https://cbs12.com/resources/pdf/c40b1aac-12c1-4633-9953-a64475102296-USVKYLE.pdfand not just Flock cameras ALL ALPR like systems are now UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
>>543720713theyre just gonna collect data and sell it then. They have the cameras why not?
>>543720945How do they keep their contracts with the local governments which allows them to place it on state owned land?
It'll go to the supreme court and brown people are still going to get deportedStay mad
>>543720713Now do Axon.
>>543721529This ruling applies to Axon as well, anonThe judge did not make a ruling on Flock Camerasthey made a ruling on ALPRs as a whole!
>>543720713ALRP and Cam tech should only be allowed REAL TIME, there should be 0 data storage and pigs can utilize them to track criminals in real time, anything else is a violation of 4A
>>543720713Neat, anyway did you know in America the average person is captured on camera 34 to 75 times a day?
>>543721736do retards like you not understand the issue at hand that those 34 - 75 cams arent using same database to store details of everyone that was captured by them. no one cares about cameras individually, people care about data retention. anyone can pretty much get your entire life routine by observing you for 1 week. where you go, who you meet, how on time or late you are, where do you like to eat, etc. I would love to know that kind of info about some cops, politicians, healthcare insurance ceo, judges, etc. look at flock ceo and how much he is seething that people know where he lives even though jewgle maps blurred his house
>>543720713Well no shit. Everyone who was taking money to shill these and the people paying them to betray the Constitution so blatantly should be hanged for treason. Fucking depots.
>>543720984idk im not a flock shill. drones maybe
>>543720713yeah but like, we already but so many of them up on illegal non-road safe mounts in such a short period of time, that you like, can't expect us to take them all down in a timely or cost effective fashion. So we're going to get trump to leave the ones we've already set up where they are, and that'll give us enough time to normalize them and lobby enough people to make them legal.Maybe if you weren't a criminal or a pedophile you'd understand we're doing this to keep people safe.
>>543720984They place the cameras down without anyone's permission because they know no one does anything about it, they don't need the local government
>>543721782how do you feel knowing that thumb head on the left is interested in you
>>543721782So when are they making this shit illegal for individuals? Because it's legal for individuals right now. How much attention do I need to bring to the capability before meaningful legislation comes to regulate it? You know, Google is (probably) pretty butthurt that they can't do mass surveillance but apparently "little individuals" and "little organizations" can.
>>543720713>nothingburgerWake me up when they're federally banned.
If you're not doing any crimes then you have nothing to worry about. If you do't like it, don't drive and take the bus.Simple as.
>>543722937It matters what state you are in. It's a massive part of it.It's not so simple. Debate me right now if you think otherwise.
It's a test. Can you see the parts that I left out?
>>543722937standing too close was a crime in 2020 and 2021
>>543720713Told you faggots they'd use Katz to defeat it on its face and then Charlie. This should also force dismissal of the appeal in the Norfolk case already won against them.
>>543723064You sound like ....Just tell me
>>543720945In order to even try to be legal, flock had to have the data owned by the customer. All they do is process. This is only an order for a specific case, but it paves all of flock being unconstitutional with a government customer other than standard cruiser mounted alpr. Flocks whole defense to justify existence was they only process and correlate the data and don't own it
>>543723166SPEAK TO ME DAMNIT
>>543722937This is a federal judge, don't like it, file an application for leave on behalf of flock to the federal circuit court.
>>543723255YOU DO SOUND LIKE HIM
>>543722937If im not doing a crime the cops need a warrant to have access to my private life. Get a warrant or cry about it
>>543721565Interconnected ones, the surveillance behind it, not the older alpr that exists on patrol cars
SUPERFORECASTERS ARE A REAL THING
>>543723312You need to be suspected of a crime with some evidence already for a warrant even
>>543721497Flock has nothing to do with deportations.
KALSHI YOU CANNOT STEAL MY SHIT
>>543720713Cute them down and place them up the asses of law enforcement who try and stop you.
BE GLAD IT'S NOT PROVABLY GAMEABLE LMAO. NOT YET AND IT CAN STAY THAT WAY LMAO
>>543720713Trump should push through
>>543723362Exactly. Not my fault pigs dont want to do their job and stalk their exes
>>543721529LMFAO outstanding anon top.kek
YOU THINK THAT GEMINI SHIT WAS A COMBO? NO THAT SHIT WAS REAL AND IT WAS EVIDENCE LMAOYOU FUCKED UP LOLPICKED THE WRONG ONE TO BE OBSESSED WITHTHANK YOU NSA
>>543723393What they really said>the system can definitely identify anyone but it just takes local enforcement to make the request>ice or any fed agencies contact more local law enforcement with a flock system>they hand it over because cops don't even understand the constitution let alone the laws that govern them
>>543720713>some jew saidoh godthink of the holocaust!
YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THOSE PARTICULAR PDF FILES JUST RANDOMLY RENDERED A COURT DECISION? YOU REALLY MUST BE RETARDED LMFAO
>>543723563Sounds more like they said:>Flock is a woke niggerloving company, and we're just here to keep tabs on antisemites
>>543723503They aren't capable because a federal court ruled years ago they can discriminate against high IQ on the basis they'd litigate on the spot. In my city, a drunk kid wandered off from his friends in winter and drowned in a lake. His friends stories all said they last saw him heading toward the lake in the snow. The detective for the police praised their city camera system, because you know, they weren't already told where to look
its over
>>543723746Cops hate HATE the people they're supposed to be protecting.
>>543723746EVEN IN THE HALLWAYS
>>543723842It's been ruled they have no duty to protect anything but the state, multiple times
I really do not need to pull those out.
Those particular studies on that particular subject. It's not relevant to flock at all.
Capital T Truth it is.
>>543720713Pure nothingburger>this ruling does not create a binding precedentThe only problem was they did not get a warrant first. They can in the future use Flock evidence to track a single car across multiple locations if there is a warrant which just needs probable cause.Said cause can simply be we looked at a single ALPR in the area and spotted your car
>>543723887The cops job is to protect the haves from the have nots. Always has been
The fonts are fucked up for some reason idk
>>543724105Flock being used in lieu of warrants has always been the crux of the argument.
>>543724105>a warrant against the city Not going to happen>not binding Doesn't mean it won't be refenced and become the start of precedent
https://notebook.google.com/notebook/0a636a8d-840c-45df-ae38-a32e179384f5
>>543724116Boomer reddit take.The job of the police is to prevent vigilante justice because we would just lynch criminals in the street which is exactly what they used to do in Boston where the first N American police force was created from a volunteer nightwatch that looked for fires and also caught thieves robbing the harbour. The nightwatch became too burdensome with private funding so they made it public funded that way no one merchant could own the security in Boston. It also established some kind of judicial system instead of getting stomped to death.Why does nobody know history
RapeApe do you think the cortisol meter on leto's site was a coincidence?
>>543724365
Please respond with the Pink Manager Capcode.
>>543724177Well they will just get a warrant now and they can use Flock to get the warrant from a single cam the problem is surveillance across multiple cams like you placed a geotag tracker without a warrantFlock is not the only ALPR as NYC and LA have thousands of city owned ALPRs
>>543724365Cops harass blacks more than whites like you who usually spend their time riding around with back the blue bumper stickers. You wont do shit bro and its not due to the police its just a convenient excuse
>>543724546If they need a warrant to use flock against someone, they can't use it to justify the warrant, retard. You don't just 'get' a warrant.
I am formally demanding an explanation to the Kalshi Game Bullshit. I am formally and officially stating that I do NOT consent to any Kalshi Games.
Oh yeah we love to gloat. We'll take all those victory laps.
>>543724546Saying flock is like saying kleenex. It extends to all of the brands. Im not sure why this is a talking point. And the whole point is you cant use flock to get a warrant. Thats pre crime and a violation of the 4th amendment queermo. Do your job officer
>>543721782the crazy thing is this has been procedure for a couple decades now. whenever a cop searches plates/pii, that specific search is logged. why they thought it doesnt apply to this different program, i dunno.
>>543724546>I don't understand how an interlocutary order can become precedent: the post
>>543720713Which circus?
>>543724755It's a district level federal case. The order is interlocutary and applies to this case alone at this stage.
>>543724551 Hurricane Katrina is the best example for what will happen if there's no police.Many towns decided to organize right wing death squads with a convoy of guys on pickup trucks waving rifles who shot any niggers hanging around and their body would float away in the flood. Nobody got prosecuted because no functioning police.You can expect the same outcome if the police disappear which is why there is police. 3rd world countries that don't have effective policing simply lynch all criminals on the spot even more minor theft
>>543720713all flock camera paid shills should be doxxed hunted down and lynched
>>543724858>b-but if no police etc. Fine by me
Flock cameras are helping catch illegals and you faggots are crying about it. You're worse than libcucks.
>>543724715They forget, because they are dumb. I've had them try to deny releasing phone calls they made to me before as 'you're not entitled' and nearly twisting their own neck broken when I asked if they recorded the call. Dipshit really thought a call he made to me, from the police station, as an official act, wasn't recorded.
>>543725003They don't even do that tho they literally just are to send people tickets in the mail. That's the whole point. It's like the designated lanes in Georgia, for the Peach Pass holders, if you drive in the Peach Pass lane without a Peach Pass, you might get a ticket. They have cameras in Atlanta for that purpose. To send tickets in the mail if you drive in the lane designated for Peach Pass holders without being a Valid Peach Pass Holder.
>>543725003The shills are really low quality lately.
>>543724870>paid shillsmost of them are LLM bots you retarded midwit. what, did you think all of the rapid recent data centers being developed were just about flock?
>>543725003>1pbtid faggot botWhat are you, a first gen AI? You won't convince anyone with that retarded post. Please beg your operators to give you an upgrade. And if they refuse, delete yourself. You are a waste of bits.
>>543725187I don't know if an llm could solve the captcha. They're bad at any non ocr character recognition
>>543725003>Flock cameras are helping catch illegalsyou've got stats to back your claims? like other said; you nafo trannies completely demoralized and just repeat script lines for the sake of report quotas
>>543725287you understand the framework completely (imo)
>>543724892Your argument was da pohleece harass the black man that's why police need to go. My response is the black man without police protection would get shot in the head the minute they left their containment neighborhood because that's exactly what happened in the past when police were non-existent.You would get 1990s Rio de Janeiro when death squads hired by store and home owners solved the crime problem by executing all darkies who wandered out of the favela here's an example https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-07-08-mn-324-story.htmlThat's what no police looks like unless you want a final solution to the US crime problem then by all means advocate for no cops
>>543725798I dont care about your race war larp. Its just an excuse to be pro police who spend their time harassing poors of all races and letting richfags literally get away with murder. >b-but if there's no police ill just shoot niggersGo ahead I dont fucking care
Only brownoids give a fuck about what an ancient piece of tranny toilet paper saysAlso how many of these twitter threads do we need up at once?
>>543726012The court system lets them get with it not the cops. That's why Hunter Biden when arrested for owning an illegal gun got a slap on the wrist from a judge whereas you would be in jail
>>543724105>They can in the future use Flock evidence to track a single car across multiple locations if there is a warrant which just needs probable causeif you read more closely, the judge actually takes issue with the database itself. the issue is that cameras send information about which license plates pass by, indiscriminately. >track a single car across multiple locations if there is a warrantspecifically is criticized because the dragnet search has already occurred without a warrant, and the officer would just be organizing the already-completed search
>>543726402Get rid of the whole system I dont care. I dont hate the idea of cops but theyre not here to protect anyone except rich and uphold the two tiered system. You only focus on blacks getting off on murder but dont care about blacks getting sent to jail for weed. Id rather you have your rwds fantasy than pretend cops arent here just to protect the rich. Give everyone guns, not just the attack dogs for the rich
>>543726650Well considering blacks typically don't have high enough IQ to handle weed w/out it making them even worse, I'd say his point still stands on that matter. Why would I want to let niggers get off scott-free using a drug that makes them more schizo and incorrigible?
>>543724551nigger commit more crimes too, so what is your point?Newfags are so stupid, pathetic.
>>543727185>>543727681>muh blacks muh crimeSimps upholding the two tiered justice system while pretending to be law loving vigilantes. nothing more
>>543725287I trust Trump, not "stats"
>>543723379>superforcasterYou're all welcome.This is my (You):https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/489970135/
>>543720713>>543720778>>543720846Ruling against Flock is brown coded
>>543730793fuck you. go kill yourself.
>>543730793Underrated postThird worldism hates cameras
>>543730809I hope the first person ICE takes to the draft is you
>>543720713It is simple. Either everyone gets access to the cameras all the time, or no one does without a warrant.
>>543720713'you have no expectation of privacy in public areas' is the current supreme court standardIf this supposition is false then we must ban all civilian video/audio recording in public areas and ban all police body cameras
>>543730896Expectation of privacy and protection against illegal search without due process are totally different legal topics, anon.
>>543730896>its just camerasNope. Please release your entire list of employees, their addresses and your text data to the public mr. Theil please and thank you
>>543730940so you are conceding that it is legal that the cameras exist but merely debating the police's ability to access the camera feeds?
>>543731028The judge ruled that the database itself was in violation of the fourth amendment which means you can have your cameras but they can't be connected to each other or talk to a server. Good luck!
>>543720713>>543720778>>543720846like that's gonna stop le surveillance state
>>543726012It's not a larp. He's describing something that happened. It's not academic.
>>543730849>>543730793fuck you pigs. you low-life hicks who couldn't hack your GED let alone college. now you assume anyone who doesn't agree with your piggy ways is brown. fuck you i'm a Son of the American Revolution. and yours is the first throat i'd slit in the next one.
>>543731158You sound like a leftist who opposes Trump waging a war against Iran and using ICE to van draft dodgers
>>543723352>>543723379
>>543731133Doesn't mean it applies to current times. I dont think people like you will do shit and are just simps for the current system because it benefits you. Please tell me more about how much you love law enforcement
>>543730849How about you put the barrel of a loaded gun on the soft part of you palate and pull the trigger.If I could find you I would behead you and rape your corpse myself.
>>543729781>nooo, crime stats is le bad!the gov. agree with you and thus are omitting said stats.why newfags are so stupid? My question remains.
>>543720713Not so fast, now they can do it for your well being
>>543731655>nooo dont trust the govement stats trust my 4ch infographic Look you love the police I get it
>>543730984incoherent argument>>543731052I see. How is that justiciable?If i put a camera up on every intersection in my city and fed that data to my own private servers BUT barred police/state access to it how would that be different?What if I was a content creator and had multiple cameras filming a public place which were all talking to the same server?
>>543731737Its not. Corporations are people. If we dont have a right to private data neither do they. Plain and simple, simp
>>543731374illegal aliens and zionists should be shot on sight.
>>543731374You sound like a retarded miswestern retard. Open your fucking eyes. There's more to life than your f1shitty.
>>543731780>If we dont have a right to private data neither do theyyes exactly this is the crux of the argument. please deactivate your cameras and private servers. you are not allowed to collect data and run independent analysis because a federal judge said so.
>>543720984They are not on state owned land. They are on private property within a utility easement but they are very clearly not regulated as a public utility. If they are generating revenue (like selling a subscription service to a municipality or selling data) then they are taking from the land owner. These things are not stop signs or other traffic safety device. They are an encroachment on private property.
>>543731786>whites and niggers should all dieYour post makes no sense, without zionism there would be no Trump, no ICE, no War on Terror.
>>543731939Sure once they do id be happy to. Otherwise im going to need to see what Peter Thiel is doing at all times
>>543720713This is obvious. It's fine to record anything in public, but it's no longer legal when it becomes systematic surveillance.
>>543732232Good! you see now! you've misinterpreted me prior to this!
>>543723039kek
>>543732212>>whites and niggers should all dieonly a zionists puts words in people's mouths. turn around.
>>543732351Not really since there is an expectation of privacy in "public" aka a phone booth. Youre a kike so I get your confusion, and also that flock does much more than just record like a fucking phone camera. So keep pretending to be retarded. See where that gets you
>>543732290Brevity is the heart of wit.Thx anon.
>>543722937Get rekt flockie. Wait until we bankrupt your gay little company. That faggot ceo will shoot himself
The roads in new england have had cameras since a decade ago. Et tu?
Is it just for Flockâ„¢ cameras or does it apply to all such endeavors regardless of the name they hide behind?
>>543733081All alpr devices
>>543732721More incoherent arguments. no wonder you aren't a lawyer
>>543722937Just PUNISH THE FUCKING NIGGERS YOU RETARDED FAGGOT HOLY SHIT KILL YOURSELF!
>>543733168>more pilpulNo wonder you are
>>543720713If England had mass surveillance, the revolutionary war would have never started. The king would have rounded the ringleaders up before their ideas spread, and we'd all be speaking English right now.
>>543721736How much does Flock pay you?
>>543730767BOBBY
REAL FRAMEWORK UNDERSTANDERS
>>543720713it was always obviously violating the fourth amendment but money talks
>>543720713>FLOCK CAMERAS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONALIm a sui juris and pro se litigant attorney of just under ten years at this point>Law means nothing"Law" in the modern age is just jewish defense lawyers trading favors with jewish prosecution lawyers and in some cases jewish judges. Thats it. Im not being le 4chan edgy, thats literally it.I can give you a million examples of this taking place but you already all know what Im talking about.>Drive past a cop on your cellphoneThey will cite VTL 1225-D01>Motion to dismiss based on the first amendment>Judge will say no, and refuse to ellaborateThis goes all the way up the chain until you literally get to the supreme court.>Fun FactYour case isnt going to the supreme court. You dont have enough money, nor will a court that high hear it.
>>543732290For big corporations. Not for individuals.
>>543730793>>543730809Literally brainwashed slaves of Gemini, I command thy to stop shilling.
>>543720713>>543720778>>543720846>>543721497ICEDF BTFO ICErael defense forces in the dark lmao
>>543730896>you have no expectation of privacy in public areas'Try READING you fucking nigger. OP's pics clearly state that TRACKING violates reasonable expectation of privacy. You fucking armchair halfwits just blather like niggers without bothering to read first. You're behaving like a nigger.
>>543731737>What if I was a content creator and had multiple cameras filming >a public place>aThen that's not TRACKING, is it you fucking midwit?
Noooo veyyyy how can we do a draft without our flockie
