Estonia is shifting troops permanently closer to the Russian border (Tapa -> Johvi 50 km, new Narva base), buying HIMARS + Chunmoo MLRS (300 km range, reaching St. Petersburg) and UK Nyan kamikaze drones for deep strikes into Russia from day one. Officials admit neither Estonia nor NATO currently deters an opportunistic Kremlin move post-Ukraine.https://www.ft.com/content/0293497e-e4b5-473e-be49-67d1fc005faeThe doctrine is bizarre. Estonias manpower is microscopic (7-8k active + reserves) against Russias millions. Its long-range inventory is a handful of launchers - irrelevant vs Russian depth, mass and superiority. It assumes NATO passivity yet relies on NATO for air cover xDAnti-drone AD is effectively non-existent in the Baltics (and beyond). Even the US NORTHCOM commander admitted few weeks ago the US military-industrial base and forces are defenseless against cheap drone swarms. Russia leads globally in cost-effective C-UAS: AI-powered FPV interceptors, 24/7 mobile AA teams, lasers, and Pantsir with ultra-cheap micromissiles that make downing drones cheaper than the drones themselves. Russia routinely intercepts hundreds daily at a fraction of attacker cost.NATOs Baltic response (scrambling jets with multimillion-dollar missiles like AMRAAMs etc) against single drones is irrational and unsustainable. A few hundred cheap drones would overwhelm every jet fleet available, while Russia has mastered the economics.Nyan itself is inferior to Russias Geran-4: payload under 20 kg vs 90 kg; cruise 222 km/h vs 350 km/h (max 500); takeoff weight 75 kg vs 450 kg (far less fuel, warhead and kinetic energy); price $140k - three times a Geran-4. Its slow speed makes it especially vulnerable to cheap FPV interceptors. Estonias deep-strike fantasies ignore this total asymmetry and might end with the chihuahas brutal death xD
>>543801149So....they're building up troops on the border of an enemy nation they're constantly antagonizing and sabre rattling at?Here we go again.
>>543801149ok pidor.
>>543801149Russia is beyond bleakness with this war, why do people worry so much?
>>543801149What you gonna do eh. Such are our politicians. Pray for us frens.
>>543801326You surely live in USrael so you have no reason to worry (maybe except of narcocartels going rogue) but if i was a citizen of a deluded micro-state deliberately pushed to war by external powers vs a 140 mln nuclear and industrial behemoth, i would be very worried. Russia neutralizes 27k 1-trillion-dollar armed hohols a month on the battlefield right now (according to official numbers disclosed by PM Tusk) using only a fracture of its entire potential, while Estonias entire army is 8k people xD
>>543801184To be fair, you gather enough of these ankle biters and they become a menace.
I never understood these tiny countries trying to fight larger conventional powers. If I were the leader of the Baltics or Balkan country with an asymmetrical enemy, my entire strategy would be griefing the larger foe. Wouldn't fight a single battle. My soldiers entire strategy would be to get behind enemy lines as refugees, allies, agents, and just slaughtering civilians. It'd be a day one barrage of launching all my fire power and missiles into your cities. Everything else would be IRA style terror attacks and killing civilians in that country until they fuck off. I'd make it open too. Invade the country and my army's only purpose would be to slip behind your lines and kill civilians. Be too annoying to deal with.
>>543801457>another drone hit a wheat field, oh no, I must panic and act all dramatic, will it b WW3?
the baltics and butthurters are shitting themselves at the prospect of a new major russian assault, you can taste their fear in the air, this posturing is incredibly strong and bravei feel britain and france and germany and other powers are trying to hype them up for something dumb
>>543801503or them become fun as you grab them by the hind legs and listen o the satisfying sound of their heads crack open on the cement
>>543801510>My soldiers entire strategy would be to get behind enemy lines as refugees, allies, agents, and just suck cock, the best cock sucking this world has ever seen
>>543801149Why wouldn't being part of NATO be a sufficient deterrent? A Ukraine-like land grab from Estonia without a NATO response/Article 5 mobilization would cause a major international crisis and NATO would likely fall apart if the countries in it find it unreliable.
>>543801149>Estonia should move troops away from the Russian border
>>543801149Good. Let's get the fucking nuclear war everyone is begging for. Let's get it overwith. Only a pussy bitch doesn't want a nuclear war at this point.
they just want to lock more troops on this borders so less is available for ukraine war.
>>543801457 >140 mln nuclear and industrial behemothMay is see the behemoth?
>>543801149Armata status?Ratnik 3 status?Su 57 status?
>>543801149It's not bizzarre, in fact it makes perfect sense given their enormous manpower disadvantage.If russia strikes them, Estonia wants to hit them as hard as possible, like a bee stinging you in self defense and leaving the stinger inside you. Sure, this maneuver will kill it, but the question is, do you really want to be stung by it?Thats the deterrent.And what alternative doctrine can they adopt? None, they lack the men for anything else including assymetric warfare.You, being AIDS-infested subhumans (or maybe worse, paid pajeet shills) see this as Estonia thinking itself strong enough to "conquer russia" or something. Or at least thats the spin youd like to put on it in your information war.>>543801184>>543801218>>543801510
>>543801789Dude you're fucking scared Russia will cause destabilization and your brown ass goes back to the middle east or gets genocided. Holy shit lol.
>>543801149>Estonia is shifting troops permanently closer to the Russian borderall 80 of them?
>>543801149>maybe if i post a lot of numbers out of my ass they will believe my shilling and I will get 100 roubles for bread.
>>543801149>Russia should be permitted to take all of Europe without any resistanceNo thanks. Globohomo East will be worse than Globohomo West.
>>543801789The US-Iran conflict depleted nearly the entire global stockpile of key HIMARS long-range missiles (ATACMS and PrSM). GMLRS stocks were also heavily drawn down. Industrial bottlenecks (long lead times for specialized components, limited production capacity, Chinese rare earth choke) prevent rapid replenishment. Full recovery of ATACMS/PrSM-level inventories is expected to take long years despite ramped-up contracts aiming for higher GMLRS output.https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2026/10/04/why-us-himars-missile-shortfalls-raise-stakes-for-a-potential-taiwan-strait-conflictBolanda is cooked already after 10s decisions of the retard Blaszczak to base most of Polish rocket artillery potential on Himars.Even Polish mainstream defence magazines admit it now, years after my predictions xDhttps://defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/biale-slonie-co-zrobic-z-polskimi-himars-ami-opinia
>>543801789that's a great analogy because a bee sting doesn't hurt by the next day
>>543801149Wow I care so much about this. Anyone gave a shit about Estonia in their life bro.
>>543801789>And what alternative doctrine can they adopt?abolish military because it won't make a difference either way
>>543801149> price $140k - three times a Geran-4Smart move: more expensive drone means higher GDP. Its importan to prop up your economy in case of war.
>>543802142So why do every countries on earth not join the us or china? After all its hopeless if you get invaded by a stronger country right? Might as well be safe
>>543801149Sure thing pidor
>>543801149butthurt belters are the gf in this scenehttps://youtu.be/Z7dNnZAd720?t=16
>>543801149Why the hell are slavshits so obsessed with a Mexican breed of toy dogs
>>543801149If słaboruś were so mighty, you wouldn't have to shill for them daily, pedale jebany.
>>543801149>Russia Stronkok, where do we surrender?
>>543801789>And what alternative doctrine can they adopt?Neutrality. Russia repeatedly stated that they don't want to attack the EU. The Baltics (and Finns and Svedes) could have declared they are neutral, pursue mutually beneficial trade agreements and that would be it.
>>543801149bad faith argument, but whateverestonia has 40,000 trained reservists, russia has ~2.4m personnel, this is a moot point. but say russia did take up the opportunity. they can't teleport their forces to narva, and would immediately have to contend with norway, finland, poland and the remaining baltics. himars are not supposed to destroy x russian soldiers, they would be used strategically, as is their purpose.cheap drones are a problem, but as seen in ukraine, can be matched or even exceeded relatively quickly and effectively. estonia has a clear deterrence, enough that it is not rational for monke to open another front and engage in direct hostility with nato
>>543801149Why?
>>543802224but it's not a stronger-weaker situation, their military is so small and weak that all their defence will accomplish will be killing off native males
>>543801789>It's not bizzarre, in fact it makes perfect sense given their enormous manpower disadvantage.>If russia strikes them, Estonia wants to hit them as hard as possible, like a bee stinging you in self defense and leaving the stinger inside you. Sure, this maneuver will kill it, but the question is, do you really want to be stung by it?>I love me some bees!Summarizes British politics perfectly.
>>543802320>and would immediately have to contend with norway, finland, poland and the remaining baltics.Define "immediately". You you really think that all these NATO forces would jump into action in a matter of hours? Dude, Estonia would be lucky if NATO would be able to give a strongly worded press release reaction in a week.
>>543801789>Its not bizarre Yes its completely suicidal they should focus on diplomacy not a futile war. And stop trying to encircle Kaliningrad and enlarge this war
>>543802142How nice of you to tell Estonians what to do. Maybe you should learn Estonian, move there, learn their culture and history, become their citizen, and then push for that after paying Estonian taxes?Faggot rusmongol.
>>543802320I already claimed that it would be enough to move its Rubicon unit (9k soldiers) to Estonia to massacre the country, they dont need to make a huge visible moves xDI even created a plan for Russia how to defeat Estonia in a few day blitz with using Russian elite drone unit RubiconIn Phase 1, Rubicon deploys electronic reconnaissance and signal-hunting detachments to map Estonian Defense Forces command nodes, radar sites, and communication relays along the eastern border. Specialized FPV and loitering-munition teams simultaneously strike early-warning radars and air-defense positions to compromise initial situational awareness.Phase 2 enforces operational interdiction along transit corridors linking Narva, Tartu, Tapa, and Tallinn. Rubicons specialized strike squads target supply convoys, mobile artillery, and enemy drone operators on key highways, cutting off frontline garrisons from NATO Enhanced Forward Presence reinforcements.In Phase 3, Rubicon integrates AI-assisted drone swarms with heavy electronic warfare arrays to suppress signal infrastructure and satellite positioning across key geographic choke points. This neutralizes counter-battery capabilities and suppresses localized anti-tank units.In Phase 4, persistent aerial reconnaissance guides advancing armored spearheads around fortified urban pockets. High-precision drone teams continuously neutralize defense positions in real time, severing national command links and forcing a rapid military collapse before broader NATO Article 5 mobilization can take effect.https://youtu.be/0IIeHSZ77q0
>>543801149nato response would need timeputting ur troops on the border will buy that time/thread
>>543802317Your definition neutrality is different to the russian one
>>543801326It's still a big country and nobody wants 100 thousands of casualties because of these retarded vodka monkeys.
They are moving troops to the border so they can close the border when Russia collapses.
>>543801789what the anglo is saying is they are all bait, small states the anglo is using to attack a big state. this time its Russia but this divide and conquer has been anglo policy in Europe for hundreds of years. they brag about it being so.the anglo intends to profit by loans, selling arms, spreading its vile influence to rope in more small states, and ultimately enriching itself through theft. feels bad for butthurt belt and other anglophiles but forget the vile history of the anglo warmonger, doomed to repeat it.
>>543802433STFU artyom and get in the trench your country is calling
>>543802387dosłowny pedał od faggotów wyzywa lol, naucz się czytać ze zrozumieniem ciotopedale
>>543802327So why don't russia just invade already?
>>543802280Wimps are always like this when they think they have someone strong protecting them. They try to provoke those stronger than them while their protector stands behind them. Then they can strut around, beating their chest, pretending it is their own strength that scared the more powerful from reacting. It works fine until their protector gets tired of it or simply walks away when the wimp accidentally succeeds in provoking an attack. Poland and the Baltics are risking their existence on the belief that if they can provoke Russia into attacking them, the US will obliterate Russia, while the local slavs beat their chests for causing the downfall of Russia. Seeing how things went with Kuwait, Iraq, and the US, it's an understandable belief for those of a certain level of retardation to want that situation repeated with them in the role of Kuwait.
>>543802369publicly, the doctrine is rapid response - fight immediately, reinforce and turn it into a nato wide regional war before monke can consolidate. there are many joint exercises every year that follow this plan, there is every reason to assume that it would be followed through. it would also be politically and strategically suicidal not to
>>543802479because they don't want to invade? at least for now? duh
>>543801149Based everyone knows a big dog will run away from a smack on the nose
>>543802420>nato responseWhat response? Good luck conscripting the goyim. Maybe you can send those millions of pakijeet imports to the front instead idk good luck lol now go clean some toilets.
>>543802439>big, big , big If they don't get a Lease and lend from China or US it's over for them.
>>543802455Pretty much this.
>>543802484No I’m just wondering why the Slavshits don’t have a local toy breed why use the poor Mexican dog as their symbol
>>543801149It's not bizarre at all. Estonia is not preparing against full scale invasion ala Ukraine but against infiltration and declaration of "people's republic of Narva".
>>543802417not going to engage with your fantasy role play, which conveniently assumes estonia is an isolated backwater. if you think that russia is going to steamroll nato's military and industrial depth you are delusional. basically, 2 weeks
>>543801149I guess burgers want to sacrifice us next
>>543802464Thanks for your opinion Rashiit. But i'm afraid i have to tell you that brown people opinions doesn't count
>>543802700>Industrial depthRussia is out producing all of NATO on its own throw China in the picture that NATO is reliant on for most military parts and REM’s and forget about it. Russia is not my enemy Brussels is
>>543802700Kek your nation would instantly fold when a Geran hits something in London, the whites and pakis revolt into civil war when they try to conscript for war and the country dissolves into a clusterfuck. This is all of Western Europe too btw. Ukraine had the morale advantage of being a homogenous ethnostate.
>>543802771Go back you coward
>>543802758Yep they plan to Ukraine the entire butthurt belt start speaking out now and find like minded people.
>>543802458Go back to your Slav hole. I bet you are from former Yugoslavia or EE. Real Germans don't post here.
>>543802846He is right though it’s called the great game they been doing it for centuries
>>543802700If i could replace Putin, Gerasimov and Mordvichev in their commander roles, i would conquer Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania using max 100k troops with a leading role of elite strike drone units like Rubicon and Varyag. It would take few weeks indeed. I would do this fast enough to outdo NATO decision-making procedures and without endangering the Donbas op. This way i would reconnect Russian mainland with Kaliningrad. If NATO decided counter-op, i would credibily threaten with nukes.
>>543802889Some third world moaning about eternal Anglo
>>543802889Difference is back then the Anglos had the upper hand with half the planet under their thumb and were the ultimate gods of battlefield technology. Now England is a tiny island shithole full of pakis that is primed to explode in ethnic strife and their military is a joke.
>>543802803OK, ok, now i will sell my flat in Maxvorstadt and go back to Giesing
>>543802320You are delusional if you think those countries would send their troops to protect the baltics
>>543802929>You see all those wars the Anglos fermented inside the continent for centuries at our expense?>Muh your brown if don’t want another war on the continent that’s against europeans intrest My god you butthurt belters are fucking insane stockholmed traumatized whores.
>>543802458>"the anglo"Notice how they are not allowed to say the jews kekGood boy>inb4 antisemitism is imperialist decadence o algo
>>543803011see>>543802487all zigger arguments rely on unevidenced cope
>>543803011Britjeet is so funny. Imagine thinking cozy nordoids would commit to full scale war with Russia over some butthurt belt shithole. LOL. Not happening.
>>543803034You are a coward, last ones to be drafted in this hypothetical war. Still the most afraid of it.
worrying about estonia hahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahhaha nigga you russian alcoholic fuck off with your bullshitHH
>>543803091>Not wanting to end as Ukraine means your a cowardYou are mistakenly inter changing stupidity for bravery
>>543801149anything but being russia's bitch again.
>>543803091You are honorary butthurt belter and the exact same mongoloid rape baby genetic stock as Russia kek.
>>543803165If you don't show your flag I'm gonna assume you are from the Indian subcontinent
>>543803034look at the brownclown subhuman it is time that you with your rubber boat parents who are dimwitted and apes end up in a camp where we let you work so that we can wage our eternal wars.
>>543802846when I visited Finnland I discovered that your museums are full of 'we dindu nuffin in WWII, it was le evul Germans'. I saw ONE fucking sentence over 2 independent exhibits talking about Finnish independence that merely mentioned "foreign forces" who helped ie. they completely disappeared Imperial German govt. help that made it happen. Typical butthurt belt.Your 'culture' is a fantasyland self-soothing hugbox helping badly socialized idiots like you believe you are world beaters (you aren't, you are the shit on the anglos shoe). t.real German
>>543803069One unspoken detail is that a special military operation on the baltics would need America to be occupied somewhere else, like a land invasion on Iran. If America is occupied, Western European countries wouldn't send their own troops to the baltics. The whole baltic defence doctrine is about buying time for muttoids to arrive in mass.
Shit-Stainia is a post soviet newborn-state.It has barely existed for 30 years and is woefully if orsnt of the realities of the world. Simplify put: It fucks around, but is yet to find out. The memory of finding out hasn't been imparted on the surviving descendants yet. With such a size though , no country has gotten to the "surviving" stage as history shows.
>>543803193Fast response elicited kek must have struck a nerve. Shame you don’t have that coke whore pm running the show anymore since she would have slobbered on putins cock and saved all your males from the meat grinder.
>>543803202>WeThere is no we mehmet litterly only a portion of the 65+ boomers and teenage girls support this war which one are you?
>>543801149>ChunmooWhoever bought those, deserve to be drowned in their own fermented piss, lmao.
>>543801149>millionsshouldn't they use those milions of troops in Ukraine, if they plan to win any time soon
>>543802846dont talk shit you short grown soft viking. real vikings died out you are soft gay liberals who see too little sun.HH
>>543803264why are you scared you little stinking immigrant
>>543801149They have turned from an irrelevancy to and irrelevancy that is dangerous enough to be wiped out.The level of Baltic stupidity is mindboggling
>>543803235America is a paper tiger, they are bogged down by an Islamic shithole shooting flying lawnmowers from caves, imagine the national response when>we are initiating the draft to send Americans to help butthurtistan that 99/100 of you can’t even point to on a mapLOL
>>543803264wir arbeiten als EGB-Kräfte mein weicher freund.HH 88
>>543803264>digits match skin colorKek
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>>543801149baltoids will most likely start the provocation when economy kicks the bucket, things are looking more dire day by day herethe officials will need some form of a distraction for the population due to failing policies
>>543801184coughing chihuaua vs hydrogen bomb
>>543803219Germans were pretty useless in our front, mostly just sitting at their camps in far north, sipping coffee and looking pompous. Special mention should be given to detachment Kuhlmey, led by Kurt Kuhlmey. He and his luftwaffe detachment were real money and their help was crucially important.
>>543802317>Neutrality.Yeah, that ends well.
>>543803264Kek you angered out glownigger bot farm, 3 German flags replying at once.Just letting you know , it's their patethic job and literally nobody in Shitmany would fight for the Gubmershit, just like you said it's all 65+ Boomers.But the wagies in these "informational warfare" centers affiliated with NATO and various NGOs seething at you is so funny.
>>543803564mohammed ist ein kinderficker - richtig?
>>543802317Neutrality doesn't exist at the border of Mordor you stupid szubhumán
Who would've thought a few years ago that a bunch of cheap parts bolted together would change the face of warfare this much?
>>543801149Country with no nukes is shifting troops closer to a country with 5000 nukes.
>>543803564bruder sind deine eltern brownclowns? ist deine vorhaut weg? sind deine eltern mit dem schlauchboot gekommen? hahahahahahah du brauner hurensohn
>>543803874Thats natural for Russians who are basically a warfare geniuses. Soviet T-34 defeated complex German armor through a strategy of industrial scale and practical design over tactical perfection. Simplified manufacturing and standardized parts allowed the USSR to mass-produce over 84,000 T-34 variants, vastly outnumbering Germanys limited fleet of overengineered Panthers and Tigers. Features like sloped armor, wide mud-ready tracks, simple diesel engine made the tank easy to operate, maintain and field-repair. Ultimately, Soviet industrial capacity absorbed high combat losses and replaced destroyed tanks far faster than Germany could maintain or replace its heavy, mechanically fragile machines. Today we face even more devastating story in case of Russian mid-to-long range drones like Geran. They are far cheaper, smarter/effective, simpler, mass-produced and they have better specs than _any_ Western alternatives.Kamikaze drone commits a suicide, right? What does it mean? It means it must be a function of _lowest_ possible price and _highest_ possible effectiveness. Russians understand the game rules perfectly.
It's to send a signal to rusniggers. They understand only one thing - force.
>>543801149That’s because you’re a desktop warrior anon. The Estonians will need to evacuate children in the event of a war. This force buy them time to do so, it will also buy time for allies to mobilize so it won’t be for nothing.
>>543804131hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhaahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhaahahahahhahahahahaahah
>>543804131>warfare geniuses in mind
>>543801789You gotta be brown. Only a brown person would come up with the analogy of a bee stinging a person in self defense. You do know the bee dies after stinging you right?
>>543801149Estonians need to wake up.European genocide is US policy and Military doctrine.Estonians are disposable to the US, and the US government would like nothing more than for Estonian men to die fighting against Russians.
>>543801503Russniggers were so afraid that we'd invade St. Petersburg with like 15k troops during their civil war that they gave us independence.
>>543803219If you were so strong in the Finnish front then why did you have no chance in Lapland war? Us attacking Russia and putting them in camps was justified so what is that? Nothing. That's what we did. I'd tell you to kill yourself but you've already done that.
>>543802837Speaking out is gonna get you labeled as vatnik and potentially busified early on
>>543804131That’s the Iranian drone that Russia stole basically everything from and made it larger, really huge geniuses. If Russia were truly smart they’d make some kind of effective anti drone defense, be it using EMP, or using other smaller drones that seek out attack drones, something. like imagine ai powered autonomous drones that only attack other drones. That would help keep their troops alive. I think there needs to be something that can deter shit like reaper drones in the sky as well, that’s why Armenia got absolutely wreaked by Azerbaijan. Drones they got from Turkey that Turkey got from Israel that Israel got from us. you can’t make this up. Iran, China, no ko, any country under threat of regime change, Russia naturally need a response to this threat.
>>543804237Russia raped Germany. Germany never really raped Russia except of 1 year bltizkrieg when German expansion was truly impressive until it wasnt. Even goofy Bolanda can boast more historical evidence of dominating Moscow, thats why Russians currently celebrate independence from Poland, not from Germany - the Great Patriotic War events are basically rituals of shoving a dick deep into the German ass. Objectively and historically Poland scored bigger successes in Moscow occupation than Napoleon and Hitler combined. Sadly, todays Poland is a dying out whore of USrael/West, but hundreds years ago it was more respectable if we talk about its potential vs Russia
we are going to invade russia actually and end that piece of shit country finallythank us later
>>543804618And guess who’s raping Germany in 2026. I’ll give you a hint, it’s not Russia. The retarded NPCs want you to think that. Use some kind of mental gymnastics for it. It’s not Russias fault Germany is brown and lost its culture now.
>>543803357Boomer>>543803447Teenage gorl>>543803564Let them eat a TAP
>>543804659Isn’t Estonia like 70 percent Russian? Yall are closest to Russias second biggest city in St. Petersburg
>>543801218Ukraine wouldn't be in the mess it's in now if they'd mobilized before the invasion. It's sheer dumb luck that the deep rot of systemic russian corruption and incompetence snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
>>543804491Who tf cares just don’t end up as Ukraine get your people together NOW and start making plans how to not be meat catched
>watch ukraine constantly goat russia until it escalates into a war>watch what happened to ukraine>decide to do the samekek
>>543804784> if they'd mobilized before the invasionthey actually mobilized back in 2021
>>543804708goldfish mind & diabetic. sandnigga is fearful
>small country with joke of an economy puts up token effort>will be able to hold out for like a weekok keep me posted
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>>543804876Noon is gonna fight your wars nigger get the imports to do it (They won’t) good luck with those recruitment numbers
>>543802305Basically this; getting a little tired of this fake pole spamming up pages of his faggy analysis, am surprised anyone would pay him to do it.
>>543801184We are chihuahuas, yet you seem to talk about us alot.Makes you think huh, it's almost as if it's not the amount of people but the quality of a person that matters.
>>543801406If you say something, they'd probably pass you off as a russian disinfo agent. Very toxic political climate.
>>543805297>yet you seem to talk about us alotliterally the first time i posted about estonia everlet's be real, your country only exists so fingolians can get cheap booze there>it's almost as if it's not the amount of people but the quality of a person that mattersaccording to nato wargames you won't even last two days
>>543805297we talk about you because we expect you to be the next on the chopping block once Ukraine depletes its cannon fodder.dead chihuahua is something i didn't know i need but I want it now. way too many barking retards around, including in my own country. they need and deserve some reality check
>>543805130nigga what do you think you fat gen z nigga what this is? minecraft you soft fearful bitch ass nigga grow some balls. the war is coming whether you want it or not and whether you fight does not depend on you my little young pants shitter others decide that. turn off the computer do sports you son of a bitch and grow some balls you goddamned dutch cuntHH nigga
>>543805744> the war is coming whether you want it or notany moment now. give or take 14 days. hold your breath.
>>543804590 >That’s the Iranian drone that Russia stoleYou must understand that Iran, Russia and China form a subtle ecosystem. Some of this ecosystem is visible like China-Iran 25 years strategic cooperation program from 2021, some is not.Iranians, Russians and Chinese are highly cultured and intelligent people who cooperate and support each other than rather simpleton West does in relatiin to itself and its proxies like Ukraine directly and bluntly fed with all possible Western high end weapon systems. China, Russia, North Korea and Iran develop subtle and hard-to-detect supply/tech lines resistant to Westoid sanctions for decades.Historically, the swarm-attrition concept predates Iran. Soviet doctrine studied missile/drone swarm coordination since the USSR era, and Soviet loitering munition R&D began in the mid-20th century. Chinas PLA explicitly traces swarm tactics to 13th-century Mongol horde warfare and has pursued UAV swarm research since the 1960s. Irans Shahed merely operationalized a Sino-Soviet doctrinal lineage.The Shaheds attrition-swarm logic is not exclusive Tehrans invention. Russia license-produces it, replacing 95% of components with domestic and Chinese parts - engines, guidance chips, antennas, blahblah. Moscows Geran swarms overload Ukrainian air defenses by 400%, a tactic now flowing back to Iran. Beijings doctrine explicitly embraces "mass offsetting technological superiority" via cheap drones. The "genius calculation" is Chinese-Russian. It is not only Iran and Houthis undermining petrodollar now. Wake up, Mutt xD
>>543806062>Chinese are highly cultured
>>543804131>Meanwhile back in realityI give pidorland a week before their airports and factories are levelled by NATO air force, then once we are done with their air defence, relentless fucking with jdams, long range drones and total power grid annihilation just ot freeze as many pidors as we can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcWM_1hBu_c&list=RDWcWM_1hBu_c&start_radio=1
>>543805660russia can't even take luhansk
>>543806182They are. Every single Chinese i ever met in my life (including low tier working class) sounds like a professor if we talk about geopolitics, technology, economy, engineering etc, compared to actual Westoid "professors" inventing new genders xD
>>543805744>2 more weeksGood luck with that and the day the draft starts is the day this entire globohomo projects implodes and the capital cities burn to the ground. 20 years of genocidal replacement migration and 80 years of anti Nationalist self hate propoganda has that effect. The enemy is in brussels and our own traitor elite not in Russia and everybody that would have fought knows this. Good luck your gonna need it.
>>543806332and how many of them did you meet? two?
>>543806230>I give pidorland a week before their airports and factories are levelled by NATOZesrasz się na rzadko, polski świnopasie. Prawda jest taka, że weźmiesz sto chujów w dupsko, a w międzyczasie twoi zachodni sponsorzy będą negocjować przyszły układ sił z Rosją twoim kosztem xD
>>543805660Idc about my country because it's getting fucked by liberal jews but the reality isn't what you think it is neither.Russia is weaker than alot may think , but it has alot of "allies" and nukes ofc, if they didn't have nukes they would be fucked from all sides.Given the chance, everyone would stab them in the back because nobody likes them overall because they have been untrustworthy throughout history.It's like sucking up to your grandma because she is rich.
>>543806062>You must understand that Iran, Russia and China form a subtle ecosystemsubtle ecosystem: china treats both countries as its two retarded little brothers while farming them for all the resources it can, and will inevitably get away scott free while europe/US have to spend all their money rebuilding iran/russia just so they can chimp out again in 20-30 years
>>543806440Ryja pizdeczko i wypad do pidorlandi zjebie zanim Ukraina rozpierdoli tej zimy pidorburg i moskwe do tego stopnia ze twoj karzelek krelmlowski wypadnie przez okno.
>>543806619kto niby rozpierdoli jak wszyscy tutaj spierdalacie? xD
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>>543805541NATO can think what it wants as it won't probably exist in the near future anyway along with the sovereignity of my country.Also, let's be real your country only exists because Hitler failed to terminate the slavic kikes from europe and the russians just got tired of you. Same as us actually if you think about it.
>>543806808cope
>>543801789Lol zigger shills seething over this
>>543804175> we'll send a chihuahua to signal one thing - FORCE. Russia will understand!are you a literal retard?
>>543806808>NATO can think what it wants as it won't probably exist in the near future anyway along with the sovereignity of my country.true, nato will serve no purpose and can be disbanded after russia has lost its sovereignty and has become a chinese mining/oiling outpost
>>543801149Anon, literally nobody cares if Estonians go extinct. Least of all Estonians themselves.
>estonia plans a garrison force in its border town>an entire thread of people that dont care about estonia seethinghuh?
Kill all russian nigger invaders
>>543806404Dozens, including 3 people close to CCP, the rest being a mix of businessmen and an average-Joe working class.
>>543807361Caring about Estonia is a lost art
>>543806485well, unlike you I do care about my country and that's why i hate retarded russophobes with a passion.> if they didn't have nukescounterpoint: they DO have nukes. 1 small nuke to the capitol will DELETE 1/3 of the population and 1/2 of the economy of the country, instantly. even if they decide to keep it conventional (it'll be THEIR choice, not ours, mind you) we only need a few bigger rockets to our strategic industry sites: the nuclear power plant (built by USSR, btw) and our bigger refinery (built by USSR and owned by Lukoil, btw). and we'll be in the stone age for decades to come.so yeah, let's provoke Russia some more, what could possibly go wrong?
>>543801149>against Russias millionsReminder: As of 2023 (3 years of attrition ago), Russia did not have the spare combat power to deter the Azerbaijanis from attacking the Armenians.This is an objective fact that is beyond any propaganda dispute, and a demonstration of Russia's "strength" at that point. (and they've only gotten weaker)
>>543801149internal political posturing. estonia does nothing but produce hot women to get railed by rich degenerate arabs and seethe at russia, which has no inherent value other than for domestic politics. this is basically a cashgrab from the war industrialists.
>>543807697>estonia is oppresing russians>lets liberate those russians with nukesbrilliant
>>543807786Reminder: As of 2026 USrael did not have the spare combat power to deter the Houthis from conquering 5400km2 of Yemen along with strategic islands and daily pounding critical Saudi oil infrastructure with drones and missiles
>>543807996US and houties have a ceasefire agreementsaudis dont
>>543807996That is completely true, and in context, a pathetic cope that has nothing to do with what I said.Yes Virginia, Trump is destroying American power in the same way that Putin destroyed Russia's.Watching Putin do it first is why Trump should have known better and will go down as historically stupid.
>>543807361If your leadership is telling you it's purely defensive, you need to be more skeptical. Ukraine's losing but the goal of balkanizing Russia hasn't changed, so you should expect that you or some other member of the Baltic states will be put up for sacrifice next, with the ultimate goal of getting Poland into the war.The American and British governments have decided against peace and, apparently, that decision applies to all of you.>>543807916Gib Estonian GFThen again actually, why don't we let Estonia join the war? I never got one of those Ukrainian refugee GFs, maybe I can try again with Estonian refugees.
>>543807697>russians forgetting that both sides have nukes for the 65435346th time
>>543808125USrael is a combination of billions dollar worth propaganda, deindustrialisation, ridiculous weakness, scam, thievery and anti-humanism betting everything on AI algorithms replacing humans. Their only goal is posing as "strong" while being fucking weak. It feeds on delusions, Hollywood brainwashing and Jewish talmudic anti-morality it stole from Jews. It is a nothingness that exists only because nobody seriously tried to kill this subhuman creation yet.
>>543808273ah yes, we are actually planning to retake jaanilinn
>>543807973as an-ex USSR state you have that advantage, yes. hiding behind your russian population so they won't use nukes on you. smart, even if it's a double edged sword (Ukraine got attacked exactly for that reason, remember). but we and other small counties like us don't have that luxury. so we have to take that into account (we don't).
>>543801789>stinging you in self defense and leaving the stinger inside you. Sure, this maneuver will kill itwhen i was a child like 7 years old i went in the garden, took bees off of flowers and made them sting eachother and also my hands. i didn't give a fuck about getting stung bro. not even a thousand stings would hurt me.
>>543801149>against Russias millionsAre those millions in the room with you right now?
>>543808346This I wanna seeSo russians still can't deal with big estoniam dreams
>>543807697>even if they decide to keep it conventional (it'll be THEIR choice, not ours, mind you)You're a fucking retard babbling Russia's nonsense."Russia's choice" there is simply whether to commit suicide. That's all the nukes are. Its "Don't come near my capital, or I kill us all!" There is NO OTHER USE for nukes because EVERY OTHER USE just instantly gets your capital nuked back.Russia can cope about, "but they wouldn't dare~!", yet the game theory has been settled for decades.Literally all we are hearing is WORDS that deny obvious reality. (and reminder: Putin doesn't actually have the ball for nuclear threats. Its always a vague implication because even the threat has consequences.)
>>543807786>>543807996both of you are correct
>>543808548And unified by a theme:>>543808215
>>543808439russians enter arguments under like a dozen different delusions so its generally not worth engaging with them except to poke holes in their inane logicif they actually viewed things objectively they might become self reflect, be humbled and take a step on the long road to becoming human. naturally they choose the other route
>>543808276I don't give a flying fuck what happens to Funland. Go to war with Russia all you want, use all your nukes (not really yours, but hey), conquer Moscow, etc, etc. just don't drag ME into your retardation, fellow NATO member.
>>543808680>just don't drag MEIt doesnt work like this. They drag you because they cant do the fighting on their own xD
>>543808348>(Ukraine got attacked exactly for that reason, remember)and the whole reason for the garrison force
>>543806332>sounds like a professor if we talk about geopolitics, technology, economy, engineering etc, compared to actual Westoid "professors"Well, that's a phenomena, only you will encounter
>>543808306>14 posts by this ID>all of them are glazing ziggersDude stop sucking russian cock so much.
>>543808680>>543808735sorry u guys will have to help us (you two are obviously real NATO country users) its just the way it is
>>543808383Idk, these stings into your cuck country are lasting more than a day. Maybe if you suck russian cock well enough they will let them heal, right?
>>543808680>I don't give a flying fuck what happens to XBecause you're subhuman.Protip: At this point, all the of the humans who DON'T want to be crushed together into a single culture and ethnicity called "Russian" or some other empire, must become allies to each other.You don't "care" what happens to the other guy, but you UNDERSTAND that your fates are linked.If you can't grasp that, and you just sit there and undermine your own people by arguing for "independence" that makes you a target and a victim, then you are a subhuman, and anybody who shuts you down and marginalizes you within your society is a savior to your people.
>>543806386oh no we did nothing for decades and now we have to live with consequences. dont talk shit you soft son of a bitch. you will fight like everyone else you faggot dutchman hahaha
>>543801149Saar tallinn in 3 days saar
>>543808784Spalimy was kurwy żydowskie na waszych drukowanych dolarach. Istnienie polińskiego bardaku to grosze w cenie jaką jestem w stanie zapłacić za zniszczenie żydozachodniego ludobójczego systemu xD
>nafoturds came out to seethe in the past 20 years russia has done nothing other than promote pro-russian europarties and defend its own minorities in neighbouring countries. every country does that. all you had to do was leave their allies ie syria alone, you just had to not support alqaeda lmao.
>>543809096your country is in NATO though
>>543809121Thats a vpn-ivan
>>543808439> There is NO OTHER USE for nukes because EVERY OTHER USE just instantly gets your capital nuked backso we're told by uncle Sam for decades. but do we believe uncle Sam in this day and age? do we believe the orange retard in charge? or the rainbow retards that parrot Cold War sabre rattling?hmmm?personally, I don't believe a word american says. USA is actively working to destroy Europe for decades now. And I'm to believe you'll help us? you'll "avenge" us? hell no.
>>543801149"Shifting troops" like they have some massive army...lol. Shifting troops for them is telling 10 guys to walk a few miles down the road.
>>543809121im against all that clearly.
>>543809178you wish ukroturd. the times, they are a-changin.
>>543809206>Shifting troops for them is telling 10 guys to walk a few miles down the roadit is so i dont get what people are seething about itt
>>543809193>so we're told by uncle Sam for decades.>but do we believe uncle Sam in this day and age?Ah, see that's the awesome thing about education when its not indoctrination: A lot of us can KNOW THINGS FOR OURSELVES without having to trust an authority figure like some fucking peon."Uncle Sam" did not "invent" the game theory that has kept nukes from being used for decades, but if you are uneducated, you could never tell the difference because all knowledge is "mysterious" like this.
I thought Russia was a failed third world mongrel army that was failing in Ukraine? Now its a threat again or something? Which is it nafo?
>>543809258Agreed. The seethe is unnecessary. I just always get a kick out of European nations larping as serious military powers.>But the US military sucks!!!!!Yes I know. Yet somehow Euro militaries are even worse.
>>543801510You are retarded. Let's start with the fact that establishing and staging agents would be better off as a peace-time effort with a functional intelligence agency - even then it's quite difficult to find people willing to do these attacks and the effort and cost is astronomical. Hell not even muslim terrorist organizations have an easy time preparing attacks and not on the scale to affect countries like a 911.But aside from that, let's say you have your 9000 soldiers willing to bomb, rape and murder. How do you keep that strategy a secret before the war? How do you move 9000 men and material into enemy cities and behind their lines when they expect you? How do you motivate them if you don't bother with a defense? Their country won't exist anymore by the time they reach moscow. How will public opinion see you when you're willing to abandon your duty to protect your country? When you abolish your armed forces to train terrorists and leave your people unprotected?If you don't plan to fight, why take those spiteful losses to begin with? What do you gain? What detterence do you actually create? Annoying to deal with means spending time, manpower and resources on heavy fortifications and suffering deep strikes from standoff munition with the possibility of NATO intervention.
>>543809331The war in Ukraine has proven that Russia being in a compromised, ruinous position will not prevent them from taking further ruinous action.Literally all they have left is "Gambling for resurrection" and lies.
>>543809217then why did you join it>>543809178i mean i doubt it since if i was russian i would be filled with such pride that id never step over my flag like that
>>543809393American posters have some kind of autism where they lack introspection and humility when they post about other country's ability to successfully fight wars - you haven't won a war since 1945.
>>543804784It's a good thing for the world that Russia is as incompetent and corrupt as America is fat and religious
>>543809451I literally said I know our military sucks...
>>543809409Right so all the intel reports from Washington based military think tanks and institutes like the ISW releasing monthly reports about the crippling state and diminished force Russia has become since February 2022, was all bullshit and Russia magically has still has the power projection to encroach on Baltic NATO-allied states. This isn't making sense big guy, I think you know that.
>>543808850> Because you're subhuman.oh, yeah. call me a subhuman and expect me to do your bidding? totally worked for Hitler, kek. oh wait, it didn't and he killed himself. > you UNDERSTAND that your fates are linkedyou got it wrong, nigger. our fates are our own. we were with Germany twice, then with USSR once, now we're with EU and NATO, and no fortune teller can say where we'll be tomorrow. let alone some american retard on a mongolian basket waving forum
>>543809193Im glad you are finally learning something we have have know all along. Never trust your defense to others.
>>543809522After Iran, can you even say you're more capable than any euro power?
>>543809451We win a war every time someone buys our weapons to fight them.
>>543809670I guess Obama won in Syria then
>>543801149>Estonia moves disposable diplomatic tripwires for Article 5We have some cannon fodder over there too for drafting the goyim for ww3
>>543809668Yes. Like I said as bad as we are, you guys somehow manage to be worse.
>>543809721Yep. You are still thinking with the old colonial mindset like life is some grand chess match or RTS game where putting your flag on the map means you "win" or "lose". Most wars dont actually matter in the grand scheme of things. Territory will change hands again and again regardless of the outcome of wars. How many nations gained independence from you simply by voting themselves out after having historically lost wars to Britain?Money and resources are the only things in life that really matter. And thats why the outcomes of wars dont really matter to us as long as we profit off them.
>>543809847Can't really say that when euro powers haven't had the opportunity. You fucked up a war with ragheads in the desert, to add to your tally of losing to communist rice farmers and other raghead varieties.
>>543809847Dont humor these has been nations. They still havent gotten over the fact that they are no longer in the drivers seat of history. Just goes to show that "winning" the war against germany didnt do them much good when they bankrupted themselves to do it. Lost their empire to win a war to stop germany from gaining dominance in europe only for germany to basically control the EU. The irony is delicious.
>>543809938And yet we still stand no worse for the wear. Funny how that works eh?
>>543809328lo and behold, american flag talking about EDUCATION. holy kek.
>>543809848Thats a cute thing to say when you're currently losing a war to Iran and failing the objectives you set out yourself. Seems to me like its more than just profiting, you sacrificed your own servicemen in a war for Jews against arabs, what was the profit there again? $7 gas prices? Talk about 12d chess
>>543809984gas price check big guy
>>543803827That's exactly why the high elves are attacking pidor mordor first before orcs get too cocky with Saruman's backing. See how pidors are dying at least 20 to 1 right now trading ukruh-hais 30 to 1? Its would be only 4-5 per human if the pidors launched the attack first fully prepared. Its always better how kill subhumans first than wait for them to attack you. Humanitarian pidor cleansing does, indeed, work.
>>543809848> Money and resources are the only things in life that really matteryour jew masters taught you well, little burger. +100 points to your credit rating.
>>543802493>They don't want free territoryWhy?
>>543810390What even helps you cope man
>>543810480buffer zones. google it.
>>543810502I'm sooo upset at seeing my troops killing endless meat waves of pidors, daily, seeing pig snatching videos there they get beaten and maimed openly in their own streets while the police watches and does nothing upsets me too, lol. It really upsets me comparing the amount of weapons used and seeing how well svinorez safari is going right now. It always a sad for someone to see how his army mowing down a horde of orcs on the other side. I'm really upset about this, tarasik-pidorasik.
>>543810772>russian penal battalion gets shot by russianKEKKeep on
>>543810946When you have to hide after deserting in a foreign country so you don't die in a state mandated meat wave you know you are winning.
>>543809029>3 ruble zostały przelane na twoje konto
>>543811320The fuck are rambling about?I still remeber your vidrel from 2023Where you lobbed, your prison battalions against ukie defenceBtw, you if you nigger would post the high res vidrel. We could see the russian camo better
Guys im cumming right now
>>543812063> no, you!you still remember it, Hans. hohols are the good guys, they'd never do such a thing. oh, wait..
>>543809630>our fates are our ow-AAKKKKKKKKKKAnd now your children are Russia's slaves forever, like all the arrogant filth before you.There is a name for people who "Think they can take on the world", they're called children.
>>543812522Kek, this slop againI mean, you could post vidrel of shit that actual happend, but here wie are looking at slop
>>543812063Even now obsolete prison soldiers had 7 to 1 kill/death ratio against literal horde of third world ukraninans in Bahmut meat waves, which was surrounded from three sides by Russian artillery killed for normal Russian troops it would be considered an abysmal ratio. How much propaganda do you have to consume to even think for a second what a high tech professional army which fights on 99% with bombs can lose even remotely the same at the side with fight as a fact with kidnapped slaves and barrier troops? This entire war nothing but hordes of meat waves slaves getting porked by Russia bombs, just like in today's bombing of Kiev you have hundred of Russia drones hitting unooposed while pidor side considers a national celebration even if one of their drones hit the target in Russia. Its exactly the same on the battlefield, Russia bombs the ukranian die (1000-1500 a day), a natural state of things. Even Russian prison troops were volunteered while 90% of the ukranian troops are slaves which are routinely getting killed by their own if they try to run or surrender. Quality and civilization against savagery and ass raping on the ukranian side, all it is.
>>543812916The picture is real, i checked it myself. It is effect of annual ultraorthodox Jewish Rosh Hashanah gathering in Ukraine, held in Uman, Cherkasy Oblast. Tens of thousands of Hasidic pilgrims visit the tomb of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov. Thats why you can see them on this pic. Meanwhile TCK abducting a gentile hohol-meat is just an everyday reality concidencing with it xD
>>543801457i'm not reading all of that
>>543801149Based. keep russniggers out of the country.
>>543813295You have no culture.Your entire culture revolves around "I hate Russia!"Butthurt belter lol>>543813295
>>543812873> now your children are Russia's slaves foreverany moment now. 2 weeks give or take. but no fear. when uncle Sam defeats Iran for 123th time, he'll come to the rescue, again, and shelter arrogant filthy me under the warm and safe NATO wing, again. i mean,>>543809632that guy is an idiot. a little country can't really "defend" against a superpower on its own.but it can switch sides, again. or pretend "neutrality" for some time, before everyone and his dog know which camp it actually belongs to (like the scandys and swiss, who were always western aligned)
>>543812957So, it is true that the competen glowies died with priggo. The old one Bad atleast some creativity with their bullshit claimsBut today even the glowie are jeet tier>muuuhh exchange rateNigger, even your MoD don't want your nigger bodies back. Ukraine stated multiple times, they have a shit ton of dead russians left
>>543813384>any moment now. 2 weeks give or take.Bro, I am not threatening you.The reason why you are presently NOT under threat of such a thing is because of NATO.You're fucking welcome, ingrate.>but it can switch sides, again. or pretend "neutrality" for some timeAnd you think empires don't know those games?For fuck's sake, you moron, the only reason the Finns got to be "neutral" for so long was because they they massacred Russians BEFORE THAT in the fight of their fucking lives.
>>543813356i wouldnt respect this opinion if it came from a russian but i instantly gave it some honest thought since a belgian made it. godspeed. keep making them waffles
>>543801149Let me guess, Baltics should dismantle all fortifications, destroy their weapons and dismiss their entire armed forces?
>>543813561so it seems. if the butthurt belters wish to live, theyd best kill themselves now
>>543801510>I never understood these tiny countries trying to fight larger conventional powersVietnam beat the US and Afghanistan beat both the US and Russia
>>543801623There is no “nato” you retardEurope is utterly demilitarized and couldn’t field and staff a single full strength combined arms force between the totality of themselvesNATO exists only on paper , and in the delusion of Baltic cargo cult nations who still believe the US is some Magic alien tech race hovering in orbit waiting for the Article5 button to summon them and delete Russia from space
>>543813702>NATO exists only on paper , and in the delusion of Baltic cargo cult nations who still believe the US is some Magic alien tech race hovering in orbit waiting for the Article5 button to summon them and delete Russia from spaceWell said. Yup, you perfectly described Poles and Balts expectations. They hope for the US of A to defeat Russia for them so they could consume craft burgers xD
>>543813561Lmao you are already essentially completely and totally demilitarized in every meaningful sense and precisely zero “western nato” militaries are doing even the most basic bitch attempt to modernize with massive drone offfense integration You nato vassals, especially Balts have military doctrine 30 years out of date designed to operate as delaying forces for a US that no longer gives a shit about your meaningless economic. Zones.The west has no industry, no doctrine and no desire to even attempt preparing for the new generation of war with drones. Not even slight token attempts despite seeing 5 years of war in ukriane
>>543801149>The doctrine is bizarreso its perfect nafo bullshittery
>>543803526actually some soldiers were allowed to choose where they wanted to be deployed, if they voluntarily enrolled in the military. ive heard the north front was a popular choice among those people as a less dangerous option. so essentially you got a lot of people in those troops who tried desperately to not have to properly fight.
>>543813840euros and balts fundamentally refuse to accept that article5 simply means they fight for the US not the other way around. There is no scenario that US boots hit ground while a single living Balt male draws breath. And even when the last one dies to the Russian FPV, the US would then simply do a Russian MOU and peace out from the continent while the previously yapping chiuahah balts sat with smoldering infrastructure and prolapsed bootie holesIt’s pretty funny how ludicrous smug and arrogant euros have been in this war, and at this point Londons perfidious behavior with all the strikes it enables ukraine to do it should have never ever done is going to merit some “IOU’s” being passed out to everyone who enables this war in spades soon
>>543813702>NATO exists only on paperhol up, why is russia so worried about nato expansion?
>>543814047Lmao exactly delusionally provacative threats to attack Russian cultural sites and shit in Moscow or St. Petersburg to “humiliate” Russia and “bring the war to their civilians” that would only result in massive retaliation on the balt for having such shit eating , self defeating doctrine designed by someone in london who thinks its “funny”
