If the USSR hadn't collapsed, there would be no war.
>>543595819Why USSR collapsed
>>543595819Correct and the US would not lose its mind from having no opponents.
>>543595884jews
>>543595884Because Gorby and boomers were infected with the Western/American mind virus. They thought becoming a heckin wholesomerino western democracy would solve their problems. How wrong they were.
>>543595819You do realize this is just Putin pandering to boomers?>>543595884Controlled demolition by the turbojew Andropov
>>543596024Guess who recruited, groomed and mentored Gorby?
>>543596101Most soviet boomers supported the collapse at the time. They now regret it.
>>543595819Worse than WW2? I don't think so.
>>543596024If your mighty empire collapses because of coca cola and pizza Hut then it deserves to die since no one needs such a weak shithole.
>>543596192WW2 was a good thing (for America) since it destroyed the old world and birthed a new one.
>>543596222You can't call them weak when they did this to you
>>543596188>Most soviet boomers supported the collapseI don't think that's true for Russians, and you can't prove it cause you pulled it out of you ass
The collapse of the USSR was actually a huge tragedy for the American people, because it made the affluent middle class no longer a necessary fiction.
>>543596159>>543596287It's true, you fucking retard. People like Yeltsin and Gorby were common at that time and wanted a western style democracy.
>>543595819>the collapse of the USSR was a catastrophe>not the tens of millions of people we murdered, who cares about thatThis is why everyone in Eastern Europe hates Russia.
>>54359628027m communist piggies dying for nothing award.
>>543596408He was a devout communist but unlike you tankie trannies he understood basic economics and knew the Soviet union was completely bankrupt with a not working industry.
>>543596280Noone in that photo is Russian. Not even the guy taking it.
>>543596632>>543596758>seething fat /uhg/ nigger troonlel. the USSR raped your ass twice. And Gorby was a naive fucking retard.
>>543595819Naah....Russians always innovate some excuses to attack their neighbours. Russia is like cancer ...it keep spreading if nothing stops it.
>>543597193Russia is an empire, they dont care about trivialities like race or nationality.
>>543595884Too gay to live.
>>543597458Slander against the Russian people is not an argument.
>>543595819you wouldn't last a day in soviet times retard man
>>543595819I'm sure communism is great when you're sitting in an office taking phone calls in East Germany.
>>543599101Only the first generation suffered larperThe rest up until the collapse had great standards of livingArguably better in some areas
>>543596280They were funded by muttgolem money.
why is the resting slav face always so ugly when it’s the man?
>>543597248They raped themselves. Slavs are only good as muscle in killing white men. Other than that they have no value. World would've been better off without them and a united Europe.
Putin says this stuff to appeal to his braindead soviet boomer fans.Russians only feel happy if Russia is 'big' They don't care if it's big while they've got a horrific oppressive government as long as that government keeps Russia big.The Russians who don't think that way have all fled the country or been killed decades ago. This is why even before the Ukraine war Russia was facing a massive demographic collapse because about 60% of young people said they plan to leave the country. There has been a constant loss of young people from Russia over the last few decades and you can't run a country without young people.
Maybe I multicultural empires never last long? Hint: Jews and Gorbachev.
>>543596280Stalin himself said that without the lend lease the Russians would have lost the war.
>>543595819HE SAW SLEEPY JOE UP THERE DODDERING AROUND AND THOUGHT 2022 WAS HIS CHANCEAMERICA LOOKED WEAK SO NOW HE WILL TAKE BACK HIS BITCHIT GOES BACK TO OBUMMER NOT KICKING HIS ASS WHEN HE LANDGRABBED CRIMEA IN 2014DEMOCRAPS ARE A DISASTER
>>543599736Retard forgot to nuke or dismantle america first. Why are slavs like this?
>>543595819
>>543599922based and checked, the only dictator willing to celebrate the birth of 4chan
>>543595884Because it was gay and retarded ideology that only retained itself through countless bloodshed.>>543596024bunkertranny cope
>>543599302it's always some mouth breather from a first world country who romanticizes soviet times. you niggers know nothing
>>543597248>t.
>>543600123It's either historylet retards or bunkertranny raidThat rusnigger on dominACKan VPN is prime example of bunkertroon raids. They infiltrate every thread that mentions their gay retarded ideology.
>>543596024Retarded. The country was doomed way before gorby. See "sausage trains" and "7 days to the river rhine". They were cooked by rampant corruption.
>>543595819That's a half quote. Therefore posted in bad faith. Thus diminishing my respect for NATO further.Tiresome.
>>543595819The leaders of the former Soviet state should have faced trials and a societal de-Sovietization. Letting party cronies continue to run rampant, turning into oligarchs, and further developing their already Moscow-centric worldview was the mistake. Now we have a people with a firm belief that the USSR was just, and all its former territories (and those of the Russian Empire) should still answer to Russian rule. The Soviets were a defeated enemy and should have been treated as such.
>>543597620I wasn't talking to you, nigger.
>>543600116>>543600192>>543600344Did a Russian soldier rape your mother, Churka?
>>543600123>>543600344If you compare random soviet working class to first world middle+ class as you are conditioned to do yes the west was way betterAs someone that has family from both the first world and soviets i can tell you faggots that it was mainly my grandmas generation that actually sufferedMy parent grew up without missing anythingHer fucking school and university and their amenities was x100 the budget of the school and university i went toYou are larpers if you think the soviet union was hell on earthIt simply got outcompeted due to multiple reasons i wont go into and decided to close shop
>>543595819if putin thinks its bad then it must have been good
>>543595884How dare you.
>>543596024So brave to be a Dominican and a whiny bitch baby at the same time.
>>543595884I think it all boiled down to the Jews needing new white(ish) fuckmeat for their parties, and nobody whores themselves out like the women of a broken country.
>>543600529You are stupid. The USSR has the world's foremost power during this time. It had already won the Vietnam war and the West was on the verge of collapse due to '68.
>>543600780They aren't honest posters, anon. They are butthurt troons who stand for nothing but hating Russia.
>>543601159I think you're conflating the height of Soviet military power with them actually, idk, making money.The west was rocking and rolling in '68, idk what you're fantising about, commie. So some media kikes spun Tet all backwards, that dosen't equate to the west collapsing kekFuggin tankies
>>543601338Hey boomer, do you even know how the Soviet system worked? It was a State planned economy that rejected Wall Street nonsense like GDP. The Soviet economy was based on tangible things like industry, land, production, etc.
>>543595884a russian finally got to be a leader
>>543597458they are african level hiv
>>543595884"They pretended to pay us so we pretended to work."People say jews and shit, no, it was the sheer retardation of communism.
>>543601807Yeah and that can't beat an economy based on fantasy, it's like fighting against cheaters
>>543601807And starving all your farmers, and jailing anyone who ate without authorization, and paying your neurosurgeons the same salary as your street sweepers thus killing any incentive for people to achieve anything.You know, brilliant shit like that.
>>543601807>It was a State planned economy that rejected Wall Street nonsense like GDP. Yeah and they latched onto something even worse. GDP is fucking retarded, but the goofy shit they were trying to do to measure economic progress was profoundly stupid.>The Soviet economy was based on tangible things like industry, land, production, etc. The Soviet 'economy' was based on a laughably corrupt state trying to make decisions surrounding those things without any kind of meaningful information and invariably leading to either a famine at worst and stagnation at best. It's always sad to see literal retards try to sing the praises of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was nothing more than a fucking joke, founded by a bunch of Jewish intellectual terrorists who got funding from prominent bankers (the same bankers they supposedly hated by the way) to punish and subjugate the native population, and when the slavs invariably took back control of the system they couldn't do much better. So the Soviet Union stagnated for decades, mounting dysfunction onto dysfunction and finally collapsed under the weight of its retardation. Even from the military perspective, it was just a joke. Someone once termed it 'the best enemy money could buy'. Dangerous enough to be a plausible threat, economically deficient enough to the point of never being a real danger.>>543602642>Supply and demand>Value>These are all abstract therefore they are fantasy This is like bitching about the fact that someone used mathematics to build a house and accusing him of cheating.
>>543595884It was brokeIt couldn't deliver all those perks for the working classIt was falling apart and the republics were asking for more autonomy
>>543595884amerijews and decades of espionage
>>543595884It was fake and gay
>>543596408>at that time>posts poll >20 years after the factHoly fucking brown IQ, when will I ever learn not to waste time discussing stuff with you subhumans?
>>543595884Look in the mirror