There's virtually 0% chance that taiwan stays an independent country for the next 50 years It would require: 1) the Taiwanese aggressively choosing independence over assimilation into China2) the USA immediately, whole heartedly entering into total war with Chinaneither of which would EVER happen. The Taiwanese are basically chinese. they all go to china every year to buy shit. They associate with Chinese when they travel abroad. 90% of taiwanese would naturally choose assimilation over complete destruction of their country.And the USA simply couldn't even imagine going to war with China over Taiwan. The US people are so distant from Taiwan, so culturally distinct, they couldn't give less of a fuck about the place. To the average American Taiwan may as well be Rwanda with semiconductors. Going to war... for them? unimaginable. Even if they *did* want to defend them... both the USA and China are far, far too rational, too careful to risk such a devastating catastrophy that a war between two great powers would be. True total war between us would honestly be World War 3. The destruction would be maybe 10x more severe than the destruction of europe in WW2. And again... all for Taiwan? Not possible. at all.
>>543717777>The Taiwanese are basically chinese. they all go to china every year to buy shit. They associate with Chinese when they travel abroad. 90% of taiwanese would naturally choose assimilation over complete destruction of their country.The vast majority of Taiwanese have absolutely no interest in becoming Chinese. Especially true for younger people. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2024/02/23/2003813976
>>543717777>50 yearsThe CCP won't last a yearhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UltVl2Qlf6A&pp=0gcJCYsCo7VqN5tD
>>543718884>implying they will have a choice
I hope that guys son gets turned in to a puddle of mush from catastrophic pressure loss.
Chinese cucks like you will never invade and the chinese birthrate is already low as fuck, sending their dwindling youth population to get nuked in wartime would be the most nigger retarded move the chinese could possibly make.
>>543720249Why would China go to war when they've seen it work poorly for the US and Russia? I don't think the gender imbalance or lack of stable careers is enough of a push considering how drawn out modern wars can become and how much civillian lives are affected. They will just wait however long assimilation takes, even if its over a century.
>>543718884They can die for their independence then. I wont die for theirs
>>543720249There is only one landing zone and the chinese do not have the capability to take it, hence the political pressure on the kmt to peacefully join china.>>543720287Definitely but since you're chinese, I hope you know a war with china means you all get mulched like you deserve.
>>543720582>China has no way to conquer a nation that depends on them for all food and logistics, and which is entirely within range of their air force and SRBMs>A nation which China encircles in biannual naval drills to no response>whose population overwhelmingly vote to not be annexed but also overwhelmingly state they would not fight if the matter went to war.>Whose military is entirely above ground>Whose sole economic relevance will be taken from them in less than five years by the mainland
>>543720582I'm Whiter than you and more of a patriot than your kike loyalist ass can ever hope to be.
>>543717777Depends what the leader after xi thinks. That bro is on his last leg.
>>543717777>There's virtually 0% chance that taiwan stays an independent country for the next 50 yearsthe 1st has already happened and the 2nd is obviously not necessaryop is a faggot
>>543723856>2nd is obviously not necessary...?you think taiwan can really defend themselves against china?
>>543717777And you gotta remember, this is from the same propaganda organs as the drivel you hear out of Ukraine. Which means there's literally zero scenarios where China doesn't win. >>543718884Also muttoid shills like these have no idea about what Taiwan or China looks like, they've never been to either (they don't even own a passport, kek). Taiwan is a very poor nation compared to China (it looks even worse since the Chinese coast next to them is full of tier one cities), the Taiwanese, especially the young ones, see this and ask themselves why they're remaining a poor shithole producing chips for the west instead of enriching themselves.Taiwan has done nothing but slide closer to China over the years, and that has only accelerated recently.
>And the USA simply couldn't even imagine going to war with ChinaMuttmerica loves to go to war.It's their national sport.
>>543717777China sucks. No one wants to be a part of China.>Tibet didn't want to join China.>The Uyghurs didn't want to join China.>Hong Kong didn't want to join China.>Taiwan doesn't want to join China.China is a mob family (the communist party) pretending to be a country.
>>543727044>Tibet didn't want to join China.China is the only country who can protect Tibet from the europeans and their pajeet henchmen.
>>543728342That's like having a murderer protect you from a rapist.
>>543717777>My son's life!Get less retarded son
>>543720447>Chinese are cucks because they don't flood their country full of immigrants like mine to increase the birth rate!Good goy
>>543728487Not really, they are the same race.It would be like if Africa invaded ireland to loot all their potato treasures, and now England is maintaining the security of Ireland so Africa can no longer invade them again.You're a seething Mutt because anexing Tibet right now is too dificult for you.
>>543717777Nice get.Have you heard of a country called Japan?They're making sub-2nm chips right now.Fujitsu has already produced a processor design for the fab.TSMC will be obsolete in just a few years.https://global.fujitsu/en-global/pr/news/2026/09/14-02
>>543717777Yes. They will return and take back the mainland probably not too far down the road.
Blood is thicker than trendy politics. Both are chinks, and as China continues improving, and the US continues declining, Taiwanese young men won't choose to die for the financial gain of western powers, gay sex, trans rights, and feminism, over uniting with people that look, speak, and behave like them. At the absolute worst case for China, both remain separate, but eventually ally. The hostility only existed due to butthurt chinks being ousted from power, it won't carry throughout the generation once the rulers who lost and their children slowly die off or become irrelevant. Expecting Taiwan to stay an American puppet is like expecting the Shah to rule Iran again, it's beyond wishful thinking, and the only reason it was possible in the first place was due to how weak the countries were at the time. That's no longer the case, they clearly can defend their interest now, and won't grovel while Americans strip them of everything chasing a quick buck.
>>543728771>Have you heard of a country called Japan?They are thieves who used money to put their servants in charge of the governmnet in Taiwan.And now said government is helping the japs steal Taiwan's secrets.
>>543717777Why Chinese bot act like this?
>>543728953Wew lad, commie who steals everything (no private property) accuses others of stealing. Softbank spent a fuckton of money to bring in the equipment. Japan is buying their way to dominance, because Japan has the one thing the US never will. Competent + cheap labor.
>>543729228>Softbank spent a fuckton of money to bring in the equipmentThe Japs didn't steal the equipment, their stole the secret methods of how to use the quipments and the list of ingredients in the process.
>>543724358NOOOO THAT DOESNT FALL WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTED NARRATIVES NOOOOOO>t. shill
>>543729366cly me a liver kim
>>543729483That's a lot of worthless robots, Mutt.
>>543729609see how easy that was everyone>you stole it>>for the sake of argument, okay, but you've stolen far more>heh, look how much we stole from you!and your moral high ground just washed away like a chinese city downstream of the three gorges dam
>>543720582Why do you think it would be a Normandy landing type of situation? All China would have to do is to blockade the island until they sign a treaty
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>>543729770>stole from you!Those Chinese robots were purchased. They don't need any secret ingredients to produce something.The Jap thieves needed to steal TSMC's secret methods, otherwise they would be just as bad as Samsung.
>>543724358Been to both China and Taiwan. Unlike you.> Taiwan has done nothing but slide closer to China over the years, and that has only accelerated recently.Current President William Lai is the most anti-China President ever elected.> Taipei, July 2 (CNA) Taiwan's Mainland Affairs Council (MAC) has said the country's economic dependence on China is at a historic low, while Beijing on Thursday rejected that assessment and insisted that cross-strait economic ties remain close.> The agency said Taiwan's exports to China and Hong Kong as a share of its total exports declined from 43.9 percent in 2020 to 26.6 percent in 2025.> The share of Taiwan's total outbound investment going to China also fell steadily from a peak of 83.8 percent in 2010 to 3.8 percent in 2025 and further to 0.9 percent in the first five months of 2026, MAC said.> China cut off official cross-strait communication channels with Taiwan in June 2016.> Continuation Under Lai: This freeze on government-to-government dialogue has extended to current Taiwanese President Lai Ching-te, whom Beijing also labels a separatist.> The percentage of people identifying strictly as "Chinese" has plummeted to record lows under 3% This is roughly equivalent to saying that America and Iran have been slider closer together and that has only been accelerating recently. Couldn’t be more wrong.
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>>543730538>Current President William Lai is the most anti-China President ever elected.He evacuated all of TSMC's secrets to the japs, his motherlandhttps://i.4cdn.org/pol/1791075866285781.pngIn 2 decades the Taiwan province will be poverty stricken and depend on China.
>>543720857>>Whose military is entirely above groundA key factor in the new war meta most people overlook.
>>543729939Blockades works so well against hordes of millions of cheap drones. Naval power is worthless now until someone makes something that can take on swarms of drones for days or even weeks.Even the Hourthis and Iranians are keeping the US fleet at a 'standoff distance'. I'm sure the Chinese fleets are even more vulnerable.
>>543728635>demanding tribute from the defeated nation is an absurdity.really tired of historically illiterate retards commenting.
>>543731128>demanding tribute from the defeated nationIt's a bad thing to be invaded and defeated.That's why Tibet needs China more than ever. Because of evil shitstains like you.Is it any wonder that you're seething right now because China makes it too dificult for you to repeat the act?
>>543728925>The hostility only existed due to butthurt chinks being ousted from power, it won't carry throughout the generation once the rulers who lost and their children slowly die off or become irrelevant.This is perfectly incorrect. The only people who still think of themselves as primarily Chinese and are open to discussing reunification are the people who lost the civil war and their immediate children. The people replacing them as they all die off, those who have no direct connection at all to the mainland, are the same ones who have absolutely no interest in unifying with China.
>>543730538It's dumb to refer to themselves as Taiwanese. Actual Taiwanese Aborigines are Taiwanese. Ethnically Chinese people living in the Republic of China are Chinese. That's how nomenclature works.
>>543731260>those who have no direct connection at all to the mainlandYou mean the 98% who are fron Fujian province in MAinland?
>>543731317That’s literally not how it works.
>>543731333Yes. Those whose ancestors came from Fujian hundreds of years. They have not had a have a direct connection to the mainland since the Ming or Qing Dynasty.
>>543731448That's how it works Mutt.You can plant some Japs into their government, but as soon as the japs loot all of tscm's secrets, the province would have no more future prosperity.
>>543731448Yes, it literally is.
>>543731536>hundreds of yearsDNA doesn't mutate that easily. Mutt.You still have the same greedy evil imperialist genes as the British for example.
>>543731561No it is not. This is not a debate and you are not entitled to your own opinion on it.
>>543730949Blockade is not done with vessels around ports, this is not WW2, again. All China would need to do is to announce a blockade, and sink any ship trying to run through it with drones. Maybe have submarines patrol it as a show of force. Your own example of the houthis and Iranians prove that you don't need a navy to enact it. And also prove that muttoid navy is powerless to lift a blockade
>>543717777Taiwan is rightfully nippon clay
>>543731713Japs will grow poorer and poorer as the Mutts choke the Jap economy to death.Taiwan will grow poorer and poorer as the Japs choke the Taiwan economy to death.At the end of this clown show, the poverty stricken island cucks will only grow more resentful at the Jap theft at TSMC.
>>543717777There would be no difference for most if they became SAR like Hong Kong
>>543717777China being in a civil war is simply the natural state of the country. As long as taiwan still exists they techically remain in such a state. Xi understands this, and knows that actually taking taiwan would result in nature reasserting itself in a more devastating way.Thus the current state of china is doomed if his successor does not understand this esoteric knowledge.
It is doomed only from a McCarthian schizo crusader PoV. If the China reunite good for them, now the west should just start to produce its fucking chips domestically
>>543717777>Go die for Taiwan, chud!No. The ROC can just fix its energy policy and keep making electronics. The PRC isn't going to disrupt its supply of electronics just for a tiny island. Even that threat a while ago was just "don't let your retarded war affect my supply of electronics, retard".
