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Why is the Russian economy so small?
It's the most resource rich country on the planet, vast landmass, huge population.
But it's economy is barely bigger than some third world countries??

whats going on here?
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most sanctioned country on earth
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>>543703703
jews have been fleecing russia for a long fucking time
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>>543703703
How are you measuring economy?
>third world
Oh, OP is an uneducated moron that is using defunct Cold War terminology.
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>>543703703
Mostly Russian mentality.
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>>543703703
not sure how europe is so shit that they cant outcompete a bunch of baffoons with 127 million people fucking europe has like 800 million and they cant beat some retarded 2nd world russians truly pathetic
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>>543704139
The power of psychological operations. Europeans are taught to fear Russians, they had for generations. Nuclear propaganda. If Europe wanted, they would conquer Russia. All it takes is the help of the Finns. Unironically, America would ally with Russia in said invasion.
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>>543703756
this was the case prior to sanctions
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>>543703703
Its not small. Its called vodka dick, ok?
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>>543703703
Why isn't Russia bankrupt after 4 years of war?
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>>543703703
Lazy alcoholic assholes who steal everything and do shit-tier work. See vidrelated? That's because some drunken vatnik hammered in a guidance sensor upside down even though the sensor was keyed so that it would fit properly when placed in the correct direction. But nooooOOOoo, gotta use a hammer to smash the thing into place upside down.

Back in the early 1990s, I remember reading an article in a software industry trade magazine about how AT&T was setting up a software development center in Russia. I was a newly-graduated software developer and was worried that the industry would offshore all the jobs to Russia. About nine months later I read another article about how the Russians had stolen all the computer and networking equipment and disappeared. I laughed for several minutes and realized my job was safe for a while longer.

If the Russians hadn't fucked up every opportunity they were given, we might be overrun with alcoholic mongolian rape babies now instead of being flooded with poojeets.

>>543703756
And you deserve it for being a bunch of niggers to Ukraine. Nobody was sanctioning you prior to 2022. Germany was sucking your collective dick to get cheap gas. You could have made a couple of oligarchs richrichrich if you'd just not acted like assholes, but being lazy drunken violent assholes is the Russian Way.
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>>543703849
Their per capita economics are on par with African nations. The large population centers are competitive with Europe, but that's because all of the big companies that extract the resources from the rest of the nation are headquartered there. It's just the capitalist version of what Russia has always been.
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>>543705271
>Their per capita economics are on par with African nations.
name one
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>>543703703
Slavs are incapable of creating something good. They are a slave race like Indians. The only thing they're good for is getting knocked up by AVSTRIAN BVLLS. The closer to the source of AVSTRIAN BVLL semen, the wealthier the Slav.
If the Anglokike didn't stop us, eastern Europe would have the same high living standard as we have.
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>>543703703
Jews use JewDP to claim the Jewish JewDP is highest on earth and goyim the lowest. If you wish to see the true economy size, use GoyDP (GDP purchasing power parity)
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
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>>543703703
You're going to get a lot of retarded answers on here but the real reason is corruption.
Top down corruption.

Look into Putins unexplained wealth, panama papers etc, estimated by some economists to be the wealthiest man on the planet, despite being a modestly paid civil servant his whole life.
Look into the unexplained wealth of his family members.
Look into his friends, such as Abramovich and several other oligarchs, and how they made their wealth, defrauding the Russian state with Putins protection.
In terms of money stolen from the public purse the Russian republic is almost certainly the most corrupt nation to ever exist. As you've pointed out, Russia is the most resource rich country on earth. And it's not as if they aren't extracting these resources. It should be the richest country on the planet, by some margin.

This is why it's especially laughable when people like Lavrov want to talk about Ukrainian corruption. Yes, Ukraine is a very corrupt country, but compared to Russia, Ukraine is in the little leagues.
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4th economy in the world btw
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>>543705271
What makes their gdp low is the low value of their currency. However, they are largely self sufficient and if you use purchasing power parity they are like the 5th or 6th biggest economy.
I’ve actually looked into this pretty hard when I was trying to relegate all of the shit I heard about how rich the us was with the actual living standard of anyone not born into boomer wealth and I found out Russians actually have a higher floor than we do, but also a lower ceiling.
It’s easier to be poor in Russia, and easier to move up. But how high you can move up is less potential than the US. But you need prohibitively high starting capital to even get to the point you can move up in the us so it’s a moot point unless you have familial help
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>>543705804

PPP is poor people points and nothing but cope. If you measure an economy by PPP then fucking Nigeria apparently has a bigger economy than half of Europe.
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>>543705939
It does
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>>543705593
Not only is this just more anti white bs, it’s not even true. Russia had some of the best composers, mathematicians, and chess champions.
The Soviet Union rivaled the us and sent a man into space.
And that’s despite communism.
Assuming you’re white you share enough dna with them that you are insulting yourself. For the most part European populations cluster extremely closely enough to where anywhere else in the world we’d be one ethnicity. (Geography prevented large land empires)
You’re just as anti white as the larpagans who claim to love white people but hate the last 2000 years of our shared history.
You should form a political party with them and complain about Christian supremacy and colonialism and how much you hate whites because they are culturally Christian and share genes with russians
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No deficit spending, so no new money supply. /pol/ is too stupid to understand this and so is Russia. The reason Japan, Sweden, and the US are rich is because they grow their money supplies to achieve high employment and exploit all their available resources, and even have some left over to afford imports, and that's why the have "high debt" (i.e., large national savings account), "high deficits" (i.e., adding financial assets to the economy), and "large trade deficits" (i.e., other countries prefer those currencies to their own products). But /pol/ and Russia are too stupid to understand this.

Russia and Putin have been under the influence of the same St. Petersburg School economists since Putin was mayor of St. Petersburg. He got lucky with a commodities super-cycle in the first decade of his rule (sort of; he was giving away oil for dollars) but is now strangling himself because he thinks he has a fixed money supply.
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>>543705939
I’ll be honest ima have to look into that. All I know is you are more fucked being poor in the us. If you are bootstrapped at 18 like the average millennial, you’ll be stuck renting and working for 12-20 an hour your whole life and unable to afford a family unless you’re an entrepreneurial genius or successful day trader
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>>543704567
>back to back WC in Sanctioned Economy
>broke its own previous record
But seriously, I think Iran deserves an honourable mention in this category
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>>543705698
>Look into Putins unexplained wealth,
Thats 100% manufactured by glowniggers faggot.
The entire "mansion on the black sea" came from a claim by one guy who fled Russia after embezzeling millions.
Zero documents, zero proof.
But USAID paid journalists to print it and faggot shills here are paid to keep saying it.
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>>543706110
>Russia had some of the best composers, mathematicians, and chess champions.
and yet russians fuck one another like a pack of incarcerated niggers
it's not really an european population and there definitely isn't anything christian about them
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>>543703703
Russia's economy is about the size of Germany's economy when adjusted for purchasing power. Russia's population is about 70% bigger than Germany's, so in theory Russia's economy could be about 70% bigger than Germany's if it had the same productivity level.

The explanation for why Russia's economy isn't bigger is simple: Russia's economy is more optimized for economic resilience than sheer economic output. This makes Russia's economy highly resistant to attempts to rug-pull it with sanctions and export controls, but it also means it forgoes most of the benefits of international trade (economies of scale, division of labor and comparative advantage) which means it has a lower economic output than it could have.
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>>543705939
You are a stupid faggot.
When a country takes in millions of refugees and gives them everything for free GDP skyrockets.
PPP is a measure thats way more accurate of the real economy.
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>>543705939
This was the street I lived on for years after my boomer parents kicked me out at 18. The electricity barely worked, no heating, etc.
Half of the houses on the street were collapsed. Having boomer parents who didn’t bootstrap you or did was the deciding factor in my generation to whether you could be a slacker and succeed or hardworking and be stuck in the permanent underclass. I’ve seen like 3 people escape out of my peer group of hundreds
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>>543704567
Russia had prepared to become the most sanctioned country on Earth. A lot of focus was put on economic resilience rather than just pure economic growth.
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GDP is based on moving money around

Reduce GDP to resources and industry, then use ppp and the CHinese would be 14 trillion, America 8 trillion and russia about 4 trillion
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Because Russia is a real economy not a like debt fuelled shit show
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>>543703703
Putin is a patsy for China.
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>>543706475
no it's not
if for benchmarking the same economy through a timeframe because it's price resistant
it's not meant to compare economies at all
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>>543703703

Over 90% of all wealth is hands of lesst than 100 people. People there not allowed getting rich....and lucky ones getting unlucky and fall down from 9th floor.
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>>543703703
i'd say largest economy in europe and 4th largest economy on earth isn't that bad. especially considering russia has lowest debt to gdp of all countries on the list. but hey, czechia is pretty signifcant too i guess, a sex tourism capital of europe, for one
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>>543703703
because they never dealt with the rampant antisemitism in Russian society read 200 Years Together
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>>543706669
I produced 50 t-shirts for 5000 rubles ($50)

You produced 10 t-shirts for 4500 złoty ($100)

You have increased your country's nominal GDP more than me, but I have produced more units
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>>543706720
if that's true how come there's three times as much money in use in germany than there is is russia?
>Germany's broad money (M3) supply stands at approximately $4.71 trillion USD
>Russia's broad money supply (widest national aggregate M2X, which adjusts for foreign currency revaluation) stood at 151.0 trillion Russian Rubles (RUB) as of August 2026, which translates to approximately $1.59 trillion to $1.78 trillion USD
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>>543703703
It's called "compound wealth". The longer a country can persist without economic turmoil, the wealthier it becomes. An annual growth of just 2% per year means the country will DOUBLE its wealth in just 35 years.

Now take Russia in 20th century. Loses Japan war. Loses WW1. Communist revolution and civil war. WW2 with massive losses. Cold war leads to economic exclusion from world economy. Arms race to keep up with the US bankrupts the Soviet Union as it sinks half its budget into military. Fall of communism. Lose all republics. Enter world economy with already established markets, making them unable to compete in anything but raw resources. Every drop in oil prices fucks up the economy. Ukraine War- trillions need to be diverted into war economy. Sanctions.

Essentially Russia has done everything possible to waste its growth potential for the last century and counting. Meanwhile all other countries with steady, uninterrupted growth chug along and reap compound benefits.
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>>543703703
They are subhumans. Simply as.
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>>543703703
>why
BECAUSE COMMUNISM IS THE WORST
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>>543703703
They're spending all their money on trying to annex post Soviet countries. Because Alexander Dugin told Putin to re-create the Russian empire
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>>543706475

PPP is shit and used by poor countries to cope.

A real measure is the breadconomy.
If you work at minimum wage, how many loaves of bread can you buy in a 40 hour work week?
In my country it is about 350-600 depending on the price.
In Russia it's about 70-120 depending on price.

I therefore live in a richer country than Russia.
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>>543707038
and when we sell out tshirts you find out you made a lot more profit
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>>543706273

Adjusted for PPP, Nigeria has the 17th largest economy in the world. But does anyone actually believe Nigeria is a rich and prosperous country and would any of you actually want to live there?
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>>543707085
because of higher price levels, and a much larger volume of currency in circulation necessary to facilitate everyday business and trade at those higher price points. the rent, food and electricity cost a lot more in berlin than in moscow, despite berlin being a much worse place to live than moscow by every conceivable metric
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>>543703703
>It's the most resource rich country on the planet
Wrong. Also Russia was able to reach all these resources only mid 20th century after massive soviet money investment. Before that Russia was extremely poor resource wise for all it's history. Risky climate for agriculture providing x2-x3 times less harvests than tempereate european ones, no iron ore deposits closer than ural mountains, not warm enough for horse breeding, first salvageable oil was discovered in modern Azerbaijan. And even today these resources are very hard to get and transport back to their consumer, as they located in mostly unhabitable zones.
>vast landmass,
That's detrimental. As population dispersed across big landmass means far more costly infrastructure, less connectivity between markets and thus handicapped economic activity.
>huge population.
Russian population isn't huge, quite contrary Russia's population is lacking ~100-150millions to reach same population density in economically viable areas to be comparable with central and western european countries in their economically viable areas. Germ genocidal war against Russia did a lot of harm there, while also destroying 70% of national wealth. Currently Russia is underpopulated and needs way more people. And population density affects economy directly.
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The total number of goods and services produced in Russia is higher than in Germany -> that's what PPP measures

Germany produces less, but more expensive (in dollar terms) goods and services -> that's what nominal measures

>>543707579
"Rich and prosperous" is a completely different metric. Nigeria has a much bigger economy than Switzerland, but the average Nigerian isn't richer or more prosperous than the average Swiss.
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>>543707778
>"Rich and prosperous" is a completely different metric.

I reiterate, PPP is a cope used by poor countries to try and make their economy look better than it actually is.
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>>543707643
>despite berlin being a much worse place to live than moscow by every conceivable metric
try disposable income as a metric
>>543707778
gdp also measures consumption, stop hiperfocusing on production
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>>543707904
We're comparing sizes here. OP said "smaller", he didn't ask if the average Russian is poorer than the average German. Russia also has hundreds of billions in foreign exchange. It isn't a poor country.
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>>543707667
>Germ genocidal war against Russia did a lot of harm there,

Nah, it didn't do nearly as much harm as feminism did
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>>543708072

The only thing that should matter with an economy is how good do people live. And people objectively live better in my country than in Russia.
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>>543703703
>Why is the Russian economy so small?
Doesn't saying this just make the EU performance in the last 5 years even more pathetic? Getting outmaneuvered and suffering heavily from inflation because of a GDP the size of Belgium or whatever.
Or are you still in the denial phase where you think our warmongers haven't tried everything they realistically could and it's all 4D chess?
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>>543708146
How people live is not dependent solely on their income, but has multiple other subjective factors as well. If you feel that you live well, then that's all that matters.
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>>543705766
>ppp
Cope
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>>543708258

How well a person lives would depend on the economy, things like infrastructure and healthcare do not pay for themselves.
Objectively my country has better infrastructure, welfare, healthcare, education and services than Russia.

What purpose does PPP serve other than to brag? It obviously does not make a country richer or it's peoples lives better.
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>>543707579
Nigeria has an enormous population. What matters to prosperity isn't total GDP PPP, what matters is GDP PPP per capita.
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>>543703703
After the collapse of the USSR, Putin’s oligarch friends controlled all of Russia’s revenue. The entire economy flowed into the pockets of these jews.
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>>543703703
>why is an economy that has been cannibalized for the war effort small
Do you have schools in the Czech Republic?
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>>543708403
>What purpose does PPP serve other than to brag?
it's resistant to price changes so you can simple benchmark an economy growth year to year better because you've basically gotten rid of a lot of variables
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>>543707085
The economy isn't imaginary currency. The economy is resources, equipment, services etc. and their value. Russia has more value, Germany has more monopoly money sanctioned by Globalism.
Every finance fag could be exterminated and the world economy would be improved after a temporary shock where all the financial bureaucracy bullshit that serves no purpose is being removed - like having heavy metals removed from the body - first it's bad, then everything gets much better. You're all worthless, corrupt, Jewish middle men. Every term you use like M2X, M&Ms, GDP, BBQ just clouds your eyes from a basic truth:
>Russian resources, fertilizer, weapons etc. (hard value) being used and exported are worth more than overpriced has-been German companies getting dumpstered by Chinese companies
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>>543708403
>Objectively my country has better infrastructure, welfare, healthcare, education and services than Russia.

Not necessarily. Look at the American healthcare system. Just because it costs more, it doesn't make it better than the French one. It's simply overpriced.

There are also non-monetary values. You can pay $50k/year at Harvard to learn about white privilege and 72 genders, these the Russian universities don't teach.
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>>543708718
>niggers cannot comprehend causality
>zioggers cannot comprehend added value
truly amazing
>>543708728
your analogy is absurd harvard lbgt diploma gets you better jobs than any russian diploma would
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>>543706335
>Thats 100% manufactured
So Putin is not wealthy? Is his family more wealthy than an average Russian family?
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>>543703703
cause its cold as fuck? its like 90% a frozen tundra
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>>543708728

Russians travel to my country for education and healthcare on top of it just being a better place to live. No one in my country travels to Russia for anything.
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>>543706335
>Calls out Jewtin
>Ends up Gulag'd and tortured to death there
>Nothing to see here, NAFO TROONS!

Russians are beyond subhuman.
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>>543708403
and objectively living in Belgrade is better than living in Berlin or Paris because I don't have to worry about rowing gangs of niggers, despite my salary not allowing me to purchase the newest goymobile.
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>>543709040
You didn't talk about value or yearly created value, you talked about currency.
Another hard measure for industrial output is electricity consumption which does not support your currency numbers.
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>>543703756
Cope, we were always ahead of you in G8 even if we're much smaller, lots of us evade taxes and 1/3 of our country is a drain.
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>>543709040
Perhaps it can get you a higher - paying job. But for some people, a better job is making Banderols to launch at Ukraine. We can't know everyone's subjective values!
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>>543709525
and literally no one thinks that Italy is superior to Russia in any way that matters, and is indeed the best evidence of how GDP is fuck worthless metric, as if it wasn't obvious already
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>>543709330
>Another hard measure for industrial output is electricity consumption which does not support your currency numbers.
wolfram lightbulb consumes 80 watts per hour, led lightbulb consumes 16 w per hour, which one gives more lumens?
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>>543709525
The Italian economy is smaller than the Russian one - Italian industry is several times smaller. Being ahead in a Jewish contest (GDP) doesn't mean anything practically and any serious matter like war clears things up c
quickly.
Arguably the value produced by Iran yearly is the same or larger than the Italian equivalent.
What Geedeepee does Iran have? 3 potatoes? How does this not make you retards question these idiotic economic measurements?
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>>543705160
Very cool webm
>hammered in a guidance sensor upside down
Hyperbole or is that true and verifiable?
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>>543703703
Cynically speaking, because you cannot have industry and the ability to rapidly expand it if everything is inflated and overpriced. By making people earn low they actually can make it economically feasible to increase manufacturing without death spiraling into debt crisis due to no tax revenue being able to sustain capital expenditures in fiat inflated economies. There is a reason why US and Europe spend trillions on MIC but have laughable amount of material in terms of numbers. China and Russia can produce so much shit specifically because they never let economy become bloated, actually deflating the cost of everything industry related.
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>>543703703
Putin is a retard who built his entire political career on being less bad than Yeltsin instead of actually fixing the mess that Yeltsin made.
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>>543710034
That's an impressive lack of comprehending extraction based economies vs service economies.
You really think Russia, or China wouldn't switch over if it was possible?
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>>543709675
You can examine every economy and put it on a graph using electric consumption and there is not a single poor country with high energy consumption per capita while all wealthy countries have high energy consumption per capita even tiny efficient ones - it's a perfect match. Per capita electricity consumption is far more accurate than GDP per capita (you even have two wrong versions of it making it even more retarded).

Germany is forced to be slightly more efficient because they can't afford (lmao - supposedly they are rich!) electricity consumption of other states like Russia, Australia, Canada, US etc. and there is of course also a slight geography bias that is ultimately irrelevant.

Electricity consumption as measurement is not attractive in the West because it makes it clear that China has the largest economy in the world by far and the largest economy in Europe is Russia and the distance between Germany and Russia is growing.
This is reflected in the current wars where Russia and Iran have far more weapon industry than their adversaries per capita despite supposedly NATO being 100x larger than Russia economically (seriously it would be less embarrassing to drum up Russia as being far stronger than they are since they do have serious limitations).
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>>543708403
>my country
You are a cocksucking nafo troon with a memeflag. Fuck off you lying faggot
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>>543703703
If you'd pay attention to Putins 2 hour history special show he did after special operation you would know. Wh*tes stole from us. Thousand years ago all slavs were united under an epoch that was called Pax Gandona with Moskva in the Russkandian Empire as it's seat of power. Envious the anglo-saxons in cohort with the Hoholian tribes the west infiltrated us and destroyed from within. They corrupted our souls with materialism and alcoholism. Made us weary of one another and hatefull. Yes everything wrong to this very day can be traced back to this one event. This is why are relentless in our fight against white supremacism, WE REMEMBER WHAT YOU TOOK FROM US!!!
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>>543709663
>>543709825
Cope part deux, a high-level manufacturing exporter will always beat a country that can only rely on natural things digged underground and sold to other countries for a pittance. As for the domestic market, spaghetti eaters > cabbage eaters.
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>>543710425
Neat! I wonder how my country is doi-
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>>543710161
He did fix the Jewish mess to a large extent. Russia went from being a bankrupt failed state in 1997 to Saudi Arabia with snow and nuclear weapons in 2007. The valid argument to be made is that Putin is no Peter the Great or Hitler. He could have done much more but what he managed to do was enough to make the US and EU push for conflict with Russia.
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>>543703703
>It's the most resource rich country on the planet
One of, correct.
>Vast landmass
Absolutely
>Huge population
Not really, but sure.
>But it's economy is barely bigger than some third world countries
Russians themselves are the main problem
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>>543710559
Bravo!
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>>543710793
It's like that across 90% of the West. But don't worry Shlomo shekelberg will make a new Geedeepee graph that shows how all our economies are growing and how the US economy is larger than China's, Russia's and Iran's combined despite what our own eyes can tell us.
Also importing infinity Indians is good for Geedeepee! Look how rich Elon musk is and he LOVES JEETS!
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>>543703703
>Why is the Russian economy so small?
It is and it is not. It is because their recourses almost sells itself and the world need it. Its not because nothing ends in the market. 70% ends in the bags of putin and HIS oligarch government.
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>>543710175
Nothing stopping Russia and China from printing x10 amount of money and circle investing making everything cost x10 without physical reality changing (like Nvidia, Microsoft and RAM producers did, or how your MIC was always)
It just isn't good, they'll forever lose ability to create new factories, because why any person with high IQ take real job instead of fake numbers moving. Russian and Chinese goverments can fund 10 billions and get huge plants producing tens of thousands of drones per month. You will spend 100 and get literally nothing, because it was all spend on 'something'.
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>>543710944
>Russians themselves are to blame
More like they are actively suppressed by every gay Free Masonic western power and have been since at least the 1800’s
The British and French are the main culprits, America joined in later and Germany wavered back and forth between ally and enemy depending on their politics.

It’s sort of funny that Britain and France are currently collapsing yet still preoccupy themselves with suppressing Russia. If Germany wasn’t occupied they would still be working against them too, some things never change.
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>>543710668
nigger you would get rolled by fucking Croatia, shut the fuck up
fucking shitalians I swear
>>543710813
>nuclear weapons in 2007
threadly reminder that nooks are fake and gay
now firebombing drone swarm, that shit will be fire. Literally.
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>>543710668
>high-level manufacturing exporter
Which Italy isn't, the cope is pure projection from your side.
Building a Rosatom NPP, an S-400 or the Kerch Bridge at the speed Russia did is legitimately impossible for Italy right now. I don't care if your tomatoes taste better and cost 3-4 times more oh great Italian manufacturer.
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>>543711320
>More like they are actively suppressed by every gay Free Masonic western power and have been since at least the 1800’s
There is unironically some truth to that, but Russia haven't actually made huge efforts to be loved in the west in the last centuries either, or at least play ''ball''.
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>>543711523
>North Africa
WE!
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>>543703703
Its 4th largest in the world, but its not financialized like eurocuckeria

China - 44,3 trln usd
United States - 32,3 trln usd
India - 18,9 trln usd
Russi - 7,6 trln usd (in pre-war territories and population)
Japan - 7,3 trln usd
Germany - 6,4

Just small example

EU adds rent and imputed rent to gdp LMAO, russia does not, just this simple calculation fact would increase russian gdp by >10% in creditors eyes, but why, its not debt driven?

For example 12% of french paper gdp is memetic rent
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Everything gets stolen before it's monetised
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>>543711523
Why should they want to be loved by the West? The same West that wants to balkanise it?
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>>543711523
>haven’t made huge efforts
Actually they did with the central powers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Alliance

European history is way more nuanced and interesting than people let on. Things weren’t always as gay and Jewish as they are now. Though the stain of Jews working through Masonry was a constant struggle for an extended period of time.

Sadly the Judeo-Masons won, and that’s why things are the way they are now.
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I think it's on par. Japan has 120 million people and Russia has 140 million.
The real question is why is India and China's GDP so low? I'm sure it won't be the case for China in 15-20 years, it'll be normal, but India's will still be fucked probably
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>>543711801
See, India has the critical issue of being full of Indians.
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>>543711357
Way to out yourself as a retard if you really think Italy only makes food.
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>>543711523
The Russian Empire is a terrible example for you to make.
Russia after defeating Poland and Sweden made barely any conquests westward, knowing well not to stir the beehive. They conquered in Asia and fought against the Turks instead - freeing millions of Balkanites/Caucasus christians and evicting millions of muslims. Even fighting against the Turks was too much for the hypocrite West Europeans so they constantly supported christian-tormenting Turks against the Russians culminating in the Crimean War fought on behalf of the Turks because the Russians are "upsetting the balance of power" which was that century's version of "defending democracy". Of course colonizing the world by West Europeans was not upsetting the balance of power no-no. On top of that the Russian elite was half Western and there were millions of Western immigrants moving there over the century.

All of that went to shit in 1917 as we know, but you can't blame the Russians for being hijacked and raped by Jews when they were weak because the exact same is happening to us now.
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>>543706396
>polack calling someone white nigger
what have i just witnessed
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>>543711990
Compared to a real economy like the Chinese one, that is practically true.
Tell my anything your companies make that is better or cheaper than some other country that isn't food.
Heck I think it's possible even Denmark has more relevant companies than Italy. Maersk, Novo Nordisk, etc.
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>>543710813
Russia is a shadow of even just the USSR, despite inheriting most of its widely diversified assets. They only started making their own passenger aircraft again relatively recently. The roads are still crap and the water isn't safe to drink in many places.
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>>543705160
>FATALITY! The post.
Also lmao @ no flight termination system
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>>543711801
Why is it that whenever I see comparative stats related to my country it is always shit? Why are we so shit as a country?

Also, I don't think China will be able to maintain its prosperity. They primarily relied on their large amount of cheap labor, but since the cost of Chinese labor is increasing (Mexican labor is cheaper now) and an extremely sharp population decline due to lower fertility rates I think their economic metrics will stagnate at best and radically decline at worst. Yes other countries have these problems but China's version is intensified by their past choices (1 child policy, involution study culture, 996 work culture).
Also, climate change is going to fuck with global agricultural yields, and international conflicts will disrupt global energy exports, all of which China is reliant on. If all of these problems collide I can imagine a harsh economic correction from the "China # 1" years.
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>>543705160
That's mean and unfair to make fun of them for a failed rocket launch from 13 years ago, when we have plenty of our own failures. Not to mention the Russians were the only reason we had access to the space station.
>When NASA retired the Space Shuttle in 2011, the U.S. had no operational human-rated spacecraft of its own to launch astronauts to orbit.
>NASA paid Roscosmos for seats, with prices rising over time to roughly $80 million to $90 million per seat.
>This arrangement continued until 2020, when SpaceX's Crew Dragon began operational flights from U.S. soil.
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>>543712317
>Why is it that whenever I see comparative stats related to my country it is always shit? Why are we so shit as a country?

The short of it was that you were shit, you got the not-fucked-up-in-ww2 buff, benefited from that and USA who had the same buff, and now you are crashing back to ground because jews installed themselves during that time.
>China

Doesn't have jews
>climate meme

kek, cmon, be a serious person.
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>>543711801
Lots of people crammed into a tiny space. Communist self-destructive decisions and before that China was a lolcow (century of humiliation). They are obviously recovering extraordinarily quickly now.

Another thing is that GDP PPP while being more accurate is still retarded. Electricity consumption is the most accurate we got.

On a side note: Germany is even further behind Russia than I imagined lmao. The Polish finance Jew is impressively wrong >>543707085
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>>543703703
>Why is the Russian economy so small?
It's literally one of the biggest in the world lmao
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>>543712619
Also Italyanon where are you on the list??? Where is all that high end manufacturing you're talking about and why is Iran higher????
LMAO
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>>543712607
China doesn't have jews, but it's main strength was it's numbers, cost competitiveness, and foreign energy. All of that will come crashing down.
Also, regarding the climate change discussion, I'll leave it to the farmers who will bitch in 10-20 years.
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>>543712700
I swear to God the fact that we don't have tourism is such a fucking saving grace. That shit destroys the country.
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Russian is running a war economy. They don't care about gdp since they don't trade with anyone beyond selling oil and buying chips from china.
Gdp is meant to measure tradeable value. All Russia cares about is how many artillery shells and soldiers they can field. And in that they are superior to Europe.
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>>543712084
jews like to settle among underclass since roman empire, they learned how to control people with false promises

if economic zone has huge underclass (like migrants) , serfs (overtaxed population), castrates and others you can expect GIGAJEW trying to build new world on your corpse
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>>543703703
how much of the bigger economies is just "financial sector" that moves money around and produces nothing?
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>>543703703
Russia has the 4th largest economy in the world, which is fairly appropriate place considering it's population is significantly smaller than the top 3.
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>>543713002
The majority in the EU certainly. Britain is probably the worst "big" economy. The US despite also being a big finance Jew got huge amounts of resources and important technologies only the Chinese can compete with for now.
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>>543706110
>ignores slavs being the best killer of whites throughout the past centuries
>the most anti-racist and anti-white nation recently was the Soviet Union who starved their neighbours while being the sole reason for china’s modern day power
Nig
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>>543712719
>but it's main strength was it's
High IQ and low crime population despite the low wages and huge numbers. Functioning government that can make things work and command physical reality, instead of simply extracting rend and taxes. They are a cohesive and stable civilization of people without genetic driven issues. They were too stable in fact, which lead them to forfeit modernization in spite of European rapid progress. They never had their Peter the Great that made them adapt, so they were militarily destroyed. That taught them a lesson, so now they absorb everything humanity has to give which naturally lets them develop. They will be the new Europeans, because they are the most scientific driven society on Earth today. They will colonize the ruins.
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>>543712084
Yeah, and now we have an ex-KGB agent controlling Russia that glorifies and bathes in nostalgia whenever the Soviet Union is mentioned, with a higher percentage of muslim population compared to any western country, highest percentage of HIV outside of Africa, second highest percentage of prostitution on the planet, extremely high alcoholism, extremely high abortion rates(Even though it is declining) 1# or 2# ranked in male suicide GLOBALLY.

They may have had their righteous crusades in the past, but boy are those times long gone.
I really do wish it was this cut and dried that Russians were fighting against le evil western kikes, but it's just not that simple.
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>>543712937
Even before the war our economy was geared toward self-sufficiency and sustainability. We began severing economic ties with potential enemy countries even before 2014. Both GDP and even GDP PPP are simply poor indicators of a country’s real economy, there is simply no objective measure of the economy and each country has its own unique characteristics.
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>>543709916
It's real. On the second of July 2013, a Proton-M rocket crashed because the guidance sensors were installed upside down despite it being clear which was the right side up.
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>>543713491
China's actual issue is that they are terrible at war
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>>543713500
You sound like a broken record. You're talking to a guy who rants about how you shouldn't believe doctored numbers in economy (GDP) and then you go around and tell me to believe half-true dogshit NAFOmemes about Russia while I have never said they are better than us outside industry, resources and military production. We drink as much as they do now and who gives a shit if 11 Russians commit suicide per 100k when none of us give shit if 10 or whatever Finns commit suicide per 100k.
It's such arbitrary nonsense, sure let's go to war over 90IQ jewkraine white negroes who are worse than Russians in every aspect over this WAAHOO!

Go back to your hugbox in Reddit, nafodog.
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>>543703703
That's what happens when your country is run by Russians.
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>>543712260
Leonardo s.p.a. , Iveco, Prada, Ferrari of course.
But Italy's true strenght is in those almost nameless firms with a small/medium number of employees. Remember that long ass marble table Putin used to humiliate Macron? Italian. Other interior design items and furniture you could find in multinational companies HQs from California to Hong Kong? Likely all Italian, and the wood furnitures most likely come from a specific small town I go through everyday on my way to work.
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>>543705160
Based russian hammered in sensor
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>>543703703
gee dee pee = wealth is a czech jew invention
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>>543713942
You painted Russians as holy crusaders by mentioning how they chased out turks and muzzies, I simply replied some of the bleak numbers that comes out of Russia today regarding some of these topics.
Me not glorifying modern Russia doesn't equal me supporting Ukrainians either in any particular way.
You're simply a mindbroken zigger at this point Lars
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>>543713918
Factories and tech > combat experience 99% of the time. Chinks will do just fine because they have the biggest industry and enough IQ points to learn from their mistakes.
In fact it is quite terrifying to think about them being an expansive empire in the not so distant future.
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>>543707294
I checked it and got 385-675 in russia depending on the price, let me ask where you got your numbers from
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>>543713500
you might want to update your talking points
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>>543714618

Average price of a 1lbs loaf of bread in Russia is 60-80 rubles.
Minimum wage in Russia is 27,093 rubles a month. This at 40 hours a week works out to about 156.31 an hour or 6252.4 rubles a week.

That means you can buy about 80-100 loaves of bread on a weeks wage.
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>>543714282
That was exclusively because you brought up centuries of history and a propaganda painting from 1871. I pointed out how poor your worldview is because the Western empires were the clear aggressor against the Russian Empire pretty much all the time because they feared their growth with control over Constantinople being a clear center of gravity. And I didn't exactly state that the Russian Federation is the second coming of the Russian Empire lead by Peter the Great, but I'm not going to go to war with them over basically nothing, exactly because I'm aware how gargantuan their military production is and that their fight over de facto Russian territory and cities is understandable and they have been wronged by us. And I'm especially NOT dying for the Russian version of Alabama mixed with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and even lower IQ known as Jewkraine. We would do the exact same as the Russians if we were in their position while our position is increasingly lunacy and Jewish petty evil.
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It is ice wasteland with no sea access and is surrounded by turks.
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>>543703703
Oligarchs siphoning all the oil money to blow coke in their yachts.

Rusjeets are completely OK with it though, they're mindless automatons.
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>>543703703
small population, undeveloped & simple economy
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>>543714837
>the Russian version of Alabama mixed with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and even lower IQ known as Jewkraine
Kek'd
Well, you make fair points all in all.
I'm just a bit fed up about painting particular nations as completely pure and righteous.
None of these countries have clean hands, especially superpowers.
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>>543714148
>we don't only sell food, we also make expensive trinkets
This is certainly worth more than advanced weaponry, rockets, state of the art nuclear reactors and shitting out bridges, railways, pipelines and other large infrastructure projects.
You're grasping at straws, just admit you're a poor goy who was fooled into thinking GDP meant anything.
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>>543703703
You’re a retard czechanon. I see the most retarded posts from czechs and poles on this website. The most sanctioned country on earth is 4th in the world in PPP
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>>543715119
Fair enough, the Russian Federation is mediocre at a lot of things, often terrible at diplomacy, I wish they would defenestrate more Jew oligarchs, making excuses for the Soviet Union (Stockholm syndrome with extra steps), the list goes on. But you have to accept that you pushed them into the Eurasian Empire direction yourself for no other reason other than personal hubris. Europe versus Russia looks exactly the same as the US does with Iran
>they hate us after we tried to kill them! It must be because they hate the West!
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>>543705160
>spacexfailurescompilation.webm
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because they are niggers plain and simple
selling gas and oil is a money printer and they still managed to fuck it up
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>>543715151
Stop making bad faith questions if you're going to act like a retard for everyone to see. You didn't even check what Leonardo s.p.a. is. Bye, fool.
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>>543703703
They was owned by tatars. 300 years ago Tatars mover in Europe (Netherlands etc) and sold them to Germans (Ekaterina2, Romanoffs). Under Germans and church, they were slaves without any right.
In 1917, they kicked Germans (firs revo in early 17), but Germans send Bolsheviks (october 17) and started civil war.

Ussr period, early rulers (Georgians, small ethnicities, Germans, ukrs), later rulers - ethnic ukrs.

Ru period, most of their elite are ethnic ukr with fake biography about being born in russia.
>He was born in small village

People asked about him in this village.
>No, we don't know him

You can't be a real country if all your elite are foreigners.
Best example, ru tv politic shows.
There's 0 ethnic rus on them. Only Ukrainians, Americans, Armenian and few jews.
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>>543716061
Even the Japanese don't like Russia... how can any country fail so completely?
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>>543716371
Japan is not liked by any of their neighbours: China, Both Koreas, and they even managed to fuck it up with Russia after Shinzo Abe was replaced by one retard after another.
The premise that Japan is some good guy is beyond retarded. They straight up score lower than Russia in the being a good neighbour Olympics who has better excuses for not being in a great spot either.
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>>543716661
yeah nobody believes your drivel even for a second hivan
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>>543716742
I know my ancestors pillaged your ancestors some 1000 years ago just like the Russians did but we're not the same. It's just a fact you've been a cumdumpster throughout history with different "fathers".
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sure sure
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>>543703703
"Rus" elites suck country dry and see no future here. Retards get promises of greatness while money is pumped outside in astronomic numbers.
Even with excess oil state money Putin would rather pump it outside into american bonds than lower taxes for 3 years or something, zero interest in bettering the country, better serfs be hungry and thankful for pensions.
Also Moscow sucks both money and people from the country side, all young and capable go to capital that produces nothing while the actual country slowly dies.
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>>543716371
Japanese are just butthurt they lost territory.
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>>543703703
well no wonder their economy is in the dumps– look at their money symbol. they're using poké dollars which is a fake currency from a gameboy game.
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>>543706335
lol
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>why doesn't Russia release their economic info!!!!
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>>543703703
Mainly because they don't have as large a domestic market as Europe or the US. With only two metropoles, Moscow and St. Petersburg, it's hardly possible to have a large economy. But Russian laziness, fatalism, alcoholism and Commie history are also rather limiting factors.
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Well they are alot of improvements since the fall of communism. Wealth is up. Wages are up. Things were getting better and better over time. The issue is it's only been 35 is years since then and it takes time to catch up. Another issue is corruption. If they were half as corrupt thry would be alot better off as well.



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