it seems shameless, reading between the lines I suspect it did hurt his intellectual conscience a bit)
>>543587083Researchers argue 1 to 15 million deaths. Do you notice a commonality? Most people have different views on the specifics. Like even the Simon Wiesenthal people were claiming about 4ish million as more realistic into the 70s. The number is not important when you've wiped out villages, bloodlines, and left people who are clearly abit damaged and currently lashing out. If we just keep murdering each other all that education js empty
>>543584415The Nazis were all Zionist Jewish actors, so this or that detail is nothing but distraction to keep you away from the real frame which is far bigger.
>>543587171Seems kind of retarded to compare industrial age genocides to older ones, given relative population numbers Jews themselves have always been the most genocidal of all peoples, as their books attest, as well as e.g. the records of the complete depopulation they visited upon Greek Cyprus and Northern AfricaThere's literally nothing more jewish than genocideAlso, I'd argue for the induistrial age, the genocide of Ukrainians BY JEWS was worse than the holocaust in raw numbers
>>543587240>these deaths happened outside this perimeter therefore adding them together to arrive at a total is intellectual cowardice>people being shot and piled into massgraves isn"t really a genocide, but the breeding bottleneck for people on welfare with personality disorders is Yeah ok
>>543587393True
>>543587405>whataboutery>>543587393150k in the Wermacht *is* kinda weird
>>543587171Purging ideological enemies is the same as purging religious enemies, therefore i deem it as genocide
>>543587171>If you extrapolate ALL the European powers and ALL the Americas maybe you get 50 millionThe American genocide of Native Americans alone is at least 30 million dead
>>543587457Savitsky was liberated from those camps and his paintings show the horrors of camp life.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando
>>543584415Yes. As much as the jews don't want to admit it the narrative on the holohoax has shifted so much that what would have once have been considered "holocaust denial" is now the position held by basically everyone left who still thinks it happened. Gas chambers and "industrial genocide" are dead memes and even jewish shills themselves will claim most of the deaths were roving bands of murdering Einsatzgruppen. Which is to say, they're now arguing that it was essentially Rwanda with guns instead of machetes.This already undermines the jews' sacred position as the victims of the super special and unique genocide at the center of the new Western world order. And if the narrative could collapse that much in spite of their total control of all centralized media and their immense influence in all Western governments and corporations, then just imagine how much further it can fall. My theory is that them pushing so hard for such an outlandish version of events will end up causing future generations to doubt even the stuff that really did happen.
>>543587420You're missing the point, and deliberately soThe intellectual cowardice isn't finding deaths outside this perimeterIt's finding deaths outside the perimeter when the evidence wrt that perimeter doesn't support the pre-set numbers anymoreWe all know Snyder would never have been able to publish his book if he had skimped even a little bit on the holy 6 million>>543587461>whatabouteryNot exactly, because it indicates jews may very well be projecting
>>543587604>>543587644Non starterStay the fuck away from the Falklands faggot
It took decades to shift culturally, but the Auschwitz-centered Holohoax died with the zundel trial in 1988.The "Holocaust by Bullets" is harder to disprove, since, unlike death showers, people actually die that way, so it's a better tactic. But the problem is, they can never find any of the mass graves that would be necessary.
>>543584415No it was because jews were seen as victims and nobody cares anymore because the jews stopped pretending to be victims. The jews had to make the germans seem "evil" to justify war against them which is fake propaganda.
>>543587723Why do you fags always bring up those islands, are they THAT important to you?
>>543587679Yes, so presumably, Savitsky knew what he was talking aboutIn the colorized version (which has been sanitized for exposition), the victims are clearly uncircumcised, too
>>543587710The issue is they taught us fake propaganda in school as fact. So this was done intentionally to make Americans resent the germans and to justify war against them. Also nuclear bombs are probably fake as well. Remember everything changed when the jews genocided Palestine. And when Russia invaded Ukraine. So much for upholding the "rules based order". So much for a 2 state solution. Nobody even tries to talk about that anymore. It's just been a slow power creep. >Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel>No 2 state solution>Open genocide of Palestinians. >Open war against IranWhen the jews pretended to be victims all our lives when they were aggressors the entire time.
>>543586897ENTER
>>543584415Yes. The camps are the symbol, but the numbers don’t add up, so killings in the field are more prominent.The problem with this is the Jews weren’t really ‘Innocent’. They were active participants in the war and were known to be very vicious themselves. They just weren’t wearing national uniforms.
>>543586897Just to clarify: do you still believe the six kabillion kike death number during the holohoax?
>>5435881591.5 to 3 mill>>543588304I think it may actually be underestimated.
>>543588424>I think it may actually be underestimated.>Hitler erased the kike planet like in my Japanese anime blud fr fr
>>543587784>According to his second wife, he had at times considered evading a possible jail sentence in Germany by declaring himself to be a Jew in order to exercise the "right of return" under Israeli law and seek asylum thereWhat did he mean by this
>>543587723Fuck off, kike. Holocaust never happened but it will and none of you hook nosed parasites will survive it.
>>543585147This pic needs more spreading, like AIDS
>>543587710they push this shit because it singlehandedly destroyed Catholicism by making the pope ok with shit like Vatican 2, which happened right after world war 2 specifically because jews cried so much about it that they shouldn't be persecuted.Nevermind that in ancient history jews had to dress in different clothing if they lived in a christian nation,ww2 removed all of that.
It'll always change to whatever they need it to be
>>543587393>>543587457>>543587679>>543587890Fake disinfo propaganda. I have no idea why white people to this day don't understand what Germany was about. It was about liberating the germanic people's from jewish tyranny. You are all jewish brainwashed christkike golems. Think racially and you would understand even if the jews helped the germans exterminate communists they were only doing so to save their own skins but they were next anyway.
>>543588248>They were active participants in the war and were known to be very vicious themselves. They just weren’t wearing national uniforms. Which makes them worse because they are then considered partisans and not protected by the Geneva conventions for the rules of war. Jews assassinating Germans pretending to be civilians is why the Germans placed them into camps. So how could the holocaust be real when the jews were really the tyrants the entire time? The germanis specifically wore bold uniforms intentionally so you knew who was a solder and who was not. But the jews were just terrorists in WW2.
It's crazy how they managed to drag a lie for decades and make profit from it.
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>>543587171You're captured by fucking semantics. Killing is killing, dumb bitch. And there is proof of mass internment for the "Holocaust", but zero proof of mass scheduled genocide. Specifically, there are literally zero recovered orders to execute or schedule executions. Zero documents even talking about how to maintain the most unbelievably efficient crematoriums ever made. I'm amazed that people think the Germans simultaneously were able to destroy every single direct proof of methodical genocide and disposal being carried out, yet they didn't also employ the same methodology to hide or later destroy evidence of their top secret nuclear programs and weapons programs and even Enigma program, which we all obtained knowledge of and were much smaller by a massive matter of scale. Directions, processes, methods, etc all which were taken by our governments and used to build science programs and even the space race. That, versus...shoes? Pictures of emaciated bodies? Reconstructions of chimneys? So they did NOT hide the things that actually had consequences for actually winning the war nowhere near as thoroughly as something exponentially larger?? You have to be a fool to hold these contradictory beliefs. Good God this is retarded.
>>543587069>jewish man tells Australian that there's no end to diversity, your country will be endlessly flooded with migrants until you cease to exist.>'For you history ends':https://goyimx.com/AlisterHarrow/status/2089002553853837754
>>543584415Holodomor took more lives than holocaust
>>543592042there were 6 million Palestinians right?
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The narrative has never changed.You just don't know anything about it. At all.Auschwitz-Birkenau: 3 main camps and 44 subcamps. 1 million victims. All crematoria were destroyed before the allies arrived in an attempt to hide the crime.Treblinka II: 925000 dead.Belzec: 435000 dead.Sobibor: 167000 dead.Chelmo: 152000 dead.Einsatzgruppen: 1.5 to 2 million dead.Ghettos, labour camps (Dachau, Mauthausen, Bergen-Belsen), starvation: 800000 to 1 million dead.The big retreat: as Germany began losing the war 100s of thousands of prisoners were forced to walk back to Germany or were shipped in open trains, leaving 200-250000 dead in the streets.After the war the Germans claimed they "didn't know" this happened. Everything was organised by Germany's industrial power houses though: Bayer, BASF, Sanofi, BMW, Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Siemens and Hugo Boss. The cunts over at BMW refused to admit they did it until 2014. IG Farben/Hoechst (today Bayer, BASF, Sanofi) kept all the Zyklon B files. The dumb fucks.
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