Russian Su-57 at an air show in China. Impressive af.
Is this "supermaneuverability"
>gets rocked from bvr Stupid spinning tricks is just izzat farming
>>543652311It must be hard to fly like that with a raging erection
>>543652433Good thing the Su57 is armed with the longest ranged BVR missile on planet earth
>>543652311>>543652628Why doesn't the wunderwaffen work in Ukraine?
>>543652311Tell me what you want, but russian fighter jets a are a beuty. Their design is super slick, the cockpits look apealing. I only fly russian jets in sims when i can.
Heres the best Polish pilot in F-16 for comparison. Impressive too. xD
>>543652880All time fave? For me, it's the Zero. Thinking about getting into models, been doing research which brands, paint brands, tool/gadgets. But I also should probably go get laid.
>>543652311It mustn’t that impressive consider the Chinese didnt even bother buy it, meanwhile they would have loved to get their hands on a f35 or f22 no matter the price
Why aren't they using them in combat
>>543652311>Another russian glazing postWhy cant russians go to 2ch or something. This is an american website.
>>543652311>Russian Su-57 at an air show in China. Impressive af.
>>543652409Yes
>>543652311FUCK YEAH THRUST
>>543653059combat dangerous and su-57 expensive
that vertical loop was so tight, wtf
>>543653059>Why aren't they using them in combatThey dont want NATO shooting them down inside JewKraine
>>543653059why use a 5th gen fighter when hohols basically have nothing to combat them in the air
>>543653059Su-57s is being used during war from time to time. Its main successes are long-range kills. Using R-37M missiles with ranges up to 400 km, it reportedly shot down several Ukrainian fighters and a Saab 340 AEW&C aircraft. It also fires Kh-69 cruise missiles from 200-400 km behind the front lines, staying beyond air defense range.
>>543653158>americanIt's a Jewish website goy, we OWN you
>>543653391bite me starfaggots
>>543652311Looks like a drone made of paper
>>543652910>DO a burnout
Park it anywhere and a 2000 eurodollar drone will blow it up, stop living in the last century
>>543652910>tries to pull eject handle>AAAA BUTTERFING---
>>543653059the F-22 has been used to shoot down 1 (one) hot air balloon at a cost of $68 billion
>>543652311Indeed.
>>543653741>be usa>make f-22>sell a bunch to itsreal>cancel making them because uhhh because this other way less performant piece of shit needs to be made and we cant make both even though we totally could>Usa winds up with a handful left and itsreal has as many as they wanted
>>543652777They drop glide bombs everyday retard nafo troon
SU-57 is impressive, it's huge, almost as big as the B1 bomber. Can fly from Moscow to London and back without taking on fuel.Russian planes have always been kick ass, only Eglins and Boeing shills disagree.
>>543653638This lol.>builds a billion dollar stealth plane>woah it has antiradar coating n shieeet>parks it in the garage>a 500$ drone blows it up to piecesUnironically the next meta is how to build the cheapest drone, no one should care about anything else. Have capacity to make 100k explosive drones a month and you win.
>>543653985Su-34 tactical bombers are used for glide bombs. Su-57 is sometimes used for launching Kh-69 cruise missiles. On this vid you can see Kh-69 with cluster (cassette) warhead containing metal pellet submunitions dropped on Odesa. It retains the standard 310 kg payload weight.https://files.catbox.moe/ujj0bn.mp4
>>543652311I like Russian planes.I like American planes.I just like planes, they're neat.
>>543652311I call AI.
>>543654439The plane behaves like a scaled model.
>>543654439go back to africa
>>543652311RC model
>>543653059They do and they probably have more aerial kills than the F-22s and F-35s combined.
>>543652880>cockpits look apealing
>>543652777>Why doesn't the wunderwaffen work in ukraine?it does....they fly tag team missions on ukroids
>>543654522Go back to go fuck yourself.
>>543653059they run of of targets!
>>543653059>Why aren't they using them in combatthey are and they do
>>543654435I want my own autogyro to fly around in.
>>543654328NawSu 57 drop these glide bombs
>DO A BARREL ROLLHow will this help russia take Kyiv in two more weeks?
>>543654729Su-57s avoid Ukrainian airspace. They launch cruise missiles from Russian territory. Glide bomb sorties are flown by Su-34s, which are cheaper and more expendable.
how many built? like 12?
This retard spammer from Serbia farts in my thread again. xD
>>543654304Radio-controlled drones are an easy target for electronic warfare (EW) systems. Both sides actively use jammers.Most ordinary FPV drones are controlled via a radio link and have a range of 5–10 km, more rarely 15–20 km. This limits their use to the tactical zone.
>>543652777It does lmfao wake up tranny, life exists outside of discord.
>>543654727Paramotors also look fun as hell to fly around in.
>>543654911He's only here because Slovaks refuse to take him back
>>543652311It seems that it is a faulty airplane since it does a lot of erratic movements.
>>543654911>everyone took a huge steaming shit on my thread again xD>good think i can ignore everything and just keep larping
>>543652311this is scary to watch and insanely impressive if you know anything about planes at all
>>543652777Modern air combat is largely two nerds shooting missiles at each other from a billion miles away, forcing the opposition to abort whatever they were doing and turn around to evade. That was the goal. Making the guy fuck off instead of killing him.
>>543652628>Good thing the Su57 is armed with the longest ranged BVRi'd rather have 14 meteors on me typhoon.
>>543652311stealth advertisement for the new ace combat game??
>>543652777because all planes are basically obsolete if you have reasonable AA coverage. Outside of another launch platform for cruise missiles or ballistic missiles, not much point.
>>543652974>But I also should probably go get laid.why are you thinking of leaving the wizard's path? it's tempting but ultimately not worth it.
>>543655006Kellet auto gyro from 1934https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUVwHGpoasM&ra=m
>>543652433You are 1488% wrongTricks are proved to be superior to memetic stealth, they demonstrate what plane can do in combat against air defenceBelow you can see real footage with bomber su-34 against patriot battery, russian bomber wonLauncher was destroyed by su-35 that covered ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLkMTDMWJyw
>>543654729That's a nato bomb. You can see the fucking German markings on the plane and the uniform.
>>543653059because they can't make any in useful quantity and serves a meme role like the F-22
>>543653362Yeah, that wouldn't be fair.
>>543652910i'd say this is even harder to pull off
>>543653882>sell a bunch to itsrealyou've not sold any f-22s to anybody.
>>543652910how did he spot a clogged toilet from that far up?
>>543655161The beast mode configuration is a manufacturer concept and not an operational loadout. A typical operational heavy air-to-air fit is four to six Meteors. Su-57 can carry four to six R-37M too (six with external hardpoints). The R-37M outperforms the Meteor in range (300-400 km vs Meteors 200 km), speed: Mach 6 vs Mach 4+ and warhead (60 kg vs Meteors smaller warhead, ensuring greater lethality).
>>543653882Israel only has F-35. We never gave them or anybody else F-22. But in early Feb 2026 we flew a squadron of the F-22 to southern Israel for possible use in the Feb 28 iran war.They were ultimately not used and flown back to US in maybe April.Now we have flown a bunch more fighter jets back to that south Israel air base, but this time they look like f-35s, which are much more appropriate anyway.F-22 is like an air superiority/dogfight jet, and that doesn't really apply in this Iran War.
>>543652777Because it doesn't exist.At least not yet.
So why do they still struggle in ukraine? These things cant win against pigmen? Are russians just incomptetent?
>>543652311As a person with zero years of experience flying planes for a living, having never been inside a fighter jet, and lacking any basic understanding of how a fighter jet—let alone a basic plane—functions and can be piloted, that is pretty impressive.
>>543655377No, its because ukraine has no aviation left. the most utilized plane is su-34
>>543655319>Tricks are proved to be superior to memetic stealthare you retarded? any missile will outmaneuver you and being slower just means it comes at you faster.
>>543655507yes, because the 34 isn't a meme plane that has a use. same reason the US killed the F-22 and has F-35s for basically everything that isn't old (F-16, F-18, F-15s)
>>543652311Yet its just a launching pad for large rockets. Hmmm?
>>543655476>The R-37M outperforms the Meteor in rangeno-escape zonequantity
>>543654281F-16 has tampon dispenser standard, in every cockpit.
>>543652409i think that's maneouvrability at supersonic speeds
>>543655518Watch video, Bomber Outmaneuvered 3 patriot missilesVideo just provides illustration of real case >>543655319
>>543654954>Creamy capriceYour cope mappers get funnier by the day.
>>543655638the video doesn't show anything.
>>543655616kek why's the f-16 so teeeeeny tiny? if you took down the vertical stabilizer you could drive it UNDER that SU-30 lel
>>543655486pic rel is how it feels to be russian
>>543655476Russian missile has a big range but turns slow. Meteor pisses all over it.
>>543652910was that the ghost of auschwitz?
>>543652777su34 seems to be doing fine for bombing and shitposting.
>>543655690to avoid radars and missiles better you monkey
>>543655779I'm waiting for the video of that Su-27 pilot using a Garmin GPS device at this point. IDK why anyone would think Russia's joke of an airforce is worth "pumping up" with gay propaganda.
>>543655647You'd have preferred creamy butthole instead?
>>543655486The Russians won't fly their stealth plane over Ukraine, for the same exact reason that NATO won't either - every air defense radar records everything it sees to a hard drive and if there is a visual sighting of a stealth plane, even one totally invisible to the radar, they can simply plot its vector and rewind the I/Q recording from the SDR in the radar and start looking for clues, I'm sure these days AI can speed up the process tremendously.Not to mention the risk of a shootdown and the other side obtaining the stealth plane's wreck.My only question is, why do Eglins ask such stupid questions, ones which they would know the answers to if they had a basic high school education? Answer me, that's an order.
Send a swarm of 200x 100$ drones to take it out
>>543655345I was just looking at that. I got the pic from the Kiev though>https://kyivindependent.com/russian-media-production-to-begin-on-new-glide-bomb/
>>543655014He is piloting into the worst possible situations and envelopes for an airframe to be in and gets out with astonishing ease and unbelievably large margins for more error. >>543652311TY good thread, chills the whole vid
>>543655690>kek why's the f-16 so teeeeeny tiny?I think the idea was to make a cheaper/smaller alternative to the F-15.
>>543655852stealth also doesn't mean stealth to IR or optical either... see the Iran shootdown of the F-35 as an example of that. flying over is a risk.
>>543652311Amazing that it can even fly. Maybe its full of foreign components making it more reliable.
>>543655583Partially agree, f-22 was better concept than f-35 as for mesu-34 and f-15 have same roles, su-57 is just an upgrade of su-35, Its unclear if in future interceptor class like mig-31 will be merged with air superiority like class su-35 su-57Maybe next generation will be bigger and faster, nobody knows I think f-35 was picked to earn more money from defence contractssu-35, su-57 and mig -31 are not used simply because there are no targets for them
>>543652311My fucking face.
>>543655852ukraine doesnt have stealth planes you russian monkey and the rest isnt in direct war with you
>>543655889It's OK I guess. Only real issue with the F-16 is that huge air intake is so close to the ground that you need specially ultra-spic-and-span runways for it. They have little zambonis that sweep the runways for 'em. That's a design flaw.>>543655896Obviously, but the true mystery here is why do Eglins and NAFOs ask such stupid questions without thinking? Maybe they think /pol/ is stupid, but in fact it makes them look stupid. It's sad. I'm paying for all of this lel.Eglins aren't doing so hot now anyway. All this lying and being butt hurt on the Internet for a living is terrible for their morale lel.
>>543652311Damn boy that's some thrust.
>>543652311Just based trad patriotic Russians in hijabs watching the airshow.
>>543652777See any of your shit planes flying around there?
>>543655921>su-35, su-57 and mig -31 are not used simply because there are no targets for themhttps://defensefeeds.com/news/aerospace-news/f-16-fighter-jets-struggle/
>>543655756kek
>>543655486Anon you took 20 years to take fucking iraq, and most of the west helped you
>>543652777Trips of truth btfo all this zigger cope.
>>543655740R-37M uses a dual-pulse solid rocket, initial boost for range, second pulse near the target for terminal energy. High Mach 6+ speed and lofted trajectory help it retain enough energy for 8G maneuvers out to 220 km which is still more than Meteor (up to 170-180 km). Beyond 220 km the dual-pulse motors energy is largely spent, so high-G turns against agile fighters become limited. But AWACS and tankers are large, slow, and barely maneuver. Residual speed, big warhead and seeker still let the R-37M threaten them out to its full 300-400 km range.
>>543653059They are scared that the Ghost of Knibyieev is still haunting the sky
>>543652311i genuinely thought it was gonna fall that is craaazy
Aircraft design peaked in WWII
>>543656292>R-37M uses a dual-pulse solid rocket, initial boost for range, second pulse near the target for terminal energy. High Mach 6+ speed and lofted trajectory help it retain enough energy for 8G maneuvers out to 220 km which is still more than Meteor (up to 170-180 km). Beyond 220 km the dual-pulse motors energy is largely spent, so high-G turns against agile fighters become limited. But AWACS and tankers are large, slow, and barely maneuver. Residual speed, big warhead and seeker still let the R-37M threaten them out to its full 300-400 km range.
>>543655847da comrade
>>543655690It's light and agile, single seat. single engine. You can pump out shitloads of them.
>>543655756>was that the ghost of auschwitz?LMAO xD
>>543656153
>>543653985they drop them from 1000 miles away because getting closer would mean they get shot downit's literally just the launch vehicle and could also be a truck if glide bombs were compatible with trucks
>>543656590Trucks cant fly, tho xD
>>543656468Calm down there airman I was just having fun. I've played flight sims for decades, F-16's great for its role. Air intake's a problem unless everything's spic and span but other than that it's airworthy.
>>543656642
>>543652311kino
>>543652311[RAILGUN WARNING]
>>543656353yes
>the ugly mofos you'd never pick in ace combat
>>543656153>>543656569f-16s are not used in frontline, theironly purpose is to shoot drones in rare
>>543652311Dogfighting is super cool.Unfortunately it got replaced by gay as fuck long distance air-to-air rockets where planes "engage" well beyond visual range.
>>543656590The guided glide bombs have a 80km range
>>543656886wear your flag proudly memeflaggot>Wild Weasel is a code name given by the United States Air Force (USAF) to any aircraft equipped with anti-radiation missiles and used to suppress enemy air defenses by destroying their radar and surface-to-air missile (SAM) installations.[1][2] A Wild Weasel pilot baits an enemy into targeting their aircraft with their radars, then traces the radar emissions back to their source, allowing the Weasel or its teammates to precisely target it for destruction.>The Wild Weasel mission is now assigned to the F-16 Fighting Falcon, using the Block 50 and Block 52, with production beginning in 1991. The single-seat Block 50/52 F-16C is specifically tasked with this mission and aircraft modified for this mission are designated F-16CJ/DJ. The pilot now performs both the role of flying the airplane and targeting and employing against ground threats. Other aircraft, while capable of engaging anti-air emplacements, are typically tasked with other primary missions; the A-10 Thunderbolt II "Warthog", primarily tasked with CAS missions, lacks the avionics to perform a true SEAD mission and does not carry the AGM-88 HARM.[11] The F-15E Strike Eagle, possessing advanced air-to-ground avionics but also high speed and long range, is typically tasked with "deep strike" missions, which can include SAM installations but typically focuses on high-value targets such as enemy command & control, infrastructure and production, and likewise does not carry HARM.
>>543656886Russian long-range SAMs and a2a missiles force Ukrainian F-16s and Mirages to fly ultra-low, terrain-masking routes, navigating around heavy GPS jamming. They conserve scarce AIM-9 and AIM-120 a2a missiles, so pilots increasingly use internal 20mm cannons for point-defense against Geran drones. Close-range cannon engagements are risky. >More than half of Ukraines F-16s are already grounded due to maintenance delays at Belgiums Sabena Aerospace Engineering. Inspections can drag on for 40 weeks in Belgium. Under a $235.5 million US contract, this bottleneck is crippling Ukraines ability to intercept Russias jet-powered drones, with the entire F-16 fleet potentially exhausted by late 2026.https://www.wsj.com/opinion/ukraine-f-16-maintenance-delays-russia-sabena-engineering-85ca626a>Ukraine is seeking tens of thousands of 20-millimeter rounds for its F-16 fighters to shoot down Russian jet-powered drones, Bloomberg reported. Using the F-16’s onboard cannons could preserve scarce and far more expensive air-to-air missiles, with Kyiv potentially requiring about 10,000 rounds per day.https://www.kyivpost.com/post/85776
>>543653381>Its main successes are long-range kills.Proving you don't need cool fighters anymore: a Cessna 172 could have been just as effective.
>>543656124Is Sweden at war with Russia?
>>543652311Reminder he's a jewish pedophile spamming interracial garbage>Interracial stuff is god-tier: tiny little Russian pussy vs an army of muscular BBC niggers. Thats how porn should look in a default wayhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/535064885/#535080337>Whose women arent these days? Bulgarian ones? xD BBC is conquering the world. I cant even watch whiteskinned porn anymore, only interracial one turns me on. Last stuff i watched was Russian Miss Tourism Universe plowed by a gang of negroes in a brutal and farting DAP session. Highly recommended xDhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/525413142/#525426324>The only thing that connects me with Russia is its 18 yo pornstars starring in interracial porn. xDhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256061/#518261394>Adult negro making tiktoks with (pre)teen Polish girls. It always gets me. I mean i get a boner xDhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518221820/#518221820>I have Jewish roots, but i don't really consider myself Jewish, i declare Polish nationality because i was raised as a Pole. But i must admit that i like very young girls. I even think that 13 yo should be an age of consent. A guy fucking a 13 yo girl is not a pedophile though. Pedos are those who fuck toddlers or kids from kindergarten. A man who fucks 13 yo girl is absolute norm imo. Most girls have period at this age already.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/501717408/#501728429>Nope. I often fantasize about fucking very young teen girls, like fe 13 yo, and girls at my age in a group orgy, i am 35, btw.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/501717408/#501729225xD
>>543652311>>543657717>I am also very much into interracial porn. My fantasy is watching such Polish girls like vid-rel absolutely destroyed by big feral niggers who make monkey-like sounds during sex, in nastiest possible way with using DAP, TAP, humiliation, hard slapping, etc.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/501717408/#501730864>scrolling TikTok made mw realize that it is true. I mean niggers are being approached by Polish womenhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/497034963/#497034963>But why do i always get erection when i see Polish teen girls with brown/black foreigners?https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493526881/#493526881>Every kind of interracial porn is the best porn. Including interracial CP, i guess. There is nothing sexier than a combination of white-snow skin with coal-black skin.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493464709/#493487529>I am personally a fan of interracial porn. But desu i never talked to any girl about it. I think some girls might be just attracted to black guys. There is no rational explanation for it.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/491795056/#491801345xD
>>543656849Needs a >shadman
our tiny military has more 5th gen fighters than russia kek
>>543652777post ukr demographic trajectory
>>543657876Give some to Ukraine
>>543657717>>543657798he's pretending he is jewish pedophile because reality is much worsehe is an average russian state funded trollpic rel
>>543652311Did a great impersonation of getting shot down eh
>>543657945So right sisa
1/6th the price of an F-35 btw. muh free market, right?
>>543652311Looks great but after seeing a few air show crashes, I wouldn't go there
>>543655228So Iran has the smartest military on earth
>>543655456sold, gave, who's countingif you dont know kikes have 'em you're not paying attention
>>543652311A missile with vectored thrust could run that down like a hound. Also our plastic meme planes.
>>543657188You are so buttblasted lmao
>>543657876>>543657904BTW, Dutch F-35 fleet already has a combat experience. During a NATO response to a drone incursion over Bolanda on September 9-10, 2025, a Dutch F-35 fired an AIM-120 AMRAAM. The missile instead of hitting its intended target, landed on a house in Wyryki and destroyed its roof. Some debris made a hole in the nearby houses roof too. Thanks Dog Its warhead was defused by a self-destruct system preventing an explosion because otherwise Polacks would evaporate xDUkraine would certainly make much better use of these wonderful machines. They are invisible and stealth like Predator starships with cloaking system so Russians wont even see them. The Ghost of Kiev could perform daily bomb raids over Moscow and the war would be won xD
>>543658033ooga booga?i dont know about that russian monkey...
>>543658808because?any arguments?
>>543652409DUI
>>543652311wow a Polish Russian shill
>>543652628traitor
>>543658937lol
>>543653059Because this plane is for parades and shows. Look how happy the shill-lings are about it. It wasn't for nothing that my taxes—the highest in Europe—went toward this plane and the shill-lings. By the way, did I hear right that these record-high taxes are going to be raised even further?
>>543652311The trannie of figther JetsGen 4 jet larping as Gen 5
>>543652409Pls don't rub salt in the wound
f35 for comparison
>>543658460It's how they're unironically winning
>>543652311Almost feels like the pilot was slipping in and out of consciousness.
>>543652777Just yesterday a Ukrainian mig 29 was actually shot down
>>543656153Su-35 got shot down by an F-16 jej
>>543652311cool
>>543655479Excited for Iran to take more F35s out
>>543659399It was shot down with using R-37M missile i talked about:>>543656292The jet was dropping glide bombs on the battlefield and it is very risky, especially for Ukraine despite the fact that they make like 100x less sorties than Russians xDNormally when hohol jets fly between Polish border and Kiev, while hugging terrain and with turned off GPS, they are relatively safe, but getting too close to Russian border or battlefield might be lethal
>>543659091as expected you mindless russian ape
>>543659290It's operated by AI and the pilot was plastered with Vodka
>>543659622>It was shot down with using R-37M missile i talked about:>>543656292>The jet was dropping glide bombs on the battlefield and it is very risky, especially for Ukraine despite the fact that they make like 100x less sorties than Russians xD>Normally when hohol jets fly between Polish border and Kiev, while hugging terrain and with turned off GPS, they are relatively safe, but getting too close to Russian border or battlefield might be lethal
>>543652311Cool show, but does China even import Russian war or civilian planes? What about Russian cars? Anything?
>>543652311thought it was a trend at air shows to crash and die like poles and ukranians do.
>>543658033so he was the ukr pics troon lmao
>>543652311I am now convinced Muscovy is not a gay turd world shithole and is in fact very strong
>>543656849the slav line is the only line i havent unlocked so far on my second playthrough
>>543660163 China has its own vast fleet, it doesnt need Russian aircrafts.Multiple defense analyses (Military Watch Magazine, Meta-Defense) report that the PLAAF has equipped 18 air brigades with J-20s, typically 28 aircraft each, for a total of 504 fighters (plus 40-60 for training, pushing the overall fleet over 500).https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/china-j20-most-procured-fighter-service-500J-20 fleet is now larger than US F-22s (only 184 units) and roughly matches or exceeds USAF F-35As in raw numbers.Chinas J-20 production now far outpaces the US. "Dark factories" with heavy robotics and AI enable 120 J-20s/year (aiming higher), running near 24/7 with minimal labor. A fully domestic ecosystem plus unlimited rare earth access avoids US-style supply bottlenecks and global dependencies plaguing F-35 output (24 USAF/year recently).
>>543660702Footage from the dark factory producing J-20
>>543660702So what's the point of the air show if China is just making knock offs?
>>543660231any other larps to declare russian monkey?>On August 16, two Sukhoi Su-27 fighter jets from the Russian Knights collided in mid-air during a test flight southeast of Moscow, killing the leader of Knights, Igor Tkachenko. More people on the ground were injured after one of the planes crashed into a house and triggered a fire.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8qdYjggX8s
>>543660851show the footage of them taking taiwan using the fact *USrael* run out of all important missiles churka kinte
For me, it's the Su-37.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYcPtbl8W20
>>543660851And the USA factory will have niggers and beaners
>>543660851Why doesn't Xi send some Lend-Lease to Putin?USSR supported PRC for decades
>>543661433Russia doesnt need "lend lease" against such a weak opponent like NATO/EU and its banderist proxy. xD
>>543661532Russian citizens are dying every day in this war—soldiers and civilians alike.Every time Ukraine stikes Russia, at least one Russian citizen dies.Even one is too many.
>>543661532>Proceed to attack with the mighty Golf Cart devision
>>543652777>Why doesn't the wunderwaffen work in Ukraine?checkedtriggered a lot of righttards with savior/daddy issues with that post
>>543661679Thats normal that people die in wars. 80,000 Amerimutts die annually from fentanyl overdose and 250,000-400,000 a year due to medical errors and preventable mistakes xD
>>543660851Wow that's very impressive!
>>543657063>a 80kmESL VPNigger
>>543652311Wow it can actually do that thing from Top Gun II
>>543652311Pilot is getting after it!
>>543652777these missiles are only good if your target is an airliner so not very relevant there
>>54365718817 posts lol. I’ll give you a sympathy reply.
>>543656569He's still objectively correct.Russian fighters like Su-35 and Su-57 are not used simply because there are no targets for them.
>>543662011you can count but you cant refute me russian monkey
>>543652311they are just gonna sell the design to chinks
>>543662091russia is using su-35 all the time thothey are scared to use su-57
>>543662091Both Su-35 and Su-57 are being used in the Ukraine war, tho. Su-35 is used quite frequently for combat air patrols. Su-57 less frequently. I explained what the Su-57 is used for:>>543653381>>543654328>>543654865
>>543652777checkedbecause the objective of the war isnt to win, but to get as many white people killed as possible, with the secondary incentive being to print as much money as possiblea real war would be more like this
>>543662319Cope
>>543662286>how dare you say Russians aren't using their best fighters to shoot down our trash donations from NATO???
>>543654867Over 54.
>>543662626Please send them a dozen of F-35s and maybe a couple of B2s while at it. Please.
>>543661433>supported PRC for decadesLol, no.Some times in the past USSR wanted to drop a nuke on China even.And still to this day almost all Russians (from the major cities) believe they are Europeans anyways.
>>543662613You understand that Su-57 scored more air-to-air successful shot downs than F-22 and F-35 combined? xDF-22 had only 3 air-to-air kills (all balloons, no aircraft). F-35 only 1 air-to-air kill (a fucking Iranian prehistoric Yak-130, March 2026) xDMeanwhile Su-57 killed several jets and one AWACS (Saab 340).
>>543662828BTW, Yak-130 is a subsonic trainer. Two small non-afterburning turbofans give roughly 2,500 kgf each topping out near Mach 0.93. It lacks a powerful radar and modern EW suite. And Israelis boasted about shooting this bee down with fkn F-35 xD
>>543656353i feel like these could be mass produced for a few thousand dollars each and they could pretty much zerg any modern military. just put 100,000 pilots in the air after a 6 week training course, strap them with basic ordinance, say aim for that air base. its done.probably dont even need the pilots, could just do it remotely. either way itd be more effective and practical then spending 5 billion dollars for 1 jet, which i think we all know is just a jewish money laundering scheme.
>>543652311>Russian Su-57
>>543652311That's really cool. I'd imagine only a small percentage of people would be able to handle those insane g-forces.
>>543662808USSR sent a lot of aid to China during the Chinese Civil War, the Japanese invasion of China, and the Korean War, and continued providing aid until the Sino-Soviet split.
>>543661854Perhaps, less Russians and citizens of Russia would die if China send some lend-lease?
>>543662365lmao this pathetic /k/ike poster nigger webm is like some washed up fat loser re-playing his highschool football championship game over and over and over again, the precise moment he "peaked" forver, 40 fucking years ago
>>543663167uh oh stinky
>>543663295Dude, China does _not_ need to help Russia vs NATO/EU and its Ukrainian proxy. The West is bankrupt, deindustrialized and just run out of ammo. Russia will succesfully deal with Ukraine and other NATO countries (if needed) on its own. China doesnt need to help at all.
>>543662626pic rel russian monkeywhy dont you reply to this? >>543662319
>>543656292>hurrr durrrrrrrrrrr R37m cant attack fightersyet Russia has utterly ended any ability for ukraine to do anything in the air with anything period, and the ukroid airforce has been shotdown by them half a dozen times over, soon its gripens turnWEBM RELATED>no escape for nafoids
>>543663258if by "aid" you mean funding a communist revolution in a neighboring country and destabilizing the country in order to start a civil war and overthrow its government resulting in getting like 50 million people killed in the process, then sure buddy, "aid".help us help you kill yourselves, lol
>>543663432>do nothing>shit your pants
>>543662365>A real war would be more like destroying a functioning country that was no threat at all because jews told us to, then letting millions of refugees flee into EuropePlz kill yourself as soon as possible
>>543663432But citizens of Russia are dying.
>>543663516The first factories in China were build by Soviets.All the early things China made were based on Soviet designs
>>543663553im just pointing out the disparity between a war jews want to won, and a war jews dont want won. no need to tell people to kill themselves. that aint healthy. people who tell people to kill themselves are way more likely to kill themselves than the people theyre telling to kill themselves.
>>543663654thats why china was one of the poorest countries in the world by 1970 competing with bottom half of africa
>>543662626>how dare you say Russians aren't using their best fighters to shoot down our trash donations from NATO???imagine thinking its "trash donations"nato would absolutely 100% be running "air superiority" missions for ukraine if it even remotely thought its possible...which IT ISNT and they never could, even if they wanted to
>>543663846AFAIK, when commies won, China had zero factories.Afaik, first Chinese tank was made in 1950s.Another example >China's first domestically produced passenger car was the Dongfeng CA71, which rolled off the assembly line on May 12, 1958
>>543662828>it was all revealed in my dreamThe fuck are you talking aboutThe SU-57 (the plane with an bigger radar croasinf than an F-16) doesn't even habe an positive K/D ratio. It's funny to see you little nigglet to ramble about shit you that you have no idea about
>>543663451So then why do we see zero SEAD from the russian side?
>>543664040The Su-57 has zero confirmed air-to-air losses in combat, so its K/D ratio cannot be negative, you fkn idiot. Its frontal RCS is estimated at 0.1-1 m2, smaller than an F-16s typical 1-5 m2 signature.
>>543663207Don't they have special suits that just like squeeze the hell out you? I always wondered how that would work after a 6-pack of tacos from Taco Bell.
>>543663846>China's first domestically manufactured tractor was the Dongfanghong 54 (East is Red-54), a crawler tractor that rolled off the production line on July 20, 1958>China's first indigenous rocket launch was the T-7M sounding rocket on February 19, 19601940 ChinaZero factories. No car or plane production 1960 China.Car, plane and even rocked production.
>>543664003yeah most likelychina was a shithole passed from hands to hands last 1000 years
>>543652311>he did the top gun maverick move
>>543663342war in iraq was literally>president announces war>a few moments later>baghdad already in flames>war's already over>saddam statue brought down>spend the next 8 years finding pedophiles to put into positions of power to serve jewish interests while the local population intermittently kills the mercenaries for jewish bankers
>>543657510Retard where do you think Ukraine gets it's equipment from?
>>543658571Dude, they don't have them and don't really want them except maybe to sell whatever tech they can scrape to china. If they had one at any point in time they sold it to china.F22 is just plain too goddamn expensive to run and kikes really hate that.
>>543663432>The West is bankrupt, deindustrialized and just run out of ammo.The West lost thousands of planes, helicopters, and vehicles in Vietnam and survived.The EU manufactures around 10 million cars per year, as well as thousands of aircraft.Production is down because of high fuel prices and competition from China, but the industrial base still exists.
>>543652311Pretty sure jets can't do thisDid the timelines shift again?
>>5436641781 su-57 was shot down over moscow while having 0 confirmed kills so it cant have positive k/d ratioat best neutral if you consider shot down su-57 ground to air kill
>>543664416American education at its finestdid you forget the 20 year embargo/no fly zone/blockade after the war involving 1M western troops that destroyed their roads, utilities and hospitals?
>>543664644>1 su-57 was shot down over moscowlolwas it the ghost of kiev?
>>543664178>>543664644Soviet planes were always midThey were ok in Korea but terrible against Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alleyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rimon_20Soviet strength was always it's AA
>>543662698At this point we should just give Ukraine a few nuclear-tipped Tommyhawks. Make it a fair fight, you know?>>543663449Does a Robmanian get mad when he's called a gypsie? Nah. They laugh it off.Does an Analbanian get mad when they're called a sheep-fucker? Nah. They couldn't care less.Only Poland gets upset at being called "a nation of toilet cleaners" and that's because it's a sad truth =3
>>543664786nope russian air defence officialy
>>543652777They do, rarely, but su35 is already way more than enough for escort missions in the Hruckraine proxy war environment. Using su57 would be overkill, and needless loss of limited engine flight hourst before swap.For now MIC is busy producing them in large enough series. You should think of Su57 as f22, while su35 is f35/f15 aka main workhorse. Some would say what Russia needs cheap(low maintenance) singular engine jets too, like mig29/f16, true, they would serve some purpose, but su75(on technical base of su57 project) is only in development, UAC promises to make first flying su75 prototype until the end of this year.Su57 is a beautiful jet, and it's done with very limited russian budget and not first class private business tech company scene. Only imagine what could russian aryan chads make if they had american level of money and resources available to them.Ability to make jets is what defines whites and separates them from uncivilized nations.
Afaik, the last war, when Soviet planes clashed against American, was some Indian Pakistani war.But I don't remember much about it
>>543663991They are trash donations though. Those Abraaaps? Stripped of their best comm gear.These F-16s? Hand-me-downs.The only "good" gear that Ukrannies ever received were precision munitions (ShartShadow, Him/Hers, ATACUMS, etc), but in such limited quantities (because western stockpiles were never big to begin with) as to make no difference.>nato would absolutely 100% be running "air superiority" missions for ukraine if it even remotely thought its possible...which IT ISNT and they never could, even if they wanted toNah, because they don't want to get killed lmao
>>543664840its just your cope you russian monkeypic relbest you can do is drawing caricatures because you are the caricature in real life
>>543652910
>>543658571Israel has zero f-22s you fucking brown mongrel inbred. Turn off your VPN faggot
>>543664891May we see?
>>543664178>Its frontal RCS is estimated at 0.1-1 m2Good joke- no S shapes intakes- visibel Rivers, seams AND uneben panels and gaps- the meme IRST- bubbly canopyThis plane is a meme
>>543664654..because its irrelevant?the subject we were discussing was the distinction between a real jewish war and a fake jewish war, the aftermath is irrelevant to the fact that a war jews wanted won was over immediately. and this was on the other side of the world. not like with russia who has its entirely military already available to engage, but barely used it.theyre literally just playing 5vs5 counterstrike irl. fighting over villages that dont even qualify as villages because the population is only 12. spend 6 months fighting over volostoynikyiv, some dung heap in the middle of nowhere sending 5 white guys at a time to die in its meat grinder
>>543664786Technical failure.
>>543664955>we are slightly less poor!!!Not much of a flex retard
>>543664955Wait, your dunk is that Poland's median wealth is barely a step above Russia's, despite Russia having a much larger population and a much greater range of incomes?You think THAT's a dunk?lmaoI hope Russia rapes your country after cheap Ukrainian grain exports are done raping your farmers.
>>543665012The credibility of the Su-57s RCS being between 0.1 and 1 m2 is highly substantiated because it comes directly from Sukhois own official patent filings, which have been cross-verified by defense analysts and physical engineering realities. Unlike Western stealth aircraft specifications (such as the F-35 or F-22), which are strictly classified or estimated via public program targets, the Su-57s signature figures are anchored in legal and technical documentation
>>543652777Because its shit.
>>543652777delete this
>>>/wsg/6245348https://boards.4chan.org/wsg/thread/6240259#p6245348Why is there always a polenigger seething at aryan russian chads whenever Russia related discussion is brought up?>>>/wsg/6245348>>>/wsg/6245348It's all so tiresome.
>>543664955>>543665106These lists are garbage.My grandparents own a three-room flat valued at around €150,000. Ten years ago, it was worth about €70,000.Is this kind of real-estate inflation good? No. Youth homeownership in the EU is low.
>>543665246Rape this shithole too after you finish Ukrwanda off. I am sick and tired of these impotent barking subhumans just like you xD
>>543665147>highly substantiated because it comes directly from Sukhois own official patent filingsAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahWow, it will get even better:>which have been cross-verified by defense analysts and physical engineering realitiesMay i see it? Or was it revealed in your dream?
>>543652880You people had an industry until 1945
>>543664996ah sorry officialy it was accident just russian military bloggers mentioned AA grouphttps://t.me/romanov_92/54921
>>543665070webm rel dissapeared like 20 years ago or more here>>543665106> median wealth>despite Russia having a much larger population and a much greater range of incomes?mindless russian ape>>543665301nope they are pretty reliable to show the average(median) wealth in society even if you dont like it
>>543665351Top Western defense research institutes, aerospace publications, and military analysts including RUSI, Janes, and Aviation Week routinely evaluate the Su-57s frontal RCS as falling within the 0.1-1 m2 rangehttps://www.wionews.com/photos/ghost-jet-effect-can-enemy-radar-really-detect-the-su-57-fighter-jet-1780638318875
>>543652628these are probably the heat seeking missiles but when you only have 2 of them thats not so great. you need more.
>>543665667it isnt which is why you use it only for long range strikes churka kinteunlike burgers and kikes who kept flying f-35 over iran
>>543663654True. USSR shared with China lot's of technologies, including space and nuclear ones, FOR FREE, and helped them to set up industrial base by building factories and sharing technologies and templates. First chinese car was made in soviet made factory, same with aircraft and many other things.Too bad China never paid Russia back in Russia's diffucult hour in similar selfless manner. Retarded soviet charity was given to not worthy recipient.
>>543665667>Top Western defense research institutes, aerospace publications, and military analysts including RUSIYou shouldn't have skipped your special ed class...
>>543665969pic rel
Poleniggers don't even can make their own tanks, ships, not even saying aircrafts, why they even criticise White Man products like jets, while being niggers who can't make anything of the sort? The way they appeal to their barin, pimp and sugar daddy - Muttmerica is just funny.
>>543665969BTW, USraeli "stealth" is completely useless against real countries and all these shitty F-35s would be shot down like ducks in scenario of war with Russia. Russian counter-stealth relies on long-wavelength VHF/UHF radars. At these frequencies, the F-35s shape and radar-absorbent coatings stop working efficiently. The aircrafts airframe resonates with the radar wave, producing a strong return. Systems like Nebo-M, Resonans-NE and Niobium-SV detect such targets beyond 100 km. Nebo-M combines VHF, L-band and X-band radars for coarse detection. Resonans-NE can reportedly track stealth targets up to 1,000 km. Niobium-SV is optimized for stealth aircraft at ranges up to 500 km. Container is an over-the-horizon radar using shortwave bands, making stealth shaping nearly useless. These radars usually cannot guide missiles alone. They feed tracking data to S-400/S-500 fire-control radars. That networked cueing turns the F-35 into a trackable contact at long range. Please, give your F-35s to hohols and tell them to bomb smth in Russia xD
>>543652628I like how it exposed it's penis and tits but only putting 2 bombs and 2 rockets on such machine sounds retarded. it's like giving a cop 3 bullets during each shift.
>>543666191Say it with me
>>543666149Hey, poles have their own meme tankSo they are atleast on par with russia
>>543666191>BTW, USraeli "stealth" is completely useless against real countries and all these shitty F-35s would be shot down like ducks in scenario of war with Russia. you still didnt destroy their su-27 fleet you russian monkeyalmost 5 year of war and they still operate fucking su-27 which they cant get from nato countries
>>543666363soon...
>>543652311why dont we get missile shows?
>>543666608>Soon™>proceed to lose territory in donbabweAny day now
>>543652311Looks like a rc plane
>>543652409Supermaneuvering will get you super dead in combat, speed is life.
>>543666775poland doesnt own any territory in donbabwekorea even less
>>543666843Pssssst, don't spoil their cope
>>543653882we don't have f-22s retard
>>543666363Polacks cant build any tanks, they import them. But Russians are currently testing fully unmanned TShRK Shturm tanks.
>>543665012it's according to sukhoi patents and it's abysmally bad for a supposed 5th gen so it checks out it's as stealthy as an f/a-18
Brown people thread.Sage and hideManned fighter jets are a huge meme in the 21st century, especially those without stealth>b-but muh ebin acrobatics!you won’t be able to escape a decent AA missile by doing barrel rolls. Oh nooo, 4% of Russia’s military budget just got shot down :(((((
>>543652311if this is not IA , then that crazy maneuverability i doubt any other jet can even come close to this level of maneuverability
>>543654919Even on consumer hardware it is easy to build a drone with gps that you can assign a target to from a sattelite picture. Realistically you can build such quadcopters for less than 500 eur a piece with a few km flight range with a 1kg explosive payload or a 50km+ range if its a plane. Its pretty hard to jam satellite data especially if the flight trajectory carries the drone at a high altitude since you're jamming from the ground. Once above target, you can do a camera guided dive and that cannot be jammed. You might attack and disable a drone during flight but you're not stopping all when multiple are coming at you and at these costs, this is really inconsequential as far as military hardware prices are concerned > t. autist who built model planes and multicopters as a kid
>>543667314YOU ARE NOT POLISH YOU ARE A SEWER RAT THAT CRAWLED OVER THE BORDER FROM SOME BYDŁO FAMILY
>>543667314>But Russians are currently testing fully unmanned TShRK Shturm tanks.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletankhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine
>>543652777because the news don't show up in your nafoid tranny discord safe space faggot
>>543652311Very impressive (RC scale model) and totally pointless thread.
>>543666191>Russian counter-stealth relies on long-wavelength VHF/UHF radarsThat’s fair and all until you realize they still struggle to track fucking cessna planes
>>543667575source on it being used for any tactical purpose other than an overglorified kinzhal launcher, lobbing them2,000km behind the frontline?
>>543652628IM CUMMIIIIIING
>>543652433surely then you would call out the f47 design who will be more maneuverability rather then stealth ( having canards) and range focused compared to the Chinese j36 one who is full on max stealth max range, surely you will admit the superiority of the chink one according to your standards
>>543653764yk, running gag about the 'starfighter' was: how would you get hold of one? ..buy a property and wait. not taking sides here. bad planes happen. the good ones disappearing with 'greatest ally' is a worse fate.
>>543665667>bros look, it has "decent" stealth!(0.1-1m^2 top kek)>>543666191>bros look stealth is actually useless!
>>543667608Westoids should give F-35 to Ukraine. I am a great supporter of such decision and Russian MoD would be excited too. Time to burst the Westoid scammy "stealth" bubble xD
>>543667410>supposed 5th genWestoids called it 5th gen. Russians call it 4++ gen.
>>543668047lol
>>543668004>what is inverse square lawToo complicated concept for slavshit brain to comprehend.Either way there’s no need to give F-35, because the entirety of Russia’s military might is getting obliterated by $20 FPV drones
>>543668133Subhuman defenceless Westoids will be obliterated by cheap drones too when Russia finishes the Ukrainian proxy off. xD>NORTHCOM Deputy Commander Lt. Gen. Joseph Jarrard just warned the US is defenceless against a drone swarm attack on US soil:>"We dont have the sensors… [or] effectors to go after that problem. We cant detect drones and we cant shoot them down".https://files.catbox.moe/0i5mwc.mp4
>>543668047I TOLD YOU SO! >Gen LGBT+>>543659167
>>543668116Netanyahu repeatedly flew to Moscow to lobby Putin against supplying Syria with advanced S-300/S-400 air defenses, which threatened Israeli air operations. He also sought de-confliction to avoid clashes. If your shitty "stealth" jets werent a scam, he wouldnt need to humiliate himself so much xD
>>543668257>when Russia finishes the Ukrainian proxy off. xDSure, what year?
>>543652910Is the death of people funny to you?
>>543668271Nothing about it. Besides this 5th gen debate is absolutely useless because various countries can define it in different way. USrael jerks off to "stealth" and thats the main criteria, meanwhile Russia uses other criteria.
>>543668351This war has proven S-300/S-400 to be complete jokes. King kike was stupid for falling for literal propaganda.
>>543668351lmao syria had both and even before assad was overthrown israelis flew there with impunity same with iran
>>543668626You mean the Iran war proved all high end Westoid AD systems to be a joke? Just like today Houthis bombed Yanbu port again despite it being covered by entire AD power of the West xD
>>543668682You cant fly even over Iran with impunity, WTF? xD Israeli F-35s have limited combat radius (1,100-1,400 km with internal fuel) versus 1,600+ km to central Iran, requiring tankers or external tanks that increase detectability. Early 2024 strikes used standoff munitions from >100 miles away (per UK CDS Radakin), avoiding deep penetration. Irans Bavar-373 radars have locked F-35s from Iraqi airspace, and full-country overflight without prior SEAD remains high-risk due to layered defenses and geography.
>>543652311Quotes wow
>>543668987footage of the early strikes captured JDAMs retard what a stupid ass cope and in the more recent ones IAF even published A2A shoot down over teheran lmao
>>543668778Iran war is US having inadequate supply of missiles to strike targets and to protect their own bases from missile strikes. There was never really an issue with the fighters, because there aren’t many targets that can’t be struck by ships instead.
>>543669163No confirmed open-source evidence of Israeli F-35s dropping JDAMs on Iran; capable of internal carriage, but early strikes favored standoff munitions/SPICE from >100 miles, with free-fall bombs used later after massive SEAD by other jets and also in a very geographically limited way kek. If we talk about a2a, Yak-130 is a subsonic light trainer/attack jet, not a modern fighter, it is a low-threat target. Kill vs trainer offers very limited proof of peer superiority, analysts question deep penetration risks amid preferred standoff ops, suggesting PR amplification of F-35 narrative.
>>543668987>Early 2024 strikes used standoff munitions from >100 miles away (per UK CDS Radakin), avoiding deep penetration.Uhm yeah that’s the point? Convenientional AA systems can target planes beyond 100 miles, so the fact pissraeli f35s managed to do that is testament to the advantages of stealth
>>543669447Dude, we talk about fucking Iran here. Its air defences cant compare to Russian ones. All these Westoid hard-coping rumors about Iranians using high end Russian or Chinese AD systems were fkn lies. There was not even a _single_ S-300 system destroyed during Epstein Fury SEAD op. If Amerimutts destroyed some Russian or Chinese systems, they would boast about it
>>543669413thank you chatgpt unfortunately you're wrong also the point was where but you knew that
>>543669622You understand that USrael literally run out of stand off munition and interceptors during this war and now it would take like 5 years to replenish it? The combined amount of missiles and bombs USrael dropped on Iran is comparable to _monthly_ firepower of Russia vs Ukraine, but Russia doesnt run out of ammo. If ZOG is too weak to defeat Iran, why to fool naive Polacks or even dumber hohols that they can take on Russia? xD
>>543669896i accept your complete concession vanya
>>543652433>>543652409NEW THREAD >>543667421>>543667421>>543667421
>>543669933I am not Russian, you dumb kike. Layla tov xD
>>543669994нe нaдo мнe вpaть
>>543652409I know its just a movie. But maverick top gun you see this shit a lot. Honestly these kinds of movies reminds me of my days playing Planet Side 2 and dog fighting with the fighter jets. Fun game but prior to that, i never played a game with those kind of flight controls. Honestly hated that
