Anyone who regularly drives already knows this. I have to refill my car so much more often now it's insane.https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-feds-plan-to-start-diluting-gasoline-this-may-explainedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN_XGip1PjI
>>543587158Voted for it award
The good thing about gasoline shortages is there will be far less ZOGbot cops patrolling the streets.:D
>>543587158It's a version of coin clipping and currency debasement in a petrodollar economy.
>>543587158>We'll make gas cheaper>By diluting your gas with an expensive corn byproduct>That we'll make cheap at the pump>Through subsidies that cost you far more in both taxes and inflation.I'm tired of 'winning' bros.
>>543587638Giving money to oil and gas CEOs is based. Solar panels and electric cars are woke and trans. If you dont like it move to Russia.
Alcohol doesn't lube your engine as it runs. Gas does. It'll fuck up your engine over time shortening it's life.
>>543587158Imagine if some hooligans wanted gas prices to get worse by lighting gas stations on fire everywhere like its BLM
>>543587539Didn't think about it that way, if the cost of gas increases 100% openly then orange kike is cooked.
>>543587158So basically, you fucker are paying for fucking WATER!!HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Country of cucks, Trump is fucking you hard.
>>543587886Wut? Gasoline doen't "lube" your engine, retard, that's why you put oil in it, fucking dumbass. Unless it's diesel, that shit lubes.
>>543587933And the oil companies will make more money on selling additives. Pic rel is going to be in high demand.
>>543587886all part of the plan. cars like smartphones, upgrade every year or two or you're a poorfag
E15? So I guess they're upping ethanol content to 15%If you're driving a relatively new car you should be fine but you'll be getting less miles for the same amount of fuelIf you're driving an older car the engine may not be able to work with itConsult your manual
Its better to have a sudden collapse rather than slow>>543587914
>>543587416She's graduating
>>543588095Ill switch to cooking oil long before that, its 50% cheaper
>>543587158This is a Biden era thing. E15 was approved under Biden. Fuck trump and fuck miggers all day, but this e15 shit was done under Biden you lying faggot.
>>543590531Why doesn't he stop it then, retard? Oh right because Trump is a lying Zionist fucking faggot
>>543590531You can't tell me it hasn't gotten worse post-Strait of Hormuz closure though. I have to get gas now once a week whereas before it was once every two weeks and I'm driving the same amount every day in my commute.
>>543590601why does he need to stop it? Just don't fucking buy it. Most gas stations around me stopped selling it long ago because no one was fucking buying it.
>>543587158I've lost 30-40% mpg this year. I replace parts and fix things and it never goes back up. Also, I use a Bluetooth OBD reader and it stopped being able to calculate Ethanol percent. It shows all gas as 0% no matter what I pick and it used to be really accurate. I don't think it's E15, there is something else going on
>>543587158I brought this up in /pig/ like a month ago and got dogpiled by all kinds of Jewish feds telling me to "take my meds." Good that they let you know whenever you're over the target. This also destroys most gasoline engines in America. It is no coincidence that they're pricing everybody out of petrol and computer parts, which are the two things every faction needs to wage resistance against a government captured by Jewish pedophiles.
>>543587158yeah tough shit but we have to defeat Iran and my gasoline being a bit watered down is a price i am willing to pay to protect America from terrorists unlike you cowards
>>543591588I don't think it destroys most newer engines, as they were designed for a certain portion of ethanol to be used anyway. Going back to like 2005, I want to say?Keep in mind, ethanol has been a major fuel source in Brazil since the 1970s.
Wait are the libtards mad about this? They were all happy about gas prices going up because they wanted to force us into their dumb and gay electric cars. Now that it's an election year they're super duper pissed about high gas prices.I hate libtoids so much.
>>543587981The ethanol eats away at all the seals in the engine though, that part is definitely true.
>>543587638The ethanol subsidy issue alone prove that this country's political system is retarded beyond redemption and should be destroyed.
>>543592390>They were all happy about gas prices going up because they wanted to force us into their dumb and gay electric cars.Yeah, no. Zion Don killed the EV rebate, remember? So he made them increasingly unaffordable to the sections of the population for whom rising fuel costs would be more likely to affect. The clear purpose here is for him and others within the capitalist class who are invested in oil majors to extract more profit from captive consumers.
>>543592124Gas contains like 10-15% ethanol since it's safe but raising the volume will cause problems to injection system and pistons since it's corrosive and only special engines are designed to run on it
>>543587158not only are they ripping you off, but they also take the opportunity to destroy your car as well. time to by an ev, goy :^)
>>543592661The ethanol subsidy was in the works before the shale boom. As was the GM EV1 project. The PNGV program, etc.
>>543592673I have an old beater (1999) that I am definitely seeing worse mileage in. And now the engine is making a noise, so I'm not dismissing you.But I'm pretty sure newer engines, like 2005 on, are designed to take a higher % of ethanol than 15%. The other car (2007) is a flexfuel thing, I think it said e85 on it, so it can run even on that even though you can't buy that here.
>>543588095A drive a 2006 Mitsubishi eclipse. I paid it off 17 years ago. I have 400,000 miles on it and I don't want a car payment Will I be ok
>>543587886I think you're thinking of when they took lead out of fuel or just hallucinating or something. Ethanol doesn't do shit to the engine. Maybe over time, the rubber parts of the fuel system but nothing internal. With that said, it's still shit fuel and generates less energy per volume even with a higher octane rating. It's also less efficient at getting abos high.
>>543592830>I'm pretty sure newer engines, like 2005 on, are designed to take a higher % of ethanol than 15%.Can and should are two different things. At 15% ethanol you will get worse MPG and your engine will get a massive amount of carbon build up. Also the motor oil will deteriorated quicker. E15 is designed to kill your engine well before 100k miles.
>>543592830could they be doing something to diesel too? any mechanic fag can give their input on this?
>>543587539yep makes Biden and Obama look down right benevolent. Which they weren't. That's just how much worse it is now.
>>543592742Irrelevant
>>543593049>checks flag>said something retarded>yep it's the covidstralians>Ethanol absorbs water from the air easily, which can lead to rust in metal tanks or phase separation (where water and ethanol separate from the gasoline and pool at the bottom)>High concentrations of alcohol can degrade older rubber seals, plastic hoses, and specific metal components not built to handle it. Modern cars use resistant materials, but older or small-engine equipment (like lawnmowers) can suffer from cracked or swollen fuel lines>Global regions standardizing E20 state that vehicles manufactured prior to April 2023 are not officially calibrated or certified for 20% blends, though real-world testing shows minimal immediate damage.>Why is there a βwaiverβ? Normally, the EPA bans E15 from June to September because ethanol evaporates faster than gas. In the summer heat, that extra 5% of corn juice turns into smog-forming pollution faster than standard gas.It's shit for your engine and seals. Have fun getting a new head gasket to save Mister Goldberg 5 cents.Watching Australians turn into reddit niggers has been extremely black pilling.
>>543587158Remember how we were making fun of Indians last month for diluting their gasoline?
>>543587506Drones don't need diesel though.
>>543587158Ethanol is corrosive
>>543593776Planned obsolescence on steroids supreme. Ecoonomy goes brrrr.
we've always been watering it down with corn juice
>>543593640This is no time for self reflection. I'm worried about muh truck.
>>543593245well i know in europe you guys have emulsified diesel. i don't know how common it is, but that is literally water blended into diesel with additives to keep it emulsified. i think its more for older engines that don't have modern filter systems.
>>543593386i wouldn't say it is irrelevant. it explains why it seems like there is this contradictory approach to energy policy in the US. so that's why ethanol was started -- same as Brazil started their program after the oil embargo (and France did their nuclear, and we instituted CAFE standards).And so they created this corn ecosystem and don't really have any good ideas to change it up. Or vested interests don't want to expend the capital to change it up and just want the status quo. The end result is the same.
>>543593822Any chance you could sell it while you can and buy a Chinese EV?
>>543587842>move to RussiaGod i wish anything is better than this shithole
>>543593561Thank you chatgpt but none of the shit you mentioned is part of the engine and I already mentioned rubber fuel hoses. I'm sorry to hear about the head gasket on your lawnmower or whatever the fuck it is you're bitching about. I don't use ethanol as fuel btw.
>>543587158Good thing I have a stockpile of rec fuel for my mowers, and shitloads of bottles of stabil from when Biden did this shit last time.
>>543590818This>b-but the govt ought toThen it will, and you will have one less choice
>>543592663>hurr durr i'll just mindlessly repeat the same old communist gobbledegook every other retarded commie has parroted for a lifetime before i was even born that should workKill yourself, retard.
>>543593804Exhaust fumes are corrosive as well - and irritating, just ask your local Carioca about getting stuck in traffic in Rio's tunnels.
>>543587842>move to RussiaGreat idea irl
>>543593260i lived through covid and youre a vaccinated retard whos last "hard time" was when your boyfriend gave you a pink sock. any real anon knows covid was gayer than iran oil issues, consensus bot either human or silicon.
>>543594204There's really no other reason to end the EV rebate. As the sovereign issuer of the US dollar, the federal government can't run out of them. And as EVs engage in active demand destruction (you aren't buying petroleum fuels and they require less maintenance) they are intrinsically deflationary.
>>543587886I have a single cylinder motorcycle that hates ethanol I always have to go across town and get E0 or it wonβt start
>>543587158AND THE HOME OF THE PEDOS!
>>543594019It's illegal to own a nice vehicle in America. We can't buy any Chinese EV or import one. We can't have a Toyota Hilux. I remember my high school buddy in the long long ago pissed he couldn't ever get a skyline.Our choices are Ford, GM, and Hondas/Toyotas assembled badly by spics. But again no good models. Something cheap and reliable like the Kia Picanto? Nope. I'd say a solid 1/4 of vehicles are not allowed to be sold here. We can't even have light trucks thanks to Obama's gas mileage bull shit that Donny never repealed which is why ever truck is a giga nigger monstrosity.
>>543594019Hell no. I live in the plains so an EV would not be practical. Besides I love my truck and I can afford gas regardless.
>>543594641>pissed he couldn't ever get a skylineThey never made them in left hand drive anyway. In most states here you can't register a left hand drive car unless it's over 30 years old so that's how long cunts had to wait for a Corvette until recently when some specially shops started doing RHD conversions. I'd imagine it was much the same over in your neck of the woods.
>>543594225Most cars here a hybrid and people usually use ethanol because it's cheaper, specially now. Ethanol sub products are water and co2
>>543595359LolThere's no such thing as perfect combustion, specially with cheap/old/poorly maintained cars
It's diluted enough with E15. My crackpipe theory is it's not just about money but to destroy the engines of older cars with no globohomo electronics.
>>543587158Think about the reasons why you own a car. What are they?
>>543595359I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm saying it pollute less than gas and unlike oil we don't depend on other countries.
>>543595569that would make sense if they didn't have a completely separate pump handle, colored in blue with a big sign saying "E15" and warning signs about using it in older cars. A handful of gas stations near me started selling this stuff a few years ago and they all stopped because no one was buying it. This whole thread is just retards worrying about something pointless because no one who isn't retarded is "accidentally" putting E15 in their car.
>>543594375Why are you so one dimensional? Datacenters mean leccy is the new unobtanium.
>>543587158Why don't they just make the barrels smaller?Oil would drop below $50 if they used 20 gallon barrels.
The bots are getting verbose and they read like educated adults but all I have to do to stall a thread is post funny.
>>543587158Ethanol is so retarded
>>543595359>HybridsLolThat's not what hybrid meansLmaoAlso doesn't matter why
>>543587158I work from home, not my problem commuter wagie.
>>543594455I was wondering what would happen if it went above $10.Apparently they have to order new signs to cope.
>>543592904Post net worth
>>543595720We don't get the big signs or individual ethanol listing, just a little sticker saying "may contain up to 15% ethanol" on the pump itself. A major chain in my province is full on E15, and the rest are slated to go that way by 2030.
>>543594455wtf are the fractions at the end for? 9/10ths of 1c?
Drink ethanol; don't put it in your car.
>>543596193In Canada when we first went over $1 per litre they had a similar issue, but they just moved the decimal place over and stopped using fractions of a cent in the price (always remembering to round up, of course).
>>543595720They didn't "get rid" of the E15 they got rid of the E0 double nigger4chan and youtube comments need a betting system I could make so much $ off betting dum dums online.
>>543587539You are absolutely right.
>>543592904Yes
