Ask me anything about it
What does the ideology stand for outside of separatism, how do you want your state ran?
>>543760206And how does being part of canada currently hinder that
Why does it smell like poo in this thread?
>>543760262>>543760206Jeets
>>543759950How come everyone is trying to get away from Ontario and no one ever does. Didn't Quebec have a referendum around 2000 or so?
>>543759950What do you think about all the Albertan CEOs signing a joint declaration that separation would lead to economic ruin?
>>543759950You are not welcome here.
>>543760206>>543760262We want to have control over our own affairs and not have the overreaching federal Government dictate:>pro trans ideology>labor laws>taxes>CPP>unemployment insurance>immigration>all the other woke shit I haven’t mentioned
>>543760540Because jobs. Lots of jobs are in Toronto so people are stuck there
>>543760563This isn’t about economics, it’s about ideology and freedom This shows the flaws of Capitalism. It is a good system but chases profits above all else
>>543760574You aren’t welcome o my board
>>543760563>if we stop sending all albertan tax money to ontario, alberta will be ruinedWeird stance on the matter.
Absolute fucking retardMore retarded than the MIGA retards that infest this board.You're pretending to be "oh alberta can totally be its own thing" to dumb boomers and retards, when in reality a vote for Albertan separatism is a vote for Albertans to be another nu-american state under Jew loving Trump. That is your hidden intentionsQuit playing pretend, most of your funding comes from third party crypto wallets and other shady shit from the U.S and Russia.You separate, you lose all of Ottawas assistance, no pension, no social assitance, nothing, your on your fucking own, and even with your cowboy-oil meme its not enough for you to sustain yourselves, you quite literally will go under within 2-3 years tops and want Daddy Trump to annex you. You are not anywhere near California-tier economics, even some midwest literally nothing US state has more GDP than you.Fake Americans, the lot of you. Even the amerimutts think you're pathetic for wanting in with the U.S.Quebec has more a valid reason to leave Canada due to their ancestry and culture, and history, you literally have nothing but "muh oil" (wont do shit for your economy) I hope the vote is a super majority against you retards so we can all shame you in public, and in other ways i hope you win it so folks can start burning down your houses and cars, and unemploy you.speaking as a 5th generation CANADIAN in alberta
How long can you go without breakfast, Misdur Alberda Saar?
>>543760939I can’t wait until we can actually put anti-Semites like you in camps. Stupid subhuman Jew haters should have our property taken from you, once Alberta separatists rhere will be no charter to protect Jew hating retards I’m saying this as an ONTARIAN.Opposing Albertan separatism is as stupid as hating Trump
>>543760939Also, Trump and Smith are the only ones who want to liberate you from CPP and the pro-Fascist Palestinian movement
>>543760738The idea that you want to balkanise Canada so that you can turn Alberta into a dystopian shithole with no labour laws is so hilarious to me that I almost want it to happen. Bonus points for when you realise the kinds of people who want to brutally crush the Canadian working class are the same ones flooding the country with jeets to keep wages low.
>OP in this thread
>>543759950Is all this part of a plan to become some sort of second Puerto Rico?
>>543760939every albertan is an importunated millionaire because tar sand or something
>>543759950>Ask me anything about itWhy are you gay?
>>543761188I want to stop Alberta from being a dystopic shithole with free healthcare and labor laws like Ireland. Your hellhole has a higher minimum wage than us Without immigration your wages and GDP will crash to Somalia level.
>>543761347>I'm an albertan separatist ask me anything >>543761077>I'm saying this as an ONTARIAN >can't wait until we can actually put anti-senites like you in camps you fucked your larp 3 times already
>>543761347>Your hellhole has a higher minimum wage than usThis has to be bait kek
>>543760206Supposedly, most Albertans are conservative, but they're your typical boring milquetoast conservatives. Heres what they sound like:>we like legal migrants, just not illegals>you can be gay all you want, just dont twerk naked in public on pride parade>im against 3rd wave feminism, 1st and 2nd were alright>abortion is okay if there was rape or incest>I dont like indians, muslims, and chinese, but blacks and latinos are cool because I like American rap music and drake and despacito>I support israel against terrorismCanadians are wiggers but knowing that smoking hashish turned the taliban into superhuman soldiers that could endure anything and fight everyone, Im more excited to see if they're any crazy adventurers among the French Canadien
>>543761425Aren’t you supposedly from Alberta?And you’re opposing separatism?Bait
>>543761431You posted an antisemtic meme, you obviously are here to bait and not be serious
>>543761522>You posted an antisemtic memeOYYYY VEYYYYY IT'S ANNUDAH SHOAH
>>543761496I'm not albertan, I support real albertan separatist if they don't do it to join the US and stay by themselves and ally with us when we separate to pressure Ottawa into an economic alliance. Not as a US territory it's just a way to steal natural resources anyway. You're not canadian plus you're shit at larping.
>>543761587I am not offended I don’t care, it just proves you’re ragebaiting
>>543761618> I'm not albertan, I support real albertan separatist if they don't do it to join the USShit bait
>>543759950you guys need a corridor to the ocean somehow can just part of bc go with you or something
>useful idiot - noun>a naive or credulous person who can be manipulated or exploited to advance a cause or political agenda>astroturfing - noun>organized activity that is intended to create a false impression of a widespread, spontaneously arising, grassroots movement in support of or in opposition to something (such as a political policy) but that is in reality initiated and controlled by a concealed group or organization (such as a corporationWhat you are witnessing is not grassroots support for Alberta separatism, but rather targeted influence operations ran against Canada by a coalition of Russian and American discord groups. While there is a small minority of Albertans who espouse separatist beliefs, it remains an extremist, fringe position put forth by the lowest educated rural voters. These people are being manipulated and riled up by sophisticated operations designed to demoralize Canadians and Albertans and divide us against each other so we can be devoured by the behemoth to our south.Make no mistake: there would be no statehood in our future, no cordial relations for us as a landlocked third country in the middle of two nations. We would be an American territory like Puerto Rico within the year (see how long they've been waiting for statehood). You and everyone you know would lose: your health care, your pension, and all the other benefits that accrue from being part of a community of provinces. You and everyone you know would have their quality of life decrease, drastically.Do not delude yourself. When twitter/x briefly showed the true locations of separatist agitators, they were Russian. Wake up.
>>543759950you know it isn't going to happen anoneither the Albertans will cuck out like Scotland and Quebec did or the Canuck feds will "fortify" the results
>>543761665stop larping homo take your real flag
>>543761723Russians literally oppose trans genders tooYou’re a brainwashed moron and I’m going to have you banned for such stupidity
>>543761764You are a poor troll
>>543759950ur cool
>>543761680if by some mirable chance Alberta left I can guarantee Trump will give them a generous trade deal and free travel through the US Alberta has oil
>>543761813ok moshe
The only way alberta separates is with security guarantees from the states because your government doesn't give 2 shits about your worthless constitution and would tiananmen square your asses for even trying to leave.>>543760563How would it leave to economic ruin when alberta is the only province in canada that makes money? You're spouting literal propaganda.
>>543761823Interesting how every preceding question follows the same format but when you get to #10 the design is intended to trip you up last minute when hastily voting.
>>543759950This idea would make the map look really really fucking stupid, you know that right?
>>543762144Why would you vote hastingly?
>>543759950quebec is a countrythx
>>543762144>design is intended to trip you upAssuming that is true (it's not) the "trick" only works if you do not even read it.
>>543762365Agreed
>>543760440Sorry about that. I accidentally sharted after opening this thread.
>>543762393>the "trick" only works if you do not even read it.A large number of people vote the party line.This means they just fill in every option on either the left or right column of the sheet without reading beyond the first line to figure out which column has their parties candidates or positions.
>>543762632If they do not care enough to read what they are voting for, I do not care if they vote incorrectly.
>>543762393So they just happen to have all previous questions land 9/9 YES for separatists (by the time you hit #5 you're only skimming the question as natural pattern recognition and time saving instinct takes over). Its actually a genius psychological trick if you're going in without seeing the ballot beforehand.
>>543762836>by the time you hit #5 you're only skimming the questionSpeak for yourself, retard. I bet you sign agreements with "only skimming" too.
>>543763089Lol tell me you've never worked a day in your life without telling me. Quebec or ontario?
>>543763196Ontario but I donate to Alberta separatism
>>543761274No, but every Albertan ought to be tho, and its entirely their fault if their Province has shit infrastructures and services. You could make 10-20k a month without any education working remote sites in the early 2000-2010s. But the retard Albertans of the time, at every fucking turn, decided to spend that money in the most retarded ways possible. My friends paids themselves 10k whores and coke weekends at least once a month. > "Oh no but I'm sending 25$ per paycheck back East that's horrible" Where do you think the whores and strippers they spent their salary on came from? No matter what it was always going back East anyway.
>>543763571Would you move if this vote passes the threshold?
>>543759950Why do you guys think you'll be able to separate when:1) You're a landlocked province that would be surrounded by Canadian provinces.2) Quebec didn't and they have far more of a unified ethnic and social culture.3) There are now millions of foreigners in Alberta who don't give a fuck about Canadian desires and just want to make money and will work against separation.
>>543763089People who actually read things before signing are unemployed? I have no idea how you reach this conclusion. anyway I'm in Ontario.>>543763571You're not me.
>>543763790meant for>>543763196
>>543759950Never seen a french canadian that wasnt in some form a degenerate other than trudeau the honey batcher.
>>543759950>votingKek. LMFAO
I see 10x more lawn signs for a united canada but every seperatist house has like 50 of them and its the perfect metaphor for this entire waste of money. Bored boomers need something to do I guess. Personally I cant wait to see how the dude I drive past every day with a giant billboard on his lawn and a bunch of cheap chinese alberta flags that have already disintegrated on the poles reacts because hes normally good for a good IRL shitpost spraypainted on some plywood on his lawn every time the conservatives take an L. alAtleast he had the good sense to take down the american flag he had for a month
>Ask Me Anything!
>>543759950I’m going to Alberta next summer, will be my first time in Canada, will be my first and only impression of Canadians
>>543763790It means you have zero concept of formulaic monotony. I think you are that chronically ill anon I've seen posted on here before. No wonder you're so vehemently against us.
>>543763863How many lack of signs in general do you see? Forever Canada goes door to door giving them out, you have to go out of your way to get the alberta ones. No flag leans towards separatist statistically speaking.
>>543760206freedom, self-determination, classical liberal republican values, laissez-faire capitalism. Low but sensible regulations, little to no taxes, and a firmly anti-woke anti-globalist culture. We desire peace and high trade with our neighbors, that's all. The history of Alberta would take a long time to explain. The short end of the stick of it is aristocratic wealthy elite families in Ottawa set up the western provinces in such a way as they would be developed as resource colonies while the central/eastern elites in Ottawa would by default always control them.Like the US we have two federal houses, a House of Commons & a Senate above them. The House of Commons seats are tied to population. Since the highest concentration of Canadians are from Toronto to Montreal, the lions share of seats are there. On election day the party who wins Toronto-Montreal already controls the country even before ballot results are reported from the west.The Senators on the other hand are APPOINTED by the Prime Minister, who of course appoints only loyalists to their respective party. Currently 70% of the sitting senators were appointed by Trudeau over the last decade. They're there to rubber stamp whatever the Trudeau/Carney Liberal party rams through the House. Therefore one may confidently say the Senate does not exist since it doesn't really serve its intended function ("sober second thought" for legislation).
>>543763819>Never seen a french canadian that wasnt in some form a degenerate other than trudeau the honey batcher.Well, I'm gonna go and speak for all French-Canadians here, if Trudeau is the only one of us you liked, we're not going to care much about being in your good graces, your compass is obviously beyond fucked. Also, Trudeau is not "French-Canadian", even without the Cuban Connection meme, his frenchness is a mask, and probably the one he wears the least effectively.
>>543764194Truth is, you are the descendants of the last wave of immigrant these Ontario elite used to wipe out the last owner's of Alberta, so you don't get to fucking complain a 150 years later when the Ontarian elite does the same fucking thing to you.
>>543764008>formulaic monotonyIs that supposed to make you sound smart? I'm still just hearing excuses for not reading things that you put your name to.>think you are that chronically ill anonI don't care if you think I'm Don Cherry, fag.
>>543764220Dunno he is the only one i have a postive association with something french.
>>543761680Yea not happening. Rural parts of BC & AB are overwhelmingly conservative but the 3 major cities across both provinces are socialist strongholds. The current provincial ruling party of BC are turbocommies who just handed land title of most of the lower mainland of BC to a Redskin Indian tribe of less than 1000 people and call AB patriots traitors on the daily.
>>543761823>Hold a referendum to vote on holding another referendumNow that's an impressive can-kick. No matter how the vote goes nothing is going to happen for the next 4 years.
>>543764366Of course I am smarter than you. You would be long dead without leeching off of socialized health care. If only maid existed back then you could have saved the taxpayer millions.
>>543763691Yes I would love to move to Alberta as a free state and not have to deal with tranny freaks and socialists
>>543763633I but at least they got whores to fuck
>>543763744It’s not likely but it’s a dream to aspire to
>>543764547I'd love to wake up one day in an independent AB and read the news that 400,000 turbocommie wokeoids left the province.Our universities need an ideological purge of all communist wokeoids. Most of the departments in the Humanities wing will need to be permanently dismantled. Every professor who's promoted DEI activism should be fired and blacklisted from working in any university.
>>543764681I agree, they tried to suspend me at UofT for arguing against this woke freak nonsense.Ideally every woke freak would leave Alberta and the based Chads would move there, and solidify the voting bloc for people who actually want good policy and society. Even my wife who is a realHomebody wants to go there now because of how woke Ontario has gotten.
it's all poo anyway
>>543764400>i have a postive association with something french.Why? The lab puppy routine? He's been implicated in so many frauds and scams I think at this point most of us who aren't liberals have been made allergic to him. Met him in university, decades ago, at a party, way before he went into politics. He was just a rather dumb attention-needing dude. I think back then and in the early years he 100% bought his own coolaid, he was chosen early by the liberal authorities to become their next figurehead, so I believe he entered politics with a very naive outlook and when he eventually became corrupt, that naivety became his front. There's thousands of politicians infinitely more evil than he is, but that doesn't mean he can't do tremendous damage to Canadian society through his naivety. Assisted killing is a good example. The immediate response of anyone within a kilometer's of Law institutions to the idea of assisted killing is "No, never, not in a thousand years, because that enables sick fucks".Every single time I've explained this to liberals, their response was, "but that's never going to happen, you are just being paranoid", even tho it didn't take 3 months before the first case of "dude got forcefully AK'd by their family/friends" came out. Trudeau supported and attended a few AK events at the start, like, rich ladies throwing themselves one last big party and getting all her friends to watch her get executed with a smile. They ran ads on it on tv, just to show everyone how normal that is, really. Trudeau speaking out and supporting these events is a large reason why it has become so "mainstream" so quickly.
>>543764797>I agree, they tried to suspend me at UofT for arguing against this woke freak nonsense.
>>543764194>laissez-faire capitalism>anti-woke anti-globalist cultureLaissez-faire is the reason for woke and globalism. You don't even understand the basics, do you think it came from some university thinkers instead of being pushed by all powerful corporations? They became so big because of lack of regulations. Corporations also drive mass immigration, legal or not, to depress wages. They want their slave workforce.
>>543764186Ive seen more non forever canada pro united canada houses than seperatist houses, and a good chunk of the seperatist signs ive seen also have signs for some radio or podcast. Outside of my boomer mom that donated money to trump in 2020 because shes retarded, the only person that has been super pro seperatism is a dude at work that also had a digression in the middle of a 10 minute speech trying to convince me wondering why the natives were so against it before saying we conquered them once and well just need to do it again. Even he went from "were gonna seperate!" to "well if we get a good number well show carney whos boss!" My dad lived in quebec during the seperatist heyday and says its not even remotely close to that, and they didnt even win.
>>543765325I reject the "it's all liberalisms fault" narrative currently being pushed by the political boomer channels like sargon. Globalism and wokeism types exist cuz of communism rebrands.
>>543764797>they tried to suspend me at UofT> Goes to the most woke university in North-America. > Surprised when chudmaxxing in class doesn't make you popularWomp womp. Seriously, tho. The hyper-marxist UQAM is probably less "woke" than UoT. You may just be a retard who can't read social cues.
>>543765333Lol you sure you're not from quebec too considering your so ESL you disregarded my entire question
>>543760206poos arguing if poos should stick with poos lol
>>543765467What do communists gain from globohomo?Because neoliberal ideology pushing it profits from homogenized global customer base massively.
>>543765467>I reject the "it's all liberalisms fault" narrative currently being pushed by the political boomer channels like sargonCurrently? Jesus fucking Christ as if people hadn't been calling out the dangers of modern liberalism for the last 80 years... Read In Defense of Politics by Crick. Its Neoliberalism's fault because they were the ones in power and who adopted the strategy. The commie/hippie/green/woke groups do not have the power or structure to enable their cause, that is given to them by Liberalism in order to cash in on their causes.
>>543759950vote for separation. canada is literally over. when you look at the numbers, there is legit no other reasonable conclusion. won't make it to 2040
>>543760762not anymore. the industrial base of southern ontario is actively being dismantled in real time
>>543765712so u want to go the fascist route then? to me its a psyop to get everyone to abandon the old values and give up on self governance in favor of an all powerful state which is exactly what globalists want except we'll be fooled its to "save western culture."
>>543763744Quebec is literally voting in separatists in tomorrow
>>543766249Globalists and laissez-faire types want powerful state? Same guys who scream low taxes and deregulation?
>>543759950>landlocked>aggressive and expansionist southern neighborIt won't end well for you
>>543759950Wouldn't separating from Canada mean becoming a vassal of the USA instead? Because that's what Donald Trump wants you to be.
>>543759950>Ask me anything about itwhy do you want to be North Dakota 2? seems a bit low IQ.
>>543759950a landlocked country between one that will poo you and one that will jew you
>>543759950How does it feel knowing your parents are first cousins?
>>543767027a new us state u mean
>>543767384nah, it would become a US territory with no voting rights and albertans would be treated as 2nd class citizens
>>543759950Good luck Alberta fren! Can you bring along Newfies too C*nada still hates them even after they went to Louisiana :3-
>>543759950as a fellow Albertan, kill yourself, hillbilly faggot.
>>543767673I mean they're already 2nd class citizens desu and let's bee real here without Alberta c*nada collapses easily, just look how panty twisted rest of them in Toronto and Vancouver got when Alberta didn't want to pay for their crap policy and also let's not forget the truckers.
>>543768256bloody fuck hillbilly
>>543766345And as shown by that party existing for over 50 years and having failed twice before with separation referendums during the height of their popularity, nothing will happen. They're just a pressure release valve that continues to exist because of the October Crisis whose current purpose is to get more money from the federal government.
I don't get the seperatists, they bitch and moan about wanting to be independent but they also really, REALLY want the US to come and rape their soverignty at the same time as well I don't get it
>>543768436I don't get it, are you calling me a jeet? I suspect that if you did a rorschach test it would just be jeets.
>>543768553I can just go outside and do that
>>543759950https://macleans.ca/longforms/the-man-who-wants-to-break-up-canada/The guy who started the separatist movement loves israel.
>>543760206Most of the separatist leaders live in Florida full time. They don't actually have a plan beyond a vague platitude of "common sense conservative values". Most of them like Rath will have to flee after the referendum regardless because they financed the entire thing with tens of millions stolen from the native tribes and the second the rule of law gets shakey and the rcmp lose their mandate to protect people here, they're afraid they're going to get lynched.
>>543768677The native tribes? That... Did the exact same thing centuries before "evil Europeans" I don't get what you're on about also maybe they learned from Britains half ass Brexit
>>543768468holy cope. also the current economic situation of canada wasn't there in the 90's.
>>543768677>the second the rule of law gets shakey and the rcmp lose their mandate to protect people here, they're afraid they're going to get lynched.LOL yeah that's definitely going to be public enemy #1
>>543768856There's no whataboutism to be had, this is what's going to go down. Alberta is a powder keg of political, social, cultural, and racial division. The second there's a window for people to start killing one another it's going to happen. Non conservative politicians will flee the province for fear of their lives. The natives will enclave up in their reserves and start killing people along the highways (more than they already do for fun by Sturgeon and west of Calgary). All of the rural racists are going to fuck around and find out that the chinese, pinoy, and jeets have more in group preference than whitey and there will be sporadic race wars all over the place. The Edmonton and Calgary will be bedlam once the nonwhites see the first video of some tim hortons manager being strung up in lethbridge. You americans don't get what's coming. Albertans are a people under an extreme violent pressure.
>>543764547Sorry but we won't take you unless you are offering us a 6 figure job skill. It's not enough we run the freaks out, but you easterners are too ideologically tainted to be tolerated. If we separate we won't become Texas.
>>543760939>Quit playing pretend, most of your funding comes from third party crypto wallets and other shady shit from the U.S and Russia.I was gonna say "you know carney is a jewish banker right" but then you were seething about crypto so I guess bankers are le good>5th gen canadiandoubt.jpg
>>543768884And the current situation isn't what it was in the 70s where the federal government declared the war measures act to suppress the FLQ after they abducted and assassinated a politician. Stick to your news entertainment media talking points, you're clearly lost here.
>>543761723>Do not delude yourself. When twitter/x briefly showed the true locations of separatist agitators, they were Russian. Wake up.is this meant to be ironic
>>543760939Based. Separatist traitors deserve the rope.
>>543767057canada is already a vassal state you retarded vpnigger
You guys are fags but the government fucks you over every chance you get. Youll never be your own country but youll be the 51st state.
>will you vote for independence on Oct 19thNo because I literally can't. My options for that question are #1 we should be a slave of canada forever no matter what and #2 we should be allowed to have a vote on if we want to be canadas slave
>>543767673cheeto musso would fast track them to statehood for the voters
>>543768098You are the most confused poster in this thread.
>>543759950Alberta will be minority white soon. What are you going to do about it?
>>543759950Mail in voting. The game is rigged.
>>543768856What you are saying is they need to go all the way?
>>543768468Sadly this is true because leafs are cucks by it's founding
>>543761077You should just kill yourself at this point rajeesh
>>543769178>Race warI wish. Most non whites will immediately free when that happens. Chugs will always do what they do in the reserves so it's the same for us
>>543759950No, and i hope if ever they did, end up like yooookaaay with brexit
>>543759950Good luck.
>>543761188you have to understand the sheer amount of ukrainian blood in alberta. they do not lend themselves to prudent decision making, nor accurate appraisals of reality.there are so many people that literally think that getting rid of all labour laws will help them in their labour role. back 15-20 years ago, someone got elected on getting rid of your medicare payments coming out of your taxes and charging a supplementary fee. this made them feel more like americans with pricate insurance that costs a lot more. you have no idea how deep the bootlick gene goes here. they also tend to be the most obnoxious blend of stupid and arrogant that one can think of. as if their ignorance is their greatest strength. men in their 40s worry about doing x because it might make them look like a "nerd", something people use unironically over there. these are the people that bitch that a new public library is communism, while cheering that taxpayers are funding a new arena in which millionaire athletes will play.
>AlbertanThe proper nomenclature is a Fat Albert
>>543768468Oh yeah, it couldn't be because the Feds had 80 years of practice beforehand dealing with these types of situations, no. Or their (not conspiratorial, actually documented and proven) creepy alliance with the Jews.
>>543770323>ukrainianYou have to be fair, there's a lot of Germans, Russians & Irish over there as well. All folks who come from countries that have always been worse than ours, even at our very worst. The rest of your appraisal is spot on. > Hey we've received massive overpayments from the oil companies this year. > Alright, how about we earmark a part of that for health & education? > YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE BASED? IF WE SENT 300$ TO EACH HOMES INSTEAD> Guys, the Millenium Fund is empty now.> ANOTHER ONE > Guys, stop sending 300$ checks to everyone, please. I can't pay to refurbish Calgary's water system. > ANOTHER ONE> Guys, stop please, no more. If Alberta is not a utopian society approaching Star Trek level's of material wealth and advancement, it is entirely their own fault, nothing to do with troon politics or the libs, really.
>>543760484>>543765620Only Canada gets this much jeet talk, I didn't even mention them
>>543769178>The natives will enclave up in their reserves and start killing people along the highwaysWait are the injuns not cucked in leafland? I mean the U.S. could basically abolish every reservation tomorrow and tell them to fuck off and at most you’ll have people bitching on social media? I know you didn’t break them up north but do they really have that much fight left?
>>543772953The injuns here basically operate nearly 50 small independent states, all of them are located along the like 4 major highways and rail lines that keep the province functioning. Overnight they could just stop commerce completely and it would take years to dislodge them.
>>543773292Damn, should have broken their backs. Though in a scenario where this does go through you can probably appeal to the U.S. for aid, all things considered we know a thing or two about dealing with injuns. Shame our president is a retarded kike pawn. >it would take years to dislodge themDepends on how brutal you want to be, I mean you can tell them apart right? They’re still sufficiently brown?
>>543760738Wow it's almost like the EU and the Canadian government are the same.
How will you cope when the referendum fails?
>>5437605401995, the vote was rigged by the federal government (it's actually well documented and the PM of that period even said so, so it's no longer a conspiracy theory).We can't leave.They will run massive propaganda to slow down separatism, inject niggers to destroy provincial cohesion and if all else fails, they will rig the vote.Personally, I'm trying to accelerate: if I can't have a country, Canadians can't either.I actually vote for the liberal party.
>>543759950You won't do shit.
>>543769683How so?
let's say, hypothetically, that alberta becomes independentlet's say, hypothetically, that future political realignments lead both the usa and canada to become close allies againlet's say that they set up together a strict embargo on alberta, no cars or trains can get in or out, no fly zone over the entire country, planes get shot downwhat would you do?is the country resource independent?are the borders defensible? food? energy? population? when switzerland was surrounded by axis powers, they set up a plan to do a last defence stand in high ground locations and mined all important bridges and tunnels "just in case"the talibans survived for decades by hiding in mountain cavesthe vietcong dug tunnels and trenches and hid in the junglewhat do you have?i'm not saying this WILL happen. but it COULD. this is the kind of things an independent country needs to be able to deal with. trump doesn't DARE invade iran because they have spent the past 50 years preparing for it, with missile silos inside of fortified underground bunkers all over the country. meanwhile, there's a bunch of pacific island "countries" with no military forces, and their defences are handled by australia or new zealand.are they truly independent?
>>543760206It stands for nothing. All it does is combine Quebec's separatism (without any of the history to justify it) with a desire to engage in Trump-style corruption by the leaders of the movement. They ignore the fact that Quebec quite literally lost it's status as the core of Canada's economy and culture because of their separation threats. They ignore that the leaders of the movement are disposable pawns that will be quickly discarded once the actual elites move in if they were to succeed.
