Isn't is weird that A.I and robotics are getting so good, that we have lots of expert telling us that they will take all our jobs, that money won't matter, that there's good chance that the A.Is wipe us all out, all within the next decade and there's still so many fuckers who keep talking how the low birth rate, how countries need to boost their immigration, how fucked China due to their demographics etc etc. Just look at Elon Musk, he's simultaneously talking about how A.I will take over humans in the next 20 years, and also talking about how people need to have more kids to save the economy and their nations. Especially for China, there's still so much talk about western geopolitical circles about how demographics will fuck them over by 2050, while at the same time they're also talking about how much of a threat their A.I and robots progress is. Let's be real here, A.I went from being worse than a toddler level in 2021, to being better than 99% of all humans on most software/computer related tasks in 5 years. Unless A.I development hits a brick wall, demographics and humans won't matter by 2050, it's all about robots, data centers and A.I. Anyone who talks about demographics or birthrates as if they still matter is a fucking retard.
>>543931219doesn't this guy say constantly that because of demographics china is two weeks away from collapse?
Zeihan sucks. He always gets his shit wrong. Hes been saying that china was due to collapse for the last decade or so. Meanwhile fuckers remain strong and even manage to stabilize the international gas market by reducing consumption (we would be fucked if not for that). He also predicted Trump would lose his second election.Hes a homosexual pro-green fiscally libertarian richfag who was adopted by jewish parents (his words) and lives on a never-ending hiking vacation. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Many places should be corrected in their population numbers naturally by withdrawing aid. I think all places are required to be self sustainable when withdrawn from internationalism. Migration shouldn't be an option.
>>543931219import shitbecome shitwho knew ???
>>543931598>>543931548It's not just zeihan, there's still plenty of talking heads and people who go on and on about China's demographics issues, somehow ignoring how good A.I and robotics have gotten in such a short amount of time, or how much China has invested in those areas too.
>>543931718I do believe the demographic issue will have consequence. I just dont believe in the doomsday scenario he pictures, neither in its timeline. Its always something like: "China and the rest of the world will be like the Mad Max wasteland within the next 5 years and america will be living a golden age!". Fuck off man! Hes selling clicks, subs and books thats what hes doing. Zero credibility.
>>543931219i have been spamming this for many years. the average nigger benefits massively from shrinking population even.there is no need to import any people at all. the only fags who benefit from mass migration are asset holder share holder faggots especially those who invested in concrete they love people desperate for a home. its all so fucking gay
>>543931973the demographic issue doesnt translate to some day x it translates to: you will never own a house with a university degree meanwhile your parents never went to uni and own a housethe ressources meant for you went to other people instead, older people
>>543931973Nah bro, I think by 2050, humans will be more or less completely useless, we will just be in charge of controlling the A.I and robots. It won't matter if you have a population of nothing but 20 years old with PhDs or an aging population full of 90 year olds. In fact I will make a prediction that by 2050, there will be countries that are so automated that every human in it could drop dead, and the lights will stay on, the trains will still arrive on time, the factories will stay supplied and running.
>>543932346Well what a cohencidence. This book from 1992 says that the plan population control, to 1 billion by 2050. Half of them sweat shop workers.
>>543932346LLMs are not that good. Their effectiveness is logarithmic in relation to the hardware used and current companies are working with ZERO profit. They are just continuously receiving investor money out of faith/speculation.The only way humanity will be truly in the shitter is if robotics/AI evolved to the point of replacing humans in complex tasks such as handling clients, construction, etc (basically engulf both white and blue collar jobs). We are waaaay far from that and as white collar is concerned the AI hype is too overblown.
>>543931219Why do you believe the predictive claims for and against the coming status of biological human beings in 2050? You don't see these as propaganda released by factions competing for the financial profits these technologies promise? lole what a gleekbutt little niggerfag
>>543932678>LLMs are not that good.The frontier A.I models are not really pure LLMs anymore, you should think of them as very complicated pieces of neural networks. >We are waaaay far from that and as white collar is concerned the AI hype is too overblown.2050 is 35 years away, plenty of time considering how much A.I has improved in the last 5 years alone. >The only way humanity will be truly in the shitter is if robotics/AI evolved to the point of replacing humans in complex tasks such as handling clients, construction, etc (basically engulf both white and blue collar jobs).I think we will see this within 10 years. China is heavily leaning on the physical A.I and robotics side of things due to their manfacurating advantages. And we already see A.I agents being used to do actual real world tasks like handle business deals, ordering stuff etc etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ide5pRLR8YThis is a comedy video, but really shows how far A.I has come. Give it another 5 years and I could see it actually running a actual business by itself, especially if it had a robot body to do physical work.
>>543931219AI is the current thinglike the "climate crisis" used to beit's not the end of the worldit's a nothingburger fucking retards
>>543931219>>543931548Demographic issues are very real and AI is still a meme. The problem with "analysts" like Zeihan is that they tend to overestimate how fast demographic collapse happens. Basically, very few people understand the demographic momentum. Even if TFRs started increasing and got above replacement, it would take 50 years to unfuck the damage that's already been done.
>>543933453Demographics won't be an issue in a decade, let alone 50 years. We're heading towards a future that's so automated that you won't believe it. A.I is already getting so insanely good at the software side that I legit believe that 99% of computer based jobs will be wiped out in 10 years. And as for the robotics side, it will be solved soon. China went from producing 1000 humanoid robots in 2024, to 10k robots in 2025, to 100k robots in 2026. And each robot generates it's own training data, every new robot contributes to the exponential learning curve that led to the current LLM boom.
The population of Africa would be in decline if foreign aid was cut. It would benefit the minority of intelligent Africans as they no longer would live in the fear of being captured, raped, and eaten by Colonel Buttnaked
>>543934058>We're heading towards a future that's so automated that you won't believe it.lmao
>>543931219I reset my two weeks clock timer every time I listen to that guy.
>Zeihan>On>Geopolitics
