Should america pay reparations for stealing so much anime from japan?
brazillians will never pay to watch dragonball
>>543707224Most modern anime is becoming 3dcgi troonslop, so I pretty much old shows with no to limited western distribution, stuff like gasaraki, VOTOMS, argento soma etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQweFurRz4g
>>543707224"government acknowledges need to expand legitimate global distribution"Who knew it would take the threat of a full economic meltdown to get the weebanes to stop being so elitist over their anime waifus. Sounds like they might actual want gaijin money now.
>>543707224I have read and watched thousands of manga, hentai, and anime and never spent one penny for it.
>>543707490>let me just pirate your pc real quick>and your house>and your job>and your arms and legs>you are a limbless onahole living out of box now b-but i guess piracy isnt so bad!what a fat retarded fat faggot tbdesu
>>543707224They need better localizers instead of woke faggots from commiefornia
>>543707224Anime is a psychological weapon to make you gay
Probably wouldnt be much of an issue if jap exec werent fucking retards who just go for the lowest bidder for translation work, and 99% of times these are the retards like crunchyroll who do no oversight so the actors basically make shit up on the fly to the point its often pure fabrications that strip story elements or add unwarranted political connotations.Been a problem for decades, and wont ever change because japan exec tend to not give a shit about foreign markets, as far as they care the produce is meant for Japanese consumer and the rest is an afterthought.
>ignore the rest of the world as a market entirely>they resort to their only real option: piracy>pirating becomes normal>"waaaaa, why aren't you giving us money :("
The Wokou Left is stealing the animes
>>543707859>you are a limbless onahole living out of boxHOT
Piracy has increased, but so have global revenue streams. Japanese anime has NEVER had this much cash flow.
pretty sure its third world nations stealing the most not americans
>>543707859You retard, if I pirate your pc, house, job, arms and legs, you would still have them. That's the point of piracy not being theft
>>543707224It is a service problem. Ever since mangaplus came out it's the main way I read Jump manga, I even got a subscription for it.
>>543707224>stealingyou couldnt even watch or read 99% of the shit over the decades, all you could ever find is one piss and similar crappy shonen no distributors, and even fan scans for less popular series are borderline impossible to find
>>543707224Not me, I actually pay for Crunchyroll and hidive. Yes, I'm bragging and yes I'm proud of myself.
>>543708530What the globe needs is better distribution for anime goods instead of relying on third parties jacking up the prices of a 1500 yen prize figure to $35, or a 11,000 scaled figure to $250.
>>543708355Apparently that means something like hairless dwarf
japan was always retarded for never developing a global distribution system for anime.they always left it up to foreign companies.
>>543707859Stop using open source software in this case u retarded nigger. People like me give away their code for 0 dollars, imagine not being a kike
>>543707224Let Nippon burn.
>>543708558I only read good manga so its always easy for me to find scans
im lilerally reinhardo, its an anime documentary about me
>>543707224yesand while you are at it, pay for Brazil too, because i ain't paying for shit
>>543708539ok faggot, let me just pirate your credit cards, your insurance number and your birth certificate, I mean it's not "theft" so it's cool right? baka
>>543708355>Wokou, meaning "Japanese pirates" (or "dwarf pirates"),[1] were pirates who raided the coastlines of China and Korea from the 13th century to the 17th century.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WokouHEY I see what you did there! It’s shit like this that I choose to bother with this godforsaken board.
>>543707385why do niggers love dbz nigel? is it the same across the pond? they love it here
>>543709523do you want a serious answer or a meme answer?
>>543709019Isn’t piracy legal in latin america
what lil takeshi gon do?nuke Japan again
>>543708092Japan is a small, homogeneous country with extreme anime/manga popularity, if piracy ends in Japan they just form communities and lend each other every anime disc, they also get to watch every anime free when it first airs.The west without piracy would have to borrow each others anime, then have their rare anime just get stolen and put up on ebay. They'd have to buy every single anime they want to watch, which would be unaffordable, so they'd only watch 1-2 anime a season.Streaming websites in the west are also only cheap because of piracy.Scarily in the future AI agents will likely be AGI in two years, and they could easily stamp out global piracy. In which case the only cheap media you'd get to consume would be AI generated content.
>>543707224Stop letting gaijins censor/mistranslate then......
I tried to watch Katanagatari "legitimately" years ago and literally the only available option was buying a used set of the DVD's for $600 on eBay
>>543707224There is no reason to buy anime as long as it is censored
>>543707224oh no my shitty chink cartoons and dumb weeb games
>paying for isekai sloplollmao
>>543709962it is as legal as murderin paper? a crimein practice? nothing ever happens
>>543707224>>543707490Japs are retards passing on free money from weebs. It's actually difficult to legally obtain most anime or manga outside the seasonal top 10 and historical top 100 in large parts of the world. You get raped in import fees costing three times as much as the product itself because there is no distribution business. It took Jap vidya makers decades to understand putting games on steam without hasstle and that piracy really is a service problem (in the first world).
>>543709287>it's not "theft" so it's cool right?Yes, you are not losing anything.Dumb faggot.
NEVER put anything on the internet that you do not intend people to take away from you. This includes your ID and any credit/debit cards you have. Because it WILL be taken.
>>543707224>don't provide legal avenues for watching>foreigners watch illegallyWaow. It's funny how the anime industry was on life support in the early 2010's because it relied on otaku buying three copies of every $100 bluray that had two or three episodes on it, and only after reluctantly letting western companies distribute shows online that their earnings suddenly skyrocketed and then the industry starting expanding. Fucking Oreimo had a line about Japanese anime being near impossible to watch in America through legal means.>>543707427You've been saying that for fifteen years.
>>543707385>rent freewtf are you on about it? when it was airing here I pay the bills from your gay-ass Sky TV Network.And I'm sub to crunchroll too, so I don't understand your drift.You care too much for your fellow favelados I guess, those probably don't pay shit for the most part.But then again, they are mostly mutts and niggers, your kind.
Not to mention fansubs were the only way fans of the media could consume the media in the early 2000's, same with the 90's, but instead of digital it was in VHS in a more restricted circle of people.I know they did back in the day, manual fansub but I don't know how it was done or anything.It was probably way harder since you not only had to translate but put on the vhs on the right frame without audio input. It was probably harder.Even crunchroll itself evolve from a fansub, you fucking tards.These nippon executives are tards, they let scam-artist claim copyright on youtube with reactors when they basically promote the media for free. Truly dumbass moves all around.You fucking kike-bongs thought that reproducing shitskin would give you more money, how stupid is that?
>>543707224How do they intend to collect? In BWC?
>>543708690i wish anime can go back to the old days. alot more lore
>>543715876Watch Ishura miruro.tv/watch/nj-vRlHxb3EfVGmJh_YTGGbc5nEoCYll/ishura?ep=1
>>543708021>I have lost touch with my disgust and am susceptble to tranime because I refuse to just not watch abhorrent garbageIf you can't drop a show within the first 30 seconds, you shouldn't be touching any media, let alone anime.
>>543715968>More magic slopI'm good
>>543707224Yeah, what are they gonna do about it? That’s right, NOTHING HAHAHAHAHA
>>543707224At least they understand why piracy has increased.
>>543716093how about magic slop & thinly veiled antisemitism?
>>543714945No, actually 10 years when Shitflix and Crunchyshit started bribing Japanese studios to introduce censorship
>>543707224I'm not paying for fucking Crunchyroll, its run by Zionist Jews who hate anime
>>54371630490% of the time the magical girl thing exists so that Japs can make a character who looks like a child and say “No, she’s actually like 1200 years old and is from a magical realm, so it’s ok and no the men don’t look like children but it’s because in the magical realm it’s different, dude chill”
>>543716304>Be 35 redneck construction worker, grown up with grandparents back then when Sci-fi channel and Cartoon network had the best amine Most anime i dont like now a days. but Frieren is awesome.
>>543716526>90% of the time the magical girl thing exists so that Japs can make a character who looks like a child and say “No, she’s actually like 1200 years old and is from a magical realm, so it’s ok and no the men don’t look like children but it’s because in the magical realm it’s different, dude chill”Doesn't happen as often as you make it sound.
>>543716093I'm not sure that's an appropriate assessment.Then again, it IS episodic character introductions with a seemingly minor overarching story.
>>543716304>>543716663Season 1: surely this is going somewhere...Season 2, episode 1: It's fucking trash.Remember, kids. A lack of character development is an absurd premise for a show about an excessively long lived elf's rediscovery of character development.Fucking retards decided it was shonen.
>>543716304If Goblin Slayer's anime wasn't ruined it would have been superior to Freiren
>>543716526frieren is the least sex driven shonen and zero faggotry. it's based>>543716663saved. i enjoy picrel too
>>543707385I still love that Toei literally rented out soccer stadiums to play the last few episodes of dragon ball super to try and get a few bucks out of the Mexicans that watch
>>543716816>Season 1: surely this is going somewhere...If you watched the whole season 1 without understanding where it was going, it feels like a you issue. If you just didn't like where it was going, that is fine.
>>543716859>Hello. I would like an order of "stab me in the fucking eyes so often that I don't notice how shit the story is"
>>543707224You missed the part where the government admitted it was a distribution problem
>>543716906>spends the entirety of season 1 hinting at upcoming character developmentReally? I wasn't supposed to assume they were going somewhere other than nowhere?
>expand legitimate distribution channelsTwo problems with that. Faggot localizers and religious conservicuck payment processors. Sorry Takeshi but it's fansubs forever for me.
>>543716997They are going somewhere.
>>543709523Blacks and Mexicans almost exclusively like DBZ, Naruto, My Hero Academia, Demon Slayer, and Attack on Titan. It's all shonenslop. Ask a black person if they've ever seen Serial Experiments Lain or Mushishi and they'll stare at you like you're a fucking alien.
>>543716816season 2 was alright, but it felt like is was going a different path>>543716859>DOROHEDORONot going to lie, felt it brought me back to the 90s or 2000s anime days
>>543717058>help, I can't use context clues from the conversation I'm engaged in to correctly read a sentenceSadly, "they" was not at all about the characters in the show.
>>543716816Immortality in the west>Guy is immortal>Barely even resembles a person because he’s been alive for a million years>Wishes he was never immortal, has tried to commit suicide like a thousand times before giving up >The theme is that he increasingly struggles to relate to people who have a fraction of the sense of timescale that he does, eventually becoming apathetic >His plot, crafted through centuries of careful social and political manipulation, murder, theft, and extortion, is to destroy the universe, and by extension himself >The heroes struggle to understand the subtlety of schemes that take literal millennia to come to fruitionJapanese immortal person>I’m a magical girl and that’s just kind of what I’ve always been
>>543717135Frieren does change in a subtle way if that's what you mean. "They" outside of the show is just the author and I'm pretty sure the point is that Frieren learns to appreciate the moments she has with her current friends while they are still alive.The anime tends to drag out fights that were usually a page or two in the manga. Not saying that is a bad thing though.
>>543707224Its Japan's fault for being closed off, they hate making their products available globally
>>543707859He's on a big ass yacht, he was clearly right. If we listen to all the other CEO niggers, you aren't allowed to own the games/movies you buy right? So taking a copy isn't stealing. You can never own a copy in the first place. So yoinking a copy isn't theft because you can't own it, simple as. Also people already steal free copies of houses - it's called Zillow. You can find free digital houses on that site. Even mine is on there! Digital copying isn't actual piracy. Piracy only happens out on the water, with actual pirates stealing shit from boats. And historically freeing slaves. You are on the side of the evil slave-owning businesses.
>>543717286>I'm actually chatgpt, please stop expecting cognition from meShut the fuck up.
>>543717354If pirates just pulled up to a ship and asked to scan their cargo and make a copy I really don’t think anybody would care.
No indie games are just paying tribute to Japan its not stealing
>>543717386Kind of sad of you to say that, but okay.>>543717354>Digital copying isn't actual piracy. Piracy only happens out on the water, with actual pirates stealing shit from boats. And historically freeing slaves. You are on the side of the evil slave-owning businesses.I think the only reason why they called it piracy is because people had a tendency to call the internet an open sea without any rules or regulations, although I usually call it the wild west.
>CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!!
I don't careWe're living in a world in which your one time $70 purchase can be taken away for no reason other than "muh copyright license"I'm going to enjoy my terabytes of anime until the electric grid goes down or until I fucking die.
99% of people don't know how to pirate. They just watch the cancerous streaming sites full of ads. If they take those out then piracy is dead for most people.
>>543717517>kind of sad of you to expect more from me than bot tier postingKind of pathetic of you to not use criticism as an impetus to improve.
>>543717089Fuck I miss Golgo. I cannot believe the TV series was like 18 years ago.
>>543714601Prove it by post your banking information then faggotard, you won't because I'm correct, mald desu
>>543707224>don't sell outside the country>somehow people pirating your stuff when they can't buy it make you lose money
>>543707224No. Japan is WILLINGLY leaving all that money on the table. The world clearly wants anime. They absolutely all refuse to localize it and sell it. It's bat shit retarded, and they should be financially punished for it in lost earnings potential. They should be grateful Americans even tried to help them. Even Nintendo understands it needs to sell to the world to make bank. The fact Japan hasn't gotten their shit together and made some sort of international distribution service that employs a team of translators and hosting servers is retarded. People are out there doing it for free. There is interest and demand. You can still gatekeep as long as you keep Jewish CEO types away from the company!
>>543707224Should Jaoanese pay reparations for drawing themselves as white for decades?
No, Japan should just set-up their own internet that cuts everyone else off desu. Also ban all non-Asian tourism. Simple.
>>543707224I love her so much brehs
>>543717652This. Anime distribution should be directly from Japan. Just hire on more gaijin translators and collaborators to make shit move smoothly, and you can have the entire world watching and paying the producers/studios/etc. directly with combined streaming sites, instead of needing a foreign company like CrunchyRoll. Japan is extremely advanced in sooooo so many ways, and fucking retarded, bullheaded, and medieval in others.
>>543717652Here's the crazy thing too:People like anime, manga, and games made for the japanese audience.So all they have to do is make that shit easier to get, no bullshit TOS, and put a gag on any lolcowlizers who try to put in their faggot politics or meme words.
>>543717659>Should Jaoanese pay reparations for drawing themselves as white for decades?Wrong... They are drawn to look like cats, not Whites.
>>543717643It's not really about selling, but you have like four streaming services having different options. Like who the fuck thought it was a good idea putting Bleach on Disney+?Then you also have the licensing issue with netflix, so you have some shows in one country, but missing a lot of other.Cruncyroll and prime just sucks.Meanwhile for video games you have Steam that has most of the games in one place. And I wish Japan didn't IP block some of their services like their manga platforms.
>>543717707she's a whore
>people unironically asking for direct distributionThat would rape the entire industry because then the 'standards' would be the standards of America and the EU, which are extremely censorious. It's already bad enough as is with the retarded Western attempts to buy their way into regulation.
>>543717788That was the fear, that foreign money would force all anime to just be sanitized Cowboy Bebops over and over. People like anime because it's Japanese, that's why anything western "in anime style" never fucking gets it. The lack the kodawari. The Japanese don't have cynicism for their stuff. Cynicism is how you get Big Mouth.
Steam is also dogshit and has been terribly censorious towards JP devs specifically forever. Western audience is cancer. Better to lose money than have to deal with them. Or just keep on as is, with 'made for the West' product lines to get ez cash etc.
>>543717850Maybe they should have some balls and tell them to eat a bag of dicksMaybe block western shows in return.>Ok so we can't air this anime because it offends some faggot protestant christians and californians?>ok, we'll block friends, stranger things, etc.
Any srs otaku crying about not getting access is also retarded, it's very easy to import and it's cheap. You just don't know Japanese.When things are distributed through Western fronts, it's often still cheaper to import.
>>543717797Sadahiko needs glasses.
>>543717959They won't be able to directly distribute if they break publishing laws anon. You are retarded.
>>543717959>reee how dare these people be tired of troonery!Odd. It's never from the other angle.I wonder what's behind this post.
>>543717614I grew up on alot of anime or movies. feels like everything is force to be made or forced too like it.I hope the creator of Black lagoon makes more. heard he's been being harassed by fake fans.
>>543718007I usually just buy the stuff I want when I'm in Japan, or as you say, import a bunch of stuff to even out the import tax.
>>5437072240/10no tail
>>543717892To be fair to Cowboy Bebop, that anime is fantastic and it stands out for being unique.I think the problem is that people don't understand that Bebop is not the norm in anime .>>543718007>cheap to import lol no>>543718054Oh well, nobody is going to watch western slop anyway, oh and Demon Slayer alone outsold the comic industry.>>543718055>reee how dare these people be tired of troonery!The average prottie christian these days will tolerate troonery if it's "American" or if the troon is "conservative' and "based"Tradcucks are spineless faggots who attack men and only men
>>543707224If they integrate more with global distribution channels it will just lead to lower quality and people will abandon anime.Its already gotten alot worse since crunchyroll and netflix got involved.I like anime because its not like western media. I simply won't watch it if they go all jewish.
>>543718069Parody dragoon ball would rule!
>>543718159Oh, you were calling the larpers christian, i see.Sadly, that doesn't actually change my suspicions. To say nothing of your language choices. Next time, stay the fuck on discord.
>>543716030COPE hirohito was in power throughout the whole 1980s brainlets cannot respond to this
>>543718173I dunno man for me it's tough because I think they should be able to make money but every goddamn industry in entertainment wants to be like the vidya industry and just continuously be the most anti consumer shit out there>>543718236You mad that I called you tradcucks out? You're just as much of a problem as blue hair caliniggers.You started the age verification shit
>>543707224There are a number of anime that are only available in limited countries on streaming services like Crunchyroll. If you refuse to make series blanket available everywhere, you deserve piracy.
>>543718276>actually seethingDude. Holy fucking shit.I'm mocking you for being a bitter bitch that refuses to be more than a useless perversion.I thought narcissists enjoyed talking about themselves.
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>>543716304Remove the veil.Kill the demon.
I will only pay for anime if its on DVD or Blu-ray and is subbed. sorry streamfags
>>543718410yes
>>543718280This. I won t beg you to take my money.
>>543707224I paid for cruncyroll for years, but it's such a shitty service compared to piracy that I stopped a few months ago. Not only do pirate sites offer so much better selection, but they absolutely blow the competition out of the water with an actually usable catalogue and proper subtitles.
>>543718159Bebop is far from the norm and too many people have this weird perception of "back in the day anime was so good". Yeah you had some good shows, but you also had like nothing else to watch most of the year. Anime overall is better now. I will die on that hill. Budgets, source materials, creativity. It's all better. Anything that stood out from the past was a total anomaly. Especially 80s OVAs and movies under the asset bubble economy, which was also literally during the testing out phase for what was even possible. OVAs only began existing in 1983 with Oshii's Dallos, and maybe only matured in 1985 under Megazone 23.
>>543718276I pirate the shows with zero remorse but I do buy merchWhich is where most of their money comes from anyway. If it becomes goyslop because of the international market then I won't be intersted anymore and they will lose merch sales.I believe alot of anime fans are like me in this.
>>543718007Just go to Japan and buy merch and see anime in theaters. I was lucky enough to catch Chou Kaguya Hime! on Screen X, it was fucking amazing. Japanese theaters don't fuck around.
>>543718546>nostalgiafags are dumb>it's better nowIt is exactly the same. The pile of garbage is just deeper.
>>543718069Jane the jeet is pretty hot
>>543718542>it's such a shitty service compared to piracyTHIS!!!!!!!When the free version is vastly superior to the paid version... why pay!??!
>>543717693>Also ban all non-Asian tourism.
>>543718546Personally I half agree with you on thatI like that they are using more source material, but I think anime's animation quality has gone down.I fucking loved Sayonara Lara for going back to the older style and it's great.>>543718615Yeah I agree with that, I do what I can to get merch but it's expensive or in most cases, just nonexistentI did latch on some Lara merch on my orders for the rest of the year but Lara is lacking hard
>>543718546The entire nature of modern production has shifted. Look into database consumption. Your notion that ‘anime is better’ is the result of your addled mind being catered to by scientific nostalgia.
