are we living in the last days of 3D firearm printing /pol/?
>>543717593No but leftists fear guns. They want you powerless. Luigi shot a democrat. See how fast he was caught
3D printed guns are retarded. You can buy a fucking black powder firearm over the Internet, no ID needed.3D printed shit sucks in general. Real men 3D delete the things they need.
they think it's the same as regular printershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEAtg30LYjc
>>543717593The bypass is to manufacture your own 3d printer and CNC machine to make guns in the millions.I am actively learning these skills and will become ungodly levels of wealthy while pissing off California to bypass every law they make legally and there is literally nothing they can do to stop me and now they have created incentives for me to become a manufacturing god of weapons.
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>>543717904Actually as funny as it is, using hand tools does also bypass the entire purpose of the law too.
>>543717593How would the machine know the open source scad code I use and possibly modify is for a gun or gun part?
>>543717593At this point California is just hurting themselves. They will end up paying double for the a neutered 3d printer, meanwhile criminals will just drive 3 hours to Mexico or Nevada or whatever and get what they need.And that's assuming no one releases an unlocked printer with an open source os.
>>543717593You do realize that law is impossible to enforce, right? There's literally no way a 3d printer can look at a file and tell it's a gun part you're trying to make unless you lock out very specific shapes, which means every 3d printer has to come with a library of gun parts to prevent you from making gun parts.
>>543717593This bill, from a technology standpoint, is near impossible to do.This bill, from an enforcement standpoint, is going to be impossible to enforce without absolutely trampling the rights of law-abiding printer users.It's either going to be implemented in the slicer - which most are open source and can easily be patched out (or use an older slicer).ORImplemented in the printer firmware, which is retarded since it's way harder to do checks on g-code than it is to do it on a mesh, and there's even less processing power to its checking, and also can just by bypassed by flashing a different firmware on, or throwing in a marlin/klipper/whatever board.3d printers started as arduinos connected to a bunch of steppers. Some of them (marlin) are essentially still just this.So they will probably try to make modifying your printer in any way illegal, or modifying slicer software illegal.Also, how the fuck is the software going to tell the difference between a "gun part" and a "replacement part for an old cuckoo clock"None of this bill was thought out by someone who actually knows anything about 3d printers.
whatever hardware stops you can be jail broken I bet what a waste of time. Anything can be spoofed ANYTHING
>>543717989The whole point is to document entire manufacturing lines in clouds so that China can easily steal it and copy it.
3d printed guns and all plastic guns are already banned in many states. Same with weight limits on guns too. This is just another "we banned the same thing 6 times look at us"
>>543717593>3D print me a 3D printerproblem solved
>>543718075I'm guessing what's going to happen is printer manufactures will start having a little pop-up that asks you "is this a gun part?" before printing. Purely for a legal liability thing. Since that is basically just as effective as any current "gun part detector" software tech.Either that, or it's going to be some false-positive crazy "ai" bullshit that either runs on your computer, and/OR, something that uploads each and every file you print to the cloud (china). All this is doing is fucking over law-abiding people who aren't printing guns at all, while the actual "criminals" will just jailbreak their printers, use old printers, design parts that don't get detected, etc.Also manufacturing your own gun parts is legal. So fuck that.
>>543717593We're living in the last days of everything nice that remains, and indeed the days after most nice things have already been removed from our lives.>>543718131>impossible to enforce without absolutely trampling the rights of law-abiding printer users.As if they ever gave a fuck about law abiding anyone.
>>543718131You can do it with PLCs but the PLCS won't connect to a cloud reliably or even at all if they are even manufactured anymore so it effectively kills the entire industry startups who use them.Alternative solution is to make custom PLCs which is not impossible.
>>5437175933d printed guns are a meme anyway now 3d printed ammo would be interesting
>>543718131lol silly goythe goal is control not gun control
>>543717593You can make a boomstick 1776 that's is better than some plastic shit.Funny thing is they won't take home made guns at buybacks so it makes you wonder how important so-called ghost guns are to them.
>>543718360>gets shot with a ball of hot-glueI wonder if taufladermaus has done a video with something 3d-printed before. That seems like something he'd try.
>>543718360What there were assembly lines for ammo?
>>543717789>>543717695Kirk was shot with an air pressure pellet gun you can buy at a hardware store with no background check
>3d prints musket
>>543717593California being california. Move to a state that isn't gay and lame
>>543717977and how could you not jailbreak and work around it? this entire mentality is so gross and anti american. they WILL apply it to ai and the entire internet. whites are an anomaly and EVERYOne Else (retards) thinks this makes sense.blacks can have their Glock switch. but whites cant tinker with hobby stuff.
>>543717789>You can buy a fucking black powder firearm over the Internet, no ID needed.yes and in Minecraft many cap and ball revolvers cab have a smokeless powder cartridge cylinder swapped in
>>543718131they will go with a basic template and if you get any close to it it's going to throw a warning, it's probably going to end up affecting more than gun parts at first and straighten up to block every conceivable parts being made for a gun it's not as hard as you think it is since it's a precise design schema for the more important parts they don't actually have to make all the gun unprintable just some specific parts very clear it's going to be used to block more then firearm eventually and the only way it can be done is by having a register of printed parts from the customers it's only a question of time because it come gated by the "cloud" and you don't even have it locally, you need to accept the death of the personal computer who's going to go faster, for now there's a lot of old material but if the memory shortage push past 2030 the old material will increase in value and rarity exponentially it's going to be linked to the digital ID sooner or later and they'll come with anti tampering methods that break warrantythey applied that model to almost everything they call that the napster model I think
>>543718561The problem with California is that they are a port state and hence control a huge amount of political power.
>>543717593I 3D print spoons
>>543718075every file will need scrutinized. which introduces copyright and other controls too.isn't it somewhat regulated now? people sell their designs, how do they prevent you from torrenting or sharing those for free?they've already got some control into it somehow they just want infinity more control
>>543718075>You do realize that law is impossible to enforce, right?won't stop them from spending millions on monitoring and enforcement. just because something is unenforceable doesn't mean that they won't flush as much of your money down the toilet as possible regardless.they'll likely just outright ban the sale of any 3d printer that doesn't require you to upload what you're printing to somebody else's computer to run through a LLM. maybe they'll update the firmware so that any tube that just happens to be the same size as standard bullets fails.
>>543718616Shutting down entire factories for cars because of a possible gunnplant multiple times a day is sure way to get fucked.
>We don't have a standard yet but when we do you better follow it!
>>543718669The software literally won't run off what is essentially less than a dollar store calculator.
>>543718707Yeah, this is just to disrupt the market and push the consequences onto tax payers. They need to be criminally charged as politicians.
>>543718622Fair, I ddi hear about the whole retarded glock ban situation. Never give an inch or you end up like my fucking country. No statistics demonstrating there is no link between legal gun ownership and crime will convince them.
Just cede California to Mexico and let that hunchback jew have them
>>543718780You can literally just kill people in California without charges because you're already walking over dead drug users every day that they can't even tell the difference anymore
>>543718131None of that has ever stopped California before.
>>543718622Eject north mexico from the union
>>543717593holy shit you can just legally buy a musquet in germany kekhttps://www.artax-vorderlader.de/reenactment-waffen/steinschlossmuskete/
>>543717789shalom
Does anyone remember the microstamping fiasco?>California passes law 15 or so years ago requiring certain new guns for sale to have microstamping technology>Concept is that a serial number is stamped on the primer of a fired cartridge >Technology sorta kinda works in theory but not in practice>Also it's proprietary so 1 guy now has a legal monopoly>But he's not making money because 0 gun manufacturers are willing/able to do this>To this date there are 0 guns on the market anywhere with microstamping techThis 3D printer ban sounds extremely similar.
>>543718671yeah I was talking about the consumer market factories aren submitted to those kind of rules you can really stop a machinist from making a gun if he really want to and know how pretty much the same they use the gun printing as an excuse to regulate the consumer market mainly I believe
It's just so easy to buy a gun in most parts of the US its the most nmp you can have today
>>543719009>you can't* really stop a machinist from making a gun if he really want to and know how
>>543718707Pro-first amendment groups are also expected to challenge this in court, usually because other Jew-run states automatically push the same bullshit laws that California does.
>>543719030Californian cops will literally sell you off roster guns
California mandates becoming foreign while constantly trying to disarm everyone.Seems like a standardized platform. Disarm everyone while flooding them with invaders. As the invaders then commit violence double down on the need to disarm everyone for their safety.Canada just did this as a speed run.The UK had done it.
>>543717593how hard would it be to just make your own printer? Youve got all the parts.
>>543718075>raid a triad trap house >find a 3d printer in it that is making illegal parts>sue the 3d printer company into oblivion for not enforcing the law on its users>all other 3d printer companies have to start surveilling their users and requiring their 3d printers to be always onlineFreedom
>>543718847No need to tell me anything about anarcho tyranny, gang affiliated gun smugglers bring them by the truckload and get house arrests and probations while an autistical nechanical engineer gets the book thrown at him. During his court case he had to denounce a 36 year old mass shooting every liberal politician brings up Every. Single. Time. to justify gun bans.
>>543719126They have disarm tbe population because foreign governments are probably paying them under the table to rebel and having an active militia counter rebelling is less than ideal, but chances are they are even conning the foreign powers out of money to do everything because it's super half assed.
>>543719263Won't put it passed leftists to pass it. They hate freedom unless its freedom to rape kids
>>543718487I wasn't aware of this conspiratardery. Kirk was shot with a Mauser chambered in .30-06, an extremely powerful round designed for long range and precision, which is used routinely for hunting big game.
Guns are bad because only the government is allowed to murder and use violence. A really convincing argument.
>>543717593This is illegal anyway because courts have ruled that building your own firearms is legal.
>>543719490Yes, but can you afford to be innocent?
>>543719263Notice how anon specifically said "triad"Because:Nigs are too retarded to into 3d printing.andNigs are already exempt from crackdowns on illegal gun parts (giggle switches, dracos, etc).This law is only going to ever be used against white and asian people.
>>543719527Yes, Black people don't have many but that's kind of the point, it works against Black criminals. Still it is a thing, just not enough since California only wants armed black criminals as their militia.
>>543717806Its perfectly legal to create weapons, however it is extremely FEDERALLY illegal to sell the weapons you create. You know that right?No, of course you didn't.
>>543719419>shot in a piece of flesh with no bones with a 'powerful hunting cartridge'>round doesn't even exit his necknobody's buying this bullshit, you kikes should have tried this in an all female country like israel or india if you wanted anyone to believe it. it would have definitely worked in mexico too.
>>543719751No it's not, it regulated you fucking retarded, you need a license.Not everyone is utterly incapable of starting a business or working for one like you.
>>543717989we're already doing that in cali wali with actual firearms. all my glocks cost me about 1,000 dollars each and they're all 20 year old models because anything newer is at least double that and can only be purchased second hand.
>>543719751>> it's illegal to sell _____Is it illegal if _____ is stolen and replaced with something of like value?On a regular basis... Usually overnight... And I keep making it because it's a hobby?
No. California is a containment state.
>>543718992That's 3D printed?
>>543719419tardery as in I'm retarded? go to hell pajeet. the reason they're flooding the world with you retards is because you're too stupid to understand the world around you.
>>543720004It's illegal because it's no longer a right, checkmate gun nuts
>>543719802he's using ai. which is actually indians.it's designed for retards like him to blend in. but only works on other retards. Artificial intelligence is starting to be like artificial breasts. everyone knows you're using it but I guess no one has the heart to burst their delusions? it doesn't look natural.
>>543719751>Its perfectly legal to create weaponsNot according to California in the OPYou guys do this all the timeIt's as bad as when lefties do the "no u"It's an NPC halmark
>>543720181Time to start gassing anti gun nigs
>>543719802there are threads in the archive that solved it but I didn't save them. presumably they WANT us to know. it's incredibly brazen but I guess makes them feel even more invincible?even normal people saw it was fuckyhttps://youtu.be/b1bQBO_puyQthis hijacking too. only works on scared jewish women which I guess was the target audience. or else they really just think we're irrelevant now. that it doesn't matter we can see them.
>>543719932incorrect.>>543719751correct.
>>543720353>else they really just think we're irrelevant nowOr they don't actually work and just con everyone
>>543717593>are we living in the last days of 3D firearm printing /pol/?No, we are living in the last days of California.
>>543719802Havent seen the vid but ballistics can be a crapshoot and depends on multiple factors like ammo (I wouldn't have put it past him to not know the difference between an FMJ and a soft point) as well as which parts of the neck were hit. I'd say its quite unlikely but its not beyond any reasonable doubt. The sheer lethality is quite convincing though. The Dawson shooting had someone tet blasted through the head with a 9mm PCC twice and live.
>>543719932oh. to sell? yeah. to make? no.
>>543720353they want people to know, because they need an antisemitism scare to push all jews back into israel. i forgot why though, i think it's related to the third temple or the antichrist or something jewish.
The issue they see is that, 3D printers aren’t what they once were 10 years ago, they have 3D printers that print in aluminum or even steel,making printing a lower receiver to any firearm easy as shit. Those printers are still a bit too costly atm, I think like 20k for a cheap used one, but still,
>>543720385>IncorrectStop wasting my time with weak bait and get to the point.
How though? I have to upload my part somewhere for AI to scan it? I'll jailbreak that piece of shit the first week I got it. Or drive one in from NV or AZ.
>>543720458see>>543720500
>>543720402do you think it was Hollywood nogunz incompetence? that they just had no idea?apparently the several point bonus they have in verbal came at the cost of spatial.is it "chutzpah"?
>>543720551Hollywood actually gets fully automatic weapons in California for movie production
>>543717695Omg do something please.
>>543720456that's normal, some sand nigger went on a rampage in my city at the beginning of the year with a glock 26 and shot one of the cops he was engaged with in the head, and the guy still managed to fight him off until some other cops came in and killed him, though that shot was admittedly through the windshield of a Ford Explorer. this is why i also keep a 10mm subcompact pistol as well as my 9mms.
offline 3d printers exists and you can make zip guns with basic tools. Fuck jews, here you can find some good diy stuff and more. It goes without saying, but don't download anything on windows, the OS will automatically scan every single archive in your SSD.https://archive.org/details/@warrior_resources
The opposite is true, firearms design will be completely liberalisedEven the practical difficulty of ammunition might evaporate - we might live to see home DIY coil guns and lethal airguns
>>543718992Didn't that nigga get swatted and killed?
>>543719008what prevents it from working?
>>543717806They'll give you a drink of water and you'll die of a heart attackHappened to a German YouTuber
>>543720731I work for Darpa, it would be an act of war.
>>5437175933d printing hype is a red herring. If you can't run a lathe you don't have a gun no matter much 3d printing you have, unless you count homemade cqc shit like the guy used to kill abe.
>>543720465I heard a rabbi excited about the purin attack because it meant the rest were probably true and that in 15 years "all thinfs would come to pass" (and they'd be back in israeI)so I guess that's the timeline, and seems legit. 5800 on their calendar is in 13 years2033 on our calendar seems like a moshaich/antichrist date.
>>543717989California pretty much controls what multinationals sell to the entire US. My wife is a product developer at a food company and the products she designs for the US market all have to adhere to Californian laws, they don't make separate Cali-only products
>>543720588the thing about law abiding gun owners is that they are law abiding. if you want the elite dead you are just going to have to legalize it. simple as.
>>543720841That's going to be what the Republicans tell everyone when California over plays it's hand and fucks half the nation, destroying their own party.
>>543720783you are wrong, the Myanmar rebels are fielding 3d printed guns like the fgc-9 in great numbers. It's basically a cheap 9mm smg (with rifled barrel and all) which will last hundreds of rounds. it's not that different to something like a Sten.
>>543717593It's going to get kicked to the Supreme Court, guaranteed
>>543720128Yes. And that's 10 year ago. Everything has improved.
>>543718131>>543718075>durr they can't enforce itThey will. They're going to SWAT everyone who visits a guncad site and then seize their illegal computer files and illegal 3d printer and illegal plastic filament. The technology doesn't need to work. They will shoot your dog just the same.
>>543720584then hire female nepo teenagers who mix up blanks with live and don't know the first thing about gun safety>AR47 can fire 800 rounds a second>the wind from a 50 Cal can rip someone's shoulder off from three feet away
>>543717989Stop parroting the propaganda. 3D printing isn't used in crime. Blacks, the primary source of gun crime, aren't 3D printing shit. They just get clean gang members to buy all their shit from stores, or get it from other states. And even then illegal manufacturing comes from the Philippians. ATF isn't going to touch ANY of that because it's black crime, and black crime is legal to Democrats. The REAL reason for all this shit is to track the smart whites with spyware because it requires all the printers to phone home if bad prints are being used. This is the groundwork for laying down IP laws to prevent repair work via 3D printing so that corpo Jews can enforce enshitification and planned obsolescence. Yeah Soros - the guy funding it all - cares about being assassinated, but it's really a cover for corpo Jews to enforce their humiliation rituals on the public.
>>543720584They did.Technically still exempt but in practice realguns are rare to prevent the death of an actor costing a studio millions when a movie cannot be finished.Most movies use fake guns since Brandon Lee died in The Crow.Except for rare scenes where a gun must be disassembled or otherwise show detail beyond being fired.You gotta be a big shot to get the required insurance coverage for production to use real guns.Rust produced outside Hollywood has probably made it even worse after that death.
>>543720952https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Leehttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp86rrld6dyo
>>543720456>haven't seen the videowow thanks for weighing in. you won't watch this one either then >>543720353
>>543720916You're the stupid mother fucker who doesn't seem to know they have metal working capability and can make barrels on a lathe. No one 3d prints the chamber and locking lug for a 9mm round, or any caliber for that matter.
>>543717789So why ban them?
>>543718320Programmable logic controller?
>>543720869>>Law says I can rape tour daughter and 200 billion to IsraelYou (a Israel pretending to be Canadian) sadly nothing we can do.The meme is so fucking accurate.
>>543721065You can, but microcontrollers are superior. PLCs are way more basic though and easier to make.
>>543718075>You do realize that law is impossible to enforce, right?That was explained IN DEPTH by dozens of knowledgeable 3d printing nerds during every hearing they had. The snakes voted for it anyway.They KNOW. They DON'T CAREEven IF the tech were actually capable, it's still a violation of several Constitutional Rights. And they ALL voted for it anyway. It's all based on lies anyway. You can make "ghost" guns from parts available at Home Depot. You have a Constitutional Right to MAKE these parts at home on a 3d printer. Its NOT "just" about guns. It goes way deeper than that. And every part of it is a violation of our Constitutional Rights. It's primarily about ghost DRONES and making your own DRONE PARTS. But they don't say that because its not what the Soccer Moms care to listen about.
>>543721053go read the FGC-9 mk2 manual, the bolt is made from metal, but you don't need a lathe. There's even a 3d printed smg called the nutty 9 which uses nuts for the bolt assembly. And there's .22lr guns which are all plastic (except springs and the like). They will last for a dozen of rounds or so, more than enough to kill someone to get a better gun.
>>543717695so, was that ruthless insurance company ceo a dem voter? are democrats in the us money hungry?
>>543721192You really have to go out of your way to make a gun like that in the USA, even felons can just get made or stolen guns way easier.
>>543720690he got swatted, but they didn't find anything, and we was let go. Then he randomly died to a heart attack in right after visiting his parents, while in their driveway.
>>543720128yes almost all of it except for the barrel and some small shit like springs or something. >>543720690iirc he was arrested then mysteriously died while in custody
>>543717593this is so retarded, they tried the same with scanners scanning US money. money are identical and this can have identifiers, how the fuck do you prevent printer from printing a gun?
>>543718075WRONG! Your 3D printer shall phone home about ALL parts and it will all be checked against a database or some AI agent will be used, and if you dare use a copyrighted item you will be fined. Because gun parts are literal cylinders for some bits, ALL parts will need to be submitted for Governmental Review. Govt agents (AI or jeet) will determine if your cylinder is illegal or not. This way they can claim it's for "safety" while trampling your rights. >>543718131>trampling the rightsThat is the actual point. They want to check everything you print for IP and other shit they can fine. And if it's unique, it will be "hacked" and sent to China. This isn't stupidity, it's malice. (Especially since we know who is behind all these 3d printer laws)The Nerf boys aren't going to like this either. All of their shit is gonna be tagged as illegal. For both "firearms" and IP violations. Govt ((kikes)) really really really do not like you being able to print shit on your own. They want to suppress them, not enable them. That is why making it impossible is GOOD for them. Oh, you can't jump through our impossible red tape? Too bad, no printing for you. Get fucked goy.
>>543717593AI robots will be able to build firearms. The progress is exponential. Progress cannot stop because of China. AI cannot be controlled. Checkmate.
>>543718131>Also, how the fuck is the software going to tell the difference between a "gun part" and a "replacement part for an old cuckoo clock"There's been a ton of reports of people utilizing this tech and getting FALSE POSITIVES on things like artificial eyes (like a fake implant just so you don't have to wear an eyepatch, not an actual bionic eye), flashlight parts, etc.EVEN IF they got the tech implemented, the amount of false positives are going to be a major bitch. Who is ANYONE to tell you what you can or can not print especially when they're wrong on what it is to begin with?What is a knife? Am I using it to cut my steak (yes) or to harm someone (no)? They cannot determine INTENT. They judge you guilty without any possibility of appeal.WHERE is the ability for redress? Who do you appeal to when the AI thinks wrongly that you're printing a gun part when it's not?This whole thing is SO fucking gross and total bullshit.
>>543718360Ammo still needs to be assembly line made at home, just because the powder product is explosive/flammable. So you need to combine the 4 bits together separately. For cartridge based ammo. Lead shot and black powder can be made at home with a forge setup and proper molds. Though the feds won't be happy with you making BP, much less any modern smokeless powder.
>>543721192I'll accept that concession, without metal work the shit ain't happening.
>>543718561>Move to a state that isn't gay and lameThey get this trash passed in the major Blue states then use that power to implement it NATIONALLY. You REALLY think this shit won't make it to Canada, Saar?
>>543718622Cuttoff the commifornian ports and reroute through the great state of Jefferson
>>543719080>Pro-first amendment groups are also expected to challenge this in court,It's been law in Colorado already, still waiting for this to happen.
>>543717806>Pepes artisanal slightly used 3d printed 3d printers>Always in stock, we printed millions of them try and prove otherwise >A 3d printed 3d printer registry you say, we'll sign up this roll of filament for 6million serials >Gun violence somehow increases in direct correlation to an increase in future doctors and lawyers, the 3d printer 3d printing gun printing guns ban evaders caused this of course.
>>543721748You can't sell the 3d printers, you have to make them as a contractor or employee for the company or person.
>>543718413I think he has. Most things are machined (being metal), but he's used oddball things in a few. This thing looks vaguely 3D printed:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmR3RYATxkoBouncy balls:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNqDgDBsFuMSomeone just needs to send in some 3d printed shit with a sabot interior or something.
>>543721581Yeah, a couple of guys with heavy bulldozers could shut down the entire state without any deaths for a few weeks.
>>543721380>They want to check everything you print for IP and other shit they can fine.That's a violation of Fair Use. I have a legal right to make anything I want for PERSONAL USE. For IP, it's illegal to SELL but not illegal to make. And it's nobody's business to intervene. For example, if they tried to implement a counter for how many you printed, are you fucked if your print fails? Or breaks?I just recently printed for my own personal use a vehicle from Battlestar Galactica that probably would have falsely triggered the AI claiming it was a gun part (it's not). Near the end of the print I had terrible z-wobble so I need to reprint one section. I'm not going to put up with being accused of jack shit because I want to make a stupid toy for myself at home. This entire bullshit is going to really harm the younger generation of kids who want to tinker with and learn things like CAD, and will put them far behind the H1B visa holders. It's so fucking asinine.
>>5437207003d printers are basically just like normal computer printers outside some run on microSD cards completely internet free. That means if they want no gun prints, there are 2 options:1. Printer recognizes it as gun parts and automatically says no. This exists in modern printers where it recognizes money and won't copy it. But unlike money, gun bits are all over and not documented, nor have the special patterns that identify them as such. -- This is the "tech solution" that they need first. Some program that auto-identifies gun bits. 2. They force an internet connection and it phones home to the state each print and the state approves it / disapproves it. State then makes database of disapproved parts. This is sort of a "gun ban list" blue states use, but expanded to parts. This just means all CA printers must use internet and must use a CA govt site. Given the law seems to want path 1, that means someone has to STEAL gun intellectual property to make a database (if no capital). Because no fucking gun maker is gonna provide them with IP for free. And that means some Chud SF techbro will have to pony up millions for IP from gunmakers to make a database of banned parts. Now once made, CA can then pay billions to the techbro for the software, and then it can be forced into all CA compliant printers for $1000s per printer so CA can make that money back they lost to a techbro. And if a techbro steals the gun IP, CA is gonna be class action sued into the ground the second they touch that database. All of this is nonsense since you need to machine metal firearms parts to get to a real gun. 3D printing metal is still emerging tech, we're still worried about voids and such causing fatigue failures. Which is a big BOOM when in a firearm. You know, the "put a thumb in it" kind of boom. No one is gonna print an entire firearm. Replacement parts for grips and shit? Yeah, but those don't make the BOOM. The metal does.
Also, why would they worry about "untraceable" ghost guns when they have Flock cameras everywhere?
>>543722387my question was in reply to microstamping not 3d printing.that looks like an effortpost though so thanks I guess
>>543718360Defense distributed had an entire tutorial on making ammo start to finish, but it is a crazy amount of work. The solution I have been thinking of is if it is possible to raise the chamber pressure on Tippmann's propane marker system. An at least semi automatic firearm that could fling .35-.50 caliber projectiles above 850fps that requires no primers/casing/powder manufacture would be an absolute game changer for any kind of insurgency. Possibly with 3D printed sabot waddings? Insert Hank Hill memes as required.
>>543717593Last days of 3d printing and local AI
>>543722387People aren't machining their own barrels, you just get a spare parts kit.
>>5437230022 more weeksyou won't do shitcome and take them bitch
>>543722967Best bet really is finding some way to increase energy density of electrical storage or some other way around that, then just focus on gauss/coil weapons. Obviously some serious energy density and conduction gains need to be made but this seems like the most likely path other than direct energy weapons.
>>543721209A majority of CEOs are democrats
Which part of the 3D printer is the 3D printer? The upper or the lower? The motherboard or the extruder?
>>543723728Kek
>>543717593Won't this be easily undone with AI code?
>>543721704>>543719080>Pro-first amendment groups are also expected to challenge this in courtThrown out of court because they lack standing because they haven't been prosecuted for unregistered 3d printing.All the challenges to illegal voting gets thrown out because you can't challenge the law before or during an election, because it hasn't happened yet, and you can't challenge after the election because the court won't grant relief. There are lots of ways to abuse the legal system.
Doesnt it make so much sense why they would deindustrialize us?
>>543723970No because they're going to ban intelligence next
>>543717593They'd have to ban 3d printers entirely. Any control they put on 3D firearm prints can be bypassed by simply cutting an identified firearm part into multiple separate pieces that are later slotted back together. You can even add random supports or breakaway pieces to obscure whatever algorithm they cook into the slicing software (assuming you're not using free open source alternatives that don't have this nonsense).
>>543717593literally unenforceable.
>>543717593There isn't even a way to do this. Do they think somebody is going to label their stuff gun_prt1.stl? It's not my thing, but thinking they could somehow stop it is an absolute waste of money and time.
>>5437210533dp bagels are a thing and I've made plenty of them in meinkraft>>543721234I may or may not be in california and I may or may not have made plenty of arms without a lathe and without buying a factory barrel. There is so much misinformation in this thread. 3 d printed guns are not only viable, they've been obsolete for years. Even if it were possible to ban certain files from the printer we've had ghost robotics for over a decade. People are worried about getting shot by a ghost gun, when we've had crowdsourced weaponry and DIY drone strike capabilities all this time. We even have 3DP AT capabilities. just wait until you see the technology paired with AI. Home depot sells firearms in the form of d.I.Y. Kits, ammo included. If you're worried, stock up on printers now , but they can't stop the signal.
>>543717593You can quite literally fabricate a gun in your garage by hand. No law any government imposes is going to erase the knowledge of 10th century tech lmao. That's the beauty of the gun. They're SO fucking simple, so basic, yet they've stuck around for a millennium, and are still going strong.
>>543717593>Print chamberforgun.stlDamn. Popup. Not allowed to print guns.Hmmm...rename file. Chamberfogon.stl>printOh its printing now.
>>543725457The government stopped buying my 3dp funs in meinkraft. The next batch will be pine and steel. It's amazing what you can do with a band saw and a drill.
>>543721209>>543723448The ACA was one of the biggest handouts to health insurance companies.
>>543717593>existing machines are exemptThere must be hundreds of thousands already in CA, doesn't seem like an issue.
>>543720465Well that make sense, I seem all though details are a bit hazy that there has been during or shortly after the formation of Israel the precursor of the mossad did literal terrorism against other jews in I think Jordan or syria. The goal was to coax jews into moving into Israel where then they'd be safe.So considering this precedent and also considering the ambition of 'greater Israel', it does call for more jewish colonist settlers. I mean what good is doing a landgrab if you don't have sufficient people to seed it with right?So stirring up some shit in our countries(in our case for instance pro-gazan sentiments are resulting in lots of jewish oy veys. And centuries of jewing made them keenly aware when it is precisely time to cash in their chips and move on. usually this coincides with when they know the jig is up .unfortunately considering how much wealth this cohort has in the USA it might trigger a financial collapse the like we haven't seen before when they truly make their exodus, so keep an eye on them when they flee the sinking ship.
>>543723358Have you actually seen home made gauss weapons? They generate less muzzle energy than air rifles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwHRjgVWFnoThe EMG-02 coilgun delivers up to 20 Joules of muzzle energy per shot, which is comparable to low-end air rifles. While the single-shot energy is 20J, the device is capable of delivering a total output power of 266 Joules per second when firing at its maximum rate of 8 rounds per second.This is not the way. Something using a replicatable combustion chamber using an available fuel mixture that only requires commonly accessible materials like high pressure tubing and plasma spark plugs is. If not than the best bet is PVC compound bows to fight your way to a real gun.
>>543717593No, it's not like a law and some lines of code stop people from modifying their printer to remove or otherwise render inoperable the code that recognizes the print directions are a gun.
>>543717593>You can legally build a firearm with anything but a 3D printer.Why, again?This just seems more like horse shit to force through legislation to protect parts manufacturers from people making replacements at home, by tying it to guns, since gun parts take on various shapes to various uses (and because they hate guns; two birds with one stone).
>>543717593>run by chicoms and kikes>full of east and West Indians>all of them gayThe great state of California must be cleansed.
>>543721004>This is the groundwork for laying down IP laws to prevent repair work via 3D printing so that corpo Jews can enforce enshitification and planned obsolescence.This. Why the fuck are you legally allowed to manufacture a gun by any other means, but 3D printing is different? Because guns aren't the primary focus (for now), it's more about taking people's abilities and rights away to make their own shit and replacement parts.
>>543718564>in MinecraftThis doesn't work anymore. Why dilute legal discussion with it in the first place? If you're a legal gun owner then getting the cylinder replacement really isn't worth it at $500, not to mention that you need to disassemble the gun to reload it. Just buy a normal gun. If you don't have your gun rights, then knowing how to make and use paper cartridges is plenty fine.>inb4 a random brasslet comments on antiquated firearmsI can hit a bullseye at 100 yards with my Traditions percussion Kentucky Rifle. Work on your aim.
>>543727455>checkedGreat reading comprehension you fucking retard.
>>543717977Always online AI horseshit or something. Meanwhile you will just bring in a non-faggifornia compliant machine anyways
>>543721004This. Today its guns, tomorrow its Pinkerton niggers showing up cause you 3d printed your 40k minis
>>543717593Racists don't want Mexicans to have a 2nd amendment without tracking!?!
>>543717593nigger theyre stl files.coordinates on a 3d graph/chart/planeits not>Okay, computer. Run "print gun.exe"
>>543730483It does not matter if the software doesn't exist. What matters is that they'll get a warrant and raid your house because you downloaded a STL. Don't worry about the court case because they'll just shoot you while you lay in bed.
>>543717593They are using 3d printing firearm parts as a excuse to regulate 3d printing because overpriced manufacturing of plastic shit is at risk of being replaced by 3d printing services.Wait until 3d print shops open and you can just bring in the bumper to a car and they scan it and print it for you for cost of material + usage.A 3,000 dollar replacement bumper is now 500-700 dollars. Many super cars started to cheap out on plastic. Im sure a replacement cup holder is 700 dollars but a 3d printed one to pretty much exact specifications is 40 dollars.
They gutted the law so hard it doesn't do anything. The ASTM has already said this is nothing something they are looking into, so the law just fizzles out in 2029 with little fanfare. Of course, they will introduce bills to constantly push the deadline back like faggots, but the law literally does nothing because the ASTM has already said the ask is retarded and impossible.
>>543718360Wouldn't even be needed with the next generation of firearms. Manufacturers have been trying to build weapon systems with caseless ammo. Imagine a bullet, powder, and a binder that keeps the powder together.Brass is more expensive that a lead/copper bullet and powder. Also it leaves nothing behind. You wouldn't need a casing extraction system. Just feeding
>>543730718It's basically the same thing with California demanding they add age verification to Linux. Good fucking luck, retards
>>543730718Bloomberg is amazing at forcing through retarded and nonsense laws. The stop and frisk thing in NY was his own creation because he woke up one day and realized that a angry goy might shoot him on the street so cops should be stop/searching anyone who looks poorer than him. They'd put metal detectors and airport scanners at the corner of ever sidewalk with AI processing it if they could. They'd put GPS trackers into all forms of ID. They already sort of have it but it requires certain cell towers to track.
>>543718131ACTUALLYThe bill is completely contingent on a third party organization finding a technology that works for this purpose, as validated by another third party organization.The bill is passed, pending the technology is feesible. This, of course, is insane and won't go through because neither group will be able to make or find a technology that meets the standard of the law BUT what's even more insane is we're at pre-legislation.
>>543730942It will be possible when they start loading hardware with easy to use backdoor that requires some sort of constant authorization from the OS to continue running.Ohh, you're using Linux and not Windows? Verify your identity or we will block the OS from booting. Future of tech is raped.
>>543717593I think the hubub about 3D printers "making guns" is just ridiculous, can't even make the most important parts of a firearm with it while mills and lathes have been quietly making unregistered off the books homemade functioning firearms for forever now.
