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What's the argument against H-2B besides "foreigners bad"? It seems as though it isn't as open to abuse from employers and workers as other visas are.
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>>543904836
H-2B is for non-agricultural jobs, retard. Wage stagnation, takes jobs from American workers, creates more illegals as visa holders don't go back.
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>>543905064
wtf would make you think I'm talking about agricultural jobs, cuck? the question was about that specific visa in general.
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shitskins icky
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The argument is that any economy that can only survive using slave labor while also having a wealth level difference that we have deserves to fail and i don't care how expensive shit gets
because the market will correct it's self or it will die
and if it dies then it deserves too
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>>543904836
Indians
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>>543904836
>foreigners bad
isn't that enough?
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>>543904836
A government should be invested in the well being of its people and artificially driving up competition and driving down wages with foreigners is bad actually, even if not foreigners are all bad
does that help
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>>543906178
*not all foreigners
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>>543904836
>What's the argument against H-2B besides "foreigners bad"?

"The H-2B program allows U.S. employers to hire foreign nationals for temporary, non-agricultural jobs. It handles labor shortages in seasonal, peak-load, intermittent, or one-time occurrences."

There are some obvious criticisms:
-It grossly removes any leverage a citizen has to negotiate with an employer. Employers have no incentive to hire locals, look for locals, when they can simply throw up their hands and say, "none of these locals want to work. I'll just have to hire foreigners!".

-Another issue, slightly inline with the first one: if you have access to unlimited H-2B it probably fucks with the real economy of the country. Employers, functionally, have access to an unlimited labor force that grossly outnumbers and outsupplies the locals. This obviously de-appreciates local labor wages, as mentioned previously, but also provides an unfair advantage to business that engage in it vs ones that can't benefit from it, and grossly over-inflates these businesses ability to operate regardless of local economies.

-Temp. laborers, no matter how you spin it, are more susceptible to abuses, manipulation. It's significantly easier to withhold pay or otherwise steal their wages, send them home early, or threaten their ability to re-enter the country.

>>543905249
>wtf would make you think I'm talking about agricultural jobs, cuck?

Your OP image.
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>>543904836
>"foreigners bad"?
what more do you need?
foreigners create massive external costs.

buddy was some special GM mechanic but sent to JAPAN. GM had to pay $100K/yr on top of everything else, pretty much to cover the massive external costs. Japs calling cops just because they see a White man where none such be, etc.

a town like Saratoga, CA has made massive net profit with local taxes to build new schools, which in turn raises property values far more than the taxes, but "quality of life" you can't put a price on.

That all goes to shit with even Mexicans, and even with Jeets or Chinks.

I went to school with Chinks and Japs and you could ask any random fellow White to "loan" you a piece of binder paper or pencil or WTF but a Chink would demand ten cents or no deal. Its just different and not in a good way.
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"foreigners bad" is sufficient reason thoughever
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The entire visa system is exploited and no longer serving its original intended purpose. The visa question is one of the most contested, lied about issues in government. Employers are abusing the entire visa system, doesn't matter which visa type is in question. Doesn't matter if the labor is measured in something objective such as pounds harvested. This is because the visa system is very closely related to the government mechanisms that fund things using bills that print money. The visa labor is not cheaper, but the companies themselves don't have to pay the price which is why they call it 'cheaper'. The government is printing money to bring the foreign labor here and keep them here, and then giving none of the money to Americans.



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