Nutri-Score banned in Poland from 2028! Take that Germany!https://www.rynekzdrowia.pl/Finanse-i-zarzadzanie/Koniec-Nutri-Score-w-Polsce-Ministerstwo-Zdrowia-ostatecznie-wprowadzilo-zakaz,289402,1.html
whynutriscore is objectively a good thingwhich food company pressured to gov so they can sell their crap?
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>>543702044Is it? I can see some random dogshit cereals with sugars have a score of B
>>543702107>comparing two different productspure retardation as expectednutriscore forced Nestle to RADICALLY change their breakfest cereals btw, they have like -80% sugar and -70 fat compared to pre nutriscore era studies show that nutriscore massively improved what people eat
Nutriscore is good as an idea. The execution is fucking retarded. Everyone ignores it because it's just bullshit. If you know any basics of nutrition you can just look at it and know it's full of shit.
>>543701889>Smoked salmon: nutriscore E>Marshmallow flavored HFCS cereals: nutriscore A (they contain bug meal)
>>543702183Bro, its bizarro world we blatantly do evil here. Any chance for something positive must be squashed, the people enslaved and mind raped. Abused and made malleable.
>>543702193yep, my favourite ham has E score, while some random sugar shit gets A. same as EU, good idea but faggots had to fuck it up
>>543702183Sugar isn't bad. Fat is good. Not all proteins are good. Not all added vitamins and minerals are good.Nesquik slop should never have a score higher than D.>b-but it's comparing the slop to the other slop of it's kind, it's not saying that it's good for your health, just better than a similar product!then get rid of the entire system
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>>543702193>>543702122>>543702107studies after studies show nutriscore works and food lobbyists hate ithttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34160970/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12556095/>>543702322it's very strange how mentally enslaved pol is, they would defend lead in gazoline if they can. Literally buck broken rape victims.
>>543702387close enough my brown friend
>>543702323It's all political. Ham gets a lower score because it's not vegan, it has salt (they still insist salt is bad for you and causes high blood pressure) and ''meat causes cancer.'' The only reason they can't give ham F is because it has complete protein.The sugary shit gets an A because it's marginally better than other products of its kind and the company that produced it pledged to reduce the child slave labor in their company.
>>543702327>Sugar isn't bad. Fat is goodthey're not bad, but people overconsume them >Not all proteins are good. Not all added vitamins and minerals are goodprotein is objectively good and people don't eat enough of it and fortified products make the food objectively better >then get rid of the entire systemno, it make the overall populace healthier, people who were going to eat breakfest cereals are not going to eat salad.
Meanwhile the UK treats unhealthy foods with stricter advertising laws than alcohol.
>>543702183>>comparing two different productsexactly the point
>>543702414>studies showLMAOsame studies that lead to all the products getting incorrect scoreshow the fuck could the nutriscore lead to better health if the unhealthy products get A+++++ scores, you dumb fuck?>Saar, the guys who say Nesquick is the healthiest product are saying that health improved after people saw how healthy Nesquick is and started eating it as a health productWant to try again, faggot?
>>543702478Processed meat is a Group 1 carcinogen, Red meat is a 2A category carcinogen. This is factual.Anyone who doesnt want colon cancer should reduce it and eat alternatives (fish, vegetal products etc)
>>543702323Isn't that because of the pink meat chemicals that are used for ham?
>>543701889the GOYIM must consume the SLOPinforming the GOYIM that the slop might be bad for them is bad, because>Costs incurred by entrepreneurs, the need to respect the environment and prevent food wastenot feeding the GOYIM slop is too costly for "entrepreneurs"
>>543702183Poland must have done this to pander to the US
>>543702621>Nestlé and major agro-industrial lobbies have actively influenced and resisted the implementation and evolution of the Nutri-Score system at both French and European levelsliterally all food lobbysts want to end the nutri-scorehttps://nutriscore-europe.com/advocacy-nutri-score-europe/this level of servitude toward corpos who sell you cancer is spritually american
>french flag still arguing with low iq slavniggers in good faithWhat a fucking retard
first of all not all, humans of different species do not digest everything the same, so its all bullshit from the get goa sub saharan nigger, an inuit, and a chink simply do not get the same nutrients from the same source they eat, nor does their body use the nutrients the same way either>>543702515>protein is objectively good and people don't eat enough of it and fortified products make the food objectively better not all protein has the same bioavailability, so slapping a label that says "SSS-rank it has 20% more protein" when its some cow dung that no human an earth can even absorb, it just retarded at best>no, it make the overall populace healthier, people who were going to eat breakfest cereals are not going to eat salad.but cereal has A rating while being 70% sugar?
>>543702044c'est de la merde pour mange-merde qui croient aux calories.
>>543701889We do that in Germany
>>543702183>let's see the ingredient list
>>543702454They're the same flag, fag.
>>543701889Polska should clean out and purge ALL of the EU crap. You've already got LGBT shit. Next is your own replacement. People meme that Poland is based but it's not. Polacy tak samo dostaja bzykanie w dupe jak Francuzi, Britijczycy, i reszta tego zasranego i bronzowego kontinentu.
also yeah>BUTTER BAD>SALT BAD>EAT THE LITERAL TOXIC "VEGETABLE" OIL PRODUCTS THAT WERE TREATED 50 YEARS AGO AS TOXIC WASTE WE USED TO THROW AWAY GOYIM
>>543701889There's this muesli I sometimes get that comes in several varieties and one of them rated C has lower sugar and calories and more protein and fiber than another one rated B.. I'm not entirely sure I understand the "math" behind this. But it's still somewhat helpful to see whether or not something is highly processed and loaded with sugar and/or fat, palm oil, whatever, at a glance though. But always check the ingredients anyway.
>>543701889Nutriscore Opfer
>>543702935>>543702935>not all protein has the same bioavailabilityyes https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11171741/table/foods-13-01771-t003/still much better than eating fats or carbs/glucides .Same with "incomplete proteins" lacking some ammino acids, the alternative is much worsealso you spend lot of calories (thermogensis) digesting proteins, 30% of the calories in proteins are spent in the process, help a lot with weight loss
>>543702652Because it is based on carbon footprint not nutrition, meat is prime nutrition so they want to feed you like cattle with grains
>>543703072Why are so many people so radically against food safety?
>>543702621its not about healthy or unhealthyit is a combination of the nutritional value and the frequency of consuming the individual productthats why they are able to put seemingly fake or highly misleading nutri scores on products like sugar artificially flavored basedbean cocoa puffs infused with corn syrup or whatever they say its A+++ ebcause it has a shitload of added meds "that are good for you" vitamins and what elsebut they also say you shoul donly consume this product once a week but peoples habit is not like that, they eat it on a daily basis and ignore the serving sizes as well so they overdose but the label looks like thats a produc tthat i can eat the green A+ means its good for me, and if it sgood for me it cant hurt if i eat a lot of it right ? all kinds of other shit goes into thatfor example environmental impact thats part of why salmon is rated badly
>>543703229eating lot of grains makes your hips fat and your teeth foul, but your brain big
>>543703118>>SALT BADhttps://time.com/archive/7136460/salty-truth-adults-worldwide-eating-too-much-sodium/>Of the 187 countries represented in the surveys, 181, home to 99% of the world’s population, exceeded the World Health Organization’s salt limit;>The participants reported on their sodium intake from 1990 to 2010 in food questionnaires. Overall, adults around the world ate an average of 4,000 mg of sodium a day, either from prepared foods or from table salt, onions sauce or additional salt sprinkled into meals while cooking. That’s twice the amount recommended by the World Health Organization (2,000 mg per day) and nearly three times the amount the AHA says is healthy (1,500 mg per day).yes>LITERAL TOXIC "VEGETABLE" OIL PRODUCTSall the studies who that seed oils are not particulary unhealthy, the inflamation meme is retarded
>>543701889We have our own version of this, similarly pointless. It makes more sense to teach people what non-processed healthy food is so your own brain can give the food product a 'nutriscore' - smart people don't even need that and can operate on pure instinct.If you're too dumb for that then those nutrition scores can be used for sinister purposes as seen here >>543702107
>>543703249Food safety as you understand it is a uniquely American thing. You eat toxic waste in America. They don't have that problem in Poland so they don't need American solutions for American problems that don't exist in Poland.
>>543701889These systems are pointless, they always rate diet soda above milk, margarine above butter, and oreos above steaks.
>>543703118Seed oils should only be used as fuel for diesel engines as rudolf intended
>>543703372You have no idea what you are talking about the US doesn't even use this system
>>543703118>BADthe label is misleading do not fall for the optics trusting the nutri score label is on the same level as taking the untested experimental mystery injection shot into your body from a stranger because the tv said you should wear a mask and protect your grandma or whatever
>>543703287this it's very incomplete and leads to retards eating nesquik every meal because it's healthy food
obesity only went up since that shit came out, its ineffective at best, harmful in practice because retards will just eat twice as much if it's an A product. Don't force people to pay for the certificate it's just a global scam
They only nutriscore I need is the kosher food label because I know the jews won't poison that one.
>>543703411there's just no talking to 70 iq burgerinos ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>543703497Literally almost everything sold in the store is kosher. Doritos are kosher that's not going to restrict your diet beyond pork
>>543703291Eggs and fish make your brain big, brains are cholesterol, also testosterone is made from cholesterol, eat a dozen eggs in a day and the next morning you have a rock hard morning wood, why they hate eggs as well
>>543703497lul
>>543701889Are you "xD" Pole?
>>543702868Ok? And now nestle has an A score when they deserve an F on every one of their products.Your point?>DOOOD, 10 years ago nestle was really mad that they got a low score so they resisted and lobbied and bribed until they got an A score!>this means the system is goodBrain damage?
>>543702414Lol.Go get lit on fire by an inbred nigger, you little faggot.
>>543702044>nutriscore is objectively a good thingDoritos scored B, kek.
>>543703476its misleadingthe basic argument is we give you this metric without explaining it and presenting it in a way the common person misunderstands itbut they argument you and everybody else have the capacity or ability to find out what it means so if you trust the obvious shell optics and misinterpret them thats your fault the same kind of argumenting when they charge everyone to pay the broadcasting feethey supply the service, no matter if you use it or not you have to pay it because it is being supplied for you on a scale that is broad enough for you to not being able to say i am anot using the service ( because allegedly its being played everywhere so you cannot isolate yourself from that so you are using it and therefor you have to pay )these and other forms of reaoning are post war tier shit that evil oppressors would push onto a population they conquered and well, oppress.
Just take olive oil vs. coke. Who the fuck drinks olive oil by the glass yet somehow shit gets a bad nutriscore just because it's fucking oil that goes on a salad. It's retarded. Meanwhile coke gets a better nutriscore somehow even because coke lite gives you holes in your brain.
>>543702327/thred
>>543701889Went to my kitchen to check some items. NONE have it anymore.They quietly phased it out it here seems, it used to be on every item.Some processed slop items had A-B while eggs and such had C or worse.Laughable.
>>543702414Even if your right, if a person is too dumb to figure out mass produced glucose syrup slop = bad then they deserve their obesity and ass cancer.
American here, what's the deal with the Nutritional Facts in Europe? Why is everything based solely on 100g? Why not have a realistic serving recommendation with those stats as well? I want to eat a few gummies, but the package only has stats per 100g, and there's 245g of gummies in a package. Silly. Pinch of salt? Here's the stats for 100g of salt instead, remove 2 decimal places and figure it out. Want to have a peanut butter sandwich? You're going to have to house 13 PBJ's or break out the scale and calculator to get them peanut butter stats boy. Critical thinking needs to be taught in schools here, midwits control everything. People think they are being clever by doing stuff like this, failing to innovate and be pragmatic with reality's use case.
>>543703118Butter is literally better than medicine but "studies" still insist that you must avoid all fats except maybe olive oil. Nothing has eroded my trust in nutrition science more than people who push low-fat garbage as "healthy" choices. I don't do low-carb, but it was a wake up call many years ago and made me realize how many health issues are caused by plain 1st world malnutrition.
>>543703545would be funnier if the cop with the gun pointed it at the coke bottle
>>543704225doesn't matter how retarded the avg is, you're the one paying for the after-effect in health care, welfare due to being useless fatty, early pensions etc etc etcu'd like to think they die early enough for it to not matter, but thats simply untrue. they live to 70-80 while being unemployable since their 40's
>>543702044Nah, it's a scam. Just like their emission ratings, remember the VW emission fiasco?
>>543704272Fuck serving sizes. I bought a regular size frozen pizza and the fucker says "2 servings". Serving sizes should be outright banned as they're misleading.
>>543701889>>543702044Eat the fucking slop Anoni
>>543702183>(((Studies)))Can we see them?
>>543702183Will they have replaced sugar with carcinogenic sweeteners instead?
>>543702387>american educationkek'd
>>543703599>Eggs and fish make your brain bigno, it actually makes you dull and weird because you get lack of thyamin from it
>>543702122Its realative to the other items in its category so cured ham is not lumped in with snacks items ans cereal, or dog food for that matter. But yeah I understand and agree that its a sub optimal system for the general lower iq population
>>543702044it is complete bullshit. they give "a" to super unhealthy stuff just because there is "bio" printed on it. like junkfood n stuff that is from "wholesome companies" lmfao
>>543703072oh boy a mentally ill angloid is having a chudout over "based Poland"stay on your shores
>>543702414>it's very strange how mentally enslaved pol is, they would defend lead in gazoline if they can. Literally buck broken rape victims.Anno 2k26 pol is mostly brown retarded conservatoid biomass. There's a reason /nsg/ isn't a thing any more.
>>543702414>would defend lead in gazoline if they canwell, ya got me. I 100% support lead in gas. Some of us like making horsepower and remember what good gas ran like. Now if you build a hot engine you have to run race gas or worry about detonation. Same with ULSD fuel. Diesels weren't eating pumps and injectors on the old shit. Once that crap was forced on us it was one truck after the other broke down on the side of the highway. All for fuck nothing.
>>543705279Ok enjoy your laws that result in your being arrested for not respecting pronouns, Pawelek.
>>543702183oh you mean it tastes like shit now?
>>543702044what kind of frog are you?
>>543703561Doritos are not kosher. They're made from pork fat and maggots and rat feces. Christian food.
salted salmon is given D (at most) under that system
i completely get what you are saying, and agree, but farmed salmon is literally poison
>>543702044What do Poles even eat? Buckwheat and pig blood soup?
>>543703296>World Health Organization’s salt limit;>recommended by the World Health Organizationyou're quoting as your authority an institution that's responsible for promoting homosexuality, abortion, contraception and covid mrna bioweapons you fucking retardmight as well declare yourself a homosexual demon-spawn at this point I'm gonna quote all your AIDS posts to let people know retrospectively >>543703198>>543702868>>543702626>>543702515
>>543702044>>543702183>>543702414>>543706164
>>543702414Nutritional science is mostly bullshit, they change their minds every 6 months. The only thing that they are reasonable consistent on is that refined sugar and processed crap is not good. The post you replied to showed processed sugary cereals as top rating. (Ray Peaters seem to think that sugar is good, so even that isn't 100% consistent).
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>>543706164Salt itself isn't the problem it's sodium to potassium ratios.
>>543702044You're so fucking gay. On the bright side other euros are roasting you so all hope is not lost.
>>543702626Those groups refer to the evidence for them being carcinogenic, not how carcinogenic they actually are. Group 1 means strong evidence. Group 2 means probably.
>>543703411You wash the protective coating off your eggs, then you have ton treat them with chemicals as a result. Your food is shit.
>>543703229>>543703118>animal make grug good, plant make grug bad and kill grugwhen retards watch retards on tiktok all day
>>543702414nothing like state sponsored toilet paper with no real scientific aspect. they just got state money to write "hey let's see if our sponsor scam works as intended, let's ignore all fact that doesn't prove it work, and conclude that 100% of everything we kept shows it work!"Meanwhile French obesity is skyrocketing and France food culture went from eating lots of vegetables and traditional products to eating crousty chiken and hallal o-tacos every day
>>543702387Excellent bait
>>543702107I wonder what platki tastes like
>>543703943I had to check up on that, and it's true. They have swapped them since, but olive oil is still only a B. Fucking retarded.
>>543703816And it's still better than snack with C rating, it's good indicator.
>>543707203Ther are dry oat flakes made from oat.
i'm all for thisretards SHOULD poison themself and die at 50
>>543707073We wash our eggs with water and washing soda so we have to put them in the fridge
>>543707144Vegan fag flowing with the empathy, ok we meat eaters can die early and you can take many dicks in your long life
>>543707443>>543704439
>>543702387Thanks you USA your my best friend,your the legend
>>543701889What the fuck is a Nutri-Score?
>>543702982Who eats fish and pic related.
>>543706164>World's biggest genetic fallacy fanFaggots drink water. You're not a faggot, are you, memeflag?
>>543701889It does not grade food based on its constituents and processing methods, it grades it in relation to other food. If you do not understand the implication, then you belong to its target demographic.
>>543708365It may also grade based on the overall fatness of the population.
>>543708336faggots tell you to stop drinking water, you're not homophobic, are you?
>>543708742It grades based on arbitary political/ideological guidelines. You won't find a single product containing meat with a good grade, unless the product contains copious amount of harmful additives and ingredients that are rebranded industrial waste.
>>543705896Grab a bag and see for yourself
>>543708792>IQ too low for introspection
>>543708992>too low IQ to make an accurate analogy
>>543702327>Sugar isn't badSugar, specifically fructose which does damage your liver directly the moment enzyme gets depleted if you eat too much is absolutely bad. Then there is glucose which is the primary source of tissue damage and metabolic syndrome despite being 'the normal energy source'. Elevated sugar levels are chemically reactive and damaging lipids and proteins (the main blood test you take to measure sugar levels are literally the amount of damage sugar did to erythrocytes with elevated level of sugar exponentially increasing the speed of such damage) and lowered levels of sugar is actually the primary way to prolonging life. You need sugar in very limited amount and not just sugar, but rather plant food. Sugar in itself bears no value, only harm. Especially for European ancestry people that evolved on primary animal diet, because there are no plants in the north.>Fat is goodFat is primary source of calories of our ancestors, it's the more safe way to get energy. However, it also is not that simple. Polyunsaturated fatty acids are really unstable and randomly become oxidative agents unless they are packed with antioxidants like vitamin E and never heated or come into the contact with air, which is only possible if you eat the whole seeds where it is protected. You also need vitamin C in huge amount to restore vitamin E that gets depleted. Saturated fat in the presence of high sugar is also really damaging, because it cannot be used as energy forcing body to do all sorts of retarded stuff.Industrial processed slop is backed with toxic chemicals and detergents which physically damage your cell lining, your gut mucus layer, your microbiome or mimic hormones. That is on top of damaging your body with processed sugar spikes and toxic fat metabolites.
>>543708911I dunno depends on what the "purpose" of this is. People already consume a shitload of meat (myself included) so if you gamify that and people might take something with an A grade that isnt meat instead of meat then at least i assume that is the though process then something was "improved".
>>543708077Probably another marketing invention where they sprinkle toxic slop with cheap multi-vitamin and pretend that makes it healthy. Something for green parties electorate.
>>543706793useful info, thanks
>>543702183>accuses others of pure retardation>thinks that sugar and fat are the problem with processed goyslop lol the irony
>>543701889good, that "system" is everything but systematic and it enrages me to no end>>543702107this. polackbro is right to celebrate the end of this nonsense
>>543703118this is true, we have picard in Japan and most of the items I eat are D and F and I lose weight because of cal. deficit. they score anything with fat and sugar low, which is what you need for weight loss in order to feel full and get enough nutrients. nutri-score assumes you're trying to maintain an unhealthy BMI.
>>543702044It's common sense what's good for you and what's not. Shit like this is wrong most of the time.
>>543702300checked for truth>>543703296said the french flag>frogs consume the least hot pressed veggie oil in the world>israelis consume the most>french heart attack rates are way below israelsand "scientists" call this "the french food paradoxon". everytime a so called scientist call something a paradoxon, it is just reality that he can't face>>543703379tells you want they want and don't want you to eat
>>543707731don't carei'll gladly pay more if it means retards suffer
>>543703249This system did not make food safe to eat.
>>543701889It was a great idea, but corporations and certain lobbying groups got involved and made seed oils healthier while butter is E-rated.
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>>543710459The relativity of the nutri score only adds to the confusion.Why would doritos have a higher score than butter?What category of products does butter belong to for it to score so low when it's actually better than most solidified seed oil spreads?
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Never understood ceral, if you are going to eat a cake worth of calories, why not eat a cake ?
>>543710648Even my nutrition specialist told me it's total BS these nutrition scores; we had someone like this before.
>>543710459>one of the biggest producers of milk>butter is four fiddywhat the fuck? i pay one euro per block
>>543711238I used a renowned brand in case people wouldn't understand it butter.Aldi butter. I bought this yesterday.
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>>543711413Almost 9 euro per 1kg? That's insane.
>>543711413de nederlandse taal is so schattig>>543711466checkedokay, that is not as heavy
