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What's the deal with guntards/looneytoonarians, anyway?
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>>543927178
It was so that the common man could be mobilized into a militia for rapid deployment.
However the civil war demonstrated this as a threat to national security so ever more strict controls were placed on “arms”.
For for example, South Dakota had a nuclear arsenal, a small one, maybe 15 warheads at most, but those nukes answered to the governor of South Dakota and not the president, well that’s a huge fucking problem for the president if he ever disagrees with South Dakota.
You think
>oh great if Washington says infinity niggers in your state we use nuclear blackmail on them
While true.
Imagine if California says infinity niggers in your country, and then blackmails everyone else.

I can see the case for “arms” control.
But there is good reason for allowing no controls on arms as a form of accountability.
Israel would be FAAAAR less cavalier with the United States if a town of 50,000 people determined whether or not Israel is turned into a smouldering ruin.
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>>543927178
The founding fathers allowed private citizens to own cannons and fully armed warships. They were also judeo-masons and the constitution is not sacred, it in fact has only ever been weaponized against us.
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>>543927178
pic rel you dumb jewish clown
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>>543927697
lol yeah you know how long it would take to load that thing? TOTALLY comparable to modern day guns.
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>>543927178
I'm pretty sure cannons existed in 1788. Also, are you suggesting that we aren't allowed to own guns with rifling? Where does your retarded argument end?
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>>543927178
That musket was more powerful than a canon you could legally buy?
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>>543927759
You fire multiple of these in volleys retard, just like what they did with muskets for suppressive fire.
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>>543927759
I'm fairly certain shooting a city up with a 32-cannon gunship would cause significantly more damage than le scurry evil black AR-14 and plenty of private citizens who were not part of a militia absolutely owned these legally in the revolutionary and post-revolutionary US.
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I will never give up my guns faggot
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>>543927759
so what you can do it before you go for an action you jewish clown
founding fathers written rights to bear arms into constitution to allow people to fight criminal groups like yours
whatever is available on the market at the time is allowed according to constitution and burgers could easily solve last 6 decades of their problems by just pleading the 2nd 60 years ago
hence pic rel
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>>543927759
All guns of every age are comparable. It's all just using combustion to propel balls of lead through steel pipes. Fundamentally it's all just that one thing being done over and over again with many variations.
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>>543927912
sure man that's why people still use these types of weapons - right?
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>>543927178
Pretty sure we had siege cannons in 1788 most powerful weapon my ass
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>>543927178
they didnt imagine jew funded nigger hell when they freed the slaves either but here we are
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>>543927178
If you want to be mad about something, be mad at communism for scaring the shit out of people so that right to bare arms is now a thing.
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>>543928083
What, naval artillery? Yes, people still use that. How is this a refutation of what he claimed anyway? A naval bombardment, even by 18th century standards, is definitely more destructive than an AR-15 rampage. Just go read about the British siege of Boston. British naval artillery destroyed a quarter of the city. Let's see a rifle do that.
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>>543927178
They didn't even believe Italians were white, yet the constitution extends to jeets in the US. Curious.
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>>543928161
they did thats why you have constitutional rights to plead the 2nd to jewish occupation of usa
and jews know it thats why they fight against gun ownership
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>>543927988
A lot of people in the US are weak
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>the founders let people have access to the most powerful weapons of their time
Okay.
>the founders would not want modern people to have access to the most powerful weapons of their time
You lost me. Why would their opinion change?
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>>543927178
Lewis and Clark brought a 50 cal semi auto rifle with them that had as much power as a modern 45 acp and held 20 rounds per magazine, faggot. First made in 1770.
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>>543927178
Shall not be infringed
GTK RWN!
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>>543928083
Are you implying 30 rounds of 5.56 would do more damages to a town than bombardment by 32 cannons?
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>>543928331
they can still blast random jews in the head and plead the 2nd in the court
or you can just accept being their slave instead
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Someone post the printing press one I don't have it saved
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>>543927178

WRONG- Faggot...

The founders were aware of the Nigger&Jew-Spawn... And current and future weapons.

Several were leaders in the Scientific communities of the time.

The America's were "Discovered" or "Founded" (in the Columbus Narrative) by Men & Agencies, seeking to bypass the RagHead Nigger&Jew Pirates in the Straits-of-Hormuz.

They were so sick of (((these))) Pukes they risked life-and-limb for find a way around these Chubbs...

A new trade-route that bypassed the Nigger&Jew-Spawn.

Same-Shit different-times...
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>>543928582
bonus
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>>543927178
>thermonuclear weapons
you can buy those in america? based
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>>543927973
Surprised to see Yoshimitsu here of all places.
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>>543927178
This is nonsense. I'm sure that if you asked them, they would acknowledge an expectation that gun technology would advance, and that whatever gun technology the tyrants might have, the people should have as well.
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>>543927178
GUN CONTROL USA
>also
OP IS WHINEY MEME FLAG SHLOMO POOPJEET FAGGOT ASS GO KYS
>and
founding fathers also did not predict internet but surprise first amendment still applies
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>>543927178
Look at this jew completely ignore the spirit of the law lol. Only heebs and their brainwashed goycattle sperg out over little word choices lmao get fucked faggot OP jew
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>>543927178
Context anon, that was milspec at the time.
They didnt think tge armed forces would have that stuff either.
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>>543927178
GUN TRAINING USA
>also
go kys meme flag faggot ass poopjeet shitskin jamboy shlomo heeb pedo troon thx kek
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>>543927178
they didn't have nukes, obviously, but they absolutely conceptualized automatic weapons because the early versions of such weapons already existed.
you know what else people could own when they wrote that amendment? canons and heavily armed ships of war.
the intention of the amendment was to arm the citizenry to the point where they could match the government in order to keep said government in check with the threat of lethal violence against tyrants and corrupt officials.
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Faggots have parasites
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>>543927178
You used to be able to own private warships with dozens of cannons.
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>>543927178
The intention of the right to bear arms was explicitly to allow the citizenry the legal means to own weapons which could oppose a tyrannical government. If they had concepts of what machine guns and nuclear missiles were they would absolutely encourage private citizens to own them as counter balance to government power. If the government has access to a weapon system, private citizens shouls too.

The fact so many Americans not only misunderstand this bur actively oppose it shows that the tyrants have won and the US constitution is now a meaningless piece of toilet paper.
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>>543927178
Youre a moron and you have no idea what youre talking about.

And shall not be infringed is pretty fucking clear amd concise so youre also disingenuous.

Kill yourself, faggot
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>>543927178
What's the deal with sodomites?
'Guntards' may think assault rifles are muskets, but you think that using another man's anus as a masturbation aid is real sex.
It isn't, incel.
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>1 post by this ID
>2+2=5
>memeflag
What is a cannon?
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>>543927178
Its remarkable how much of leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.

You already know why your argument is bullshit, because this isn't an argument, its propaganda based on a logical fallacy intended to deceive the uninformed, and you know it.
You are a bad person for employing such shady tactics.
Kill yourself.
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>>543927178
That wasn't the most powerful weapon. It was just the most cost effective weapon to provide large numbers of men with. They could have easily made repeating weapons that fired a shit load of ammo but it would be very expensive and they wouldn't be able to produce enough to match a thousand guys with those guns.
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>>543927178
Inferring from your flag, you are someone who is comfortable with being dominated and ass raped. Therefore the concepts of individual freedom and self determination are foreign to you and not worth the time to explain.
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>>543927178
No. The most powerful weapon was probably a 12 pounder
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>>543927629
I thought the original idea of the USA was moreso like the EU, a united group of countries (states)
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>>543927178
They also allowed everyone to have canons with grape shots which could decimate a whole battalion.
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>>543927178
>criminals have AR-15 and anti-aircraft machine guns
>ze citizens should only have airsofts with single shots
why do you jews hate humanity so much?
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>>543927178
The computer is vastly more powerful than the printing press. Technology changes, not our rights.
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>>543927178
kys kike, you won't do shit about my machine guns of war
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>>543927178
There's a retarded logic at work here.
Assuming you're correct, and that is the most powerful weapon at the time (which it isn't) - then the Founders wanted you to be able to match the firepower of that weapon by letting you own the same weapon to defend yourself. The Founders didn't intend that you defend yourself with *inferior* weapons to any assailant.
So the principle is not the weapon itself, it's that you defend yourself with equal force. Now, if your assailant has an HKMP5, the principle means that you yourself must be allowed to have an HKMP5 to match the lethality of the weapon being pointed at you.
What is being maintained is the principle of the constitution and not any farting about whining about calibres allowed. The principle is - if some cunt comes at you with a weapon, you're allowed to match them in weapons in order to protect yourself.
Now fuck off you disengenuous faggot Eglin glownigger.
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>>543927178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girardoni_air_rifle
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>>543927178
You know that repeater rifles existed and were known about before the constitution right? Not only that, but the founders, in their lifetime, had watched firearm technology rapidly accelerate with no signs of stopping. What you're saying is the equivalent of someone in the future saying "in 2026 all they had was chatgpt, there's no way they could've known that AGI would ever be a thing". That's how stupid you sound. That might literally be the dumbest take on any subject ever.
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>>543927178
couldn't common American man own fully decked out vessel back then?
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Every man, woman, and child should be allowed to own nukes.
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>the founds witnessed the development of combat weaponry and how it shifts the balance of power in war
They didn't say "muskets". They said "arms".
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>>543930161
/thread
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>>543927178
This single shot musket would rip you a hole size of a fist when hit or rip off your arm. While fully automatic AR if hit can actually leave you alive.
Also automatic repeating muskets were a thing since 1630.
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>>543927178
ok.
then they also didnt account for flock cameras tracking our every movement when they made the 4th amendment
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>>543927178
The founders also didn't imagine fags being common and grown men prancing around in dresses because they want to be pretty girls but here we are. Even in the 1600s there were weird degenerate and disgusting sex fetishes but not like today.
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>>543928736
It's an amazing reaction image
Also the anime was good
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>>543927178
Technically the most powerful weapon in 1788 was a cannon you faggot ass nigger
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>>543927178
they based their decision on the weapons available then. i don't see why this should be a problem now. the gov have stun grenades, i should have them. fully armoured tactical vehicles weren't around at the founder's time either. every local militia should have a couple of those. no reason why certain arms should be limited to gov use. or is there?
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>>543927178
What’s the point this meme trying to make? The people were allowed to have weapons equal to the military/government and that should be the case now
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They had canons
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>>543927178
>what are cannons
You are a lying faggot.
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I know this thread was made my CREST Research, and I just want you to know you're going to Hell forever, but if you honestly look at the second amendment and any words of the founding fathers in principle you'd know well that the nature of guns at the time is entirely irrelivant to the point. Civilian gun possession equalizes citizens to their government, which is what the founding fathers wanted an armed populace for.

The closest thing there is to honesty in that faggot image is maybe raising a question about technological advancement, and what kind of population is conducive to it. Ultimately you are going to have to once again confront the power of government and realize that if you are for dissarming the populace, you really can't avoid the fact you are a little gay faggot slave to the same old white men you pretend to hate. Come to think of it, now I know why leftoids make heinous sexualized depictions of trump. It's all just a fetish and they really are just doing an elaborate mating call.
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>>543927178
Wasn't Ben Franklin like a brilliant inventor? He would have been able to conceive of an autoloading firearm even if he had no primer and charge available.
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>>543927178
You made white businesses and communities extremely illegal back in the 1960's. Those white people know you are just trying to eradicate your competition. That's why they don't trust you to have all the weapons, money and rights to share information. Hurts, don't it?
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>>543927178
Come and take them, tranny kike
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>>543927178
Right so the masses need access to tanks and jets and missiles so that they can overthrow the government if they become tyrannical. I support it. The monopoly of force should not be held by the sorts of psychopathic narcissists that are inherently attracted to positions of power and authority and who by their psychopathic nature do not care if others suffer or die.
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>>543931295
Hear hear! I am convinced non-Anglos just do not understand us. They always come to such retarded conclusions. We need to face facts; we as people are by our blood different, we perceive the world differently, understand things differently, and draw different conclusions.

Non-Anglos simply do not understand justice or liberty.
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>>543927178
Nice flag, (((anon))).
The founding fathers intended for the civilian population to be as well armed as the government, so that when the government got uppity the civilian population could change their government ESPECIALLY if the government told them they couldn't do that.
If the tyrants have nukes, the average red neck should be able to have a nuke.
That's the intent of the second amendment.
Anyone saying otherwise is a retard or works for said government.
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>>543934536
>tanks and jets
FPV drones and spools of fiberoptic cable actually. And mortars.
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>>543927178
>musket
>most powerful weapon in 1788
Both a /his/let and a /k/let take desu. Try privately owned fleets loaded with cannons.
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>>543927178
>most powerful weapon in 1788
>a fucking musket
lmao
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>founding fathers wanted people to be armed with the same firepower as the military
By this reasoning, people should be equipped with automatic rifles, tanks, RPGs, and cruise missiles.
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>>543927178
Not counting cannons, I suppose
That took down the 50ft thick walls at Constantinople
Dems lie like people breathe
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They also had Cannons.....
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>>543927178
Et tu, Faggio?
>tfw for sale decades before the American Revolution
>double tfw it came with square bullets for shooting Turks
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>>543927178
George Washington would cream his pants at witnessing a 50bmg or a p90. He'd probably die from creaming so hard at the thought of everyone having thermonuclear weapons
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>>543927759
found the fag who doesn't own any weapons. in real life you don't just hit R to swap to a fresh clip you retarded fuck, you have to stuff each bullet into the mag first, FOR EVERY CLIP YOU USE. THAT TAKES LONGER THAN YOUR LITTLE GOTCHA SCREENSHOT FROM 200 YEARS AGO.
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>>543927178
The Lewis and Clark expedition used repeating rifles with magazines holding over 20 rounds, and they were available prior to the constitution being written. Fuck off fagflag
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>>543927178
>didn't imagine better weapons
they had no Apocalypse of John then?



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