Reminder that the second Poland gets invaded, NATO will disband and re-assemble under a new name from Germany westward.
>>543819046We only have 50 planes stationed in europe, Europe has 2000 of their own, russia only has 800. Europe has 450m people, whereas russia only has 150m. Europe has a gdp of $20t whereas russia has a gdp of $2t. Both have nukes. Europe already could beat Russia without American help and in doing so, gives them access to a continent of resources so they absolutely will do it. However, it will be mostly finns and poles doing the dying as they have the largest armies of cannon fodder
>>543819325Russia has the most advanced SAM missiles in the world. NAFO planes don't mean shit. Russia is also battle hardened against NAFO hardware from 5 years of defending against it.
>>543819325Russia can't advance anywhere in Ukraine. Front has been stalemated for years now. The notion of them invading NATO is an absurd farce.
>>543819437>Russia has the most advanced SAM missiles in the worldThey should try using them to protect their oil refineries.
>>543819046and thats a bad thing why?you have US support. enjoy your nigger dick polak.
>>543819462US navy missile stockpile status?Iran status?
>>543819437You are fighting over Stinky for 3 months. Its a 1 street village with 7 grannies. Just do everyone a favor and die of plague already
>>543819325True.We Poles rolled nat1 on the geographical location so literally anytime some major conflict in EU breaks out we are the first ones to get assfucked without lube by both sides.
>>543819437Yes, ukraine is 25m people and they havent been able to beat them with 150m in 5 years. Now imagine a population 20x large entering the fight, with 50x the resources. Russia wouldnt stand a chance, so obviously they wont do it
>>543819438>>543819507>>543819555The whole west is funding them. OP is talking about a scenario in which you abandon Eustern Europe and make a new alliance west of germany, moron. I wonder how long they will last then, and how smug you will be once everyone in Eastern Europe switches sides because you abandoned them and the new front instantly becomes the German border.
>>543819462Bodied that orc lmao
>>543819951>The whole west is funding themOh noes, 1% of combined GDP goes to neutralize hundreds of thousands of agressors in a non-nato country. Nafo trannies on suicide watch. How about those intrest rates though?
>>543819951We already abandoned europe. In the two strategic defense documents published in 2025, they said that due to demographic collapse and immigration in Europe, that within 10 years europe will be too poor (due to boomer gib’s obligations) and too muslim to be reliable allies and so we werent going to stick around after that unless they do mass deportations and get their military spending up to 5% gdp. They havent done either so we will leave europe by 2035. You may disagree with these documents but they are taken as a fact by our strategic planners and what they are working off of
>>543819951>, and how smug you will be once everyone in Eastern Europe switches sides because you abandoned them and the new front instantly becomes the German border.LMAO. If you think Poland for instance will join Russia you're beyond braindead
>>543820142>muh gbpYou have no resources, dumbass, and your fake economy and numbers won't help you in real life. Lmao the delusions are unreal.
>>543820200I'm not talking about you americans
>>543819542You rolled 2, serbia rolled 1
>>543820411>muh resourcesWhat exactly does Russia produce except total slav death? Chinese Ladas?
>>543819951playing make believe is fun for children
>>543819046I bet you 500 rubles that Poland will not get invaded. It will be Poland that will invade Germany.500 rubles, Ivan. You good for it?
>>543820514There goes the smugness without substance again. You really are clueless. WEAPONS, retard, weapons which you won't have because you got no resources and no energy. Your GDP and fake economy won't do shit in a war scenario.
>>543819046>Poland gets invadedDo you realise the logistical costs for Russia to get there evenLike they've been stuck in Donbas for 5 years almost.How the heck could they even get there. Belarus won't allow an invasion from their territory or they get screwed.And the momen Russia steps into Poland, Kaliningrad gets annexed by NATO.Why would Russia get into such a situation...
>>543820842Weapons are not enough to fight a war. You also need funds and logistics.And Russia is now struggling to win a war against Ukraine. What would happen if it starts another against a country that hasn't been damaged and has a stronger economy? Plus NATO backing.I tell you what will happen. Russia disappears
>>543819046>Reminder
>>543820842They should use their weapons to advance in Ukraine. They don't seem to be working so well.
>>543819046Kek zigger delusions are so funny
>>543820842>ou won't have because you got no resources and no energy.The whole "Europeans are going to freeze this winter" was maybe somewhat threatening in 2022. But now, it's just pathetic.
>>543820972NATO won't fund Poland, it will abandon them before they risk getting bombed. Once Poland gets involved the gloves are off and ww3 starts.
>>543819046If they invade Poland they go to war automatically with all EU.
>>543820992>Being moscow police is so easy even a nigger could do it.XD
>>543819046Reminder that the best part of europe is all in red on that map.
>>543821185Not possible.Poland is the largest logistic hubs for the EU common market in Eastern Europe. Followed by Romania.If Poland gets wrecked a lot of economies around them get wrecked.You have no idea how intertwined these economies are.
>>543820842You watched tucker make a fool of himself with that smug bong didnt you? Russia has far less manufacturing capacity than europe has. Russia is a failed state that has no money or industry.
>>543819046Who created this stupid map?Turkey is not even Class B but lower.
>>543821607Some zigger made that map. They love and respect muzzies.
It's pretty fucking obvious pooland was "made" part of the "EU" and "GAYTO" to be used as future cannon fodder in order to help spread the "EU" and GAYTO cancer further east.I realized this when shit began to go down in yookrine that it was planned from the begining.
>>543819437>Russia has the most advancedbet
>>543821923>was madeThey asked to join, just like everyone else.Nobody was made to join>picrel: (You)
>>543819046Probably. Convincing Americans that we need to risk nuclear attack and engage in a wildly destructive war for Europeans because of an agreement that was entered before their grandparents were born will be a very tough sell. Especially when you consider how haughty, arrogant, and disdainful of Americans Europeans are. This isn't 1981 anymore. There won't be a Red Steamroller pushing to towards the Rhine under a commie banner. The juice isn't worth the squeeze to Americans.
>>543822158>They asked to joinNo they weren't, they had a few pro EU puppet mouthpieces voice for the majority. Thats how all kike shiahs work.gypsie.
>>543819951How much aid has Ukraine gotten in the past 4.5+ years? Like 300 billion, 400? So let's say 100 billion per year, how much is the Russian gdp vs the Ukrainian? I thought Russia got so much more done with far less?
>>543822616There was a referendum in each country.Eat shit vatnik. I know it sounds impossible some people can actually have a say through vote. It's very strange to think that in your country because you think only the big chief in Moscow is allowed to decide. It's in your genetics to be a slave.
>>543822921>There was a referendum in each country.Yeah the "referendum" was rigged, to be in favor of it.Like I said gypsy, that's how all kike socialist shoahs work.
>>543819046Nah you're wrong.Also Russia doesn't have the capabilities to invade anyone for decades now.
>>543822716I had the calculations done last year, up to June.I should update them but for now I can quote them as guidance for the magnitude of expenditure.From January 2022 to June 2025, Europe and USA spent 282 billion euros on Ukraine aid.Russia’s spending on the war also exceeded 200 billion dollars at the start of 2025.Europe spent about 167 billion euros out of a 56.5 trillion euros economy, over a period of three and a half years. That’s roughly 0.29% of Europe’s economic output between 2022–2025.The USA spent around 114 billion dollars out of a 146 trillion dollars economy. That’s close to 0.08% of USA’s economy between 2022–2025.Russia spent 271 billion* dollars equivalent in the same period of time out of an economy the size of 6.3 trillion dollars (*to get this number I’ve added the above-quoted 200bn estimation to half of the current year’s budget for defence, 142 billion dollars). Roughly 4.2% of its economic output from the same reference interval.So Europe spent 0.29% of its economy and the USA 0.08% to match Russia’s 4.2%.Who was economically strained most?
>>543823027>referendum riggedYeah that's how a vatnik would think because in his mind it's impossible people actually vote and decide. That's only for the FSB and Putin. Any elections and votes are always arranged, that's their experience.
>>543823315Man stop replying to me you fucking gypsy yoorotrash fool. I don't like debating with the zoo.I know how these fucking kike leftist "politics" work.You won't convince me.
>>543819046You wish.
>>543823271Big ups my man, looking good let's keep it pushing.