https://youtu.be/WDwKfFV8eCU
not watching that shit
>>543667868was waiting for someone to post this. only got through 25 minutes. was severely disappointed by tucker.rees-mogg had much better points and was more articulate.
How did Tucker mog Mogg?His arguments did not make sense and he made a ton of errors (or knowingly lied). JRM corrected him thankfully.
>>543667927This. I was surprised to see how his comments did not say the same thing, but I guess they will just roll with whatever Tucker says if they're a fan
watching that shit rn
Unfortunately can't stand to watch this high pitched whiny faggot talk for more than 30 seconds. Someone give me the break down.
>>543667927>>543667938
>>543667868can you sum it up? I dont even want to ai summary the video
>>543667868Jacob Rees mogg supports the mohamedization of England YikesTucker loves mohamedism too yes but in their own countries, he doesn’t want it hereTucker for president
>>543668049See.>>543668036
>>543668049>supports the mohamedization of EnglandDoes he actually?
>>543668038tucker chimps out and makes us yankees look mentally inferior
JRM actually knows how to debate (even if he is a cocksucking weasel) so no doubt he makes this squealing man-child look like a retard.
>>543668106>>543668227See.>>543668036
>>543667927>>543667938>>543668019>>543668106>>543668227
>>543668502>>543668266>having a nuanced opinion is heckin' JewishI have severe goy fatigue
>>543668695>you see, supporting wars for jews is just (((nuanced))), fellow white people!
>>543667868Something about this guy's accent fills me with rage. My buddie if from Luton and sounds nothing like this want to ask him where in England people sound this way
Two "conservatives" who refuse to admit that white people are imperiled by other races have a debate
Kek I can't wait til the next election. Conservatives are going to vanish off the face of the earth, right?>>543668038>>543667913>>543668026So far it sounds like Rees Mogg has come on Tucker to argue that Russia is a failing state which is lashing out and is at war with the UK so the UK needs to get ready for war against it
>>543669306No, his argument is that countries should be prepared for war (not wanting to fight a war) because preparedness and military strength is a deterrent for war.
>>543667868Reminder that the british accent is fake.
>>543667927I have the opposite feeling. Mogg keeps cycling over the (((rules based order))), which is just a synonym to say 1945 upkeep, and anchors it as the absolute foundation of all of his arguments. He does not permit a revision as to whose rules are these supposed to be and he does not permit you to challenge it, just that it is to be taken as the undeniable moral absolute and fundamental axiom from where geopolitics springs out of. The Allies are allowed to dictate the borders of the rest of the world, freeze them, and then impose sanctions and military intervention for the sake of their upkeep and prevention of possible regional contestants.It's a very weak and flawed argument that can be easily destroyed by just point blank forcing him to spell it out like this and admit to the fact that he's trying to gatekeep the Axis or the Holy Alliance and that it has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine which he doesn't give a single fuck about. Tucker gets that he must challenge it, but does a little bit of a poor job because at the end of the day he is still arguing from the position of a citizen from one of these countries, and so his arguments can always be interpreted as an act of foreign lobbying, because why would you want to neutralize your own imperial interests? Why dismantle the Monroe doctrine when misery in Europe helps us be less miserable in our Allied safespace?This is why I am opposed to having people from these countries advocate for my well-being over here. It will never work because these places are full of empire shills who despise the entire world and only love their own empire. It's better to cut the crap and have each side recognize the other as its enemy.
>>543669557Conservatives would barely oppose the iran and russia wars if london wasn't 30% ethnically british and new york city 20% white american. These idiot politicians want to go to war for resources on the opposite side of the world while pretending we aren't being subjugated in our own streets by the "immigrants" they invited in.
>>543667927You're a moron with intellectual incontinence.The Posh cunt falls apart in the middle of the interview when Tuck finds his lane.Tuck fully unravels his midwit Neocon bestiality when he gets him to approve of indiscriminately massacring millions with nukes and claiming it's "morally just" warfare and doesn't contradict Christianity.
>>543667868tucker is unwatchable. i agree with his message but his affectations are cringe and unbearable to watch. i wish someone would make ai reproductions of his interviews removing his whiny faggot voice and the retarded facial expressions.
>>543667868lmao this was the most absurd horseshit to ever hear out of this british faggot /k/ike niggerliterally everything he says is the verbatim /k/ and /uhg/ script down to the very last point and wordjust listening to him is insufferableand the only thing you can do with faggots like this brit faggot is smash his skull into paste
>>543667868This shows that they are not only evil, but also as stupid as Kaja Kallas to the point that she may really be one of the smart ones
>>543670661Plus just after justifying nuking Japan the Brit says ww2 was a battle between good and evil.
tucker embarrased this literal /k/ /uhg/ brit nigger in the same way he dismantled ted cruzthe absolutely absurd, insane points the brit was making were objectively false out of handthe budapest memorandum was a non-legally binding simple resolution that stated ukraine had to give up nukes it didnt control if it wanted to participate in the global economy. its that simplethe fact this faggot conflates that to a suicide pact the world made on behalf of ukraine is ludicrousI truly hope this brit faggot gets run over by a bus, or literally stabbed or shot by a migrant nigger in the streets
Is he the son of the guy who wrote that gay "Sovereign Individual" book that Peter Thiel is obsessed with?
this is an interview where tucker argues with literally /k/ and literally /uhg/this is what its like talking to these absolutely delusional sociopathic retarded /k/ikeshis accent literally makes me want to see him beaten to death with a hammer
Five minutes in britfag says russia wants a war with the UK and they must prepare for it, and tuck asked why would russia want a war, and he escaped the question four times and can't explain why russia would want a war with the UK.
>>543671132That's a legitimate viewpoint. But they ultimate midwit unmasking was when he bought forth the cookie cutter "we would all be speaking German" .Tuck of course pounced on such a free opening and destroyed him with "who cares what language they speak if they are immigrants anyway"Lmao
>>543671304the brit niggers opinion is literally /uhg/ verbatimwhere somehow the uk is one of the most economically and militarily powerful countries on earth simply by virtue of "GDP" and Russia is weak, poor and stupid because "they just are"lmao, and he continues to argue Russia is militarily weaker than any european nation because "ukraine wasnt rolled up in a fortnite" when it absolutely was..lmao, then he argues that nato was absolutely justified to attack Russia in every concievable way and Russia should simply balkanize itself as a country if it doesnt want that to happen
>>543667868First he ought to apologise for the Judaisation of Britannia.
around 7min in he tries to say the UK is doing what the US pledged to do, fight russia, and tuck called him out on it saying no such pledge has ever been made.
this fucking insufferable brit nigger is literally arguing the budapest memorandum is the single most binding and historically important document of all time, and that by denying "ukraines its nukes" we somehow obligated the west to join a suicide pact with ukraine to make war with Russia a fundamental necessity of all western nationshis entire argument is that the budapest memorandum is a binding treaty
I just finished the interview, I thought it was pretty good. Tucker is messy at first part but overall it was enjoyable.The crux of the argument that falls apart is Tucker just doesn't give much credence to the "deterrence" argument and Mogg doesn't super want to get into the cost of war argument. That said Mogg doesn't understand, aside from the interview, while the deterrence may be valid that Zoomers and younger are upset with their own state government to the point of hatred and does not wish to be the "cost" for a government that has failed them, even if the strategy MAY keep them out of harm.
>>543671424The US couldn't take Iraq after 20 years. I thought it was a silly argument to make.
>>543671499>Well we have this treaty that says we need to defend Ukraine>It doesn't say we need to defend Ukraine>Right and I never said that it did, anyway going back to this treaty which says we have to defend Ukraine>It doesn't say we need to defend Ukraine>Right, I never said that it did. You're not listening to me im talking about the treaty that says we have to defend Ukraine.>It doesn't say we need to defend Ukraine>Right, I never said that it did, you seem yo be devoid of nuance.
>>543667868Tucker shown up to be the moron he is, a CIA entrant failure who tried to follow in his dad's footsteps but couldn't even get past the entrance exam. Op as per usual doing a typical bait, interesting of course as it shows Tucker to be an even bigger moron than he already showed.
>>543671682See.>>543668036
>>543671644the brit nigger was arguing over and over and over that somehow the west "screwed" the nuclear superpower "the ukraine" into giving up its massive nuclear arsenal, and as a result of this screwing, the west has a suicidal obligation to wage war on Russia untill there is simply "no Russia" to avenge this foolish decision to disarm ukraine
you have to post a quote or two they say, preferably about the jews.Am i expected to sit through a tucker debate without knowing if he made any good points?
>>543671424His every utterance was the circular "we must uphold the sovereignty of nation states" for for one hour straight.It was very gracious of Tuck to only counter with the native cost of such faulty reasoning and not the absolute, utter hypocrisy in the face of total historical inadequacy such as the Invasion/Bombing of Yugoslavia , Cannibalistic Recognition of Bosnia , the Bombing of Lybia, resulting permanent failed state.Basically Gog-Magog says the Britain in the morally just Policeman of the world , and Tuck doesn't mention once that it's the most aggressive state in world history and to this day hols de-facto colonies.
>>543671464The Edict of Expulsion has never been overturned by a reigning monarch and therefore remains in effect.
12m in, britfag is talking about how in iraq 1 we defended a nation state and for the world order to exist we need to defend nation states. they speak of iraq 2 : electric boogaloo and didn't mention it was to protect israel from WMDs.
>>543671696>kikesTucker is literally a controlled opposition kike lover. He is the CIA's retard in media, he got his new orders when Trump got into power and so they needed an idiot to run the Candace Owens type of garbage. Candace Ovens is a Democrat but also controlled opposition in that she works both sides. A reminder, all e-celebs are there for a reason and yes every one that engages in politics.
>>543668038Tucker: but you no but you russia no but you err no but how about youMogg: nnnno I'm not britain shall no ermmmmm noooooooo is no
>>543668924Luton is the least white place in england, you need a new friend.
ive literally never wanted to see a human being smashed into fucking goo than this brit niggerthis is the most insufferable, arrogant, demented and fucking ignorant human alive, and everything he thinks and believes is a moral abomination
>>543671796>it's the most aggressive state in world history and to this day hols de-facto colonies.An Englishman, a Canadian, a New Zealander, an American and an Australian are talking together at a bar and the Englishman turns to the other four and says "Russia is trying to take over the world!" The other four erupt in laughter and slap each other on the back. "No you guys im serious" replies the Englishman, "They are going to take Ukraine as a colony and then continue on conquering the world!" The howling laughter of the other four only increases. "Whats so funny?" Thought the Englishman.
>>543667868he was getting mogged there during the Hittler back and forth. The whole debate is drenched in "we wuz">German>Spanish>Latin>puling at the ethnonatinalist stringsits a parasitic string at that. >then come the love/care comments about Latin mass. Anyways....hope I can help with your problems over there.
>>543671865See.>>543668036
>>543671809>>543672007I don't think defending H-tler is what you want to be doing, Nazi chud.
>>543671503Deterrence isn't an argument. It's a mantra cited by Neocon Elitists.It's is an it's very core a demonic deception in that it at heart omits your own initiatory hostile actions and frames a just response to it as aggression that warrants immediate Military Buildup, leading to further escalation and at the cost of natives.And that over fucking Oblasts or Belgium.- which was ultimately Tuckers point. Because some Posh Cunt thinks UK is still an Empire that decides who ought to rule what part of their former land anywhere on the world.
15m in, Tuck:It's hard to know how powerful the russian military is, but it's real easy to know how powerful the british military is, which is not at all.
>>543672053>>543672053Nazi chuds are a menace. We would all be das Sprechen, excuse me, speaking German today if it were not for the brave allied powers.
>>543672170>Nazi chuds are a menace. We would all be das Sprechen, excuse me, speaking German today if it were not for the brave allied powers.
>>543672013Good one. It's amazing how utterly deluded these posh cunts are.
>>543668038>can you sum it up? I dont even want to ai summary the videobrit nigger:>"britain" (the good guys) have the moral authority, superiority and obligation to annihilate Russia (the bad weak poor and 'guilty' nation) down to the last woman and child no matter how many people it kills, how brutally it does that, and through whatever demented logic it chooses because of the budapest memorandum resolution. also, the uk is far far stronger, in both economy and military than Russia ever has been or will be, and in fact the uk's greatest strength is actually its weakness's, just like ukraineTucker: >"how could you possibly believe something like this?"
>>543667868>Fucks given meter reads zero.Debates are pointless, especially against any left nigger faggot.The only way to reason with a commie/leftist or other assorted faggot is literally to shoot them in the face. They're lost to leftism and will lie cheat and steal for it.
>>543667938>and then one day Russia just starting hating us for no reason at allOh why do they hate you Jacob>they're just bad people, they hate us for a freedoms and they want to rule the worldHe knew exactly what Tucker was getting at and he went to the ends of the earth to avoid mentioning any of the things you did to provoke Russia.
>>543667868Internet debates are a waste of time.
>>543668924He has what’s referred to as a Received Pronunciation accent, sometimes referred to as “cut glass”. It’s not necessarily regionally specific so much as it is class specific.
>>543672007>this is the most insufferable, arrogant, demented and fucking ignorant human aliveother than pootin, and tucker as his sock puppet.
>>543672305>things you did to provoke Russiathe skirt was too short, wasn't it?
>>543671194Mogg>ERRMMMM *Ukraine Indepevne, nooks, and there we are right to attack Russia- (giving them out missiles, training and provide targeting teams)*>Tuck: The Memorandum isn't a Military-Pact, you're not obliged to fight Russia and therefore drag your population into it>ERRMMMM we ARE RIGGHT, Russia is attacking us , hybrid threats>do you see a connection with, why they are doing >ERRMMMM WE ARE GOOD, AND THEY ARE BAD. IT SIN OUR INTEREST TO ENSURE SOVEREIGN NATION STATES AND DEFEND UKRAINE>Tuck: okay but what about your own sovereignty>Mogg: polician yapp about how they made mistakes and immigration ought to be curved (it's already too late)Weak performance for Mogg, everyone whoe claims otherwise is a 76 IQ retard easily impressed by trained, fake British upper class accent, pitch and tonality and conflates it with substance.
18 min in: britfag saying russia would never have invaded if ukraine had nukes, tuck says we didnt want ukraine to have nukes because it's an incredible corrupt country and they would have sold nukes to every bad actor
>russia is richer than uk>inherent wealthlmao. don't much like mogg but the difference between an oxbridge graduate and some tv retard is staggering.
>>543672677It's the other way around. Its Western Pedophiles, here well exemplified by a inbred, delusional British aristocrat, dragging at Russia's skirt until it turned around at round-hosue kicked them in the face.
>>543672680Its funny now how British cities are 20% English their politicians are finally ready to talk about "maybe reducing immigration slightly sometime in the near future."
>>543672055I don't think it's wrong to assume generally speaking that people are more likely to go to war if they think the cost is low. Lord knows in any grand strategy game I've played I will always declare on anyone who I think is weakest near me. The problem is just why we need to validate nation states far away when it's clear we aren't doing it out of principle but out of a sense of advantageous behavior.
>>543672677>we dindu nuffintruly the niggers of the world
>>543672682kek, you don't even see the self contradicting kremlin propaganda bullshit Tucker is saying?
>>543667868Wow, some real faggot on faggot action op, no wonder you just had to share!
>>543672788>round-hosue kicked them in the face.kek, right, because it's 1.5 million British citizens that were lost in this war and not the russians!? kek, you pidors are so delusional and retarded it's not even funny
>>543672912>British citizensliberal "citizen of the world" nuspeak
>>543672912Sorry Nafotroon, you and Mogg may seethe, but the Ukraine will never be Nato outpost checkmating Russia's entire existence. It's over. Dilate.
>>543672841The Brit said ww2 was a battle between good and evil. Imagine a fully grown man believing in such infantile notions.Do you think he watches the avengers and cries when the good guys win?>This is just like ww2
>>543673045two more weeks, pidrila
>>543673052>ww2 was a battle between good and evilthat's exactly what pootin says and all the russian propagandists, are they all infantile retards as well?
>>543673099You don't think ww2 was a battle between good and evil, do you? You have a much more complex relationship with morality. I wonder if Jacob really believes ww2 was a battle between good and evil or if he thinks its just an easy way to manipulate people who he considers a different species to himself.
>>543673174>are they all infantile retards as wellYes.Take your propaganda elsewhere it's so obvious that this is a zero sum game for you.
>we must fight Russia>Uhh, I mean deter>Yes we are fighting, I mean helping Ukraine fight>Cost? Well, it's out duty. Just like with Belgium and Poland....>Why yes, we sacrificed one million people for Belgium in WW1.>That was a mistake, however this isn't.>Nuking 2 million Japanese civilians is Christian, actually.>Yes nuclearily annihilation russian kids, is too>"We would all be speaking German">Yap yap immigration bad suddenly (I lost the election to Labour after shipping in immigrants with Boris)
>>543673288>russia, unprovoked, attacking and murdering Ukrainians in their beds at night is so nuanced, you wouldn't understandshut the fuck up, you moral relativist filth.
>>543674015shouldn't've overthrown Ukraine's democratically elected leader really innit m8
ukraine is the texas of russia
>>543674106>overthrown Ukraine's democratically elected leader According to whom, pootin? Even Yanukovych didn't file a case with the Constitutional court of Ukraine, because even his own party in the Parliament voted to remove him for being a corrupt russian plant. That's what happens in democracies, corrupt politicians get removed, unlike in russia. And by the way, pootin recognized both subsequent president and the elections.
>>543674231are russians the Mexicans or the Americans in your retarded analogy?
>>543674343>even his own party in the Parliament voted to remove him for being a corrupt russian plantOh how come they voted to "remove" him instead of voting to "impeach" him?
>>543674431maybe as a scholar of the Ukrainian constitutional law you should petition the Constitutional court of Ukraine with your objections to the procedure and restore Yanukovych?
>>543667868kek
>>543667868That British faggot is insufferable to listen to. "roooiioooight". Let's not hope someone gives him some love one dark evening.
>>543674580>he doesn't want to answer
>>543669557>muh realpolitiks>muh balance of powerMogg is just shilling the same bullshit Kissinger shilled which is basiaclly just globohomo propoganda summonting to "we need to fund the military industrial complex, overthrow foreign governments, etc, etc b-because... because it keeps you safe stop asking questions goy!".He's a "forner" a city of london rothschild banker now politician, that tells you everything you need to know.
>>543674015>moral relativistHe says while arguing for moral relativism. Jacob says that the US use of nuclear weapons on civilian populations in Japan after Germany had surrendered was morally justified. Russia by contrast has been quite restrained and limited civilian casualties, compared to the US during the war on terror or Israel recently.Tucker is arguing against moral relativism while Jacob says that sometimes its ok to nuke civilian cities when you're at war.
"How can a nation have sovereignty if it has foreign troops on its soil"A retarded implication like this would imply the US is not sovereign because it has many foreign soldiers on US soil.
>>543674698it's simple, Yanukovych grabbed whatever he could and for some reason was flown to russia, instead to his native Donetsk, Kharkiv or Luhansk. He fled with billions in suitcases to russia and was unreachable by the Ukrainian justice system. That's what corrupt politicians do.
>>543674986JRM is just a sewer of opinions. Pure garbage. It's incredible that his kind can walk freely on the streets. Wonder if that's gonna be the case for much longer, as things progress and people get fed up with jewmocracy.
>>543675112Looks like you're not gunna answer why they didn't impeach him, I guess you realise how answering that question honestly would BTFO the narrative you're trying to push. We can move on to the next question if you like - why did Yanukovych flee?
>>543674986>Russia by contrast has been quite restrainedwhy are you lying, you pidor filth? In mariupol alone they murdered anywhere between 15-20k civilians. russia terror bombs Ukraine daily, with absolutely no concern for civilian deaths ... some "liberators" they are.
>>543674986>Jacob says that the US use of nuclear weapons on civilian populations in Japan after Germany had surrendered was morally justifiedThe whole nukes ending the war is a meme, the US already had the japs on the ropes with some estimates having them surrendering within weeks to months WITHOUT the nukes being dropped.Multiple US generals, leaders have come out since saying it was basically a big dick move for sake of revenge and scaring the Ruskies.
>>543668038Tucker: Leave Russia alone! Stop preparing for war. Mogg: You can't just invade and conquer countries (anymore). Russia is threatening the UK and the threat is tangible given Ukraine Tucker: Russia could destroy you, your military is weak so why are you urging preparing for war?Mogg: Just Incase, as a deterrent. Tucker: You have 19 thousand soldiers and Russia has 3 and a half million Mogg: That's why we should spend more on defence Tucker: You'd rather waste mone on a war you'll never win instead of using that money for welfare? Would Britain's vote for that? lowkey can't watch more this is one hell of a russian shill holy fuck
>>543675242Slight exaggeration but ok.https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293492/ukraine-war-casualties/Not exactly like nuking two civilian cities just because you'd made these bombs and Germany had already surrendered so you had to nuke someone.Not even exactly like the US war on terror which had a far higher civilian death toll, or the genocide in Gaza. In one breath you want to talk about nuance then in another breath you want to clutch your pearls and frame the Russian and Ukrainian conflict, like ww2 as a battle between good and evil.
>>543675434It's a flawed argument anyway:>we HAD to nuke them because if we invaded even more people would've died!!!!Ok so don't invade either>b-b-b-b-b--b-b-b-b-but WE HAD TO Nope.
>>543675214>why they didn't impeach himagain, for the retarded russian shills: he fled and was unreachable by the Ukrainian justice system to serve him the papers. AND in the parliamentary/presidential republic, such as Ukraine was in 2014, the Parliament through the constitutional majority vote of 328 deputies, voted to remove Yanukovych and call a new presidential election in May 2014.
>>543675467>Russia is threatening the UKOh why are they threatening you Nige?>FOR NO REASON AT ALL STOP ASKING
>>543675467>You have 19 thousand soldiers and Russia has 3 and a half millionYou mean they could end this miserable farce in an instant and wilfully choose not to, every day? Monsters.
>>543675214>why did Yanukovych flee?a special operation by the FSB and GRU to trigger a political crisis in Ukraine. Yanukovych was removed not by his own security, but by russian special forces.
>>543675467>you used to work for the Rosthchilds correct?>you're an international banker? do you have any investments linked to the war in anyway? do your former employers?>you're still in contact with them? do you take calls from them?yeah Tuckers arguments are poorly thought out and he comes across as panicky compared to the Bong calmness and eleqounce regardless of Moggs arguments.Instead of arguing the realpolitik angle he should be arguing the globohomo banker angle which would cut close to home for Old Moggsy
>>543675573>was unreachable by the Ukrainian justice system to serve him the papers.That's not the reason they didn't impeach Yanukovych my little liar, why won't you say the real reason?Because it BTFOs your narrative.
>>543668026Tucker wants to enjoy trust fundsCivilized people are responsiblesummary of half of his content
>>543675467>Russia could nuke London INSTANTLY >Yeah, and we could nuke Moscow but I wouldn't want that >[concerned lowered voice] You would nuke Russia to preserve the world order and protect sovereignty? >It's a deterrent and the final use of force >So you think it's okay to nuke innocents? >We're not talking about innocents >Can a Christian really justify nukes? >Yeah>So in an abstract sense you are okay with killing your own kids?
