Oui oui, today we finally separate from Canada and stop leeching off Alberta.
>>543817971You've been saying that since 2000.
>>543817971>today Quebec decides which flavor of faggot is going to import more Haitians and Arabs to "save the French Language" for the next 4 yearsI don’t even get the point of being a separatist
>>543817971Reminder that past year immigrants, more than 85% are french speaking niggers
>>543818388Not even arabs (most french speaking ones are north africans), they literally bring ebola infested niggers from niggerfica just because muh french
>>543818573I remember watching the 12:30 political show on RDI few years back and the separatist dude was bragging about his mudshark daughter's half nigger kids while insisting Qiebec needs to be an independent country to preserve its culture. Lmao wtf, you let your daughter spawn nigglets don't talk to me about how you need save your people with independence.
Do it, faggot
>>543818812Unfortunately modern Québec nationalism is pretty much entirely of the civnat variety
>>543818965Civic nationalism is an oxymoron, like good jew or clean jeet.
>>543817971>leeching off Albertadumbass qunt with no conception of reality, genuinuely has no idea that "albertan separatism" is a russian psyop>je me souviens!!!fucking nuke quebec
>>5438182111980
>>543818388Don’t care. Gtfo
>>543819498Kys
>>543819498>russian psyopgo back to the nursing home boomer retard
French in North America would be absolutely finished if Canada came apart. Separatists are utter morons.
Reposting from another thread.Sovereignty made sense in 1980 and 1995 since Ontario had been shitting on us for centuries but things have improved a lot since. Besides, if there's at least one thing our politicians have proven over the years, it's that they need the federal government to tardwrangle them. I don't trust PSPP one bit, fucker will stab us in the back if Quebec does become independent.And there's no way Americans won't try to annex us even after Trump leaves office, if anything leaving Canada will only make things easier for them. Divide and conquer.
>>543817971Monquebecers really are importing algerianiggers so quebec can truly end up like france. Odd that the city of Montreal is some how the redeeming factor of the province.
>>543820960lmfao i'm younger than you, facebook slopnigger.
>>543819498Go back to plebbit
>>543821374>facebook slopniggerOh the irony
>>543821397as if i would ever use that cancer site. do you have something to say or are you just going to cry because i made fun of your brainlet province?
>>543821227Sovereignty always and will always make sense, because Canada was built as a wealth extraction and centralization structure from the periphery to the center, its only accidentally that Montreal ended up profiting from this, because it became the secondary/tertiary residence of rich Ontarians who ended up propping up parts of the city. Since 1980, the Feds have doubled down on removing all the industrial and economic distinctions between Montreal and Ottawa, thus weakening Montreal by result. Annexing Quebec is pretty much just as hard as annexing Canada as a whole, for the US. Independence won't trigger a tank rush or anything of the sort, at least not if none was already planned. >>543821235>Odd that the city of Montreal is some how the redeeming factor of the province.If that's your opinion of Montreal, I can safely say none of us care to be in your good graces.
>>543817971separation isn't going to happen don't be sillyI'm not voting but it's going to be funny to see what the results are, kind of hoping QS or PQ get the most votes
>>543822180That's nice and all, but it doesn't change the fact that Quebec is pretty much left with no military if we leave the country. Like I said, divide and conquer.
>>543822785>that Quebec is pretty much left with no militaryThere would probably be a transfer of assets, too many important bases are in Quebec, Canada probably would not be able to afford simply relocating it in its entirety, so something would have to be worked out for the transition. But, in any case, if anyone thinks we are ready for a referendum tomorrow just because the PQ got in and has their Constitution ready, they are fucking retards. The PQ in 95 had 40 billions in cash earmarked for the purpose of balancing out any economic issue, and something like 120 billions to be potentially unlocked as well. It'll take a while to prepare whatever we'll need this time around. >>543822785>Like I said, divide and conquer.That's already to their benefit without any annexation bid, that was the point of the paper that caused the whole ingerence non-story last week, the US doesn't need to turn us into their newer states if they can break us down in more manageable parts, we are already integrated economically and militarily. The 51st state thing probably ends with Trump. Not necessarily the antagonistic negotiating tactics, but the political cost of pushing for it outweighs the benefits, and that should be clear to anyone except someone who's given up because what, they gonna put a dying man in prison for being President now? Lol no.
>>543817971Do I vote PQ or Conservatives?Open to advice, digits and I will comply.
>>543823953PQ won't do shit on its own, so it's whether or not you want to give the Tories a fighting chance against the misinformation Libs.
>>543817971cool
>>543823953PQ accelerate
>>543824533Abolishing the Senate is just another step toward demagoguery, it needs to be reinstated into what its supposed to be, the academic support arm of the Executive & Legislative. Jurisdictional priority is based on Constitutional competencies division and there should not be any overlap to start with, if there is, that's something the Provinces should get together and fight. The 12-month residency thing is a weird one, it may have legally changed since I was in Alberta, but back then (2004-2016) you guys voluntarily didn't not set up those requirements. I got a check for 400$ from the Province about 2 weeks after moving in Red Deer, obviously that's an error, right, I'm just freshly arrived, I might not even had done my IDs yet, so I call the gov and ask them and they *insist* that's my money because if I live in Alberta I'm an Albertan and automatically get all of these, regardless of the time spent there... The lady even got pissed at me when I said I really didn't see myself as an Albertan yet anyways... But, I also wouldn't be surprised if the feds had somehow mandated that all services are automatically given from day 0 in the last decade, it could also be that.
>>543823953Do not vote Conservative. They are not conservative at all. They still support feminism, faggotry and troon faggotry. Do you seriously expect a party that is accepting of fags to have a serious immigration policy? If we go on process of elimination, the only party I would go for is PQ.
>>543823754>But, in any case, if anyone thinks we are ready for a referendum tomorrow just because the PQ got in and has their Constitution ready, they are fucking retards. The PQ in 95 had 40 billions in cash earmarked for the purpose of balancing out any economic issue, and something like 120 billions to be potentially unlocked as well. It'll take a while to prepare whatever we'll need this time around.That we can agree on, at least. To be real here, I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm against the mere idea of Quebec becoming sovereign but there's too many factors that lead me to believe that it's currently a terrible idea. I wish Pierre Falardeau was still alive, would've loved to hear his thoughts on the current state of affairs.
So, ummm... Who do I vote for again?
>>543825627> He thinks there's a party out there that will take a stance against fags. Lol. Don't vote Cons because its a wasted vote, go for PQ, but whoever holds on to any hope they'll walk back on sexual minorities policies is fucking lost beyond all hope. Only thing is, a lot of non-montrealers french-can womyn hover toward the TERF side of the equation, so the troon part of the question is still somewhat in play. This is compensated by Montreal being the absolute centrifugal troonmaxxing capital of North America, however, so...
For those who don’t speak French, the projected winner is an ultra nationalist guy rumored to be a white supremacist. Hates Israel and Arabs and is a hardliner for an immigration ban from countries with “incompatible values” (basically anywhere in Africa and the Middle East). The (((feds))) have been trying really hard to tank his campaign because (((they))) know what his real plans are and (((they))) don’t like it.
>>543825912>but there's too many factors that lead me to believe that it's currently a terrible ideaI also agree 100% on that. If anything, Alberta failing in 2 weeks will clearly hurt us on the optics alone. Boomers have spent more of their lives living in their "oh well if we didn't make it happen, it won't happen" mindset, I don't think PSPP can go and reach that many, but any who would have been leaning toward a yes will go back into familiar territory after. The Trump card being in play is also not great, I don't think it would be that huge of a factor, but its a wild card, you can't really every tell. The only really good thing we'd have going on for us right now is that Carney has been making noises about wanting to restart the immigration machine in the last month, after saying he would curtail it at pretty much every occasions since the election.
>>543824812>>543825627>>543824067Well, I won't for the Liberals at any level.My concerns for this election are:Conservatives are gay jew-dick-suckers who will import jeets.PQ are French fags (I'm anglo) who will import infinity niggers as long as they speak French.
>>543826357>the projected winner is an ultra nationalist guy rumored to be a white supremacistNot really? He defended his organization's policy of letting white supremacists & marxists (and anyone who isn't an outright criminal) attending his open discussions events, if they remain polite.
Where we're going we're not going to need a referendum...
>>543826117My point was that you cannot trust "Conservatives" to actually conserve, because they are not conservative themselves.At least when you read the PQ's immigration papers, they actually go in detail on how mass immigration causes insecurity and lists many examples of incidents in Europe.
>>543817971How will you pay for all the welfare and shit? Y'all should join Europe since you're more European than the Anglo pedophiles.
>>543826892Pro-tip: he kicked out everyone with a sliver of connection to Israel from his caucus.
>>543826733Cope harder. PSPP has internally discussed “temporary” immigration ban from “incompatible” countries and travel bans.
>>543827020It's not going to be easy, but there's a few ways we can generate cash quickly. Power costs are regulated and the gov is incredibly lenient in allowing you to pay late, like, years. Selling one or two big dams or buckling to the AI center requests would give us a quick influx. Imposing limits on university program acceptances (depending on the program) could help trim a lot of fat. Plus, we'd free up nearly half of our taxes. People forget that through the Perequation talks, but we pay for a lot of those programs through our how pocket.
>>543827092Yeah, but odds are better that that's purely a good strategic move from a separatist leader, given that Jews and Israel have at each point in time supported the Feds against Quebec, and very actively so. One of the greatest trick the Feds pulled in 1980 was getting one of their own in Levesque's inner council and getting him to drop the Parliementary Act option.
>>543827180This is why I'm considering PQ, but realistically, despite whatever rumours about internal discussion are, they will probably just continue to shovel French speaking blacks in. What is an "incompatible country" in this context? One where they don't speak French?
>>543825627>>543823953One valid option
>>543818211And the Fed has been doing everything it can to stop it since.
>>543827949>What is an "incompatible country" in this context?Muslim
>>543818573This. Trying to get my lily white American wife in, and the Quebec immigration is giving me endless grief because her French isn't good enough.Meanwhile they are filling a neighboring town with so many coal black Africa niggers that it is reaching American inner-city tier crime rate, and the public transit has become unusable.All because all the provincial parties are beholden to the fuckin business owners who cry and cry if they can't get a workforce of minimum wage slaves.And yet despite this we're still infinitely better off than the rest of Cucknada.
>>543826733according to the PQ, India has “incompatible values” with Quebec because of Islam and rape culture.
>>543828209Our next First Lady by the way
>>543828095Unless they're Algerian or Moroccan, of course. Those are heckin BASED French-speaking Muslims
>>543821227>Sovereignty made sense in 1980 and 1995 since Ontario had been shitting on us for centuriesYou dumb nigger separatism infinitely more important now that Ontario has an open door to India immigration policy. Every year the population balance slips away from Quebec that only lets in 60% of what the rest of Canada does.Soon those Jeets will start seeping over from Ontario and NB/NS too.We need separatism to get real control of our immigration, but this also requires a party willing to tell the business owners to fuck of with their desire for brown slaves.
Mon frère de sang québécois tu peux me dire dans combien de temps sont les résultats savoir si je me couche ou pas
>>543828399Settle down, ok?
>>543828301White Christians Algerians (pieds noirs) can stay. The rest would be covered by a blanket PQ travel ban + value test. Also the nationalist French want to ban Islamic religious symbols from public spaces.
>>543827092I remember that PQ dude on October 7th 2023 calling it a tragedy and defending Israel. News Article probably still available online. They all serve Israel and jews, if not they would not be politicians in the jewish theater for the plebs.
>>543828493>>543827092>Pro-tip: he kicked out everyone with a sliver of connection to Israel from his caucus.Fell for it again award goes to you. They ALL serve the jews and ALL pushed for the covid jabs.
>>543827949>What is an "incompatible country" in this context? One where they don't speak French?Any country that exports its laws or lawlesness with it. Indian, China, most of Africa, Haiti, etc. >>543818573Haitians comes as refugees, even with lower immigration we'd probably still be forced to let them in. I'm from Quebec City and there's practically no black folks within 200km of it, so I can only say this from my visits in Montreal, but Ivory Coast blacks are nothing like Haitians, if there's absolutely no choice it'd take them over arabs or haitians any day of the week.
>>543828399Ontario/Quebec border in 10 years
>>543827992>>543828095I mean, I guess that's the best that can be realistically hoped for, but I'm not optimistic. I'm leaving work early to vote in ten minutes. So far PQ seems like the best option, although I bet my Liberals win my riding. This neighborhood is mainly indian, Filipino and Jewish.
>>543828423On va commencer a avoir des resultats approximatifs dans ~4h, le "gagnant" devient clair habituellement, vers 22-23h EST, mais le tout n'est qu'officiel au decompte de demain.
>>543828831> This neighborhood is mainly indian, Filipino and Jewish.PLQ wins it for sure. Buddy of mine told me there were 5 Indian names registered to vote at his address despite him living there for 10+ years.
>>543828975The McGill / Oxford graduate will definitely be working in your best interest. Trust politicians.
>>543829092> The McGill / Oxford graduate will definitely be working in your best interest. Trust politiciansQuote from deported man
>>543829211>Fell for it again awardThere is no political solution to a jewish problem. They're ALL puppets. No exception
>>543817971>oui, ouiyou’re confusing quebecois with france. they are not the same
>>543828975Make sure to vote harder for ''change''.
>>543829325Same shit, all candidates are preselected by Chabad.
>>543829367 not even close.
>>543829325>they are not the same
>>543829507tabarnak estee, the language and culture is completely different.
>>543829609language not so much even if quebec speaks a more historical french.culture yeah I agree
>>543829657i’ve been to france. it didnt remind me of quebec at all and i’ve been to england which also didnt remind me of ontario. canadians and europeans barely have anything in common.
>>543824533>referedum to have a referendum on the possibility of maybe beginning the process of declaring independence of some limited kind from canada What a joke. You need to be annexed. No voting for at least three generations.
>>543829899Last time I went to England a street preacher was distributing Qurans in the streets and most restaurant workers were Indians. Pretty much matched Ontario in that regard.
>>543828281I voted for SJB, despite wanting the PQ to win. I want the CAQ to become the opposition, and not the fucking Liberals.Also SJB has been really good for my county and Quebec politics in general. Hopefully he can takeover the CAQ in 4-8 years.
>>543829988I agree, Canada and even moreso Quebec need to be annexed. Quebec should have been annexed in the 1960s. Instead, this place has become peak dogshit with a bunch of clown stooges with muh referendums.
>>543830086Kamala Frechette is finished. CAQ will get 0 seats.
>>543830086lol a voter, I never voted and never will. Voting is consent to being assraped. You're a great goy slave. Press harder on that pencil when you place that X on your voting card.
>>543828017Feels more real every year
>>543830208Does not change anything at all whoever gets ''elected''. Are you clinically retarded?
will vote PQ, would vote for the local commie guy but i'm fucking tired of the meth smoking hobos in the neighborhood and it's time tim hortons and mcdies pay for their immigrants.
>>543823953Communiste
>>543830276>>543830231>>543830158>>543829988Get back to the call centre pajeet
>>543829899We are an American people of French descent, not French outright. Obviously, 250 years of divergent history, additionally starting from the point that we were all royalists when they were chopping heads of nobles left and right, means the culture is different, sure. The French are still the closest of our kin.
>>543818388>vote anti-immigration separatist party>we need le gros projet de nation-building la la>oh wait the demographics in the rural areas are dead>most of the skilled youth will move out of these shitholes>young people already checked out of family life years ago>there's nobody to man our army, build our country's infrastructure, pick our fields or take care of dying boomers out in Baie Comeau>immigration floodgates reopened for business so that way the people don't go without their bread and circusgrim
Je ne connais pas ses politiques, mais j'espère que elle gagnera
>>543817971How? Quebecois are a bunch of welfare parasites. I doubt they will give up gibs for independence.
>>543832247She has a nice big Palestinian butt. I was watching TV the other day and the camera happened to catch it at the perfect angle when she was giving a presser.
>>543818388PQ is saying 25k immigrants tops and must be fluent in French which is to say NO POOS. "L'Avenir Quebec" was pushing for 50k immigrants tops. I'll take the separatists as long as they keep the spice monkeys out.
TOTALCAQDESTRUCTION
>>543819498
>>543828796The border between the two is a river, Anon.
>>543825357It was the Federal Senate that rescued us during the Covid lockdowns and exposed Trudeaus fucking lies.
>>543829507Culturally, we're totally different.
>>543829899Toronto might as well be American.And yes, I've lived there.
>>543830208French Kim Campbell, more like.
>>543830455I feel closer to the Cajuns, to be honest.
>>54382794965% of French speakers are from the continent of Africa. That is now. By 2050 it will be projected to reach 90% of the world's French speakers, on one continent that the PQ presumably considers "undesirable". Along with French speakers from the Island of Hispaniola that the nationalists might also consider undesirable it leaves 3-4% of the world's French speaker's spread across North America and Europe. This is also not considering the share of Europe's French-speaking population at that point which will also not be considered desirable.
It sucks we don't have a right wing TV news station to look at here in Quebec. I'm at my father's place and he's watching RadioCAN, LCN is a bit better but not by a lot.Radio Can only lives by federal funding. If it had to survive on its own like LCN it couldn't be as left leaning because people just wouldn't watch it and they would go bankrupt quick.
>>543833716Social media is right leaning. Surprisingly, the PCQ is in 2nd place among young voters in the polls.
si tu as voté pour>Parti QuébecoisTu est un patriote.>Parti Conservateurtu as les morales a la bonne place mais ton leader est un esti de gay lord qui va sucer nimportequi au fédérale/Israel>Parti Libéral Tu est un homo/non blanc>Québec Solidairet'es gay>CAQreste chez vous et ne vote pas, esti de mêler.>Parti vertvote meme.Pspp Majoritaire. les autres parti suce mon anus.
>>543833816The PLQ is the Anglo Boomer party.QS are retarded commies.
>>543828975I don't doubt it and yeah, libs will take it for sure.Just got back from voting pq.
>>543826968
Let's go PQ
>>543830208Yea she's cooked. Needed SJB to step in instead of her.
>>543829899>it didnt remind me of quebec at allDepends on the parts of France you go to. Most of the original Quebec stock is from Normandy, Bretagne, l'Ile and Paris.You can tell from the accent and temperament that Quebec is mainly Normands and Bretons. Explains the nationalism too.
>>543832540source?
>>543834197It also explains why we have so many huge guys.
C'est un peu décourageant que l'appuie à l'indépendance est à 30% maintenant. Durant la campagne électorale de 94 elle était à 40% et avec la campagne d'information après elle a monté a presque 50% au référendum. Je ne pense pas que ça soit assez cette fois-ci malheureusement. Tout les anglois pis le vote ethnique c'est du vote non. PSPP promet qu'il veut faire un référendum après que Trump soit partie, donc entre le 20 janvier 2029 et octobre 2030. La façon de se donner le plus les chances de succès dans un référendum sur l'indépendance est de faire sacré le camp au plus de ses communautés là . Comment? En passant des lois sévère sur les lois du Français au Québec, genre s'il le rendait mandatoire dans tout les écoles, a plus d'entreprise (toute?) et les enseigne de commerce juste en Français. Les anglais et les autre communautés hairais ça et scramerais en Ontario et ça c'est toute des votes non. Je ne sais pas si ça serait assez mais sans une mesure comme ça je sais pas si ça va passer avec un appuie de 30% en ce moment.
>>543834352holy fuck french is just italian spoken with a gay accent. i can understand everything
>>543834352Les restrictions sur la porte de voiles ira loins, aussi.
Le Québec sera un jour un pays, mais ça ne se passera pas par un référendum.
>>543834502English is roughly half French because the Normans conquered Britain.Also, our dialect is a bit harder to parse verbally. Much rougher sounding than European French (which we also consider "faggy" sounding).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF92-uSiVZQ
>>543834352Il faut arrêter obsédé sur le Français et focusé sur la culture et l'ethnicité.Je préfère avoir des Américains que des Haïtiens, des Norvégiens que des Magrébins. Le français ça s'apprend, mais une nègre est toujours un nègre.
>>543834614tu penses que c'est qqch de possible, honnêtement? Me semble de voir PSPP parler de la race française d'Amérique qui faut préserver, son appuie chuterais a genre 8%.Le vrai monde c'est pas les chans, mec.
Why is CAQ dying?
>>543834711Retarded party, center right with austerity. They're supposed to be the pro-business economy party but the economy is shit.
>>543834711They're fucking retards, is why.They fucked up fiscally, brought in huge amounts of immigrants, had the worst lockdowns in Canada (possibly in the Americas as a whole) and are just all-around incompetent cucks.
>>543834711They went from representing all the population in their first mandate to being cocksuckers to the eternal boomer in the 2nd mandate because of COVID.Then they put a woman in charge.
>>543834352fun fact my italian family in montreal voted no in the 90s. they were "les ethnics" that frenchies were kvetching about
>>543834711>Why is CAQ dying?Because no one except old boomers like Fréchette la marionnette
>>543817971my ass yall will...
>>543834836I've worked with a bunch of Montreal Italians. Most of them are total NPC's who just repeat CBC talking points verbatim.Also, their accent is weird.
>gaz Ă $2.08Tabarnac
>>543834898honestly i would've also voted no in the 90's. Nowadays, given that the collapse of Canada is impending, I would vote yes. I wish Canada could've worked out as an anglo-french power. I think French is not an outlier of Canada but instead an intrinsic part of its core identity beyond even only quebec.
>>543835080More than you realize. Almost everything people associate with Canadian culture comes from Quebec. It's why people act like Canada "has no culture". They LARP as us while hating us.
>>543834711>Center-right ''pro-economy'' party but stil somewhat nationalist that won big with boomers and a lot of francophone voters, leading some to think the PQ was done for>Disastrous covid management>Major financial / economic fuckups including a contract for a giant battery factory that never got built and insane mismanagement for TI / cybersecurity / gov websites projects>Did more or less nothing about immigration despite baiting right-wing voters during campaign>Party leader (and also prime minister) resigns before election>Replaced with 0 charisma woman that was first minister of immigration and then minister of the economy>On track to get completely raped tonight Kamala-Liz Truss-Kim Campbell style
Is PQ + QS enough for secession to become a serious topic of contention again?
Got back from voooooooting PQ.
>>543835232Elle ressemble Ă Paul "Cajoleur" Cagelet.>>543835246QS is all about IDpol. PQ leader is not to be trusted.
>>543833159shut up nigger
>>543835246>Is PQ + QS enough for secession to become a serious topic of contention again?PQ tabled the issue until Trump isn't president. Even if QS were to win with majority it wouldn't be viable at the moment so no politician wants to bring up an issue with zero popular backing.
>>543817971I voted for the Parti Quebecois. I don't think the referendum will happen/or pass, though. Too many niggers and sand niggers arrived in the recent years.
>>543817971I just voted to staySeparatists are traitors and need to be shot in the face and their worthless families sentenced to a life of slavory
>>543835246The issue with (unfortunately) even a large portion of separatists is that they're fundamentally timid social-democrats that get their morals from mainstream media outlets so Trump being next-door has them scared shitless and in that context they're less likely to vote for separation ; hence why the PQ leader promised not to hold a referendum as long as Trump is in power because he understand he'd lose terribly. However, even in the best case scenario it's basically mathematically not possible to win a referendum with the sheer amount of migrants we have now, and even if a miracle happened and the vote won Canada would politically maneuver to make negotiations impossible. Logically, Trump would be the best US president for us possible in that scenario with all his talk of annexing Canada but a lot of separatists aren't savvy enough to understand that.Imo our best shot would be to declare independence unilaterally during a time of extreme crisis kinda like you Finns did during 1917 - so in that view the PQ leader should make himself as obnoxious as possible and generate as many confrontations as possible with the federal government on touchy issues like immigration, the constitution, the law, etc... and try to create times of uncertainty.
>>543834502
>>543817971>and stop leeching off AlbertaTapette albertaine détectée.
>>543818388>>543818573nigga anglo canada is full of Indian filipino and chinese korean , what do you care about our French haitian lmaoo , and who care wich race is what . THe spirit of God is Inside you stop looking outside lmao . world is run by a Gay homo secret societies under blackmail ahahah LMAOOOOo
>>543835877well you'd have to have a civil war in Canada. Best of luck Quebecois
quebec work ethic is so good that the service ethic is the worst
>>543817971hopefully this will make us not have to listen to your croaking language for everything moving forward
>>543834698Ok faque ont va juste devenir in pays d'Afrique debord. Bon argument.
>>543836309great post, abdul
>>543834502It's a Romance language with very similar verb conjugation and sentence structure. You can probably understand Spanish too.
