why is Argentina always in some kind of hyperinflation and bankruptcy when it's the whitest nation on the continent and has vast land and natural resources?
>>543661651Incompetent shitalians running the show
>>543661651most of their immigration were poorfag europeans, Argentina is the example what would have happened if communism won in spain or italy
>>543661651Its cursed by Incan shamans hiding in the Andes mountains
>>543661651They were LARPing so hard as Euros that they forgot they were South Americans.It's unfortunate. Incredible country, but the socialism and gibs got out of control
>>543662384Have you seen the kind of people that lived in Tierra del Fuego? The eurofags that stept in there and killed them straight up hexed the entire country forever, that place is the elephant foot from chernobyl spiritually wise until the tectonic plates have shifted so much that is entirely a different place. Just flee to Uruguay, it's basically the same people but the country is actually semi functional because a no cabal of vengeful giga schizo native spirits has axes to grind up there.
i know it, you know it, everyone knows it
>>543661651Niggertina is 98% brown, 1% white (tourists and expats), 1% yellow. Tbe average niggertinian is a beige skinned, flat faced mongrel with 60 IQ. They graduate school without knowing how to even read or write, ain't even a joke If Milei sold the country to the kiles and let them murder every browngentinian that would be unironically an improvement
>>543662978Yes niggertinians are subhumans
>>543661651years and years of socialism/peronegrismTurns out, doing gibs for decades is not good for the long run economy.
>>543661651We got jews... they want to take over argentina
Chronic low-trust society stretching back centuries leading to corruption and terrible policymaking. It can happen to any country tbf
>>543662277Niggertinians chimped out at Milei because he now allows foreigners to buy any land on the country (meaning rich westerners) but they have no problem with bolivians, paraguayans and other shitskins stealing land, squatting property and even reselling it lmaoThey're the cuckest people out there. Not a surprise they love getting fucked in the ass by paraguayan trannies
>>543663016>>543663045>the least obvious proxy macaco
>>543663164They're brown. Simple as
>>543663218argentina needs to deport millions and do land reform to create a rural middle class in the pampas. only south of the pampas should large land holding by single families/corporations be allowed for ranching
>>543663229Set foot here and you'll realize all I say is true. In fact niggertinians will make a queue to suck your dick because they love gargling on foreign semen. They're such a mentally and emotionally crippled people their insecurity runs deep to that point
>>543663218Yeah they're all a bunch of retarded communists. You need investors and corporations to bring in more jobs and money, but most of Argentina is still stuck in that old Italian and Spanish civil war mindset. These people still think they're fighting some holy war against capitalism and fascism.
>>543661651>when it's the whitest nation on the continent and has vast land and natural resources?Historically its due to a hedonistic threadmill.They are actually much wealthier today than they have ever been, but are down in the global rankings. They had food when europeans were starving, so they felt wealthy. By any physical metric they are better today than 100 years ago, except beef consumption since they replaced much of it with chicken.As to why they have failed to thrive MORE, plain capital flight and lack of foreign investment. They want out, no one believes in them and its a self fullfilling prophecy.They simply export their capital.They are simply pissed than italians and chinese have food now so they dont get to be #3 in some ranking
>>543663297The only people wanting to do a land reform is the left and to give the land to low IQ shitskins with 5 larvae by family unit who won't ever work the land because they're on par with South African niggersArgentina is failed state that should be invaded, massacred and ruled by a superior nation. Be them chinks, eurofaggots or whatever. Even gulf arabs would run this country better
>>543663262i think honestly argentina would be much richer and better if britain was successful in their invasion and stayed in power for like 50 yrs or so. Enough time to impose their governmental system but not enough time to erase the southern european base. Then with a British system, in the 1870s it would become its own dominion and still take in primarily Southern European immigration and maintain the Spanish dominance, albeit with significant British influence. Only thing is the dates get messy. The fundamental issue with Argentina is it's a country that received millions of European immigrants into a Spanish colonial system. The population and type of governance are a massive misfit.it's actually very complex
>>543662277>>543663446cállate un rato aweonao
>>543663360Was in Buenos Aires two years ago for a few monthsIt was unironically whiter than any other city I've been to in South America. If Argentina is 99% niggers, than the rest of south america is literally vanta black
>>543663262too many turros, bring tango back
>>543663629Niggertinians are all brown shitskins. Even the few white ones are brown minded and love getting analed by other spics. >Daughter got raped by bolivians? Wife was murdered by paraguayans? Thank God I'm not a racist, these people must be forgiven and given free houseUseless retarded crippled people
>>543663513Al menos lo admites, argentito.Te propongo una unión conosureña donde la aristocracia criolla chilena gobierna y ustedes se dedican a ganar medallas deportivas en nombre de la Gran República Conosureña. Eso y expulsamos a los piratas ingleses de las Malvinas y los judíos de la Patagonia. Todos ganamos.
>>543663643speak english spic, you are in an english imageboard, You don't gotta be some obnoxious fag who starts speaks le chilenoid everytime you spot your shithole flag in /pol/
>>543663629>it's actually very complexLACK OF FOREIGN INVESTMENT AND CAPITAL FLIGHT
>>543663646If you think Negros Aires is white I have bad news for you>>543663658Tango is mostly a tourist scam
>>543663629>it's actually very complexMhm indeed
543661651 (OP)> Whitest nation on the continent No, that’s Uruguay iirc. > Why is Argentina dysfunctional Because the white people with Argentine citizenship would rather spend their time and money in Uruguay, Spain, maybe Italy.It gets worse. Spanish immigration policy drains top people from Argentina, because Spanish immigration policy allows the Spanish government to pick the most white and most civilized Argentines for immigration.
>>543663881what about chamame? I know that shit is popular in patagonia
>>543663513the issue is its foundation. the foundation isn't correct. the best case scenario is very complex and seems hard to make it work. Best case actually seems to be if the homegrown land reform worked in the 1920's and British kept their economic influence, Argentina would be one of the richest country in the world.
>>543663848cállate un rato aweonaoojalá tener tu dirección e ir a ponerte unos balazos a ver si vienen los gringuitos a salvarte, indio y la conchetumare
Only whites on board, sorry, I don’t make the rules.
>>543663889>Uruguay >white>nationYou got bamboozled, my friendDon't worry, happens to the best of us
>>543661651its the SA country with more jews alsobrazil second
>>543664011Awww the little araucano is upset because he refuses to speak the official language of the board, you know kiddo? This is why nobody likes chilenoids, retards like you give us a really bad image. You're the reason why being a chilenoid is a shameful badge, because I have to share my nationality with retards like you.
Just look at the niggertinian "army". All starved flat faced brownshits, the camouflage is redundant, they're already brown and can hide in the toilet or the dirt
>>543663879No. You're a nigger and don't understand how shit works. For a proper Western settler society, the first thing you need is a large European land-owning rural/farming middle class. A more settled pampas would put let pressure into Buenos Aires. When the recession happed in the 20's, the people fled into the city because they were tenant workers and owned no land. If they owned land in the countryside, they would've stayed in the rural/farming areas. Having extremely imbalanced population weight in the city is very dangerous because masses of poor urban dwellers are the most radical group. We see this by how they created the radical politics of Argentina in our timeline. There was no large landowning middle class to hold down the stability of the country. Also a rural middle class spurs industrialization and development.Argentina looked as rich as the US or Western Europe in the 20's. But it was much more inequal.
>>543664170Now look at the army women, all bolivians Niggertinian army can be defeated by running over them with a tractor
Can we form an Anglo-Argentine alliance and we can roll the clock back 100 years and build a glorious Patagonianan Empire. You won't go poor and we can put the Jews on The Fal... I mean, Las Malvinas ;)
>>543664170yeah no shit, only brownoids would be that retarded to enlist in the army, white people in argentina are way too busy busting a nut with furry hentai on deviantart,
>>543664165cállate un rato aweonaoindio culiao patético, literalmente avergonzado de su propia nacionalidad y tiene que andarse humillando ante el gringordo y lamiendo sus botaslo más chistoso es que tu calaña de enfermitos en persona son todos unos amanerados con voz de pito, hediondos a söya, con tetas y no pasan del 1,70mojalá un día te topes con alguien como yo maraco traidor a tu propia nación, de verdad te mereces un par de balazos
im gonna go to argentina to bring a white wacha to breed her and send her back, what provincia should I go to?
>>543664195>For a proper Western settler society, the first thing you need is a large European land-owning rural/farming middle class. A more settled pampas would put let pressure into Buenos Aires. When the recession happed in the 20's, the people fled into the city because they were tenant workers and owned no land. If they owned land in the countryside,Lmao medieval land conflict shit. Because the only wealth in argentina is in mines and plantations.>>543664195>Argentina looked as rich as the US or Western Europe in the 20's.Pretty much what i said. Argentinians only care about their global rankings. Every time you speak with them they will say this. What they mean is once upon a time most europeans were very poor while argentina had plenty of beef, but now others have food and you dont get to feel superior.
>>543664170what the fuck is this guy's ethnic origin even? this is the first "human" i have seen that resembles another species
>>543664262yeah patagonia is basically just the pacific northwest of the us. eastern side is pure cold empty tundra and the west rains 24/7 nonstop, but at least you dont gotta deal with moose and bears lmao>>543664354I'm almost in my 30s, so I doubt it lol
>>543664404Los argentos "blancos" están casi todos en Buenos Aires. Ahora, seguramente eres algo marrón y bajito, no? Bueno, entonces no tengas muchas expectativas
>>543661651The issue with Argentina is they were poor as fuck, a declining subsistence Gaucho farming model with rapidly declining numbers of cattle, then Britain poured a shit load of money and engineering (and cattle) into the country, more than we even spent on Australia, and it became a 1st world country. That ended when Peron stole all of those British businesses and we moved out. So its now living off a 1st world reputation it lost in WW2.Now they deny their own history and their self-sabotage and then perversely try to imply the Falklands are the cause of their issues.
>>543664448He looks brazilian
>>543664262Our liberal (economic) masonic forefathers wanted that, in fact. A Spanish speaking anglo-celtic-German nation. Its explicit in our constitution and the writings of its creator, J. B. AlberdiNiggertina owes A LOT to British culture and immigration (trains, rugby, sports clubs, pubs, etc)The one against that, who wanted this country to be a brown socialist shithole is unironically the catholic church. And then peronism and the left, who go hand in hand with the church. Go to the slums, there's always a catholishit priest encouraging browns to have 5+ children.Catholicuck nationalists will get butthurt but it's the ultimate truth
>>543664448He looks like a low class chilenoid
>>543664407>Lmao medieval land conflict shit. Because the only wealth in argentina is in mines and plantations.You might think it's stupid but it's not. Your brain is poisoned by the idea that land is naturally a thing of barons and estancias. It's not. The pampas are some of the most fertile lands in the world. They would be perfect for homesteading and development of small towns and cities anchored by middle class farmers. Industry and railroads would follow both for the Pampas and for the city. The city would get rich, establish higher education, science, tech, etc.. Argentina would become a real developed country. It missed out on this. Today the Pampas are barren
>>543664502im all that plus rich, not argentinian rich lol, but lets leave it at corrupt rich
>>543661651They were extremely rich not long ago. That wealth created a class of parasites, who proceeded to leech on them for the next century. They are still in power, these parasites. We call them thieves.Argentinians call them public servants and pays for their retirement while sacrificing the young.Argentina is Europe, if Europe had not decided to become South Africa.
>>543664448Likely guarani(40%)-spaniard(2%)-excrement(48%) mestizo>>543664537This too
>>543664535Just to highlight their spite, most things in this image are British, including the ports/docks in the distance, and the train station, and the English Tower, a gift we gave them to commemorate 100 years of independence and now they removed our the name off it, and actually tried to bomb it during the Falklands War.
>>543664610Si eres marrón y con cara algo india, es posible que encuentres una argenta que tenga fetiche por los indios porque son algo más "exóticos" que los blancosEso es algo que ocurre con muchas argentinas, chilenas y hasta las españolas progres. Les parece llamativo el fenotipo de indio
>>543664404just avoid the northern provinces, they all look bolivian down there, Are you perhaps those white mexicans from Monterrey or Tijuana?
>>543664680>now they removed our the name offOnly peroniggers, leftist and catholishit nationalists (which is the same thing, the triangle of failure of niggertina) refuse to call it the English Tower, everybody with a brain calls it the real name
>>543664618>Argentina is Europe, if Europe had not decided to become South Africa.Argentina is actually a lighter version of UK. The wealth concentration of that shit was so high that, on 1900, 30% of british people lived in poverty, even though they had a transcontinental empire. Australia, New Zealand and South Africa were where they sent the poors so that a revolt wouldnt happen.
>>543664715no im not indian at all just regular mestizo looking
>>543664715jesus christ you are disgusting
>>543664797The main reason why I think argentina is not European yet is because it is not a high trust society and there are a bunch of scammers there. They need to learn how to behave like a first world country
>>543664585>The pampas are some of the most fertile lands in the world. They would be perfect for homesteading and development of small towns and cities anchored by middle class farmers.They already are, and would not be any more productive. Their land is already in use, it is simply not capable of generating enough wealth to support the desired living standards of current day, because crops and minerals are much cheaper today than 100 years ago, measured in gold or average income per hour.>>543664585>Industry and railroads would follow both for the PampasRailroads yes and already exist, someone has to take out the grain. Industry has no reason to exist in Argentina. It could still exist with high tariffs and capital controls, prices would be high and quality low, that might be acceptable compared to a total lack of industry.It doesnt happen anyway because capital keeps moving out. The govermment puts many capital controls, but the money still goes out.>>543664618>They were extremely rich not long ago.They are richer than ever, but feel poor because others are even wealthier.
The potential of what Argentina could've been vs what it is today is so fucking insane I don't think most of you understand. Argentina could've been much bigger and richer and a full on first world country separated from the rest of the latinx world's chimpouts. Today Argentina feels like any other latinx shithole, just with an unusually high European genetic contribution.
>>543661651cause the avg argie is a mega jew who wont spend a penny, so you gotta print the shit out of currency to have a semblance of economy.if you force dollars then they jew the resources for usd and send it all abroad. Not to mention the only way to have liquidity would be to take massive loans from foreign banks. Almost like we're doing right now
>>543665046O sea que los argentos son una raza inferior semi judía? Jajajaja
>>543661704>>543661651they arent white. theyre heavily mestizo putos. look up their soccer team. its like 13 mexican-looking homos, a passably white guy, and messi, whos also passably white (but married and had kids with a brown puta). argentina WAS mostly european like a hundred years ago, but like south africa, they admitted tons of nearby browns for labor, and whites became a minority. then even more browns poured in because argentina was still better than bolivia and their other puto lands. and then to make it even worse, argentina became socialist, since browns are obviously going to vote to take all the money from the few productive whites still remaining. and so for the last few generations its been a poor, flailing shithole. and guess what: its never going to get better. and if you invest in their bonds or companies, theyre just going to steal your money, like they did with ypf shareholders and with so many before that.
>>543664898lets be completely honest: theres no way any south american will ever learn how to behave. those who try are made fun of and either isolate themselves or go subhuman again
>>543664939That's what happens when white people try socialism instead of capitalism. Anyway the main reason Argentina feels more latinx these days is social media algorithms shoving latinx content down everyone's throat and reggaeton becoming the standard for everyone. They act like latinxs because they don't know how to consume non-latinx media, language gatekeeps them from normal content.
>>543664909You don't get it dude. It's not only about numbers on a piece of paper. It's about how developed the country's SOCIETY and INSTITUTIONS are.For example, on paper Saudi is rich. In reality, its civilization and institutions are brutally impoverished and backwards. At the top, Aramco makes the numbers on the spreadsheet look amazing. But the society is not at all developed or WEALTHY (which means more than only cash) and is a complete rentier state. None of the labor is even done by Saudis. All migrant labor. the local Saudi population is in fact a massive liability rather than an asset. When the oil stops flowing, the desert that makes up Saudi will go back to being sandniggers riding on camels. This is similar to Argentina. Argentina today is part of the undeveloped LATINX world. The big landowners make all the money and prop up the numbers. But the instituions and middle class are broken and poor. It's not STRUCTURALLY sound. This is because of POOR governance and an inability in the late 19th and early 20th Century to BUILD that STRUCTURE with its capable DEMOGRAPHIC DIVIDED immigrant European population. The land owning elites won out. Argentina is not much different from Saudis today. Both have local populations that exist as Liabilities to the top (Aramco and House of Saud for Saudis and the Landowners for Argentina.) Saudi's Oil is Argentina's beef and agriculture. The only difference is unlike Saudi, Argentina had the CHANCE to switch civilizations and instead become an overseas extension of the wealthy and institutionally developed European civilization. But it was unsuccessful in making that switch. It was close but they couldn't get it over the finish line.
>>543665213Funny enough I'd say Chile did it in a small way but we're going back again. At least we have the laws and the police get military training to avoid being corrupted, which works. The bad part is some of the population will take advantage of you if you're a good person. If you ever travel abroad you can see how trusting people are outside of this shithole, but yeah at least in my shithole the fucking police are not trying to scam you like in other shitholes.
Theres no reason for argentina to be an industrial country. It takes too much specialization.Look at germany, all they did and they are closing factories and turning into Birmingham or one of these has-been norf towns.Many of the stans countries in central asia thrived when the silk routed existed, when that was gone there was no reason for something new to replace it. Theres no law of economics that guarantees profitable investment opportunities fixated in a territory. People would rather leave.The best for argentina would be to stick to farming and mining, and to reduce their populaton to 15 million so that people can actually get jobs in mines and plantations.
>>543665376>This is similar to Argentina. Argentina today is part of the undeveloped LATINX world. The big landowners make all the money and prop up the numberswell, land reform can solve the income distribution issue, but theres still not enough for everyone to have good living standards. >>543665376>Both have local populations that exist as Liabilities to the topThey should reduce the population to 15 million, its enough to work in the extractive industries plus the associated industries like construction, schools, not everyone is going to be a miner.They dont have infinite land.
>>543661651A classic example of the left-wing approach is Argentina.After roughly 40 years of rapid economic growth in the 19th century, and also in the early 20th century, this country came to be regarded as the southern analogue of the United States. It was often even called “the United States of Argentina.” It was thought that there were the “United States of America” in the north, and the “United States of Argentina” in the south, and that these were the two poles of the Western Hemisphere, attracting people, capital, investment, technology, and ideas. This development along parallel tracks continued until the 1930s. Then what happened in Estonia last year happened in Argentina. New people came and said: “Right, that’s enough. We grew very fast, but our wages are too low; they need to be raised.” They engaged in populist, left-wing politics. They raised the minimum wage, added social security, and regulation. The economic growth rates, which had been 6–7% a year, fell. First to 3–4%, then to zero... The Argentine economy remained in this situation, with brief interruptions, for almost 70 years—until the beginning of the 21st century. Until the end of the 1950s, Argentina still managed to remain among the highly developed countries and to be richer than Spain, Portugal, even Italy. However, populism did its work, and Argentina slid down into the group of third-world countries. That is what the left does. Repeated attempts to break this trend, which has taken shape over the last three generations, have so far failed.
>>543665424>Chile did it in a small way but we're going back againthe internet made sure that no society will ever grow up. besides everything being influenced by the judeo-american dogs, some people, like you, are unfortunate to speak the exact same language as bolivian subhumans, for example. the tendency is that everyone will degenerate into being children who just want to buy cool stuff and get the most attention of everyone in the room
>>543661651Argentina is the first 4th world country.
>>543665730Niggertina is 99th world country
>>543665603>and Argentina slid downThey kept improving in real life, they slid in global rankings, which is all they care about.
>>543665794>Niggertina is 99th world countryOur demoralization campaign worked
>>543665600yex. this is something people don't talk about. Big Populations in the modern world, especially for vast resource rich countries like Australia Argentina and Canada, are increasingly becoming LIABILITIES rather than ASSETS. I think 15 million is too low. But ~32 million sounds about right for picrel
>>543665794You know someone is white if they loudly say how much they hate their shitholes. I never understood why some mexicans are proud to be mexicans and defends the most undefendable shit possible cuz muh mexican pride
>>543661651Because Peru is password
>>543666168Peru is so cute and valid
>>543665935egypt is another. They have some natural potential limited by the nile river, when they cram 100 million people for no reason they get a permanent trade dificit, permanent debt crisis and a social attitude that life is cheap
>>543664775>white mexican from Tijuana?My fucking sides
>>543666346one time I met a blondie from tijuana, so I thought tijuana people were white
>>543661651Italian and Spanish are white trash compared to germanics/nords
>>543666400this, without the EU, Spain and Italy would be like the balkans
>>543663164I just shit on meds but the truth is iberians and italians are still relatively high trust back in europe so it's the race mixing that ruined Argentina
>>543666400germany is turning into birmingham
>>543665818The issue is that Argentina was in the top 10 in 1913, and today it isn’t even in the top 50 by GDP per capita. This isn’t just a ranking—it’s the difference in wages, purchasing power, technology, and institutional quality. If you fall from 10th to 60th, you’re not “improving,” you’re losing the race. “Real life” is when people emigrate, not immigrate; when inflation is 200%, not 2%; when dollar wages are 3–4 times lower than in Spain, where Argentines went to wash dishes. So don’t give me that “they were improving” line.
>>543666453>so it's the race mixing that ruined ArgentinaThey are not ruined, they are wealthy but think they are poor because they only care about relative wealth, comparing themselves to others
>>543662384
>>543661651Subhuman argensimians are stuck in the 70's, they would call any radical left-wing leader of the world a fascist capitalist pig, they are to the left of Mao and Marx.Even the CCP embraced free market, meanwhile here you have politicians demanding a halt of all exports./pol/ really wants me to stop voting Milei because he likes jews or something, yeah sure bud, i'll vote for the economic shamanists instead, 1000% inflation in 4 years wasn't high enough.
>>543665818I would add that instead of integrating into world trade, Argentina spent decades trying to close its domestic market with high tariffs, which led to the creation of an uncompetitive industry.
>>543666491>The issue is that Argentina was in the top 10 in 1913, and today it isn’t even in the top 50 by GDP per capita. This isn’t just a ranking—it’s the difference in wages, purchasing power, technology, and institutional quality.So..literally what i said?They got 2X richer while others got 10X richer.
>>543666453It wasn't always like that. The advantage Spain and Italy have had the last few decades has been thanks to tourism, the EU, and how good Italy has been at creating luxury brands. But Italy has a huge problem with the mafia. Early Italians were spic tier during the early 1900s. Spain was a shithole full of civil wars and Franco put that shit in order. After the EU started taking care of them and tourism exploded in Spain they became more stable. But Mediterraneans in general are bad at generating wealth because they don't have the northern european protestant mentality >>543666579don't listen /pol/ all the time, this website is obsessed with everything that implies some support to Israel, reality is Milei is not the best guy but It is the most decent one, he is way better than Kast
>>543666623“2x richer while others got 10x richer” is not “improving in real life.” It’s falling behind in real life. You can’t dismiss rankings as vanity and then admit they reflect wages, purchasing power, and institutions. That’s not what you said
>>543666604>Argentina spent decades trying to close its domestic market with high tariffs, which led to the creation of an uncompetitive industry.They could simply accept that and live with inferior and expensive products.Not everyone can win in trade, if you cant make the best you settle for less
>>543666745wasn't there a trend of Russian pregnant woman to go to Argentina to give birth there so they could have Argentinian citizenship or something?
>>543663016Kek. Posts like this is why I come here. I will miss this kind of material when we get the digital id pozzed walled garden dystopia.
>>543666745>You can’t dismiss rankings as vanity and then admit they reflect wages, purchasing power, and institutions.They have more physical supply of goods than ever. Far more electricity, cars, appliances, same amount of food although not as good because they replaced beef with chicken.
>>543666486Obviously ethnic germans are causing that
>>543666379The thing is, it’s one of the busiest border crossings in the world, so you get people from all kinds of backgrounds and nationalities, from Americans who live there because the cost of living is cheaper and commute back to the US, to migrants who’ve gotten stranded while waiting to cross, like people from caravans that never made it or the more recent groups like Haitians moving there. So, while it used to be a low-cost manufacturing hub for U.S. companies, with American money flowing into the city, it’s also become a place where migrants wait to cross into the US.And I haven’t even brought the cartels into the equation.
>>543667061uhmmm yeah, I think it was around the late 2000s before all that mess, how was tijuana back then
>>543661651Argentina was one of the richest countries in Latin America and the world per capita from 1880s-1920s.Peronism, confiscating assets and foreign currencies such as USD assets, money printing to buy votes and fund failed import substitution, failed tariff policies, history of nationalization of not just utilities and transit (which can be justifiable if done competently) but of actual industry too, etc.People don’t want to invest money into an economy that for 100 years has constantly suffered from bad governance, policy, and is primarily an agricultural-export economy. It’s a shame because they make pretty decent wine especially for the price. They have decent quality beef (except for when the US gov suspends inspections). It is the whitest country in Latin America. Hopefully things go well for them.
>>543667166>Peronism, confiscating assets and foreign currencies such as USD assets, money printing to buy votes and fund failed import substitution, failed tariff policies, history of nationalization of not just utilities and transitthis is all due to overwhelming population dominance of poor urban drewllers as i explain here>>543664195>>543665376
>>543667166>Argentina was one of the richest countries in Latin America and the world per capita from 1880s-1920s.Again this meme. How is this always the first and often the only thing said about argentina.
>>543662277Not true. The European immigrants to Argentina were often from the wealthier more trade and industrially developed areas of Italy and Germany. The regions of Germany and Italy people immigrated from back in the day were the rich parts. Mainly from the Rhineland, Swabia, etc. in Italy they came from the North such as Piedmont, Genoa, Lombardy, Veneto. They had a larger share of northern Italians than southern Italians.
>>543667426>The regions of Germany and Italy people immigrated from back in the day were the rich parts.the richer parts were poor
>>543667481it's not about rich or poor in that moment. it's about institutional memory and skills. as can be seen by these regions in europe being very well-off today, the people had the capability
>>543661651>>543664195Agriculture isn’t a real way for a country to build wealth in isolation. It’s important and helps preserve tradition if done correctly like Europe does PDO products. It’s better when integrated with industrial development. This is where Argentina fails. Industry and trade can help counteract radicalism through unique set ups like Middelstand which are companies owned by families and are medium sized businesses that focus on niches and get really good at them. Not all industrial development causes worker agitation. Agriculture when mechanized doesn’t require as many people. It’s impossible for the agricultural sector when developed to absorb a large workforce when mechanized. Only certain fruits and stuff like wine requires more manual labor.
>>543667559>it's about institutional memory and skills.Became obsolete pretty fast, today the rich in argentina are farmers and miners. So much for skills.Skilled in what, carpentry, best salami?
>>543666929Is true for basically every country since 1913
>>543667764Venezuela has had a reduction in their capacity to generate electricity, like 30% reduction in megawatts, since their peak
>>543667145How further back? By the early 2000s, with NAFTA still in its early stages, US money, especially from Californias, as flowing into the border city, bringing investment and prosperity you could say, but NAFTA also fucked over small farmers nationally, pushing many to look for a better life across the border and commonly Tijuana was that waiting spot. So let's say the city was home to people migrating from other parts of Mexico, American investors, Mexican American families living on that side or this one just minutes from the border, and an area "popular" with the average American tourist. Nowadays it looks like a clusterfuck.
>>543667722You're wrong here in so many ways I don't even know where to start.
>>543661651>why is Argentina always in some kind of hyperinflation and bankruptcySocialists.
>>543667426nah man, the early waves did lean more northern (Piedmont, Lombardy, Veneto etc) but once the real mass migration hit after 1900 the southerners took over hard. Calabria, Sicily and Campania became the main sources. Overall for the big period it's roughly 41% north 47% south 12% center. Piedmont was still the single biggest region but the south as a whole outnumbered them.And calling them "wealthy industrial" is pure cope. Even the northern ones were mostly rural peasants and day laborers getting wrecked by agricultural crisis, not some Rhineland factory owners or rich Genoese traders. Germans were a small minority anyway and a lot of them were Volga Germans or regular farmers, not elite industrial types either. Argentina just got the classic working-class mass migration looking for wages and land.
>>543667949Oh okay, I was just trying to figurate why some mexicans looks more white than others and if le famous northern mexican sterotype was true or not. in any case during the late 2000s I think only richfags in mexico had access to the internet
>>543668023In the United States areas of the country with a higher density of family owned businesses tend to be more center right and Republican. The Politics of Small Business Owners (2025), a study from Cambridge, supports this. In Germany, the areas with more Middelstand are also more center right. These kind of businesses tend to be good for the economy while not actually radicalizing a bunch of people or inducing worker agitation because they actually develop the skills of their employees and are members of their own community. In the United States only about 1% of the population is involved in agriculture. The country became majority urban in the 1920 as industry was expanding and the agriculture was becoming mechanized. In Argentina they have 7% of their workforce in agriculture compared to the US at 1%. If agriculture actually ensured a less interventionist and Gibbs based economy, then Argentina would be more right wing economically than the US. What exactly did I say was wrong here: >>543667722
>>543668687>le famous northern mexican sterotypeThere’s some truth to that yes, I won’t lie, especially compared with the southern states. But plenty of other cities in the center of the country meet those same criteria. And being close to the border is both a blessing and a curse: it could bring opportunities, but it also attracts the worst kinds of people, i.e. cartels, black market, corruption, all of that without adding the leverage the US has in Mexico.So it’s no surprise that many of the most dangerous cities are in the north.>2000s I think only richfags in mexico had access to the internetOh yeah, that was definitiely true.
>>543669262>In the United States areas of the country with a higher density of family owned businesses tend to be more center right and Republicanexactly. but that whole ecosystem was built off small farmers and has since evolved.
>>543663218>>543663446>We must suck kike cock harderLmao beaners are pathetic.
>>543669911Small Family owned farms in the US died off in the 1970s and 1980s with the farm crisis: high interest rates, big food companies gaining power, expensive fuel fertilizer pesticides, the introduction of bigger tractors and processing equipment which required money to operate, collapsing agricultural commodity processing. So they needed to expand to remain competitive but couldn’t because there was no money.Add in the fact that family owned farms get split up in ownership everytime the owner dies and any heirs either have smaller plots of land or have to buy out the other heirs. Small Family Farms are a business where they have to buy inputs at retail prices, sell their products at wholesale prices, and pay shipping both ways.The US govs (Earl Butz) response was get big or get out. The banks, big business, and the government killed family farming in America. Now 86-87% of agriculture value is owned by big agricultural firms that get subsidies that were designed to go to small family owned farms.The only remaining family owned farms are in areas with rough topology and focus mainly on stuff like produce or meat (beef, chicken, and pork).
