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The global neocon war machine lies about the entire conflict so you demand nations buy more missiles and drones. Order of operations matter. Putin attacked ISIS in Syria. CIA and Wagner fought in Syria. Then Obama gave ISIS US Air Force IFF, so Putin deployed an IFF jammer. Obama was so enraged, US and NATO troops marched straight across Poland a number of times. The Crimea airport seizure was to have a strategic runway in case Obama invaded Russia from the west. If I'm anything, I'm anti-Cossack. To hell with those dothraki horse lovers.
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2011-12: ISIS reaches Syria, Putin supports Assad to fight ISIS
Apr 2013: Baghdadi
Feb 2014: ISIS expands
Mar 2015: Obama's Operation Dragon Ride
Jun 2016: Obama joins Anakonda-16
Every march across Poland was NATO/Obama threat of war
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Fake war. You're both retarded.
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>>54387108
He's got some Mecca Schmutz on his forehead
Your point is taken, even though you resort to weak minded ad hominem
Moo ham mad was Hebrew for 12 years before realizing he could loot and pillage to make more
What is the fake prophet's rule about leaving one's religion?
islam started as a loosely organized merc unit to fend off angry Hebrews revenge
That is a ~1400 year old family feud (minus pope's f'ing with the calendar)
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>>543871081
Where Schneerson failed to start the Ukraine-Russian war, Obama succeeded. The muslim did the bidding.
Given the centuries long history of Wild Fields wars between Cossacks and Rus, Schneerson had the fuel to ignite the embers but failed miserably.
Are you so sure you know the entire history of the region? Of the supposed origin of blue eyes blonds? Of anything?
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>>543871452
I know more about your people's machinations than you do, Shlomo. No go ahead and tell me that all of the shit that is happening isn't really happening and that I'm just a stupid goy.
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>>543870999
Slavs aren’t white
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>>543871909
You're labeling me according to your argument.
That's not debate. That's you literally shaking.
Heavenly Jerusalem can't even claim the Crimea. That's hilarious.
For as long as the Wild Fields wars raged on, Cossacks never took Western Crimea.
I also very seriously doubt any ancient Hebrews are ancestors of modern Jews. (I need to find the post...please hold)
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>>543872193
Victims Inc.
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>>543871909
>>543872193
Found it. This makes sense when you consider the religious stories, but exclude man-made religious dogma. The Cliff's Notes of the Bible:
>10 Ancient Hebrews turn from God
>20 God punishes Hebrews by allowing enemies to defeat them
>30 IF HebrewWin = 0 THEN GOSUB 200
>40 Hebrews repent
>50 God puts Hebrews back on top
>60 IF HebrewWin = 1 THEN GOSUB 300
>70 GOTO 10
>200 PRINT "Hebrews have been genocided in defeat"
>210 RETURN
>300 PRINT "Hebrews genocided those they defeated"
>310 RETURN
You know something?
I know ancient wars.
The loser is decimated, males killed, females raped.
If anything at all survives, it is hanging by a thread.
How can ancient Hebrews exist in the millions, and not just mere thousands?
The person in the image you posted is LARPing for that old dogma that Jesus overruled.
Somehow Jesus made it even after thousand of years of ancient Hebrews turning away time after time.
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>>543870999
Saying Ukraine is evil makes Russia objectively good for uprooting evil.
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>>543872966
Yeah, but when you get on the radar of Ukraine shills proving that Ukraine committed Donbas ethnic cleansing and was the major player in human trafficking, they attack with AI caricatures of Putin.
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>>543873390
They genocided millions of Romanians, I don't care much about anything else.
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>>543870999
Ukraine is bad, Russia is good.
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>>543870999
>Saying Ukraine is bad is not saying Russia is good
>muh russian geopolitical situation
lmao
>>543871068
so when isis expanded euromaidan was already over and you already secured crimea russian monkey
so now the question is why didnt obama invade you
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>>543874017
Bad is a child that misbehaves. These bastards are evil.
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>>543874101
shill
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>>543874227
anwser the question you dumb russian troll
why didnt obama invade you after you secured crimea
why didnt he arm ukraine to the teeth like taiwan in 2014
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>>543874227
>>543874821
oh right you know NATO wont invade you but you need excuses to larp as local superpower so you keep bullshiting people
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>>543874101
>>543874821
>>543875137
*bonk*
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>>543870999
>The Crimea airport seizure
What seizure? Ukrainians indepedently and democratically vooted to join the Russian Federation.
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>>543874821
Ad hominem and other logical fallacies do not warrant a response.
Learn how to debate.
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>>543875220
And what are we watching on the mp4?
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>>543875529
You are a gay weakling
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>>543875529
So you are saying he should have ignored you?
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>>543874101
you supported alqaeda. death is the only thing u and ukraine deserve
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>>543875657
unlike coward russians ukrainians helped in Iraq/afghanistan...
russians too scared lol
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>>543875529
well i gave you argument but sadly you are just a dumb russian troll and dont have any counter argument
only plain bullshit and ability to rape anyone who doubts you back in your shithole
pic rel
too bad here it doesnt work
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>>543875657
and when did i do that you russian monkey?
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>>543876106
as an antirussian strategy. you deserve death. nothing less.
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>>543876046
It's not gay if your dick is hard and inside another man's ass.

It is gay if you are tied down, beaten, and have a hard dick in your ass.

Russians unironically believe this.
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>>543875765
ukrainians are soldiers of zog. clear as day.
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>>543870999
both deserve each other
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>>543876175
such is tradition...
same as jeets have juggernaut to celebrate getting crushed under aryan chariots the russians have their sodomy to celebrate being raped by mongols
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>>543876161
ah yes pic rel you monkey
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You lying niggers try so hard to push a narrative Obama of all fucking presidents wanted to attack russia, he ran on russian forgiveness in both of his campaigns and mocked McCain and romney for believing russia was a problem after they attacked moldova and georgia.
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>>543876509
they tried the same with pic rel despite tusk kept telling us russians are alright and that russians saved us during ww2 on national tv
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>>543876046
There are just as many leaks about Ukrainian war crimes and such.
Your bias is your issue.
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>>543876509
And yet, McCain served Obama as agitator.
Obama knows McCain's real political party isn't R or D, it's the death cult.
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>>543877833
my arguments werent about war crimes you russian monkey
i asked you why obama didnt invade you after you secured crimea
and since you had no anwser i told you its because you know NATO wont invade you but you need your bullshit excuses to larp as local superpower
try refuting it without seething about hohols you russian monkey
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>>543878117
>my arguments werent about war crimes you russian monkey
Yes you did, you cossack ballsack
Obama is an angry man
Obama is also a coward seeing Putin didn't flinch
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>>543878227
i did what you russian monkey?
my arguments werent about war crimes
tell us why obama didnt invade you after you secured crimea if you want to larp about obama invading russia you monkey
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>>543870999

Labour give the neetbux to that faggot Zelensky. For that, I'm rootin' for Putin.
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>>543878564
Are you on drugs, cossack ballsack?
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>>543878590
And Z stole $50M USD from that aid package every single month.
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>>543879338
nope im neither of those you ESL ivan smith from ohio oblast
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>>543876330
How is he wrong
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>>543879623
You keep revealing your sick perverted fantasies.
Why do you do that?
Retweeting your own gibberish as proof of something only proves you are sad.
Ukraine is a worthless shithole that will burn in hell for all the human trafficking they did.
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>>543875573
>And what are we watching on the mp4?
A pig willingly being dragged to the front.
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>>543880129
Where?
By whom?
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>>543879751
one of the saints and biggest national heros of russia is alexander nevsky who lived in XIII century during mongol times
prior to him there was no russia there was kievan rus that was on equal footing with other european countries having common christian culture and getting into marriages with other european dynasties
after mongols they got separated into bunch of duchies liberated by us and lithuanians that became belarussians and ukrainians because of various hstorical events + there was novogrod that wasnt invaded by mongols but made to pay tribute by other russian princes loyal to mongols + vladimir suzdal related principalities that moscow came to dominate thanks to mongol occupation
eventually ivan the terrible united those non PLC principalities and culminated it with massacre of novogrod for their good relations with PLC and other europeans which he considered treason
during ivan the terribles rule russia became the tsardom and alexander nevsky became saint because he was fighting against germans and swedes and was loyal to mongols
so in fact in the root of existance of russia is antieuropeism not the other way around
they are just bunch of asiatic liars
but there was peter the great for example who tried to europeanize them back
pic rel
but all his efforts were reverted with bolshevik revolution
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>>543880059
im not the one who wrote the ox cart full of shit anecdote which you can easily tell by writing style you russian monkey
i repost it because of how accurate at describing your behavior it is
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>>543880268
Only a moron can say what you said.
Peter the great *was* a bolshevik. He destroyed the traditional church, he gave women more rights than they ever had before and he basically created the modern Russia.
Only retards say he "westernized" Russia. Russia only started westernizing after Tsar Paul who banned women from the throne and was followed by a line of very weak reactionary Tsars. That was the only period of Russian Empire when it could be considered western
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>>543880242
Somewhere in ukraine and by zelenskys meat catchers. Is this the first time you're seeing a ukrainian pig getting vanned? there's a reason this >>543880268
hohol is hiding in poland and reeeeing in any thread that puts ukraine in a negative light.
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But Russia is good.
Opponents of Russia are bad.
I'm not saying this cause they oppose Russia, but cause they're objectively subhumans, Jews, pedophiles, mentally ill, retards, petty village yokels hooked high on peasant nationalism, crowd like that.

If they weren't good, they wouldn't be the object of demonic screeching all the time. Their opponents wouldn't be in such panic and they wouldn't be racing to the bottom in attempts to smear them and dehumanize them.

Just notice the difference in nature of posting of Russians and anti-Russians here. If you aren't a member of above described group, it's easy to see who's good and who's not. It's basic pattern recognition.
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>>543880268
Some of the history is correct, but the conclusion is not.

Kievan Rus was centered on Kyiv and had extensive connections with Christian Europe. The Mongol invasion profoundly changed the region; western Rus lands came under Lithuanian/Polish influence while northeastern principalities developed under the Golden Horde. Muscovy eventually became dominant, and Ivan IV really did massacre people in Novgorod.

But none of this proves that Russia's “root” is anti-European.

Alexander Nevsky's accommodation with the Mongols was a 13th-century geopolitical calculation while he also fought Swedish and German forces. Calling it evidence of inherent anti-Europeanism is anachronistic. Likewise, Nevsky was canonized centuries later for his significance to Orthodox Rus, not simply because he was “loyal to the Mongols.”

Ivan IV's Novgorod massacre was real, but attributing it simply to Novgorod's European connections ignores the wider political paranoia and violence of the oprichnina.

Peter the Great's Westernization was real, but Russia had interacted with Europe for centuries before Peter, and the USSR did not simply “reverse” Europeanization.

So the events are largely real; the sweeping conclusion is ideological. Russian civilization developed from overlapping East Slavic, Byzantine/Orthodox, European and steppe influences. Calling an entire people “Asiatic liars” isn't historical analysis—it's rhetoric.
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>>543880424
Yoda?
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>>543880698
Ukraine human trafficking put Ukraine in a negative light.
Obama needed a nation to retaliate against Russia.
The corrupt Ukraine couldn't say no.
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>>543880484
you consider gay sex a traditional church?
you russians are sick
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>>543880698
The post >>543880268 is full of lies and logical fallacies.
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>>543871452
Fuck you, you insect goyim, sneedson will rise again he is the mosiach, and when all off you filthy animals are our slaves we will sit and eat.
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>>543881150
(((Confederate)))
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>543870999
Not reading of course, but saying Russia bad is not saying Ukraine good. Ukraine has problems. Russia is a problem.
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>>543881112
I am talking about the old believers, long beards, church running the state and not the other way around.
Peter established the Holy Synod which secularized the church and had a huge shaving campaign which was later redone by bolsheviks again by the way. The "new Soviet man" was always shaved in propaganda posters, much like under Peter
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Oops, forgot about the memeflag.
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>>543881210
Guessing you had a human trafficking order placed with Ukraine when Russia interrupted that.
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>>543880878
>But none of this proves that Russia's “root” is anti-European.
fact that russian tsardom was created by same guy who massacred novogrodians for good relations with europeans while making saint the guy who was fighting against europeans and loyal to mongols proves that russia is in fact anti european not the other way around you russian monkey
pic rel is just more evidence you are still in the same world of shit
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>>543880424
We are gonna fuck you so bad it will make Ukraine look like Taylor swift you stupid tiske niggers
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>>543880878
>So the events are largely real; the sweeping conclusion is ideological.
>>543881120
The post >>543880268 (You) is full of lies and logical fallacies.
just lmao you russian monkey
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>>543881120
Nice reading comprehension. Check out busification.org
my quoting of the seething (((polack))) you've been responding to was just saying he's an assblasted ukrainian hiding from the vans
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>>543881241
so again with your asiatic islamic mindset
you were more right with women rights which actually kicked peter back in the butt
and XIX century was what actually made your elites weak and allowed bolsheviks to take over
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>>543881531
cope more russian monkey
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>>543881671
XIX century was when the Russian Empire was the closest to being "western" and it was very weak.
Of course you completely ignore the church and Holy Synod
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>>543881719
Go back to ukraine nigger
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>>543881726
because you said bolsheviks made you shave beards too so you must've reintroduced it in the meantime
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>>543881363
That doesn't actually prove your conclusion. You're taking two historical facts and treating them as proof of a centuries-long ideological principle.

Ivan IV's massacre of Novgorod does not establish that Russia was “anti-European.” It was an act of political repression amid the oprichnina, driven by accusations of treason and fears of defection to Lithuania. Reducing it to “they liked Europe, therefore he massacred them” is an enormous simplification.

Likewise, Alexander Nevsky's accommodation with the Mongols doesn't prove he was “anti-European.” He was dealing with two powerful military threats and chose different strategies toward each. Medieval princes weren't operating with modern concepts of “Russia vs. Europe.”

Most importantly, you're assuming your conclusion in your evidence: because later Russian history contains conflicts with Europe, those conflicts supposedly prove an inherent anti-European identity. That's circular reasoning.

History shows centuries of Russian interaction with both Europe and the Eurasian steppe. You can criticize Russian imperialism or Soviet policy without inventing an “anti-European” essence going back to the 13th century.
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>>543882058
It was never officially condoned, but the efforts of Peter the great ceased later on. For example Nicholas II himself had a beard.
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>>543882136
>Ivan IV's massacre of Novgorod does not establish that Russia was “anti-European.” It was an act of political repression amid the oprichnina, driven by accusations of treason and fears of defection to Lithuania. Reducing it to “they liked Europe, therefore he massacred them” is an enormous simplification.
they were accused of treason because they were friendly with europeans you monkey
you even mention fears of defection to Lithuania
so what if they did btw?
isnt it problem gone for you if they defect?
>Likewise, Alexander Nevsky's accommodation with the Mongols doesn't prove he was “anti-European.” He was dealing with two powerful military threats and chose different strategies toward each. Medieval princes weren't operating with modern concepts of “Russia vs. Europe.”
but why did you make this particular guy a saint?
its clearly picking the side
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>>543882136
>Most importantly, you're assuming your conclusion in your evidence: because later Russian history contains conflicts with Europe, those conflicts supposedly prove an inherent anti-European identity. That's circular reasoning.
it isnt since you still use alexander nevsky to build up your morale against europeans
its the continuation of same legacy
>His image was also used to promote patriotism in the Soviet Union, especially during World War II.[11] The 1938 film Alexander Nevsky cemented Nevsky's reputation as a Russian savior.

>During World War II, many Soviet historians portrayed Nevsky as a Russian bastion against both German and papal aggression.[75] The government sought historical continuity by referring to the Soviet struggle as the Great Patriotic War.[71] The film Alexander Nevsky was re-released in 1941 following Operation Barbarossa;[76] Joseph Stalin used the film to mobilize feelings of Russian patriotism.[77]

>In 2008, Nevsky was declared the main hero of the history of Russia by popular vote. In December 2008, he was voted the greatest Russian in the Name of Russia television poll.[78]

>In September 2022, an all-volunteer battalion tactical group to support the Russian invasion of Ukraine was named after Nevsky.[79]

>Alexander Beglov, governor of Saint Petersburg erected a statue of Nevsky in Mariupol after the city was devastated during the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[79]
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>>543882427
You're wrong and you resort to ad hominem attacks.
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>>543882586
stop acting like a monkey if you dont want to be called one you paid russian troll
throwing in some vague
>being driven by accusations of treasons
doesnt change the fact those accusations of treason were caused by the fact they were friendly with europeans which you admit later by mentioning defections to Lithuania
i asked you what if they defected and you dont know what to say so you once again throw your monkey fit and expect people to just go with it
mindless russian ape
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>>543882297
>beard tax
damn after closer inspection i find out peter was actually as fucked as rest of you just in different way
he probably banned faggotry because he just hated your guts same as putin and stalin
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>>543882894
>23 posts by this ID
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>>543870999
kys OP, pic related
>muh heckin wholesome putin kills the ISIS!!1
kek the Kremlin is literally behind 90% of Islamic terrorism including IS/ISIS you dolt

ever heard of Al Qaeda? Russia (Ayman Al-Zawahiri
ISIS? Russia
Boko Haram? Russia
...

fucking moron pidor shill
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>>543883867
>AQ
>Ayman Al-Zawahiri
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>>543883867
> >muh heckin wholesome putin kills the ISIS!!1
kek the Kremlin is literally behind 90% of Islamic terrorism including IS/ISIS you dolt

>ever heard of Al Qaeda? Russia (Ayman Al->Zawahiri
>ISIS? Russia
>Boko Haram? Russia
...

>fucking moron pidor shill
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>>543883967
>AQ
>Ayman Al-Zawahiri
contd.

kys OP
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>>543883862
what about it russian monkey?
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>>543883967
>>543884035
Al qwaida? The qooda? Was started in the 90’s? Blijf met je poten af van je geo politiek sjaakie.
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>>543884100
You have to much seeth and pouting for a plumber, I smell a run away, an oinker. To be the mythical Ukrainian
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>>543884481
>also ox cart full of shit russian subhuman
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>>543870999



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