How do Holocaust deniers cope with Himmler's Posen speech? I'd expect them to just call it fake, because it's unassailable evidence, but most just insinuate it's mistranslated and Himmler was speaking metaphorically or about deportations which makes no sense.>inb4 ausrotten/AusrottungThey'll argue it meant "uprooting (Jews from power)" or that they changed the definition of the entire word in the German language, but this is stupid. It literally means to exterminate and not uproot which is entwurzeln and so do its equivalents in other Germanic languages like Dutch and Swedish and it was listed as extermination in centuries old German dictionaries like the Deutsches Wörterbuch. This is a moot point anyway since he explicitly says by "auszurotten" he means "umzubringen", which means only one thing and that is killing.>I did not consider myself entitled to exterminate (auszurotten) the men - that is, to kill (umzubringen) them or have them killed (umbringen zu lassen) - and allow the avengers in the form of children grow up for our sons and grandsonsBut that doesn't explain the rest of the speech. Himmler says a lot more on the topic which can be interpreted in one way, an ongoing extermination of Jews.>the need for secrecy just like the Night of the Long Knives>it will be a page of glory in German history never to be written>the audience will know what it's like to see hundreds of corpses lying side by side>they had the obligation and the moral right to "kill this people that wanted to kill us">the public wouldn't accept it because they all think they know one good Jew so it must be hidden>it's good that the Jews are gone now because it would hinder the war effort if they were still around
>>543612421Why do faggots who suck jew cock all start ops with anime pictures
>>543612421What group did the person belong to that admitted to poisoning wells before the black death?>JewishOh who could have guessed.
>>543612421If making a speech about exterminating the jews was proof of exterminating the jews, I would be making speeches about exterminating the jews every day. Too bad it's not.
>>543615038>yes your honour, that is my client bragging about killing the victim... but my client is innocent!
>>543615853Sure, except if there's no victim/body/murder, in which case there is no case, and the client is innocent, which is the case.
>>543615942There were plenty of bodies anon. Eyewitness testimony from the German inmates, the German guards, the POWs, the officers liberating the camps, and civilians involved in the use of the camps' slave labour. There's more than enough evidence but for you it's an emotional issue, and no amount of evidence will make any difference because you're too attached to this. I feel a little bad for you.
>>543612421How do Holocaust believers cope with the mega rollercoaster?
>>543616078Yeah, but no actual bodies or physical evidence though. Just stories and words, which is not proof and never will be. No one is ever going to believe your ridiculous fanfic again, sorry.
>>543616078Look, we arent saying it never happened, but six million?
>>543616157The truth is that jews were persecuted and mistreated during Hitlers reign in Germany, but there were no industrial murder factories. Lots of jews and other POWs died from starvation, disease and in some cases mass shootings. There were no gas chambers, they were delousing facilities. There were no industrial murder factories.
>>543616164>no actual bodies or physical evidenceOkay anon.>>543616210>six million?That's the estimate. The common misconception (among those who agree and those who disagree) is that this means six million people were gassed, or even six million died in the camps. Not everyone made it to the camps, it depended on whether it was practical to transport them for labour. Sometimes villages were simply liquidated. Then in the camps only a small fraction of the victims died in the gas chambers. The majority just got shot, got worked to death or fell ill.
>>543616390I don't understand why you would even want things to function the way you describe. If I gather 1000 Anons, we all get our story straight that a group of jews genocided 6 million white people, complete with proof of (actually real this time) photographs of jews discussing and portraying the disappearance and genocide of Europeans, and then demand infinite shekels as reparations as well as political immunity forever, would you accept it? I just have a feeling you won't. Why should we?And no, a collection of ~100 pairs of old shoes is not proof either. If it were, I can easily conjure that as well. The whole concept is completely retarded and embarrassing, just stop.
>>543616390>That's the estimateRight and when the estimate at Auschwitz is updated from 4 million to 1.5 million the entire estimate remained at six million.Lets be reasonable, see.>>543616323>The truth is that jews were persecuted and mistreated during Hitlers reign in Germany, but there were no industrial murder factories. Lots of jews and other POWs died from starvation, disease and in some cases mass shootings. There were no gas chambers, they were delousing facilities. There were no industrial murder factories.
>>543616164Okay so what do you propose these bodies are? Stage props? Some other mass grave site totally unrelated to WWII? Be real for a second.
>>543616524I have no idea what that picture is of and I could not care less. Here's a picture proving that a giant lizard destroyed Tokyo.
>>543612421For every breath himmler ever took, there's a high ranking leftist calling for whites to be killed or eradicated. And yet
>>543616570In other words, you have no clue. That's fine, I didn't really expect you to.
>>543616437>I don't understandThat much is clear. I would suggest you read more about it in actual history books instead of online, but I know you won't.>>543616446Somehow I suspect you already know that the 4 million figure for Auschwitz is a Soviet estimate. Western historians had very different estimates from Soviet historians all along and still do.
>>543616667How dare you deny the Godzillacaust? You know that this is illegal, right? You'll spend the rest of your days in prison for this.
Look, it's simple: Jews own Hollywood. We can just intuitively understand this. Same with most political lobbying groups. There are laws specifically DESIGNED around forcing people to believe in the myth. Can you imagine that? Imagine if I had a law that FORCED you to admit that Muhammad was the true prophet. Imagine if I had a law that FORCED you to admit Tyr and Odin were real.Of course the holocaust didn't happen, you fucking retard. Look around you. Look at how easily these fucking kikes just dogwalk you, knowing that you belong to them.
>>543616695Where is it illegal?
>>543616680>Somehow I suspect you already know that the 4 million figure for Auschwitz is a Soviet estimate.The entire Holocaust is a Soviet estimate. We didnt find a single death camp, not even one. The death camps themselves are "Soviet estimates".Again im not saying jews werent persecuted, mistreated and killed during Hitlers reign in Germany, I'm just saying there were no industrial murder factories, that's just Soviet war propaganda.It's time we move past it.
>>543616680I would suggest you use logic and common sense instead of relying on the indoctrination and propaganda forced upon you by an occupying force for information, but I know you won't. Jews have lied about literally everything else and have been deceiving people for thousands of years, why would they not lie about something that gives them unfathomable amounts of money and political power? Does it make any sense? I know you know it doesn't, you either know this and are in denial or you're jewish. Simple as.
>(((Soviet estimate)))Let's not forget that the jews murdered the Russian tsars, installed a Bolshevik regime, genocided the Russian people, and then created the Soviet Union. Their (((estimates))) are surely not biased or skewed in any favorable direction for jews.
>>543616850>We didnt find a single death camp, not even one.You people really just say whatever huh
>>543612489man... i wonder whats different from thise times and now, to prevent that from happening
#nukeisreal
The holocaust did not happen. It, objectively, did not happen. It has been disproven, and the only reason why we can't publicly recognize it is because of Isreal's grip on America.
>>543616992The US and allied forces only found concentration / POW camps. The only death camps were found by the soviets who we just took their word for.Look it up. People hate having a reasonable and nuanced discussion about this because you're left with the inevitable fact that>The truth is that jews were persecuted and mistreated during Hitlers reign in Germany, but there were no industrial murder factories. Lots of jews and other POWs died from starvation, disease and in some cases mass shootings. There were no gas chambers, they were delousing facilities. There were no industrial murder factories.
>>543616932>a spouseThis one cracked me up. I finally have something to thank the jews for, at least they're keeping me apart from the worst of humanity.
>>543616850>We didnt find a single death campThe difference between a "concentration camp" (where people die en masse) and a "death camp" (where people die en masse) was more of a political distinction than a technical one. It is true that there were many many more victims in the east, because of the Polish and the Soviets numbers of "untermensch" or whatever naturally, but also because France's poor record-keeping was an impediment to the SS.>I'm just saying there were no industrial murder factoriesI'm honestly not sure what else you can call it. In Germany, in Poland and some western territories of the Soviet Union (places Germany did not want to just openly liquidate villages) the people who were put on the trains were sometimes totally incapable. The Germans had no possible expectation of those people being useful for labour. Those ones especially were being sent there specifically to be murdered.>>543616858>logic and common senselmao anon do you realize how many people would have to be in on this conspiracy if what you say were true? we aren't just talking about bribing a few american and soviet officers here. the amount of eyewitness testimony is enormous. then there's the bodies and other physical evidence that you deny ever existed because the internet told you to do so. that brings us to an impasse. again I say, read my boy, actual books.
Why would a person who is telling the truth need to punish you for disagreeing?
>>543617083>The only death camps were found by the soviets who we just took their word for.The soviets found them first, but the Allies still went to check for themselves. There's no reason for them to take the USSR's word for it.
>>543617154>The difference between a "concentration camp" (where people die en masse) and a "death camp" (where people die en masse) was more of a political distinction than a technical oneSee how when pressed he has to concede that we found no death camps. Theres no evidence of industrial murder factories beyond soviet war propaganda.
>>543617237>but the Allies still went to check for themselves.How do you know that?
>>543617154>we aren't just talking about bribing a few american and soviet officers here. the amount of eyewitness testimony is enormous.Brb gathering 1 million people to sign a petition describing how you raped and murdered hundreds of people and therefore you need to be tortured for as long as possible as punishment. Since this is infallibly true according to your own terms, you should have no issue with this justice.You're literally completely retarded and incapable of basic logic.
>>543612421>how does the confirmed psychological operation have misinformation. they literally changed the definition of the word, i saw both versions. i forget dictionary but i think it was websters maybe. sephardic jewish family changes unroot to exterminate after the confirmed psyop continued after the war.
>>543617274Of course you know very well that saying the death camps and concentration camps both functioned as murder machines is the opposite of that. "Misunderstanding" on purpose is womanish of you, anon. I'm disappointed because you seemed to actually care about the truth. Oh well.
>>543612421A better question is how do holohoax believers cope with the fact that Jews 100% deserve to die?
>>543617280By the photographs they took?
>>543612421What Himmler said is irrelevant. The Holocaust never actually happened. A bunch of Jews were put into camps which is normal to do to potential enemies during war time. And many of them starved to death or died from typhus. But a systematic gassing and cremation of 6 million Jews never occurred.
>>543617420How do you know the photographs were real?
>>543617284That's an excellent point and very logical. I bow to your superior reasoning then. Good night.
>>543612421>unassailable evidence>some speechWhere are the 6 million bodies?Where are the ashes of 6 million people?Where is all the coke that it took to burn those bodies?Where are all the crematoriums that could burn that many bodies in 3 or 4 years?Why does the census show 12 million jews before the war, and then 12 million jews after the war?Never trust a jew. They are liars, and many other things as well. They are criminals who manipulate others.
>>543617422>systematic gassing and cremation of 6 million Jews never occurredanon, this is a very common mistake>The common misconception (among those who agree and those who disagree) is that this means six million people were gassed, or even six million died in the camps. Not everyone made it to the camps, it depended on whether it was practical to transport them for labour. Sometimes villages were simply liquidated. Then in the camps only a small fraction of the victims died in the gas chambers. The majority just got shot, got worked to death or fell ill.
>>543617435How do you propose they were falsified?
>>543616850>>543617154the whole thing was a bad psyop that doesnt hold up against the mildest scrutiny. it is truly the building 7 of ww2. the real question is, why areng jews relieved that less of them were killed? if . 271 M is worse than 6M is 15M better than 6M?
>>543617552Through strong-arming. If anyone proposed actual evidence they'll be threatened or killed.
>>543612421>Night of the Long KnivesKristalnacht.Now you're talking out of your jew ass. In the NIght of the Long Knives, Hitler was 200 miles away, attending an SS graduation ceremony for new officers. The jews took advantage of it, and dressed as Nazi's. They went around smashing the VERY EXPENSIVE plate glass windows of shops, knowing the Nazi's would have to pay for it all. They also called nazi police stations, saying they were high ranking nazi officers, and ordering the police to round up and beat jews. Some police believed it, but most saw through it and refused. One police squad even ran to the newest synagogue to protect it, knowing what the jews were trying to do. Hilter was absolutely FURIOUS when he came back and found out what had happened. NEVER trust a jew.
>>543615038If only it was that easy to exterminate the roaches!
>>543616078Found the jew.
>>543617643Not an answer. How were the photographs faked? Are the concentratiom camps we see just random buildings? Are the corpses actors?
>>543617728>How were the photographs faked? Are the concentratiom camps we see just random buildings? Are the corpses actors?Unironically yes. Again, we live in a world where it is literally a crime to think that. It is a literal - no exaggeration or hyperbole - thought crime. You will go to jail if you are suspected of thinking this. I am not going to believe the state-enforced narrative. Sorry.
>>543616210David Irving uncovered what believes is the real number, from official records. Around 270,000 PEOPLE, not jews alone, were killed in the camps. The camps were not death camps, but work camps where uniforms and other items were made by the workers. A lot of thieves, murderers, and other criminals were shipped to the camps, and a lot were executed there. Only a small percentage of the 270,000 who died were jews. And almost all of the 270,000 died from disease and starvation near the end of the war, when the allies blockaded Germany. They had the same fate as the rest of the German people.
>>543617822Being a contrarian isn't thinking for yourself anon. You're still just as easily manipulated, someone just has to use reverse psychology on you.
>>543617643Yes. "Dr. Death", who built the gas chamber for the American Government, went to the so called "Death Camps" to look for proof of the gas chambers. He found none. Israel tried to kill him for the next 20 years.
>>543617728>Are the concentratiom camps we see just random buildings?Stalin built some after the War, trying to embarrass the Germans. The rest are just literal camps, that housed workers.
>>543617728>Are the corpses actors?What corpses? Where are they? Where are the mountains of ashes?
>>543616078Show me the jewish population of the world before World War II and after it. It didn't even get a dent in it. Meanwhile 20 million Germans died.
>>543612421>words words wordsGas the bikes, racecar now.
>>543612421>memeflagdont use ryuko for your psyop
>>543617491>you goyim don't really belive that lie anymore but maybe you'll believe this one (but importantly im not really retracting that lie either and might back it up again later on)
>2026>still getting spammed with propaganda from 1945I don't care.
Didn't happenShould have happenedWhen it does happen traitors get it first and get it worst
>>543618175jewish population was 12 million. Population after the war was 12 million.
>>543618654>Should have happenedNever say Never.
>>543617933A guy went with ground penetrating radar in the 90s and found absolutely nothing so the Jews placed massive huge rocks all over the ground so now no one can use radar again kek
>>543612421>the Germans failed to hide their documentation for top secret nuclear, rocket, and Enigma programs, which all would have helped them win the war...but they used a much better method for ensuring not a single mass execution or kill order from the Holocaust survived, even though it involved millions of people in dozens of locations. The logistically massive event simply has no cold hard written proof for extermination programs by THE MOST AUTISTIC NATION ON EARTH.It's soooo fuckiiinnnggg stupid, you don't even realize how unrealistic the real world implications and comparisons are, you absolute idiot.
>>543617491Oh, yes. The nazi's did kill whole villages in the Sudetenland. Particularly the SS, led by Himmler. That has been verified by Hitler's butler and body guard, who says he had knowledge of it. But those were Enemy who had butchered the ethnic German's living in the region in horrible ways, hitting them with axes and torturing them. So, Himmler, in revenge, led troops into the area, and exterminated the people who had killed his people. Supposedly, he would sit in a chair, with a bottle of wine, and watch the people be shot in mass. I can't blame him. Kill my people, and I'll bloody well kill yours.
>>543612421How do holocaust "survivors" cope with the fact that not a single "survivor" account mentions the physical symptoms of cyanide death on any of the corpses?How do holocaust "survivors" cope with the fact that not a single "survivor" account mentions any of the symptoms from a non lethal dose of cyanide exhibited by any of the inmates who handled the bodies?
>>543616078>There were plenty of bodiesThat died how?Malnutrition?Typhus?
>>543619530>you absolute idiot.The jews and their lies have become so crazy, it's Hilarious! Hey juden, were not the same stupid people back in the 70's. We've uncovered Everything. Hitler was the Greatest Leader of the White Race that ever lived. And by keeping up your lies, you're putting targets on yourselves. No wonder everyone HATES you.
>>543612421Personally I find the notion that he would have given a speech like that totally fucking retarded and think the whole thing is a fabrication
>>543616078Dude, we know your a jew. Why not just show your true flag? And if you are Canadian, our forces need to take a good look at Canada.
>>543619748Himmler would have never given such a speech. He tried to hide after the war, by donning the uniform of an Army private. He was eventually captured, and then he "committed suicide". The Brits were especially vicious to the nazi's, and they didn't want Himmler giving any testimony at trial. Allied atrocities would have come up.
>>543617358>Of course you know very well that saying the death camps and concentration camps both functioned as murder machines is the opposite of thatThe distinction is that a concentration camp where lots of people die from starvation, disease and poor conditions is not an industrialised murder factory.There is a difference, as you noted I'm not arguing against the premise that jews were mistreated, persecuted and killed. I'm arguing against the Soviet war propaganda about industrial murder factories. You can pretend not to understand the difference between a camp where POWs died and a camp purpose-built to kill them but it shows you're not interested in the truth.
>>543612421Go back retarded tranime nigger >>>/a/
>>543617237You're mistaken. The photos in our textbooks show western camps, liberated by Allied soldiers. These lacked the crematoria necessary to dispose of all the people who died of disease and starvation near the end of the war, after our bombing campaigns made it impossible for the Germans to supply the camps. That's why those bodies are piled against fences. We took that as proof our propaganda was true, snapped pictures, and bulldozed all the bodies into mass graves.Investigators examined the camps and found they were actually labor camps. They weren't permitted to examine camps in Soviet occupied territory until much later, after the USSR had time to make adjustments to them. Why do you think death camps are only found east of the Berlin wall? It's a man made border that didn't exist during the war. A geographic oddity which is highly inconvenient for proponents of the holocaust narrative. It leaves them grasping at straws coming up with excuses for why death camps existed only in soviet occupied territory.The truth is the Germans recognized jews as a fifth column and interned them in labor camps so they could force them to work for Germany's victory, unlike in WWI when jews organized strikes/walkouts etc and crippled the war effort. The camps had leisure areas, maternity wards, currency, etc. Why bother with any of that if the goal was to kill them all? It's obvious the goal was to use them as laborers, thus the demand by Himmler to reduce deaths in the camps at all costs.The holocaust is war propaganda enshrined as historic truth through the use of show trials where people were tortured into confessing to impossible crimes. Our governments did it because they had just made Hitler out to be Satan so young men would go fight and die to defeat him. Telling everyone it was an economic preventative measure just wasn't an option. It's just a lie our governments used to outlaw the German government, kill their leaders, and justify all our atrocities.
>>543619748He was talking to the most fanatical nazis in the inner circle who absolutely wanted to kill the jews. He's saying a lot of very aggressive things, but he's talking them down and saying "we will root them out"....etc. as opposed to extermination. Notice how OP isn't posting the actual text.
>>543612421everything you say is wrong. Thats why you hide your flag.
>>543612421Either it didn't happen or the ungrateful bastards deserved it. Choose your own adventure.
>>543612421Unironically the eastern front was on some other shit and people in the west cannot comprehend it.I do not think there is any good documentation or source information as to what really happened between Berlin and Moscow between 1900 and 1950. Entire races of people could have been swallowed up, But the jews are not one such people. Additionally, I do not think people comprehend the scale of industrial war. Hundreds of bodies is the result of two water trucks getting tipped over in romania.
>>543612421>how do I cope withBecause I trust the German people to be efficient and trying to gas people with zyklon B is competing the with least efficient way to do it.Not a single fucking person ever mentions in their testimony what the obvious poisoning would look like, so obvious any layman or retard would comment about it, which leads even less credence to jewish bullshit.It's non-sense pushed by the original pity / sympathy Olympic contestants onto the young, precisely because they're the least likely and capable to discuss it so simply take it as fact.There's a reason why you get months of holocaust and WW2 but everything about the Holodomor, Weimar, and how WW1 ended with jews effectively stealing German leadership don't even get mentioned.
>>543616078Go ahead and present that evidence.
>>543619748Himmler was a cruel and stupid man. Constantly in way over his head. Rightfully hated by Göering as the idiot who would destroy the Nazi party.
>>543612421Pidorussians, who created the EOZ hoax and Nazism, don't care about the truth or facts, OP.
