Came across this post on X, a new org with the sole goal of funding, researching, and organizing study into Earth's current and past changes. They've already recruited a few big names in this field. I've also come across other posts referring to the squatter man and The Adam & Eve story. On Twitter. With millions of views. Multiple posts.Are people so depressed and hopeless these days they're starting to believe in these fringe theories? Everyone knows man-made climate changes is bs but this is too much.>catastrophism.org/>x.com/catastrophismRA
>>543608481Shut the fuck up you brown jeet pseudo nigger animal filth cunt ass gutter water piss drinker
>>543608481didnt readit aligns with men giving rights to women innit?
>>543608634thanks for bump>>543608723on their data section they seem to focus on the Sun a lot. No clue why. Along with some other study of earthquakes and volcanism.
>>543608723>>543608936forgot pic related
I can't really tell what this is about but I suspect it's some kind of grand cycle wave theory thinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Year_of_the_JackpotLet me know if I'm totally off base
>>543608481awesome are we getting vida about tartaria
>>543608936womens rights is a common cause of collapse
>>543609053>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Year_of_the_Jackpotnah anon..this is something else
>>543609162Can you explain it then
>>543608481THE MICRONOVA IS COMING!
>>543609242Pic related is their publishing guidelines. Their mission is in this 9 page pdf. >https://catastrophism.org/docs/CRA_Methodology_Standards_v1.2.pdf
>>543608481>Ben Davidson>Ethical Skepticmake of it what you will
>>543609142i'd say it's a symptom>>543609492>Micronovasays on Google only certain stars not like our Sun do that. Either way confirming this would be a burden.
>>543609511This really doesn't help at allPretend you're explaining the core concept to a kid
>>543608481>Everyone knows man-made climate changes is bsTo be accurate, human-caused climate change is a conclusion supported by basically every bit of empirical evidence we have. It's not a fringe theory. It's actually happening.
>>543608481>I organically came across this post on X with sixteen retweetsBuy an ad nigger
>>543609791jewgle is lying, real quick rundown is like this:>Stars are externally powered and not internally as the mainstream claims>the most important factor in determining any given stars characteristics is the strength of the current density in Amperes per square meter (A/m2) measured at that star’s surface.>If a star’s incoming current density increases, the arc discharges on its surface (photospheric tufts) will get hotter, change color (away from red, toward blue), and get brighter.>The absolute brightness of a star, therefore, depends on two things: the strength of the current density impinging into its surface, and the star’s size (the star’s diameter).so basically:>Higher ambient plasma density>Higher inflowing current density at the heliopause>Larger total current collected by the star>Larger surface current density at the photosphere>Higher power outputRight now our Solar system is moving towards the Apex Cloud which raises the density, which ramps up the electric current, which directly boosts its luminosity and shifts its color toward bluewhite in the long term (for like 50k+ years).The process is exactly analogous to turning up the current in an arc lamp.also the galactic current sheet, think of it as a power bus. the sun is a load on that bus and the Apex Cloud is a region where the bus cross sectional area is larger and the conductor density higher, offering less resistance.when the Sun plugs into this part of the bus it draws more current and the voltage drop across its own internal double layer, it rearranges and collapses into an arc discharge aka Micronova.There is also a research paper about the Apex Cloud and in this paper ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0302037 ) they identified 17 stars which are "ahead" of our sun and interacting with the Apex Cloud and they are a window into our Suns future and its not looking good.tl;dr you need to understand the Electric Sun model and just combine this with the suns trajectory.
>>543608481Global flood coming
>>543609791womens rights causes more womens rights, its the engine of collapse
>>543609793>This really doesn't help at allokay, catastrophism.org is a new archive run by guys who debate Velikovsky, catastrophist geology, and ancient chronology. The reason their publishing/submission rules read like an autistic legal brief is because the site runners are trying to keep out Bible thumpers and low-effort schizoposts. If you want to post or archive stuff there, you can't just gesture vaguely at "ancient myths proving global floods." You have to cross-examine ancient texts, astronomical anomalies, and geological data with academic rigor even if your premise is mainstream. It's for people who want to debate planetary collision theories without turning the forum into an asylum.
>>543609799The paper they always cite claiming humans are behind climate change doesn't even posit that. It's from the 80s and was a study on emission data from different sectors.
>>543610320>Velikovsky, catastrophist geology, and ancient chronologyAgain pretend like you're explaining this to a kidI tried to understand it and you told me I was off base but I've gained nothing at all from you so far
>>543610320>I organically came across this post randomly>Here's a whole breakdown of what it is>Please engage with me saar is very good site saarBuy a fucking ad gurpreet
>>543609992>Stars are externally powered and not internally as the mainstream claimsMakes a lot more sense than a big ball of gas sustaining itself with "fusion".>which directly boosts its luminosity and shifts its color toward bluewhite in the long term (for like 50k+ years).The Sun was definitely more yellow when I was younger. Strange that more people don't point this out.>There is also a research paper about the Apex Cloud and in this paper ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0302037 ) they identified 17 stars which are "ahead" of our sun and interacting with the Apex Cloud and they are a window into our Suns future and its not looking good.yay more reading material thanks anon
>>543610997>Makes a lot more sense yes also explains all kinds of other stuff that the mainstream cant explain, like the accelerating solar wind (solar current actually), or the Suns Corona which is hotter than the surface of the sun.like in the internal fusion theory the Corona has no reason to exist.>Strange that more people don't point this out.people actually mention this all the time here.
>>543610546Idk if I can dumb it down for you any more than that. Maybe explaining things like that isn't my thing. It's a site that compiles data about and debates topics related to catastrophism. There's the mainstream gradualism which claims geological and astronomical processes happen over very long periods and catastrophism is the other side which claims those things happen suddenly and cyclically with huge change in short periods of time. >>543610729>>543609867you can leave the thread go watch ukrainians getting droned for no reason.
>Standard Membership is $10 per month and Premium Membership is $100 per month. Both are billed monthly. Membership is open.kek, or just browse /pol/ and I will tell you for FREE.
>>543611262>Maybe explaining things like that isn't my thing.Clearly. But as I hinted at earlier, I think that's almost certainly a weakness in your own understanding.You can try again but I'm not going to bother pressing you anymore because this doesn't look like it's getting us anywhere.
>>543611395count the site has publications you can read across a variety of topics. You didn't clarify which one I should explain to you. Furthermore the data section is literally just that, data. There no abstract or prose, just straight data. It's clearly meant for people already on the beaten path.>>543611373>pay to playit's where most things are headed due to bots and shill campaigns
>>543608481Buy an ad shill
>>543608481Grifters who aren't actually curious about any of this enough to get a degree in geology.
>>543610546Catastrophism is the antiquated understanding of Earths history that believes catastrophic events like biblical floods are the primary shapers of the geologic record. It's rejected by geologists in favor of uniformitarianism, which proposes that geologic formations are the result of normal processes persisting for long periods, and catastrophic events are rare exceptions.These are huckesters that want in on the alternate archeology grift. They never go to school to actually understand the field they're trying to grift in.
>>543611666>it's where most things are headednot me tho
Uniformitarianism and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>543612609>like biblical floodsactually the last big happening was the capture event when the saturnian system which earth was part of was captured by the current sun. this was ca. 7k years ago.the next happening is the upcoming Micronova of the current Sun in the next 2 decades.
>>543611803>dating rocks and dirtgeology is on par with psychology in terms of retarded hokum
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>>543609492Heh
>>543612781And nukes are fake, radioisotopes aren't real.
>>543612746>actually the last big happening was the capture event when the saturnian system which earth was part of was captured by the current sun. this was ca. 7k years ago.Not up to speed on timelines but is that when the Global Flood or Falling of Abzu happened according to catastrophists? There's an event that caused the ice age and another one that caused the flood. Sometimes they get mixed up.
>>543612929>assuming everything has always decayed at the same rate at which it presently decaysget a brain moran
>>543612804even if you put the mytho historical record of all kinds of ancients people from around the world aside (they all placed saturn as their top god and told storys of it flaring up, two suns etc.), saturn has several anomalies that are consistent with a more active star like past like for example saturn emits like 3x more energy than it receives from the Sun due to residual LENR transmutation in the core. also Saturns deuterium to hydrogen ratio is lower than jupiters which is unexpected if both formed from the same nebula. these are real, measured anomalies btw. also saturns rings and the water on earth have a very similar ratio of deuterium/hydrogen.also space is full with free floating dwarf stars like this.
>>543612934>There's an event that caused the ice age and another one that caused the flood. Sometimes they get mixed up.There's been hundreds of ice ages over the last ~33Ma. The cause is orbital forcing: periodic variations in Earths orbit that affect the amount of solar insolation the planet receives. Up until the last 1 Ma, ice ages came on a 40,000 year cycle lining up with variation in Earths axial tilt, then 1Ma it switched to a 100,000 year period matching the orbital eccentricity for reasons yet to be understood. Look up Milankovitch cycles for more information.
Haul up the jib because a blizzard of shit is coming.
>>543612934so basically earth is part of the saturnian system and probably formed out of saturn, the current sun is a high current density anode producing mostly light elements (H, He, C, O, Ne) while earths composition (O, Si, Fe, Mg, Ni, plus s-process and r-process elements) is very different.In the Electric Universe model a brown dwarf is also an anode in a galactic circuit but with much lower current density.this has important consequences for nucleosynthesis because a dwarf star is the ideal environment for building the heavy element inventory that Earth has.basically a dwarfstar undergoes an electrical instability, it ejects material from its surface (a "planetary fission" event, similar to a nova but less violent) then the ejected material cools and condenses into planets.once ejected from saturn it was tidal locked and they were all moving the same direction (herbig haro objects). for how long? nobody knows. then one day the saturnian sun began to flare up (humans already around at this point) and the current sun slowly came into view, the capture event process took about several decades or hundreds of years to fully complete.earth changed its orbit during this and the floods happened and the massive lightning strikes that created the sahara and the grand canyon happened.this was ca. 7k to 10k years ago (nobody really knows exactly how long ago).it also took a while for the earth to settle and calm down in its new location and some 400 or so years after the capture event the moon arrived.
it's the apocalypse unfolding now, are you blind?
>>543608936sudarshana is vishnu's chief weapon, it is a solar weapon. vishnu is the god who, as kalki, defeats evil in the world to end the kali yuga and begin a new golden age on earth, basically the apocalypse
>>543609053>>543609162I've read that. Heinlein is greatrelated story, btw:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inconstant_Moon#%22Inconstant_Moon%22>floodsthat's why the bible says to go to mountains in the end timesand also mentions the sun:25 In the day of great slaughter, when the towers fall, streams of water will flow on every high mountain and every lofty hill.26 The moon will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven full days, when the Lord binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted.Isaiah 30
>>543609492Every day it gets weirder and weirder. Soon people will understand.
>>543609791>The Sun could release flares 1000x greater than previously recordedhttp://www2.warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/the_sun_couldand here's an article from last week:>Earth Dodged a Trillion Hydrogen Bombs in 1947—but a Sun Superflare Could Unleash That Power Soonhttps://www.popularmechanics.com/space/solar-system/a73860013/superflare-great-sunspot
>>543614101>Look up Milankovitch cyclesback in 1983 the Milankovitch cycles were widely rejected because the theory is retarded but it did not take long for the theory to be resurrected as jews were running out of ideas.basically it is still a puzzle why a 0.1 % variation in Earths orbital eccentricity should be thought to give rise to such large effects as ice ages.the only conclusion is that the (((scientists))) are too stubborn to look for an alternative causative mechanism.
>>543609492CEO OF CATASTROPHISM
>>543613922Saturn doesn't have nearly enough mass to have ever been a star. If it was foreign to the solar system and recently captured by the sun, it wouldn't have such a tidy orbit with low inclination and eccentricity like everything else that coalesced when the solar system formed.And the presence of Saturn where it was is reflected in Earths geologic record. Saturn's gravitational influence on Earths orbit affect the periodicity of Milankovitch cycles and ice ages for the last 30 million years.
>>543614717>nearly enough mass to have ever been a star.thats not how stars actually work, Stars are balls of plasma.Their light comes from the phenomenon called "electrical arc discharge".So what actually determines a Stars location on the Hertzsprung Russell diagram is something entirely else, the HR diagram is a plot of actual observations, not something deduced from theory.Our Sun, being a fairly typical star, falls almost at the center of the diagram (at Luminosity = 1 and Absolute magnitude = 5, Spectral Class G, and (photospheric) temperature = 6000K).A major question is:>Why do stars tend to group themselves together in certain ways on this diagram?perhaps the most important factor in determining any given star’s characteristics is the strength of the current density in Amperes per square meter (A/m2) measured at that star’s surface.If a star’s incoming current density increases, the arc discharges on its surface (photospheric tufts) will get hotter, change color (away from red, toward blue), and get brighter.The absolute brightness of a star, therefore, depends on two things: the strength of the current density impinging into its surface, and the star’s size (the star’s diameter).Therefore, we add another scale to the horizontal axis of the HR diagram,>“Current Density at the Star’s Surface.”Consider moving from the lower right of the HR diagram toward the left.In so doing, we are moving in the direction of increasing current density measured at the surface of each star.The first region on the lower right of the diagram is where the current density has such a low value that the plasma surrounding the (anode) star is not driven into the normal glow mode of operation, let alone arc mode.
>>543614717also before the capture event the saturnian dwarf star used to be bigger but it got smaller when it entered the present suns heliosphere/double layer.plasma has basically 3 states, dark current mode (thats what saturn is now), glow mode (what saturn used to be) and arc mode (what the present sun does).dont expect the mainstream "science" jews to ever figure this out or admit to it.they are very invested in spreading false information about everything so basically forget everything you think to know about this topic. jews lied to you.
>>543614441people will continue coping, cant really blame them tho because the truth is brutal.
>>543614338Like that of other ancient nations, Hindu astronomy is inseparable from mythology.This particular mythology, however, continues to thrive as the basis of Hindu religion.In a way, it can therefore be said that, among the Hindus, planetary worship is practiced to this day and not only in an indirect way.Here I would like to remind you of that passage from the "Linga Purana" which admonishes that:>"the worship of the planets should be pursued by good men."Moreover, the reason behind this admonition is the warding-off of evil at times of planetary "harassment."in these modern times, not many practicing Hindus are even aware of these words, and few, if any, among them actually practice planetary worship, is besides the point.Like the gods of other nations, Vedic deities are known by more than one name or epithet as so, also, are the planets.Thus, one of the names for the Sun in Sanskrit is "Arka".But then we find that three related designations for the planet Saturn in the same language are "Arki"; "Arka-putra" and "Arkatanayah".Both "Arka-putra" and "Arkatanayah" translate as "son of the Sun."Arkaja, which means "sun-born" can also be applied to the planet Saturn as so, also, can "Arkanandana".So, once again, we find the planet Saturn bearing a name which is shared by the Sunalso strictly speaking, Brahma was not a Vedic deity. He more properly belongs to that corpus of Hindu lore known as Brahmanic mythology.He was proclaimed the first of the Devas, usually said to mean "gods," but which properly translates as "shining ones".Here it should be noted that the Sanskrit adjective "brahmanya" means "relating [or belonging] to Brahma.Brahmanyah, however, is yet another epithet of the planet Saturn.tl;dr Poojeets are also Saturn worshippers.
>>543614633Back in the 1960's plate tectonics was widely rejected. >why a 0.1 % variation in Earths orbital eccentricity It's the solar insolation that matters, and that varies by 25% when the effects of all the orbital parameters are combined. Solar insolation is the source of 99.9% of the surface/atmospheric heat on Earth. Milankovitch cycles perfectly explain the periodicity of ice ages.
>>543608634>>543608723>Noooooooo you dumb goy stop noticing these things!!!Shalom
>>543615551>plate tectonicsalso bullshit.the earth is actually expanding. thats why all continents fit perfectly together on a smaller sphere.>Milankovitch cycles perfectly explain the periodicity of ice ages.no they dont.
>>543608481The biblical Adam and Eve didn’t exist so yeah that’s believableNormies should be banned from the internet
>>543615809they are talking about this book, pic related.
>>543614924If you had any understanding of orbits the notion that Saturn was an interstellar body that was captured by the Sun, and ended up in its present orbit would be laughable to you. It just neatly slotted itself in right in the ecliptic, and got rid of all its eccentricity all without massively protruding the orbits of the rest of the planets! It's an act of god.
>>543615961>If you had any understandingI do>would be laughable its not.>It's an act of god.no its simple electromagnetic effects that cause this.also question, how many covid vaccines have you taken?are you ethnically indian or jewish?
>>543615740gr8b8m8You're basically a flat earther.
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anyone have catastrophism youtube vids worth listening to? i've listened to all of Ben's stuff up until early 2025, so i don't need anything introductory.
>>543608481ArchaiX has the best research and info on that. https://youtu.be/GwkqLv-fOjg?t=2209
>>543608481Flearth tier nonsense
