Why is this so controversial?She was drunk.Like an underage minor, a drunk woman cannot consent. Its rape. Pure & simple.
>>543694117That's why trying to hook up with women at bars is BEYOND retarded. If you succeed and she decides she regretted the encounter or you do something to piss her off even years down the line, you're completely fucked as there's security footage of her getting intoxicated during your first meeting. It's playing Russian Roulette with pussy instead of bullets.
>>543694256But what if she got me drunk?
By that logic, Jake couldn't give consent either and was raped too. Basically, lock then both up for being degenerate alcoholics and fornicators.
>>543694117as a town rapist, i find this highly offensive and against my beliefsdelete this or hear me in the court of law
>>543694291It doesn't matter to most courts, you're still the guy so if she's drunk too she's the one who can't consent and you're just the drunk rapist capitalizing on that fact.
>>543694117This is ragebait, it’s not real
Women are girl bosses except for sexual situations.Then they are weak minded and easily manipulated by mentally stronger men.
>>543694117I agree women shouldn't be held accountable for their actions, and accordingly we should take their right to vote away.
>>543694375It is unfortunately law in almost all of the west, ragebait or not.
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>>543694117Same for the guy, neither could consent, they raped eachother.
>>543694117if they are both drunk and she is so drunk she cant even consent to sex, how is he supposed to judge whether she is sober enough to consent in the first place?and two drunk people too drunk to consent to sex, wouldn't be able to achieve sexual intercourse anyway
In fact, someone with mental health issues can't consent either since they can't be held accountable for their actions according to the law, so if you have sex with someone that has shown signs of depression, you're a rapist and need to go to jail.
>>543694117I had a roommate in college who would fuck nothing but shitfaced drunk girls, he’s really lucky if nothing ever came of that
>>543694305jake no stiffy if drunkjosie cant rape floppy
>>543694629She fingered his bum tho and licked his flaccid penis.
>>543694407I don't really see a problem with this legal imbalance. It's pragmatic. Women are helpless and weak, despite whatever propaganda they keep yapping about, and when it comes to law, lawmakers tend to be adults in a world of children, so law reflects reality. Ideally anyway, and in this case it does. For women there's no such thing as safe sex outside of a mega trad monogamous marriage, and legally they're protected because they're stupid and can't protect themselves. If men want to play with fire they'll get burned.
>>543694666This, there's a reason men have a butthole. (Well, apart from the obvious one.)
>>543694666devil trips checked
>>543694117and why can the drunk man consent, again?
>>543694678If women don't have agency, we'll have to cut down on this whole equality thing. Fair's fair.
>>543694291Women are never responsible for their actions.This is codified in law by situations precisely like thisThere are plenty of othersThis is the literal basis for why they should not have rightsRights come with societal responsibilitiesWomen refuse to take any of thoseSo they deserve ZERO rights
>>543694678Charging people for crimes they commit while drunk is unjustifiable. If drinking is socially acceptable, then society should have to accept the burden of having a bunch of drunk retards roaming around with no self-control instead of making people personally responsible for the damages they cause.
>>543694882Because men have agency
>>543695114if your agency is sticking you with total legal culpability it's time to fire them and find a new agency
>>543694892Yes. But it's like letting your younger sibling play with you, you go easy on them because they're little and weak and will scream and cry if you don't let them play.You still need to protect them from harm, despite how annoying they are. >>543695044>Charging people for crimes they commit while drunk is unjustifiable.Drunk driving. There you go. >If drinking is socially acceptable, then society should have to accept the burden of having a bunch of drunk retards roaming around with no self-control instead of making people personally responsible for the damages they cause.You're pretty retarded ngl. You have free will, if you use that to turn off your inhibitions and nigg out, you get into trouble.
>>543694305Eh, this poster is actually pretty good for reinforcing the idea that men are different, and in this case superior, from women. It's simply science that women can't metabolize alcohol as effectively as men.
>>543694882Unironically because they have penises. In real life, outside of the philosophical imaginary world that most people live in, we all know that having something inserted into you is very different to sticking something into someone. One is "giving", one is "taking". You can't be a receiver of harm when you're "giving". I know you can, but in way fewer contexts than women can, because by default they are the underside of a lego brick.
>>543695401-erections are not voluntary actions, ask any heterosexual while a man is kissing him-because erections are involuntary actions it is entirely plausible a man can be too inebriated to knowingly consent any more than a womerns can-in reality both are absolutely responsible for their own actions even while drunk, brushing off shit you did while drunk is what alcoholics to to evade culpability or accountability and ALWAYS a liebut if one can not have agency, neither have agency
>>543695285>Drunk driving. There you goYes, it shouldn't be a crime.>You have free will, if you use that to turn off your inhibitions and nigg outIt's hard arguing with sub-75 IQ people. The moment you're drunk, it's a random chance whether you'll do something deemed illegal or not. You cann't *choose* to commit a crime when you're drunk, which is the basis of modern legal doctrine on culpability. The only reason we still charge drunk retards is to appease retarded moralists like you who can't accept that either drinking itself should be illegal, or we should accept that it's not someone's fault that they did something illegal while drunk.>hurr but you chose to drinkYes, and drinking is completely morally acceptable. Then, from random chance, your drunk body went and did something illegal so now you have to pay for it? Kek
>>543694117Lol holy shit I remember seeing this poster in high school like 20 years ago
>>543695539>it's a random chance whether you'll do something deemed illegal or not.I've never been drunk, but you definitely have never been drunk. >You cann't *choose* to commit a crime when you're drunkYeah you can>which is the basis of modern legal doctrine on culpabilityCorrect>The only reason we still charge drunk retards is to appease retarded moralistsIf you choose to do something, even via the route of making it easier by disabling your inhibitions, you still chose to do it. >who can't accept that either drinking itself should be illegalOh I think it should be illegal too, nothing good ever came of it, but my reasoning isn't all water-head baby retarded like yours >Yes, and drinking is completely morally acceptableWe're talking legally not morally >from random chance, your drunk body went and did something illegal so now you have to pay for it?Again, it's not random chance, even animals don't do things randomly. You wouldn't know because you're a Muslim or something who never drank, but you're fighting a strawman.
>>543695539all alcohol does is make you less inhibitedit reveals the REAL youwhy someone telling you off while drunk and saying afterwards "t-that wasn't me" is a fucking LIARthat's absolutely the most innermostest you coming out, you just never SAY that shit otherwisesocial masks are nearly impossible to wearit's why older generations of men traditionally would not trust ANYONE they'd never been shitfaced drunk withto see who they really were
why men mistrusted the shit out of guys that didn't drink at all, either; you must have something to hide
>>543695532>erections are not voluntary actionsAre you a woman? Erections are meaningless as to what you do with them. >because erections are involuntary actions it is entirely plausible a man can be too inebriated to knowingly consent any more than a womerns canYeah but probably not, as I said the contexts for male rape are far less likely than female. Actually that's not correct, apparently men have the most rapes if you count booty bandits in prison, but women raping men just doesn't happen, that's the kind of perfect storm of really dominant woman, perfectly physiologically capable and simultaneously submissive/incapacitated man that happens only in theory. >but if one can not have agency, neither have agencyProblem is being drunk is a spectrum. If you're blacked out and unconscious, nobody has agency, but nobody is raping anyone. I don't know if I'm defending women legally getting a "you raped me" card for simply being tipsy, I guess I am presuming the female in the poster to be on the far end of the wasted spectrum.
>>543695720>>543695819/pol/ retards are really all a bunch of facebook moms at this pointno logical arguments, just emotionsthat's cool, I guess
>>543695260Thank you, Shirley.
>>543695992You are brown
>>543695983>Are you a woman? Erections are meaningless as to what you do with them.look nigger if you pass out drunk and some chick say, ties you to a bed, she can do whatever she wants with your erect penis whether you want her to or notyes this is incredibly hot IN THEORY but shut up, the point retains its validity
>>543695992>nothing but logical truth in the post>"no logical arguments, just emotions"you will never be a real troll
>>543694375It's real. Coastal Carolina University verified the authenticity of the poster but will only say "we are no longer running that particular awareness campaign" when contacted about it.
>>543696023just pay it forward, let me give you my routing number
>>543696203>pass out drunk>erect penisNever happened ever, are you another underage Muslim who doesn't understand alcohol >some chick say, ties you to a bed, she can do whatever she wants with your erect penis whether you want her to or not This also has never happened, the only people that rape men are other men
>>543694117Women don't deserve equal rights
>>543696333[post redacted for entirely inappropriate content with the religious requirement image]
>>543695285You are a fucking simp. it's no wonder the British are going extinct in their own lands.>no you see you have responsibility over women but you cannot have any authority because that would be mean.> Men must give up all authority even if that makes them and women miserable on the ong run.... but keep up with your men duties or else!!!Fucking cuck, you will get replaced. Good riddance.
>>543694375Debbie Conner, the vice president for campus life and student engagement at Coastal Carolina University, confirmed to the Daily Dot that the poster originated from the university. Conner said it was published in 2008 by the Campus Assault Resource Education Support Coalition, made up of students, faculty, and staff at the university. “It went out of circulation in 2008,” she said.
>>543694117Had this happen to me I slept with some cunt and she wanted to date and I said no so she reported me like a month later. A dyke Detective showed up and said they wanted to talk I said you got a warrant? They said no and I said well you can fuck off then can't you? Never heard a word about it since. Never trust a woman in today's society they're fucking unhinged
>why aren't men approaching women?>why are birthrates declining?
>>543696670to be fair the global pop has quadrupled+ in less than 100 years so something gotta give, we're just particularly retarded and aren't stopping the indians and chinese and africans from reproducing out of control
>>543694117If Josie cannot consent because she's drunk, then Jake, being drunk too, cannot consent either. So it's... mutual rape?
>>543694117I disagree. There's a difference between drunk and blackout drunk.
>>543694117https://youtu.be/Kcy9rQjMglU?si=2oysCeTWEtvfqaC2
>>543696480Imagine being Brazilian and saying anything
>>543694117jake was drunk too and couldn't consentso why isn't josie charged with rape too?
Just kill every girl you have sex with, problem solved. She can't make rape accusations from a shallow grave.
>>543694117The Origin of the PosterThis image is a real flyer produced in 2008 by the Campus Assault Resource Education Support Coalition at Coastal Carolina University. It was a localized student-led campaign intended to warn students about the dangers of alcohol and sexual assault.However, it was so poorly received, heavily criticized, and deemed legally incorrect that the university pulled it out of circulation that same year. The university has since publicly distanced itself from the messaging, acknowledging that its understanding of the legal definitions of consent has significantly evolved.
>>543701153Am glad they realized that dissecting sexual encounters is just pornography, is better to believe the victims until proven right than assuming a men incapable of sexual assault
>>543694117I consent for both of them
>>543696032>when a /pol/tard runs out of arguments
>women dont have agency and men will be punishedthey both dranknobody did anything wrongthey hooked up drank end of story
>>543696646i had a drunk bitch come to my house and fuckshe was on drugsi had to call the paramedics to come get hershe started freaking outshe called my work and tried to get me firedmy boss simply said that is not work relatedwomen are nutsi cant even imagine the shit that goes on in their headstrying to spin narratives about how they are a victim
>>543694117What is consent and why does being drunk make a male liable but not the woman?
