So apparently there are these spicy weapons that go big boom and can end wars in a moment but nobody can actually use them. Nuclear weapons are more fake then a 3 dollar bill.
>>543778147Well why don't you accept the idea that using them has unacceptable consequences?
>>543778287Yeah what kind?
>>543778642You already know and I'm not going to humor you if you pretend to be retarded. Just answer the question, if you can.
>>543778287Mention one (1)
>>543778933No I dont. Nukes are supposedly supposed to be the ace in the hole already. The ultimate show of violence that supersedes all others.
>>543778147No, it s just better to let 1 million men die in trenches when your country already has a population decline problem. Make lot of sense ! Nukes are real !
>>543778147I imagine myself piercing your balls with a flesh hook and hoisting you up by it in the center of Hiroshima next to a basket with cattle prods and a sign that says in Japanese "I don't belief that nuclear weapons exist, shock me with cattle prods until I die".It'll be fun watching the population shock you and hearing you squeal for days.
>>543778933Why is there hundreds of test areas where thousands of nukes have been set off that are 100% fine. No nuclear fallout, irradiated earth, no country destroyed, no issues at all.
>>543778147You need a justification to use a nuclear bomb. You can't just escalate a conflict by using one. Also if you don't have a justification you will be seen as the bully and the bad guy.
>>543778147the JewSA used it twice then decided nobody else could
I just rewatched House of Dynamite and it's a really good illustration of how easily we could still blow up the whole world. If even a single rogue nuke is fired at a major nuclear power, they are obligated to start throwing missiles around or else they look weak.
>>543778147yeh well chemical and biological weapons could wipe out everything on earth as well if enough were produced and released and they very much are not fake. Nukes are not fake, the science exists, not a single scientist can stand up and say "here is why nuclear weapons are fake". The reason is because the physics say they are. They are only a deterrent now due to the fact they can be used and no one is going to use them because they would be wiped out themselves, it's stalemate.
>>543779199Wholesale indiscriminate devastation and environmental damage
>>543780237Proof?
>>543779244No they are not. They are a deterrent and always have been since the cold war. So no matter how close actually they got launched they won't be now because too many countries have them and it's a no win situation. It's like having a car that can go 250mph but stuck on a road in a traffic jam going at 20mph
>>543780045‘Why is there”Way to grammar Anyway, the answer is because there are
>>543780335Do you image Hiroshima never happened?
>>543778147>Nuclear weapons are more fake then a 3 dollar bill.They were cold war propaganda just like the moon landing. fake and gay
>>543780383deterring what
>>543778147You dummfuccor no one wants to use nookz because when everyone starts using nookz we will all be dead.
>>543778147Mass civilian casualties tend to be frowned upon.
>>5437781471. The Creation of New Geological MaterialsWhen a nuclear weapon detonates close to the ground, the extreme heat instantly vaporizes the soil and fuses it into entirely new, radioactive glass minerals that do not exist anywhere else in nature.• Trinitite: The 1945 Trinity test in New Mexico left behind a field of greenish glass called Trinitite. Thousands of people have collected, touched, and independently tested these rocks.• Kharonite & Atomite: Similar distinct synthetic glasses were formed at the Soviet test sites in Kazakhstan and British test sites in Australia. You can purchase pieces of Trinitite online and test them with a basic Geiger counter yourself; its unique radioactive signature cannot be faked.
>>543778147>but nobody can actually use themthat's not entirely true, especially with the ones in your picture, it's just that, there hasn't been a proper occasion for it yetonce you're in a situation where you have to start lobbing these, you are more than likely fighting someone who has them too and it's gonna go downhill awfully quick from there
>>5437781472. The Atmospheric "Bomb Pulse" (C-14)Between 1945 and 1963, hundreds of above-ground nuclear tests were conducted. These blasts doubled the concentration of Carbon-14 (a radioactive isotope) in the Earth’s atmosphere.• This is known as the "Bomb Pulse."• Every living thing on Earth that grew during or after this era absorbed this elevated Carbon-14 into its organic tissue.• Today, marine biologists, art authenticators, and forensic scientists worldwide use this exact atmospheric spike to accurately date the age of wine, cells, trees, and whale teeth. The entire global scientific community would have to be in on a conspiracy to forge millions of data points across disciplines.
>>5437781473. Global Seismic and Infrasound TrackingNuclear explosions create massive seismic shockwaves through the Earth that behave completely differently than earthquakes or conventional TNT explosions.• Under the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization, there is an independent global network of over 300 monitoring stations operated by dozens of different, often adversarial nations (like the US, China, and Russia).• When North Korea conducted underground nuclear tests in the 2000s and 2010s, hundreds of independent seismic stations globally instantly detected the precise shockwaves, calculating the exact yield and location. A conventional explosion of that scale would require thousands of trucks of TNT stacked perfectly—something completely impossible to hide from satellite imagery.
>>543780445Hiroshima? The city where 50,000 citizens are working and with their fanilies, thriving atm?
>>5437781474. Declassified Blueprints and Multi-National ConsensusTo believe nuclear weapons are fake, one must believe that the United States, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel, and North Korea all secretly agreed to fake the exact same physics, data, and military capabilities for 80 years.• Millions of pages of declassified Manhattan Project documents, blueprints, and mathematical formulas are publicly available.• Thousands of independent physicists, students, and engineers globally have used these formulas to build accurate computer simulations of how nuclear fission and fusion weapons operate. The physics works perfectly every time.
>>543779199Makes property difficult to sell. All war is about money and property and nukes create a boundary to business.
>>543780798airburst nuclear weapons consume most of their fuel in the air, allowing radiation to dissipate rapidly.You don’t see anyone living at Chernobyl do you?Do you believe nuclear power plants don’t exist?
>>543780948Proof? You already got debunked btw
>>543781070No I didn’t.
>>543780045They're fine because the fallout has been dispersed in the wind and the whole planet is midly more radioactive than it was before 1945.You're obviously eleven years old, so you deserve an explanation: in the 50s, 60s, and 70s we poisoned everything with industrial sludge, the Cuyahoga River caught fire several times, and our motto was: "dilution is the solution to pollution" because it was ... up to a point.All the uranium and plutonium from those tests are in every living thing on Earth. That's how the knew immediately that Ötzi the Swiss Alps Ice Man was an ancient hunter and not a modern hiker: no uranium.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0969804326003416If he were modern, his body would have trace Atomic Age radioisotopes, like the rest of us.
>>543778147Ever heard of a mortar?Grenade?Anyways, those should be small scale enough for you to grasp the actual effect. That's fucking right, it modifies strategy.>why no use nuke>what do you mean they're fucking useless?
>>543781070Hiroshima is the proof barring the make believe you have yet to support with anything beyond your absurd assertion Your entire position rests on simply saying “ no they don’t”Why should anyone accept that as proof of anything more than your stupidity?
>>543778147Nuclear weapons are capable of bringing an aggressor to reason, but they are hardly likely to be used (and if they can be, then only once).Our military potential makes it possible to strike Kyiv and the main NATO facilities in such a way that not a stone would remain of them, only gray nuclear dust.A lot also depends on exactly where nuclear weapons will be used. The threshold for the use of nuclear weapons will definitely be lowered significantly.
>>543780097Since when have Americans and kikes cared about that?
>>543778147>end warsThey don’t want wars to end
>>543781659NATO also has nukes, nigger. Why FL you think your president has been seething in impotent rage for the last 4 years? Also>our military potentialLMFAO, taking notes from the mutts, I see. I'll give you this, you're slightly more competent than them.
>>543781070>what is low-background steel
>>543781195>>543781273>>543782037Still waiting for proof btw
>>543781888You're really on form today. It's just a pity it's only for insults.
>>543782267I posted 4 pints of scientific proof above.You ignored them.Answer them or shut your fucking mouth.
If nukes aren't real, then why are Russia and China such big fat blubbering pussies afraid of war?
>>543778147Flat Earth thread.
>>543781070Hiroshima and Nagasaki — 1945, two nuclear weapons were used. The cities were rebuilt, but that does not mean the strikes did not happen. People and infrastructure were destroyed.Trinity — 1945, trinitite.Above-ground tests from 1945 to 1963 produced the C-14 “bomb pulse.”CTBTO and seismic monitoring detect North Korean nuclear tests.Chernobyl — 1986, exclusion zone.Nuclear power plants exist.Nuclear tests changed Earth’s atmosphere.There were false alarms: Petrov, Able Archer, the Norwegian rocket incident.There are thousands of nuclear warheads in the world. They were used twice; they are not used because of the consequences.Deterrence does not guarantee eternal peace; mistakes, false alarms, lowering the threshold, proliferation, and instability are possible. The world has come close to the brink several times because of false alarms.
>>543778147>nukes can end wars in a momentNo they can't. Commie blocks are thick concrete and rebar. A direct hit is only going to mostly knock one commie block down. An indirect hit is just going to affect the near side. Nukes do a lot to asphalt-roofed timber-framed construction. They don't do much to steel and concrete.Russia could use all 5000 nukes on kiev and still not knock down the majority of the city, much less end the war.
>>543781273The walls of the brick buildings at the center of Hiroshima were left standing.
>>543778147>Breaking news the local jew is angry a nuclear holocaust hasn't happened yetNext time someone ask me what the problem with democracy is im going to use you as an example
>>543782386>>543782488All of those places are literally thriving with life atm, and we are unironically eating suchi and other marine edible creatures from Fukushima.
>>543780797The same radioactive isotopes are found in all steel created after the Trinity bombs, steel production uses vast amounts of atmospheric air in blast furnaces, this has tainted all steel made worldwide since. Great fucking idea these Jew weapons.
>>543781070Low iq retard
>>543781888Did a dildo drone fly up his ass?
>>543782822Shut up, nigger brained punta rican. You look like a retard, you are a retard.
>>543779924>people have been successfully propagandised to agree with my lies, therefore I’m right. interesting argument
>>543780237If countries cared about the environment they wouldn’t dump plastic and toxic waste everywhere. They are destroying the environment right now without bombs
>>543778147Hey look, it's the village idiot!
>>543778642and they say the left are the ones pretending not to understand
>>543782822As a result of hundreds of ground and atmospheric nuclear weapons tests in the 1950s and early 1960s, a huge amount of neutrons was released into the atmosphere. They reacted with nitrogen, which led to a sharp jump in the concentration of the unstable carbon-14 isotope in the air — by 1963–1965, its level had doubled compared to the pre-nuclear era.The atmospheric tests of the mid-20th century effectively doubled the concentration of radiocarbon in the air. This trace turned out to be so distinct that scientists use it as a precise marker for determining the age of human cells, verifying the authenticity of wines, and dating organic finds from that era. It is possible to determine almost infallibly the authenticity of elite wines, whiskeys, and collectible luxury items created after 1955, since organic material records the level of 14C that was in the atmosphere in the year of harvest.
>>543782881>>543783066>>543783274So you can't prove it, got it. Guess that means concession accepted.
>>543780045>No nuclear falloutyou want dirt kicked up by an explosion to fall down for 45 years?
>>543783341Peter Pry, a former CIA officer, wrote plainly that although there had been other false alarms in the nuclear age, none of them went as far as the Norwegian rocket incident, “the single most dangerous moment of the nuclear missile era.” Even after the end of the Cold War, automated nuclear deterrence systems remained in a hair-trigger response mode, because of which routine paperwork nearly triggered a global catastrophe.
>>543783463Proof?
>>543778147it's so weird to me. Like I get the idea of MAD, but why doesn't this apply for all military campaigns? There's always mutually assured damage and death in every war. Why doesn't that stop us from waging war? I guess the answer is normally the people in charge don't have a chance of being killed so it doesn't matter to them.
>>543783341What exact proof are you looking for, low yield atom bombs from 80 years ago -are not- the same as today. Big ones like the ones used in south Pacific have a cement dome covering their craters. So, again, what proof are you after?
> numbers are real and words are real. Look I can draw a picture or them>and that means outer space is super science real>and this is specifically why you are antisemitic if you disagree with jewish science fiction >remember the light sabres??
>>543778147Fake and 1000% gay.
>>543778147If they were fake they would be used more often
>>543780237That's the point
>>543778147I don't believe in them because jews say they are real.
>>543783576The proof that nuclear bombs (nukes) are real, so fsr no one itt has been able to tell me even one (1) consequence of said bomb (fake) either.
>>543783602You can go outside and see space with a $20 children's telescope you dumb redditor
saudia arabia used them against the houthis. there were some good webms of them but i dont save stuff from this filthy place
>>543778933I've been told the cope is the detonate them high enough so it still has the "nuke" impact but no fallout. Probably bullshit thought who knows.
>>543783661We have a list of accidents, you double nigger.https://www.atomicarchive.com/almanac/broken-arrows/index.html
>>543778147Nuclear weapons are a Jewish myth to justify international forever wars.>>543778287What unacceptable consequences? Japan had no radiation damage. If radiation contamination is immoral why do we use depleted uranium munitions?
You can easily tell nukes are fake just by knowing basic human psychology. If nukes were real, someone would've used them en masse by now.Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebomb and all first hand accounts were crisis actors paid to make the nuclear explosion narrative is what happened.
>>543783726They have been used before. The thing is you dismiss them because you have a beta male fantasy of Trump dropping one bomb and everything on earth becomes a utopia which isn't how things work. You people literally think trump is a god and can bring world peace and end wars instantly. But war is more complicated than that.
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>>543783799Proof on all of that? So far you have nothing. What's even your angle here?
>>543779244I really wish someone you love gets nuked but you live to survive to experience the loss. U are the kind of piece of shit who vouches for war but wouldn't fight. Just scum.
>>543778147You’re an idiot or a schizo. I have known people who saw nukes detonated. I been in multiple nuke craters. There is pre-AI film footage of nuclear detonations.
>>543780445The christian place that was firebombed by Jewish pedophile Truman? Why hasn't a civilian ever witnessed or recorded a nuclear weapon? Why hasn't the US military ever seized one? (Because they can't establish chain of custody for something that doesnt exist, or the whole scam gets blown open.)
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>>543778147>YES they're real>NO you can't see them >NO you can't have any say about the use or non-use of them>YES you should be deathly afraid of them >YES you're gonna die for israel because of them>DUCK AND COVER>>543780237>Wholesale indiscriminate devastation and environmental damageand conventional war doesn't cause this?>>543780859>Makes property difficult to sell.you know what else makes property difficult to sell? waryou think ukranians or iranians have an easy time selling property right now? of course not because nobody wants to live in a warzone
>>543783894Proof?
>>543783890That you're a retard cunt.
>>543783842“If it existed, it would have been used” is not a law of psychology but an assumption. It ignores the rational fear of mutual annihilation.Treating Hiroshima/Nagasaki as “incendiary bombings” ignores radiation syndrome, the “black rain,” radiation sickness, the characteristic airbursts, and the medical archives.
>>543780734>The 1945 Trinity test in New Mexico left behind a field of greenish glass called Trinitite. Thousands of people have collected, touched, and independently tested these rocks.It actually didnt and the original photographs prove no glass was formed. All the glass samples are fake. Part of the religious mythos.>>543780748Nukes are no more dangerous than ICBMs. Especially in modern infrastructure-depenent society.>>543780765>>543780797>>543780836This kike is so stupid he needs AI to argue for him lol
>>543783962No really, what's your angle?
>>543783553Peter Pry (1999). War Scare: Russia and America on the Nuclear Brink.
In fact, what is the angle of bots saying that nuclear bombs (fake) are real? Why the insistance that they are real without being able to show proof?
Why are nuclear weapons the only scientific discovery that does not scale down?>imb4 critical massThats an excuse and proves my thesis true. >>543783921Bingo
>>543784074That you're a stupid spic. Really, you are the dumbest cunt to have dial up on that shithole island. Join the fucking Air Force lazy shitbag if you want proof.
>>543784002Israelis aren’t rational. The bombing of oil facilities caused toxic rain recently. This was done without nukes
>>543784222>>543784198
>>543780045Do you know that they have to salvage pre war ships to get metal to use for very precise geiger counters? Because we have permanently irradiated the entire world since testing and deploying nuclear weapons.
>>543784252Did you know thats fucking bullshit?I'm tired of kike shills listing the same 10 non falsifiable things to justify raping kids in gaza
>>543778147If I had a nuclear program, which I dont, Im only speaking purely hypothetically, I would probably never drop one. In the case that I had one
>>543782822You ignored the 4 points I posted that have nothing to do with Hiroshima You are full of shit
>>543784234The black rain in Hiroshima and Nagasaki contained not only soot but also radioactive fission products: cesium-137, strontium-90, iodine-131, etc. It was accompanied by radiation sickness, radioactive contamination, and specific injuries. Toxic rain from oil does not cause radiation syndrome and does not leave isotopic markers. This is a substitution of the thesis: the existence of one phenomenon (toxic rain) without nuclear weapons does not mean that nuclear weapons do not exist. The key difference is radioactivity and the entire complex of damaging factors.
>>543784312Thats crazy we need to form global geopolitics around Jewish child rapists because they say they "can" destroy the world, but are nice enough not to.
>>543784293It's a hundred percent true. It's not super common as some people make it out to be, but ultra sensitive equipment does require specifically sourced metals due to the excess radioactive particles caused by nuclear testing.
>>543784293Great, another nigger.https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023/06/01/chinese-ship-accused-of-looting-iconic-wwii-wrecks/
>>543784038>Nukes are no more dangerous than ICBMsanon, ICBMs carry nukesthe gravity bombs with nuclear tips are less dangerous because of their rangeyou will be using them on the frontline, and your adversary won't start hosing your cities with the former for it, unless they're fucking retarded and want theirs deleted too
Modern "science" is quite literally Jewish money laundering and Satan worship. >>543784354>all elements are radioactive isotopes>LOOK WE FOUND ISOTOPES!shut up retard
>>543784342Proof?
>>543784376Youre in luck!
>>543784450Come on man you put more effort into bait than this, the image was a dead giveaway.
>>543784450Good thing god doesnt exist
>>543778147OP is a liar and a moron.Do not listen to himDo not listen to his ideasHe is not to be given attention and his ideas should be ignored
>>543784437>ICBMs carry nukesLmao this retard doesnt know how war works.>>543784407Can you find me a NON-JEW to confirm these findings? Of course not. I can however find a Jewish Jesuit pedophile saying "the next 100 years will be a battle between the myths of nuclear weapons and nuclear power via the IN.">>543784476I'M SIGNING UP TO DIE FOR ISRAEL RIGHT NOW!!!
>>543783941Proof of what, exactly? That your mulatto-spic hybrid mutt brain is incapable to looking at old films? Too poor to visit Las Vegas, Bikini Atoll, etc.? Too dumb to seek interviews the hundreds of thousands of U.S. military veterans that witnessed tests?I’d say “kys” but you island macacos breed at a young age, so it’s too late to end your cursed blood line by suicide.
>>543784497No argument? K I'm gonna keep working towards putting Jews in camps :)
>>543784450Specific isotopes (Cs-137, Sr-90, I-131) are fission products. Their anomalous concentrations are a marker of a nuclear explosion.
>>543784537Kike you are going in camps when everyone realizes Israel can't do shit when we do put you in campsmSamson option is an empty threat. Enslaving Jews is a real one.
>>543784252My jewdar is reading 0.00001747 when it should be reading 0.000015. I have a billionaire you can donate your money to to fix this discrepancy
>>543784537That's your proof?
>>543784531Its a pretty widely accepted fact that low background steel is a real phenomenon. It's often overblown and not as relevant now that we've stopped testing nuclear weapons, but it is real and you're a dumb nigger. I guess the jews just wanted to salvage old ships for the fun of it.
>>543784531Promise?
Notice the pro-nuke shills do not acknowledge japan having no radiation damage, nuclear weapons not scaling down, and the fact harry Truman was a JEWISH PEDOPHILE FIREBOMBING CHRISTIANS.>>543784577Ohhh wow who told you that? A Jew? Wow thank you Mr Jew for saying Jews are right!Shove it up your ass, kike.
>>543784617KEKK. Also notice this dumb fuck "pre ww2 ship metal" argument doesnt take into account mining, refining, or manufacturing methods. Isotopes will be different from one part of an ore vein to another.
>>543783683Nice tell, calling me a redditor, I can tell you are getting scared. Do you actually think the indians and theater kids you raped will defend you when the first actual holocaust starts?
>>543782616And so were the shadows of the vaporized victims
>>543784757But anon! Jews will kill everyone! Dont do it! They have teh nooks! Now go kill Assad. Oops no nukes, at least we erred on the side of caution.
So many niggers.
>>543784597So you’re the schizo. What is your six? Why aren’t you taking your meds? How does it feel being in league with dysgenic Afro-spics?>>543784641Yes, I’ve been there and done that. The only proof I physically have is some Trinitite.
543778642 > Which unacceptable consequences Dunno, maybe the end of globohomo. Everyone and their cousin shuts down their borders when nukes start flying. Global economy goes tits up, millions of shitskins starve because they are too stupid to make their own synthetic fertilizers.It would be like COVID lockdowns times 10. But what the fuck do I expect… You retards thought COVID was gay when it was actually based as fuck. Don’t expect you all to see nukes in the correct light.
>>543783877Lmao I'm white and Christian. Trump is no ally of mine also a leaf if you did not notice flag.
>>543784719The issue is they were pumping irradiated oxygen from the atmosphere to make steel you dumb nigger. It's less relevant today because we haven't tested a nuclear weapon for 60 years. Why bother even inventing this idea or going to the trouble of sourcing low background steel? What's the benefit of lying about this?
>>543784681Strontium-90 (Sr-90) alone has a half-life of about 29 years. In its chemical properties it is similar to calcium, so when it enters living organisms it actively accumulates in bone tissue, replacing calcium.
>>543778147Yea the Iran war has made it obvious. Nuc weapons are retarded, the US/RUS should reduced down to 500 nukes apiece to make things waaaaay less retarded.Shit costs so much money to build and just as much to maintain and keep ready-for-launch 24/7Could alll be eating beef every day for dinner in US/RUS if we reduced/got rid of that shit
>>543783683You science niggers are so desperate for God you keep creating ever smaller mirrors to....see what exactly? God looking at you and giving you a thumbs up for "finding him"?
>>543784776You gave me an idea. Keep an eye on the catalog for Jew + izzat :)
>>543783192You're too comfortable just doing everything possible to demoralize huwite burgers whether it's trying to make us look bad or convince us that we should just an hero. One day your Norske ass is mine.
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>>543783923i seent it swede
>>543778147The main reason a thinking man concludes that they are fake is that there is absolutely no way you would allow voters to determine who gets to use them. The second most compelling reason is that, given every organisation is susceptible to mutiny, how could you safeguard a nuclear weapons crew from mutinying and using the threat to conduct a coup?
>>543778147OP is a glowing faggot who is paid to sew confusion and ignorance
>>543783602I could kiss you right now on the cheek nearing the temple region
>>543785326Man those soviets and their nukes, I'm so afraid, we should do something about it
>>543780097Escalate it beyond what? The current levels of destruction we have seen wrought upon cities in Syria, Ukraine, Gaza, Libya, Iraq, etc? Every single building in some of those cities gets destroyed. You cannot escalate beyond that.How can you make an argument that we can't use nukes cos they are too violent, and then proceed to totally flatten a city with more weight of explosives than a nuke?You must think people are retard to believe this nonsense.
>>543785516>You cannot escalate beyond thatyou canthose places got wrecked over months, sometimes years of war, and population fled, not in a flash baking everyone inside as a bonus
>>543785516Reminder we use repleted uranium shells, so kike shills cant even claim radiation is a factor for not using nukes. The chemical and biologisl contamination of mercury, arsenic, lead based explosives as well as depleted uranium isotopes are FAR more dangerous than a one time nuke (which doesnt exist.)
>>543785516why haven't they done the same to North Korea though? Why hasn't Iran done the same to Israel? And what's with all those assassinations of Iranian physicists?Almost as if there's a weapon that, once countries develop it, makes other countries afraid to attack them.
>>543784659It immediately sounds like bullshit there are deep as fuck iron mines so why would that kilometre deep ore be irradiated and how many Geiger counter needles do this science niggers even need? The entire planets supply of them probably weighs less than an engine conrod out of one of those ships so I'm thinking it's just one of those OMG cool Scoiyence facts! type memes.
>>543778147Here's the ultimate redpill about nukes.They are real.However.>Explosion radius isn't big enough to matter>It only mattered once (twice) because of the shock factor>Hurtful radiation is gone after a day or two>No tactical advantage beside terrorThe threat of nukes is a greater weapon than the nukes themselves.That's why nobody uses them. People believe they could end the world and that fear is a far greater weapon.
>>543785702Tactical nukes have never been triedI think we can make a go of it in ww3 tho
>>543785702Also what stops some dictator from buying a nuke? Somehow every single other piece of human invention is able to be stolen, smuggled, counterfeited, etc, except nukes? If nukes actually were real then I think that sane humans would destroy them all. It would be like keeping a tiger as a guard animal because you're worried about the safety of your own kids. Not a smart idea.
>>543785988Pakistan and North Korea probably did buy their nukes anonRussia's more functional than it was in the '90s so no one has since, there aren't that many nuclear powers out there and obviously such weapons are high security
>>543785264>i seent it swedeand how many prescriptions are you on?
>>543785758Well why didn't they do it to North Korea during the Korean war? MacArthur was adamant on using nukes against Korea and China but was denied.
>>543786077Pakistan has never actually tested their stated stockpile. Anx the last time they did some type of test (which wasn't of their actual arsenal) was how many decades ago?This is another absurd fact, most of these nuke armed countries haven't tested their arsenal in decades. Every other part of the military has regular testing to make sure the stuff actually works. Except for the most important weapon of all. It just doesn't need to be tested... Wow
>>543786155Fear of retaliation, North Korea didn't have its own (that came later, when they were more diplomatically isolated) but the USSR already had the bomb at that point
>>543785988I don't even believe that. Why do you get 30 years in federal prison for leaking military aircraft paint secrets, but every kid is taught EXACTLY how to build a nuke? So you believe it works in your own mind, and see it as real.
>>543785800So it was a pretty commonplace thing to source low background steel for certain very sensitive pieces of equipment and shielding. It's become less relevant as we haven't tested nuclear weapons for over half a century and atmospheric levels of specific radionucleotides have dropped, enough that most things don't need it. There are still some very specific applications, but this is one of those "omg did you know!!?11!" YouTube slop facts that gets overblown as if we are currently ripping every ww1 shipwreck off the sea floor and running out of usable material.
>>543786284>Every other part of the military has regular testing to make sure the stuff actually works. Except for the most important weapon of all. It just doesn't need to be tested... Wowmaybe it's because governments are environmentally conscious, that's why they don't need to test nuclear weapons! keep recycling!also you and me will be sent to the meatgrinder before nukes are used anyway but that makes them all the more real because our governments are willing to sacrifice our lives to NOT use them!
>>543785516That is exactly how Russia is trying to stop it. To do that, it is necessary to destroy the instigator - Ukraine, which unleashed this war in 2014 with the ATO.
>>543778147the goal of war is to take your enemy's land or resources or to brutalize him enough make him say "uncle." using a weapon that destroys everything and kills everyone and potentially makes the land uninhabitable goes against all 3 of these purposes, doesn't it? fucking moron.
>>543786566>using a weapon that destroys everything and kills everyone and potentially makes the land uninhabitablepeople who work with nukes don't even say these things, you're reciting actual fiction because you're gullible and incapable of differentiating religious beliefs from scientific knowledge
>>543785810"The radius is not large enough" — this contradicts the data. A 13 kT blast produces a 100% lethality zone within a radius of ~500 m, and radioactive fallout spreads to ~20 miles at a level of 100 R/h. This is not a "negligible" radius."Significance only once" — this ignores that Hiroshima and Nagasaki destroyed cities and killed 90,000–166,000 and 60,000–80,000 people respectively over 2–4 months. This is not a "one-time shock" but a sustained strategic effect."Radiation disappears in a day or two" — a gross error. Cs-137 has a half-life of ~30 years, Sr-90 — ~29 years. After a year, 99.9% of the activity comes from long-lived isotopes; after 20 years, mainly from Cs-137 and Sr-90. The Chernobyl exclusion zone remains radioactive even after 40 years."No tactical advantage" — contradicts military theory. One nuclear artillery warhead is more effective than thousands of conventional shells, compensates for delivery inaccuracy, and allows destroying bridges, tanks, and fortified areas. That is a tactical advantage.If the radius is "insufficient" and radiation "disappears," then why is Chernobyl still an exclusion zone? Why is trinitite still radioactive? Why is C-14 from tests used for dating?
>>543786504>my dog ate my evidenceThis is the level of reasoning required for geopolitics based on the Jewish nuke myth >>543786647Damn thats cool too bad its fanfiction.
>>543778147It's pretty straightforward, you're just dumb. The people in control of them live pretty good lives and are actually buddies. Pawns like us don't control the nukes.
>>543786535If anything nukes could save alot of people and time and money. Tell people to leave area beforehand. Anyone else gets nuked. But we all know nukes dont exist.
>>543781245Nah, you're a useful idiot. They're fake as fuck.
>>543786566Ok so we've already seen with our own eyes that they are not worried about destroying everything. We can see that many modern cities have been entirely obliterated with modern warfare. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are perfectly inhabitable.So this leaves your second point standing. But why not simply issue an advanced warning ( as we already see happens in modern warfare) to evacuate the area before it is hit?
>>543786647Chernobyl is thriving as we speak btw try some actual proof next time
>>543778147It's either use nukes or get drafted take you pick zoomies.
>>543786647>If the radius is "insufficient" and radiation "disappears," then why is Chernobyl still an exclusion zone?>if the holocaust didn't happen, why is it illegal to deny it?same auraalso why are you conflating nuclear weapons with nuclear energy? is it because they both have the word "nuclear" in them?
>>543786714It’s not fanfiction. It’s documented physical reality.Chernobyl exclusion zone: roughly 2,600 km2 in Ukraine, plus a separate reserve in Belarus. It is still officially restricted, monitored, and guarded. The sarcophagus and New Safe Confinement exist because the reactor site remains highly radioactive. Cs-137 and Sr-90 are the main long-lived contaminants.Trinitite: the greenish glass formed by the 1945 Trinity test in New Mexico. It is still slightly radioactive, contains fission products, and is held in museums and private collections. Its existence and composition have been independently verified by gamma spectroscopy.C-14 bomb pulse: above-ground nuclear tests doubled atmospheric carbon-14. That spike is measured in tree rings, wine, human teeth, and organic tissue worldwide. It is used for dating and authentication.Calling this “fanfiction” doesn’t refute the evidence. It just avoids it. If you think the exclusion zone, trinitite, and the bomb pulse are fake, then you have to explain how thousands of independent scientists, multiple governments, international agencies, and physical samples are all part of the same 80-year fabrication — including the Soviet Union, Ukraine, the IAEA, the WHO, and every lab that has ever measured a Geiger counter.
>>543786934Proof?
>>543786714Imagine being such an idiot that you think the entirety of basic scientific thought is somehow secretly being manipulated by the jews. I mean it's one thing to say "jews released a pozzed study, hebrew influence" but you're essentially arguing something ridiculous like "gravity doesn't exist, the jews made it up".What exactly goes on in your troglodyte brain in terms of say geopolitical situations like Norks or Iran having or trying to possess nukes? Is it all just some grand jewish conspiracy and Iran is pretending to enrich uranium so the west can get big mad about them not having nukes?
>>543786897Since nukes dont exist I don't have to worry about the second.>>543786934Didnt read. Jews are liars. They dont control the fate of the world.
>>543786969>the entirety of basic scientific thought is somehow secretly being manipulated by the jewsCorrect. They steal tax dollars, write bullshit on paper, then claim that is a factual basis of reality to enact policy. Modern "science" is a Jewish myth. Thats why non Jews are banned from doing real research.
>>543786896>>543786896>Chernobyl is thriving as we speak btw try some actual proof next timeThe exclusion zone remains one of the most radioactive and heavily guarded places on Earth.
>>543787049Proof? Last I checked Chernobyl was and still is thriving.
>>543786934>are all part of the same 80-year fabrication — including the Soviet Union, Ukraine, the IAEA, the WHO, and every lab that has ever measured a Geiger counter.I have zero (0) difficulty to believe believe that in fact it's more believable than nuclear weapons. We should talk about the fact they're all freemasons.
>>543778147Crazy how you niggers say this is fake or that is fake but never say the internet is fake or know how it works.
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>>543786769You cannot simultaneously assert that it could have been used for salvation and that it does not exist. This is a substitution of the thesis: first a hypothetical benefit is introduced, then reality is denied.>>543786913Hiroshima and Nagasaki — 1945.
>>543787199>Hiroshima and Nagasaki — 1945.>>543780798
>>543787097Wait, the Jews who run the Freemason child sex trafficking cult, invented nuclear weapons (using billions of tax dollars) AND played golf on the moon? (Using billions of tax dollars)Hmmm
>>543787039Keyword being basic. There's a difference between saying jews manipulate science to push agendas, and arguing that fundamental principles have been manipulated about observable truths of science, like radioactive decay, fission or thermodynamics. What kind of absolute nigger brain retardation is this?
>>543783890>Proof on all of that? So far you have nothing. What's even your angle here?You're right actually ....there is no proof .....if you ever see a flash of light, brighter than the sun, over San Juan, or whatever barrio you live in, look directly at it, then walk towards it .....It's just Jesus coming down from heaven to shake your hand
>>543787423Proof?
>>543787298>Jews lie about science sure...>HOW THE HECK WOULD JEWS LIE ABOUT SCIENCE YOU IDIOT?!JIZZAT detected
>>543787298ok so because we use uranium powered kettles to create electricity we have to believe that doomsday bombs exist even though none have been tested during our lifetimes?
>>543787199>Hiroshima and Nagasaki — 1945.notice how you don't answer my question and instead pivot to something else, and also, with no real proof, you're just regurgitating what you've been told to believe by other peopleyou're a zealot
>>543787443Proof?
>>543787264and now it's when you learn 3/4 of what you know is a lie fabricated by kabbalist (that call themselves freemasons) to control the population with fear and escapismit's not for no reason both arrived in the same period just before any modern technology nuclear weapons were invented in 45 first landing on the moon in 1969 both couldn be remade today with modern technologies both never been proven and are heavily questioned both had "fake" made to show to the population that were admitted long after they didn invent the nuclear weapon they invented the fear of a mass casualty weapon with the help of the best enemy money can buy they both threw their respective population into a paranoid frenzy intermixing doom porn and reality a mass hysteria, mass psychosis, mass hypnosiswhat if I told you all those events were a direct result of the 1938 radio broadcast of The War of the World and one of the first example of psychological warfare using technologies to reach the mass? that episode was repeated several times in different iterationCharles Manson being another one the covid a more recent example what if I told you mass hypnosis is real
>>543787199The reason from the hypothetical is stated is because that is the most logical way to use such a weapon if it existed. The fact that rice farmers with sandals defeated the US with over 30000 warheads proves this gay nigger psyop had been a total lie from the start. I also never stated that Nuclear power plants were fake just that uranium or plutonium bombs are fake.
>>543787472So where do the lies start and end with science? Is gravity real? Thermodynamics? At what point did it become hebrew lies? Is it only nuclear physics, all physics or is chemistry and biology completely kiked at the core level?I think you're too retarded to actually follow along here, but I'll give you one last chance. Im drawing a distinction between basic fundamentals of science, that are taught to high schoolers. And modern science that uses botched studies to assert claims that are not observably true.
>>543787608100% facts.>>543787620Wipe the jizzat out your mouth.>>543787472You already admitted science is fabricated by Jews. YOU figure it out, jizzat kike.
>>543787620Are you saying that you have observed a nuclear bomb detonation?
>>543787506I mean the fundamental principle proves it honestly. If you accept that radioactive instability under controlled conditions can create immense energy, how can you then posit that it's impossible they could weaponise that energy?I'll say it again. How does the no nukes cope work when the entire basis of the iran war is no nukes for them. If nukes aren't real, why does Iran play along and try to enrich uranium and pursue a nuclear weapons program? Are they in on the conspiracy also?
>>543787620Proof on nuclear bombs (fake) being real?
>>543787805See the post above yours.
>>543787791>I mean the fundamental principle proves it honestly.BZZZT WRONG. Shut up kike. >if gasoline is flammable, super gasoline will burn down the planet!
>>543778147Did you attend high school? If so, you would have learned about mutually assured destruction.
>>543787791It definitely contains a lot of energy, which we observe as it creates electricity. But the gradual decay of nuclear fuel isn't the same as an instantaneous explosion (that we cannot observe because there are no tests). I don't follow the Iran situation too closely but I always thought the Iranians were just trying to develop their own nuclear energy industry.
>>543787969There's nothing there.
>>543787996>mutually assured destruction.*mic drop*take this updoot dear sir, you're a gentleman and a scholar
>>543780106Why do you want ShariaSA? Could you keep your third world governance to yourself?
>>543788072Yerrr. Except the problem is that we have seen many nuclear capable missiles being used lately. So if the MAD doctrine was true then you would have to assume that those nuke capable missiles actually contained nukes and then initiate your MAD counterattack. But this has no happened.
>>543787996>if you went to Jewish brainwashing camp, they taught you Jews are right!
>>543780237that's war for you and
>>543778147> Nuclear weapons are more fake then a 3 dollar bill.Sure
>>543788043Gradual decay in a controlled environment. The whole thing is meticulously engineered to avoid a chain reaction and subsequently a meltdown. The known risks and consequences of poorly managed nuclear energy are indicative of immense power that easily can be weaponised. Also weapons grade material is generally much more reactive than typical power plant material. Which makes a chain reaction much simpler.
>>543788843You never proved super gasoline exists. You are assuming it does. -100 jizzat
>>543788892What is the energy density of gasoline versus uranium? Does energy density scale?
>>543786515There's this thing called underground testing. With North Korea you will occasionally, extremely rarely read a story that there was some minor earthquake detected which indicates they tested a nuke underground (and of course these stories can be fake and gay too). But the thing is with all other nations, ESPECIALLY the ones currently at limited war with each other and would have very good reason to test and demonstrate to both themselves and others that their nuclear weapons work at all, COULD NOT BE FUCKING BOTHERED TO EVEN TRY.>you and me will be sent to the meatgrinder before nukesHow convenient. The meat dies before he can see why he was sent into the grinder instead of the big booms.
>>543789002My super gasoline has infinite energy density. You didnt read the study I published? You can't have any though its so dangerous I made it illegal for you to study it.
>>543789334Well imagine you are a general who devises strategies with the belief that nukes are real, and that his enemies have a lot of them. Wouldn't you start to get very anxious when you realise that you've never seen for yourself that your nuclear arsenal actually works?
>>543789334>There's this thing called underground testing.That we cannot see or study and makes it so atmospheric isotopes are no linger evidence of nukes? Wow! How convenient to not provide evidence.Actually when nukes have less evidence that is actually MORE evidence! Funny how that works.
>>543788217Blow me, dumb dumb.
>>543784293based
>>543789515It's clearly not worth my time to argue with a gorilla brained nigger who doesn't understand the energy density between gasoline and nuclear fission. Because if you understood the difference, you wouldn't even be arguing that nukes aren't real. If you accept that nuclear energy exists, but that it's impossible they weaponise that energy density, you're either clinically retarded or just being disingenuous.
there's lots of weapons like thatthere's a resonance weapon that can shake the entire planet apart
>>543778147The first time nuclear weapons were used they permanently altered the composition of the atmosphere.
>>543789914Too bad the only people who studied it were Jews and we cannot replicate that study today. Oops!
>>543789680>get proven wrong>ur dumbOK kike. -100 jizzat
