When they say Orthodox jews dont support the state of Israel that's such a ridiculous and obvious lie.
>>543699592Yep. Jay Dyer says this a lot. Fucking faggots. Ben Shapiro is an "Orthodox Jew".
>>543699592>>543699652True, but those are hasidic Jews, not orthodox Jews you fucking retards
>>543699592>>543699652>>543699712But to answer your question,they don't work,they don't enlist to the idf, they protest like crazy, their motto is "death over enlistment" and they have a tfr of 8
>>543699695Chabad is Orthodox you fucking idiot.
>>543699776I know all about the jews and I've been warning everyone for over a decade. You should have listened.
just read haaretz, toi, the forward, the jeshiva world news.the haredi, for the most part see the current entity called isreal as a blasphemydon't worry about wordslook at what they do.they bleed the state of untold amounts of money, do not go and die in the trenches, extract massive amounts of money from the other inhabitants via their koscher tax on food and other things, they enforce gender segregated streets, buses and universities/schools. their plan is to destroy the current isreal, because otherwise their redeemer will not show upkind of jooos joooing joooshilarious.
>>543699995>vidrelWTF this is annudashoah, Netanyahu is a criminal.
>>543699919Chabad is a minority, most of them aren't even in Israel.The three main hasidic groups in Israel are against enlistment 1. The Sephardic Haredim (Shas)• Who they are: Representing Jews of Middle Eastern and North African descent, they are politically organized under the powerful Shas Party. Demographically, this is the largest and fastest-growing Haredi sector.• Enlistment Stance: Conditional and heavily restricted. The leadership maintains that full-time yeshiva (seminary) students must never be drafted, as their Torah study spiritually protects the state. However, the Sephardic community is culturally more integrated into broader Israeli society. The political leadership has quietly conceded that Haredi youths who are not actively studying in yeshivas could potentially serve in specialized, strictly religious military tracks2.The Litvaks / Lithuanians (Non-Hasidic Ashkenazim)• Who they are: This group consists of European-descent Jews who trace their traditions back to the non-Hasidic Torah academies of Eastern Europe. They form a major core of the Degel HaTorah Party.• Enlistment Stance: Staunch ideological resistance. The Litvak community places the highest premium on intellectualism and pure Torah study. Their leadership views any military enlistment as an existential threat to their lifestyle and a deliberate attempt by the secular state to secularize their youth. Mainstream Litvak rabbis strongly order their followers to ignore draft summons entirely.• Note on the "Jerusalem Faction" (Peleg Yerushalmi): This is an ultra-conservative, extremist offshoot of the Litvak community. They are completely uncompromising, leading highly disruptive street protests and blocking highways whenever any Haredi youth is arrested for draft evasion1/2
>>5437001863.The Hasidim (Ashkenazim)• Who they are: This group is composed of numerous distinct dynasties, each led by a hereditary spiritual master (Rebbe). Politically, they align with the Agudat Yisrael Party. The largest Hasidic dynasties living in Israel are: • Ger: The largest and most politically influential Hasidic dynasty in Israel. • Belz: A massive, highly organized dynasty known for modernizing its educational institutions. • Vizhnitz: Another highly prominent group with a massive presence in cities like Bnei Brak.• Enlistment Stance: Total institutional refusal. Like the Litvaks, mainstream Hasidic dynasties completely reject military enlistment for their yeshiva students. They strictly enforce community isolation to preserve their religious identity and protect their youth from secular influences.• The Chabad Exception: As discussed previously, Chabad is Hasidic but operates independently from the main Agudat Yisrael political block. Chabad has a slightly higher rate of military service—primarily through specific historical arrangements where young men complete their studies, marry, and then serve in specialized roles (like military rabbinate or technology)—though full mainstream combat enlistment remains low.>>543699941Even Hitler didn't go after my people (the Karaites)
DEATH TO ALL ULTRA ORTHODOX JEWS AND MUSLIMS AND PALESTINIANS
>>543700375Nope You will pay taxes for them, you will get outbred by them, and you will die in a ditch for them
hahahahajooos joooing joooslook at how the haredi fleece the resthilariousisreali statistics show the kosher regime in isreal costs average consumers massive amounts of money. daily average cost of living goes up 5%, meat 20%The **5% figure** is real but slightly mischaracterized: a 2015 Israeli Finance Ministry report estimated that kosher certification adds **about 5% to the cost of producing food** (not overall cost of living). Total economic cost was estimated at **₪2.8 billion (~$770 million) per year**, with ~$152 million attributed specifically to the Chief Rabbinate's near-monopoly on supervision.The **meat premium is actually far higher than 20%**: OECD data (2024) shows meat prices in Israel are **64% above the OECD average**, and overall food & beverage prices are **52% above the OECD average** — second only to South Korea. A 2020 Competition Authority study found kosher requirements on dairy imports alone add 1.9–9.9% to costs.So the direction of the claim is supported, but the specific numbers are off: the 5% applies to food production costs (not daily cost of living broadly), and the meat markup is substantially larger than 20%.
>>543700520Good, hopefully the next government will give them more
>>543700408DuhBut I vvill go to Tel Aviv uni and study 6 years for first and second degree in Electrical Engineering and work in tech and pay half my monthly salary to themAnd Bibi will get elected again in 24 days and Israel will have a massive civil war, starting in the next 5-10 years
>>543699941We deserve it, I'm happy it's happening to us
>>543700681As somebody who did a compsci degree in the Technion and paying half his salary for them , I'm happy And in a civil war, the hasidics Will win
>>543700753Don't you plan to move out of this shithole? Bibi can't get elected again
>>543700691That's the spirit. We all deserve what's coming, really.
And here and was on 4chan pol and saw the march of the rabbis, like a thousand rabbis marching on tel aviv to protest the upcoming war
The problem isn't jews, it's those that serve the adversary
>>543699592Those are haredi not orthodox
>>543700597so in absolute $ number per haredi head, how much are they subsidized, per one each in absolute number of dollar?Using the **2025 Haredi population of ~1.45 million** (IDI) and the aggregate transfer figures from the prior answer:| Total annual transfer | Per Haredi head | Per non-Haredi head (funding it) ||---|---|---|| ~$10B (lower bound) | **~$6,900** | ~$1,160 || ~$15B (upper bound) | **~$10,300** | ~$1,730 |**Rough midpoint: ~$8,000–9,000 per Haredi person per year.**For context:- Israel's GDP per capita is ~$55,000. So each Haredi person carries a fiscal burden equivalent to roughly **15–18% of national GDP per capita**, borne entirely by non-Haredi taxpayers.- A Haredi household (avg. 5.1 people) receives a net state transfer of roughly **$35,000–50,000/year** in aggregate.- The per-non-Haredi figure (~$1,160–1,730/year) matches closely with the IDI's estimate that each non-Haredi worker pays an **extra ~$1,167/year in taxes** to cover the gap — rising to ~$3,700 by 2048 if trends continue.bwahahahhahahahhajooos joooing joooshilarious!
>>543699592Different sects, each rabbi and the group around him can have some nitpicks that differ from others, and they are very serious about these small details that separate them.
>>543700227Thanks anon, I mean officer. This kind of sincerity will do a great service for the image of Israel. I kind of understand the disdain some idf lads and gals have for the haredim. Do you think bibi will be ousted?
I don't know how to explain it, but I somehow am literally seeing the evil.
>>543700408Nihilistic bastard wake up and get out of that death cult. I love you but wake the fuck up
>>543702506FUCKING HAREDI KIKESKILL THEM ALL
>>543702295>Canadian trannyWhy are you on this board?
>>543702603NOTikkun Olam. Repair the world. Never again. Not for anyone.
>>543702657
>>543700839Nah, I'll die with the rest of the vermin here.>>543700898Godspeed.>>543701273Not enough,it needs to be quadrupled>>543702238Nah,I think bibi will get reelected and we will give hasidic Jews more money >>543702506Nah,fuck me ,fuck this country ,fuck Judaism, fuck everybody with beady eyes and hook nose
>>543702811I remember it
Can i still secretly play Hindu "God" pvp if i start haredi maxxing with the Torah? Probably Allah( possibly the God of the haredim) isn't gonna allow that is it?I guess ill have to lay low and actually pray physically in these end days
>>543702872I want a peace in the middle east which is lasting.I hope that you do not vote for Likud.If it were me I would vote for Hadash–Ta'al and we would win.
Yes tikkin olam eg fix the world in the Hindu Sense that all the "gods" are fixed and at ease, and preferably never talked about again when at ease
>>543703105I wish lol, but look at the demographics, hasidics will be the majority, Jews are hated worldwide because bibi and Jewish nature is bloodthirsty and gayWe will get our comeuppance,we won't get peace
EG never talk about shaitan ege Santana dharma ever the fuck again and just call it jinns from now on and fix the world so Allah can happily Fade us out into the finale judgement years with yeshua bin maryam and the end of gog and magog
they just so happen to have an Israel flag at their "American" weddings
>>543703105you spelled piece wronghahahhahajooosso funnylook up irwin cotlerthe jooo who singlehandedly is wrecking the canadian paradiseirwin cotler
normal people get fleeced to the tune of $850000 per year for each black hat jooo.how?koscher tax on food and base chemicals worldwidepicrel is a sample of the tax stampsover 1500 different ones now worldwide and countingyou are getting fleeced, every day, all daykoscher tax.
>>543703274Have more sex.
>>543703533I have a gf, had partners beforehand I still hate myself and my people
>>543703461Jesus still will take kosher over non kosher on a non shemita year
>>543703564Why? Do you have kids? Want to have them?
>>543703603Because my people destroyed humanity No Yes
>>543703658Are you a woman?
*slaps both knees*I FUCKING MIGHT
It would not be the first time
>>543700898As much as people like to say Europe and America will soon collapse, it's actually Israel that will collapse first, it can't exist in it's current form
Messaaaaaaage in a bottle woahI send an sos to the worldI hope that someone gets my ! Message in a bottle!
>>543703694No
>>543700186Write it in your own words your filthy lazy kike
>>543703834I think you might be lyingDo you live in Tel Aviv or Hebron?
>>543703851K>>543703878תל אביב שימדורה
>>543700227why did you jews choose the likes of the babylonian talmud and likud and not the the theological argument of Rabbi Jacob Joseph?
>>543703995Are you vegan?
>>543704016Better question is why we didn't all become Karaite
>>543704069No, wtf are those questions
>>543704088>Karaiteill investigate, i am researching from an academic source POV, various things, but the circumstances of which ezra was under occupation. Without a shit post, i find it interesting a cursory review leads me to egypt and my research is current at avaris
>>543704016Are you Mormon?>>543704117I'm not good with Hebrew, wasn't taught it as a kid.
That's the reason you hate English so much, right?
Yeah, English is a real bullshit language.
>>543704229you mean the white muslims? No, i follow the Lords one true holy apostolic church, there is a legitimate theological question to raise on how israel was ONLY through peace until all of a sudden british and ashenazi jews present violence as an option, you know, baal worship again
>>543704117You seem to actually understand the gravity of situation and are genuinely grappling with it. I hope you all the best; you and your people.
>>543704329100% is british and american, sorry to put it all on bong bros
>>543699919Nigga look at the flag he's probably trying to trick you
>israel is a corporation not a country
>>543704403That is offensive.
>>543704355Normie or darpa bot reply. No say you believe that Bibi got hit.
>>543704383>probablythe word jew doesnt even work when you discuss our lord Christ, because of the significant differences in the pharissess and essenes (minority) and others. So much so i dont even know why historians label them as jews to conflate with today. Unless....its all been misinterpreted with dispensationalism so ashkenazi jews can larp as a made up sect in judea while claiming Israel. There are however, legitimate practicing continuation of the jewish civil wars in judea. Its nuance and whether the jew here is being genuine or decietful reflects worse on him, but i didnt get that
>>543704403Kill all arabs
>>543704403America is so the state of Israel might as well be a corporation too.
>>543704528shalom, i say go for Canaanites and Phoenicians
>>543704220Basically Jews with no Talmud, Hitler didn't even hate us.>>543704229Okay, still weird questions>>543704355Nah,fuck em and me too
>>543704518I just know that Israeli shill farms operate on here, along with Amerimutt, Chink, and Ruskie glowies.
>>543704357Wealthy jews were doing land seizure via the post-ww2 UN land partition, but the whole nazi thing lit a fire under their ass and so when the arabs were justifiably upset at having their autonomy rug-pulled and handed to the jews, there was a flare up.
>>543704593So killing ourselves and Arabs?
>>543704623Look, if you are a born woman, maybe I could help give you those kids. We'd be weird parents though and I doubt that we would be accepted over there, so if you wanna do that, it would be probably best if you came over here lmaoYou write like a woman. I'll be honest with you. I'm not running any advanced analytics or tracking software on this board right now. But you write like a woman writes. At least in English. That being said, if you are a man or if you identify as such, I would probably still have sex with you. But that doesn't really do much for the demographics issues that you have identified. Whatever your sex or gender identity may be, I hope that you are able to have sex and have more kids if that is what you want to do.
>>543704459I just want everything to turn out okWe oftentimes must fight, but human virtue isnt in the sword. True victory is for all humanity
>>543704623Nah dude, a better was is always possible
>>543704623Hitler hated you guys
>>543704831Nah>>543704942Nazi Germany ultimately exempted most Karaite communities from systematic genocide, deciding they were an ethnic minority of Turkic origin rather than racial Jews.
>>543704942Hitler also shot himself.Hitler also lost.Hitler was also wrong.
>>543705086I remember the Karaite synagogue. It's in Daly City.
>>543705087Nah, he , like Jesus, hated the vile Talmudic pharisees, pretty based NGL
>>543705233Are you with J4J?
>>543705326No, we just hate the Talmud lol
>>543705419Judaism is a complicated religion.