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how would you win
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>>543722447
Win what?

IL just leave
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>>543722447
Bleaching, not bombs.
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>>543722447
I’d just let Saigons be Saigons
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>>543722596
Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?
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I would have not funded the communist revolution in Russia or entered WWI. Maybe deported Emma Goldman before she got McKinley assassinated and destroyed America.
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>>543722447
Bomb Shanghai
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By not starting a pointless war in the first place. Sometimes the winning move is to not play.
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>>543722897
Oh no the Vietcongs eventually won... okay? what changed? absolutely nothing. If it's such a horrible system, then it'll fail on its own. And it sometimes does.
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The problem is that it isn't about stopping the spread of communism. It's about $$$ while genociding the goyim.
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>>543722447
By not engaging, the communist domino theory was retarded
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Nuke China
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>>543722447
It was over before it began. America should have nuked any country that developed a nuclear weapon to keep itself as the only nuclear power in the world. From then on just nuke whatever country doesn't follow you.
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I'd think it would require winning the famous "hearts and minds". Which I think would be impossible at that time, as every western allied third world country was unstable and miserable dictatorship. Nowadays you could point at South Korea and say that you could be like them, but back then they were in a pretty sorry state.
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>>543722897
>Implying America started the war
We were left high and dry by our French “allies” after they got their shit pushed in during the 50s and they begged us for help.
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really makes you wonder why they didn't just invade the north from the sea
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>>543722563
This. Fight a war of naval supremacy for control of Hainan Island and turn it into little taiwan after sinking the entire chink navy. Buuuut all the black tar heroin is in Vietnam and the coked out cia just had to have it now now now soooo yeaaaah
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>>543722447
Whatever you do, DO NOT, here me out, DO NOT entrench your troops into a valley cut off from all roads.
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>>543722447
The main obstacle was never the VC, it was the American voter.

Each new administration had to fight a political war on the home front, while trying to end the conflict in Vietnam.
Militarily it could easily have been won, but that would require escalation, instead of the opposite constant withdrawals that Nixon was forced into, just so he could survive his first term as president.

Johnson (incorrectly) assumed the NVA could be reasoned with, and thus tried to show good will by halting the bombing raids. They merely took this as appeasement.
Nixon fell into the same trap, thinking he could win both home and abroad by offering concessions to the NVA, expecting them to reciprocate, so Nixon could begin the Vietnamization of the war.
Instead, every concession offered was ignored by the NVA, and at that point troop withdrawals had become a fixed staple, and it became impossible to tell the American public that they needed to gear up instead of down to achieve peace with honor for both sides.

The only way to win, would have been early on, and it would have required a huge troop surge, and invasions into North Vietnam.

The issue then becomes, could the government of South Vietnam ever consolidate control to a degree that doesn't spiral into a new insurgency? Probably not, but it's irrelevant, America would have won the war and pulled out.
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>>543722447
I definitely don't invade a country just to lose a war, and then later get to flex that we had no consequences from losing said war. But McNamara felt differently.
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>>543722447
Stop being a pussy and invade the north directly
>but the chinese
Threaten MAD
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>>543722933
>>543722954
Communism is a jewish system to genocide goyim like you
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Invade the North.
That’s it. But you’d probably have Korean War: Chink Zerg Boogaloo 2.0 so it wouldn’t be ideal
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>>543722447
Rename banh mi to pain de mie and banned baguette. The stale country would crumble in less than a day and beg for mercy.
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And no butter ! Voila !
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>>543722447
utterly demolish north vietnam, occupy cambodia and laos if necessary, and blow up any village that is known to have insurgents. This is massive escalation so threaten nukes if china tries to interfere.
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>>543724003
And then the Chinese intervene again.



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