Why do you Americans tolerate this employment "at-will" nonsense? Over here its always funny as hell to hear "you are fired" in a movie but the reality of such workplace environment must be a fucking nightmare. >be anon>study your whole life to be a researcher or something>accumulate a shit ton of debt>graduate>find a job in another state>move over there, bring your girlfriend and two white kids with you [its fiction so lets dream shall we]>fart outside of work>make the news because of the weird smell or something>get fired from workThis is neither good for the workers nor even for the american society as a whole. How are you guys ok with this? Why do you think what you do on your own time should affect your professional occupation? Why have I never heard of a presidential candidate trying to change this? Why do you think its ok for ceos to fire you without any reason, to then replace you with indians?
>>543938383I dont want to be bound to my employer. I can leave whenever and have. If this sucks for useless people thats on them. I dont want to lose my freedom to make useless people more comfortable
>>543938383Lol, OP thinks I have a job.
>>543938383>Employment "at-will" nonsensehahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahayou're silly, op.your nation isn't free if it can't fire people at will.full power for the employer to hold employees to high standards instead of dogshit union shits that can't get fired even though they don't do shit but clock in and drink coffee.
>>543938479that has literally nothing to do with the thread you retarded kike, try it again bitch.
>>543938383>Why have I never heard of a presidential candidate trying to change this?Our entire government is run by business interests. Boomers are also big on this type of shit for some reason.
>>543938479Anon, you can always leave without any reason, you just have to tell them in advance, the lenght depending on how long you have been working there.Its your employer who will be required to find a damn good reason to fire you.
>>543938766incorrect.at will works both ways.
>>543938855>Our entire government is run by business interestsyou do know the entire point of government is to handle business dealings, don't you?
>>543938383dude i worked in some public services and the fact some people cant be removed from their jobs is costing europe many many billions of euros every year.its practically impossible to remove anyone from a company unless they were caught stealing or worse. this results in so many adult daycare jobs its so bad. europe is not progressing for the simple reason everyone gets in 1 seat and then tries to ride it for 40 years without ever changing anything. if you ever tried to teach some old boomer some new tricks you will quickly learn that is hell on earth. they will pretend to be retarded on purpose just to do less work. people in europe hate new software so much its hilarious. everyone is so damn lazy its unreal
>>543938992>you just have to tell them in advanceAt-will employment means that if they can fire me at any time for any reason, I can quit at any time for any reason.
I just got interviewed today as a counselor sales position at a cemetery, is this a good time to start working? This was my second interview and they will call me after a few days later to set everything up , is by comission + base salary
>>543938992>have to tell them in advanceJej, no. You'll get your notice when I stop showing up one day. Just be happy if i dont talk a few coworkers into quiting at the same time. At will employment is a double edge sword.
>>543939159fuck you you motherfuckin bitch, are you retarded? an employer can't force you to continue working for them if you've decided you're done, so no it doesn't work both ways you fuckin faggot. and i would fuck you up if you tried telling me this bullshit irl, so SHUT THE FUCK UP. NOW.
>>543939159So what, you retarded faggot? Laws that dictate companies can't fire at will don't affect your ability to quit in any way.
>>543939441Need feedback as this would be a first for me and idk how to start if I get contracted, like I'm extroverted and empathic as fuck, is this commission thing for me? Can it help me make my parents life easier everyday? Is the main reason I'm applying
>>543939205the entire point of a government is to serve the people, you moronic corpo cuck.
>>543938383Depending on the state, not all of them are like that. For example in the south some employees can’t be toxic as fuck. You can tell them to go find a job somewhere else.
>https://youtu.be/E23-NesjpJM>lol
>>543939273>public servicethat explains it all, Henrich, I assure you a private company would find a reason to fire those people, or at least adapt the selection process to weed out those undesirable traitsa public service is always ran like shit because they are wasting other people's money
>>543938530>hold employees to high standardsYou’re confused. Are you black? Mexican? Some other kind of retard?
>>543938383its because republicans very literally cannot comprehend that someone isn’t eternally grateful to mr shekelstein for the opportunity to loyally serve him.
>>543939273you'll act the same way when the world changes beyond your recognition
>>543938383It's excellent for society. Employers who stupidly fire talent over absurdities can't recruit or retain good people, and go out of business, or get buried by smarter competitors.
>>543939573lmao how often have you changed jobs in the last decade?all it takes to warn your employer in advance is a bit of foresight surely you are capable of this, hm?
>>543938479
>>543938383because maybe only 10-20% of americans are sentient human beings
>>543939862Southern women are spawns of Satan. Niggers and whites
>>543940012>lmao how often have you changed jobs in the last decadeAs often as I want.>warn your employer in advanceWhy would I ever want to do that?
>>543939979thats not true my world has already changed beyond recognition and i am 10 times as productive as before, by hard numbers. fuck you lazy faggots
>>543938383>you have to give me 2 weeks notice>I don't have to give you 2 weeks noticeThey don't tell you this but you can just not show up ever again, there's nothing they can do about it.
>>543940147I have si now I can be my own boss and create more shit that you will ever consumeInfinite futa porn a la carte
>>543938383>Why do you Americans tolerate thisWe seem to just bitch, piss, and moan and then just accept it until it becomes the new normal. Legitimately, look at all the bitching be it about the right or left or shit in the middle, a lot of people asking for someone to do something, not them of course they have work in the morning, if they lean right, or some protest to loiter at while wearing an inflatable costume because its fun and free, if they lean left.
>>543939273>practically impossibleIn the private sector you can just do things. If you read your contract half of it is straight up illegal and the other half vague enough your employer can just go >Yeah well that's like your opinion, faggot, we can settle it in court in three years I don't give a shit you're still firedAny HR employee worth her salt will find a way to have you quit or agree to fuck off with half the stuff you're contractually or legally owed.
>>543939742incorrect.union workers can't just quit when they want.>>543939841and how do they serve people correctly, anon?come on.you can do it.protip: it has nothing to do with social issues, only economic ones.>>543939919>he thinks incentivizing people to not be able to get fired will make them work harderyou're the most ghetto trash motherfucker on 4chan.
>>543938530Why do americans worship work and corporations?
>>543939938Thanks Republicans.
>>543938383Wait until you hear about arbitration agreements! You can sign away your constitutional right to sue for redress of grievances, meaning you can't sue the company for doing horrific things. Any suit has to go through a private company they hired to play the judge and jury, oh and enforcement of judgements goes through an actual court because anything this private company makes up is now legally enforceable.Just so you retards know your rights, this does not cover a company from breaking the law. Any law enforcement action can still be reported to your state's labor board, labor commission, or whatever they call it there. Those are the agencies that handle labor code violations, which you should read through and know, because every goddamn company and even government agency I've worked for has been in violation of typically 5 or more laws.
>>543940340we don't.we just like getting away from our families and getting paid for it.
>>543939938you think in reverse.
>>543938383Have you ever worked? You sound insane lol
>>543939159You know you can quit without giving a notice in Europe right?You wont get arrested for not giving a two weeks notice
>>543940250i dont know what youre trying to tell me but if you third worlders could stop fucking up online profits to pennies i would be grateful but it will probably never happen. cant compete with people who are happy with 200 dollars per month>>543940310why do you think i mentioned public servant? because im funny?>>543939903same question to you, you niggers need to read and then thinkif you get scammed with some retarded contract thats honestly not my problem. i was always employed under union contracts these are usually rape proof. yes i am aware you can lawyer a lot of things but i dont give a fuck "Im going to sue you" makes you sound like a 15 year old honestly
>>543940519Yes you will. There is a task force that handles this similar to american SWAT. I know this because I made it up.
>>543938383Did you just only now realize there’s no long term safety or security here at all?
>>543940519I thought the tv license people also had to check yalls work license.
>>543939441>Sales person at a cemetary.WHAT? Like going up to a grieving family to sell them shit?
>>543940343>because life was wonderful under heckin White people and man hate globohomo jew leftist Dems What? Why do you think we all voted for Trump in the first place? How fucking stupid are you? Nobody’s gonna vote for man and ethnic European hating dems lolMaybe shitskin replacement illegals will
>>543939816>Can it help me make my parents life easier everyday? Is the main reason I'm applyingWith such a positive mental outlook I am sure you will succeed comrade. Doing something to help your family is a noble thing.Regarding the job, commissions usually are good if you are good, like rel estate agents. So start a couple month and then devide if it suits you both economically and as work environment
>>543938383it's pretty easy to not get fired if you don't suck at your job
>>543940668Your tax money also funds the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. You too have a tv tax
>>543940012the absolute cuck mentality here jesus christ. "warn your employer in advance"?? lmao i'm not married to these assholes, fuck them
>>543940703yea the cemetery sales people sell boomers burial plots and headstones at extreme costThe industry is dying though because nobody can afford to spend 20k burying boomersSo boomers will be incinerated (best case scenario) in cremation and scattered at at the beach where pajeets can come poop on them OR Placed in a pine box and in a hole hastily dug ORWe’ll build tree forts and place the body up there Native American sky burial style If globohomo jews change regulations and allow us to sell the deceased to science for shekels many of us will also probably take up that offer. We have retirements to think about
>>543940703>>543940745Thank you, and yes my goal is to be able to take them out to dinner, and help them out monetary every time and get them the best of the best nurses in 20 years when they become frail. The job is about selling tombs and shit to families with deceased members or planning ahead. Basically selling them plots of land, flowers arrengement, that sort of stuff. Is also a word of mouth kind of stuff. This would be my first time doing something like this.
>>543940832If I recall, Trump axed that, though PBS does seem to still exist.
>>543938383I work “at will” for a union free logistics company. We are considered best in class. Why? Because all other companies are union shops. Do our competitors pay more money to their employees? No. They just can’t fire employees as easy as we can.Which company do you think has better employees? One where everyone has to perform or you’re cut or one where you can put half work in and it’s nearly impossible to get fired from.
>>543940946>>543940955Oh ok thats nowhere near as crazy as I assumed.Doesnt sound too bad and you seem like a good lad.My first assumption tho was like a door to door salesman selling random stuff in a graveyard which seemed insane.
>>543938383In Slovenia to get fired you need two negative reviews in a row and if you think the people rating you were not impartial you can go to the work court
If you are even passable at your job this won't happen. Employees that actually both give a shit and are worth something are rare so you have enormous lee-way.The upside is that businesses are actually good because you can fire the worst employees unlike in Europe where it's so hard to fire an employee so their businesses suck./pol/ is a bunch of failed men absolutely terrorified of any sort of responsibility and accountability. Working at a job without getting fired might as well be a feat of Sampson for you.
>>543940191>They don't tell you this but you can just not show up ever again, there's nothing they can do about it.you are flexing a power that most wagies do not have anonemployment at will is detrimental to most people and you know this
>>543941135>The upside is that businesses are actually good because you can fire the worst employees unlike in Europe where it's so hard to fire an employee so their businesses suck.the flip side is that because it is so hard to fire people in Europe they are far more careful about who they hire to begin with. Have you ever worked with European companies or professionals? I have, and I prefer their professionalism and overall working style to America's. They don't try to pretend to be your friend or that we all love what we do like some snake in the grass.
What does E. Nigma from the dark knight have to do with the subject material lolFuck off glowie
>>543940191You can do the same thing here.There nothing stopping me for just not turning up to work again if I wanted, you still get your remaining holidays paid out even if you quit without notice too.
>>543941054Anon, are you really bragging that you have a job that can fire you in a blink of an eye? Why would you NOT want to have a job that cant just let you go on a whim? This post here is exactly why work reform in America wont ever come to be, because there are anons who celebrate shitty job conditions. I bet if you went to a gun range and shot off your big toe, you would also brag to people about that.>Yeah man, cant do shit without this cane in my hand! Wouldn't want it anyother way! Shooting my toe off actually made me more of a man!
>>543941124The entire burial industry here (the dressing the body up in makeup and embalming it) shit, delaying burial for up to a week, that’s all a product of our civil war. During our civil war, so many dudes from far flung little ag communities and farms were dying that they invented a new meme industry to get bodies back to loved ones The existence of the relatively new and extensive railroads and cars which could be kept relatively cool made it all possible >tl;dr it’s from another era when Globohomo jews needed to juice the economy and capitalize on the deaths and suffering of untold numbers of young American men >source: my cousin’s family have been morticians for generations
>>543941124According to both my interviewers they have this catalog where they use to call previous customers who are "loyal" and offer them the services by listening to whatever they need , and then it would be up to me to "network" potential customers by the daily burials and shit. I already have an amazing outlook on live and death, and a background career on psychology (which I dropped). I mostly asked because I wanted feedback on others anon that might had worked such a job before (I don't know anyone irl that would be famiiar with such a job either) and if it was something difficult or relatively normal (one of my previous job involved seeing people die as a paramedic for example, that is what I would consider difficult)
>>543940453>Putting work above familySlave brained.
>>543938383Because forcing employers to continue to employ shitty employees is infinitely more nonsensical. I used to be a federal government glownigger, and those jobs are NOT at-will, they have to go through a whole long process and prove that they have actual cause to fire a government employee.During all of the covid bullshit when Biden was trying to force all government employees to get vaxxed, I decided to quit. But I also knew how the system works and decided to milk it as long as possible because fuck Biden and the government.So I just completely stopped doing any work. After 6 months of getting paid six figures to do absolutely zero actual work, I finally got an official warning and placed on a PIP. After another quarter and a half of still doing literally zero work while on a written warning, I finally received a notice of proposed removal from federal service, which is basically the official notice that they think they have cause to fire you. However, I appealed the proposed removal and said they didn't have cause. Whenever someone does this, the government takes forever to review the case because if they are wrong, they can potentially get sued for $$$ by the employee for wrongful termination. After another 7+ months waiting on the government to review my appeal and not hearing anything from them, I had another job lined up and finally quit. And every single government agency has hundreds of employees doing the exact same thing at any given time, and many more coasting along doing the absolute bare minimum to stay right above the written warning level.
>>543941135>If you are even passable at your job this won't happen. Employees that actually both give a shit and are worth something are rare so you have enormous lee-way.This is not true. There is an enormous number of workers on the market, way more than it should be. Which is why all of the jobs look like this:Minimum wage is 6.8EUR per hour btw
>>543938383KEK!!!I have another story.The other day I saw got this bullshit video on my youtube feed, it was a skit or out of a movie idk. And it was very blatant, like one of those where the author knows what he wants the normie audience to think and makes the stimuli in that direction very obvious.>foid goes into a room in an office>its full of people, she asks why they're there, as its her office>chad giving a lecture there is obviously dismissive to her, says "oh well, you're gonna have to wait" or something>she leaves politely>turns out she's the CEO, triumphant moment>she goes to HR foid>tells her to fire that guy>this is supposed to be motivational and the guy is supposed to be the asshole>normies in comments agreedAnd I was like ... Kek. In Spain, that spoiled bitch would be told "no" and would have to grow up.
>>543940453I can tell you’ve never worked a day in your life anon
>>543941462sounds about right.
>>543941682*an enormous oversupply of workersAnd it is going to get even worse because the previous government imported 30k foreign workers while this government is planning to fire 50k public sector workers and all of that will be funneled into the private sector market which is already heavily one-sided (on the employer side)
>>543941824In this country, if you work in a private sector and if you don't personally know the boss, middle manager or at least some worker in the company who can vouch for you, you are an idiot.This is why all of the goyim are flocking to public sector jobs which on median, have about 2x the wage and have less work.The government of course noticed so now they will take this option away from the goyim
>>543941899And strangely, temporary work and student work that is "at will" is paid much less than long term work that is protected under firing regulations. Which is strange because less regulation was supposed to produce better jobs. But I suppose this only works if there isn't an oversupply of workers
>>543941682It is somewhat true though. I am responsible for hiring. I have to sit through 20 retards to find 1 person who might not kill themselves on the floor day 1. Then I have to pray that they can pass the drug screen otherwise I have to start all over again. There's tons of workers available but there's also tons of retards too. If we have someone who is good at their job it is not easy to fire them. People are easy to replace but competence is not.
The average wageslave in this country is completely brain dead and deserves to suffer.
>>543941623seems pretty easy anon, people generally want to be buried by their loved ones seems all you need to do is offer them to buy the plot(s) at the same time they are buying one for someone who died or if your first contact with them is at the burial itself just hand out a card and that's about it. Father time does the rest.
>>543941955>Then I have to pray that they can pass the drug screen otherwise I have to start all over again.They are stupid easy to cheat and honestly is basically an IQ test. Only time they can actually watch the pee leave your body into the cup is military and court ordered stuff.
>>543942058Thank you, I will remember to make myself presentable and talk with confidence while presenting myself. If I pass the screening then I will likely begin next week
>>543941422You’re appealing to the feelings of an individual instead of evaluating the collective outcomes a collective policy has. Which is what that anon is trying to highlight. To an extent I agree with you, at will employment is kind of shitty in the US, I’ve only ever witnessed the introduction of a bunch of new gay globohomo regulations hurt men and White people such as myself.I don’t think socialistic policies necessarily have to hurt men and White people, but the stuff the leftists here cook up always has and always does.So even if I wanted to support you I can’t, all your kind ever does is hate us. >t. Former 08 Obama voter
>>543938383Like most “privileges” in America, it’s only helpful if you have money and can go long gaps without work. I have and will no-call no-show a job just because I didn’t like it and because I knew that I have 9 months worth of savings. At any other point in life I’d be totally fucked if I walked off of a job. The problem with “at-will employment” is that it assumes that the majority of people will be in the same spot that I am, which couldn’t be further from the truth. It also completely ignores the “Amazon, Walmart, and Dollar General are literally the only two employers for anyone who isn’t Mexican within 100 miles” scenarios that are really common in rural America.
>>543942058My wife wants to basically be wrapped in a sack and then have a tree planted over her
>>543940340Because they mentally and spiritually cucked by protestant work ethics and zionism
>>543941682>Which is why all of the jobs look like this:I'm surprised that job pays anything at all. Literally any retard could vibe code an SEO bot in python in less time that it probably took some HR roastie to type up that job description and post it online.
>>543942188>So even if I wanted to support you I can’t, all your kind ever does is hate us.Yeah dont clump me in with them, I lean right but have some left stuff I agree with, just maybe not to the same extent as them, but I do beleive we should have work reform in this country. Really that simple, I understand why one should work, but I also dont see why it should consumes one life, also considering the number 1 regret people have on their death bed is working more than enjoying their life, family, friends, hobbies and all that.
>>543942288Use Onet for everything job description related btw
>>543941955you had zero interest rates for two years, you have investors that throw trillion gorillions once some techbro says he will build a datacenter on the sun and despite everything Trump did some mass deportations. And your birth rate is lower. You probably have a higher job/workers ratio than we do
>>543942288I don't code in python, but if it requires meetings and "excellent" anything, it shouldn't be that close to minimum wage
>>543938383Because Americans are stupid and ignorant. I know, I know. It's a meme, but it's true. I moved here 4 years ago from Canada and prior to coming I thought all the talk was just propaganda. Nope. Americans are mouthbreathing retards. The country is rich because the businesses are successful, but literally the only reason that's true is because the government creates monopolies for them through the force of arms and law. Work at a couple of American companies for a few years and you will be amazed they're even able to operate. Until you realize they succeed because they have no competitors, domestically or globally. That's why they need at-will employment laws, because worker rights are an obstacle these drooling retards can't possibly surmount.
>>543942516Probably but we also have millions of niggers, spics, and fent addicts who are completely unemployable.
>>543942443> but I do beleive we should have work reform in this country.I don’t, because any ((reform)) efforts will just be used against us like they always are. Nobody trusts the leftists at all.
>>543940316Union workers aren't slaves you fucking retard. Americans are so fucking dumb it's unbelievable.
>>543938383Everything in America was created in a culture from a time where you could find a new job by having a firm handshake and even menial service jobs were enough to pay for a family.Being fired wasn't such a big deal, it just meant the job wasn't for you and you could now go try out a different field of work
>>543938383At-will employment is better than right to work. Your not contractually obliged to be bounded to your employer.
>>543942608> I moved here 4 years ago from Canada and prior to coming I thought all the talk was just propaganda. Nope. Americans are mouthbreathing retards.Our schools have been globohomo jew leftist indoctrination camps for decades which pass shitskin replacements and women without question, while terrorizing and denying opportunities to men and White people.To make things worse, all of those people who get to pass without doing anything are the ones who also get all the preferential hiring.Being hired is a gigantic feminine manipulative display of agreeing with various party lines, so many Americans learned long ago it simply isn’t worthwhile or possible to be intelligent, we will never be rewarded for it or make a life out of it.Were you able to figure that out too after just coming in from Canada, faggot?
>>543941422I’m not worried about being fired because I know my value to the company and they know it too. I wouldn’t say I’m irreplaceable, just not easily replaced. Also, I’m not overpaid so they wouldn’t save much by replacing me. Only the weak are afraid of survival of the fittest.
>>543941135Its way better to work for a union. Its harder to get let go for a bs reason from a union job.
>>543940384>Wait until you hear about arbitration agreements! You can sign away your constitutional right to sue for redress of grievances, meaning you can't sue the company for doing horrific things.This shit crawled into the justice system and needs to be legislated out.
>>543938383we tolerate it because most employers who are aggressive with the policy dont have many employees. some can keep it going short term but long term it's a losing strategy. supermarkets are a good example, they've been aggressive with at will employment for decades because it used to be a good enough job to retire on but the past couple decades have been rough now that the majority of people they would consider ideal employees are joining the white collar workforce. they've essentially exhausted the labor pool even after lowering their standards. word has gotten around they're dead end jobs.
>>543943005Ya your schools are dogshit. My girlfriend works in one. It's ironic, but your hatred for anything even resembling government is what got you into this mess. There's no one in between you and the monopolists that rule you, so they take advantage of you every way you can and there's nothing you can do about it. But because you're so fucking dumb, you think less government is the solution instead of the problem. It's fucking hilarious and sad.
>>543941323When you here about the companies that lead industries it's never European it's usually American. That proves our system produces success while Europe produces useless sloths.You can be "careful about who you hire" but they are all going to quickly realize that there is no penalty for slacking off at their job. Even good employees turn into sloths when the culture encourages it. It's a story I have seen many times.
lol sounds like you moved to ohio for a tech job then got fired after posting a bad meme in the teams chat. learn self control you fucking idiot.
>>543943301There was billions spent on convincing Americans of that. William F. Buckley and Milton Freidman are burning in hell.
>>543943648Bro it's a shit show. Then again, I'm not moving back to Canada any time soon because I don't want to live like a pauper. Will return one day to retire.
>>543943761Yeah it does suck there isn't much capital here. It's mostly because we don't have smaller banks. Drastically hurts innovation and productivity. Fuck the Laurentians and fuck their monopolist banks.
>>543942757Everything will be used against us, not having work reform is currently being used against us to exploit us in one way already.
>>543943352>When you here about the companies that lead industries it's never European it's usually AmericanLike what? Coin clipping financial chicanery and extractive rent seeking megatech? Airbus didn't have planes dropping out of the sky. ASML is Dutch. Have you ever actually worked with europeans, or just read stories?
>>543943051>Only the weak are afraid of survival of the fittest.That was gay anon, survival of the fittest? You legit could get let go for something not even related to your work ethic, all it could take is a boss wanting more of a cut and they take it from you. Well anon, you enjoy ya job and all that.
>>543938383You dont understand. Businesses have the american population by the balls and everyone who points it out is called a socialist and shamed.
>>543942608>Americans are stupid and ignorant>I moved here 4 years ago from Canadakek why did you move then
>>543944367>Businesses have the american population by the balls and everyone who points it out is called a socialist and shamed.Dude BIG Alcohol basically demanded Texas to make THCa illegal because it was hurting their profits, and that action I know has pissed off a lot of people who are voting blue instead of red
Ever since I got fired for not taking the vax and my career was destroyed I don't care about anything. I just live to subvert and destroy and take pleasure in everyone's suffering. I hate this country and everyone in it.
>>543944541>Ever since I got fired for not taking the vax and my career was destroyedLucky bitch. I refused it too and they didn't fire me. So I got to go to work while everyone else got free coofbux. Im still mad about this.
>>543938383Unironically, with UBI and killing the health (((insurance companies))), it wouldn't be the problem that it is.
America no has jobs problem
>>543944661I didn't get free coofbuxI just lost my job
>>543944661>>543944742I had a near unicorn job that I lost because of the pandemic I miss every day, but I got coofbuxs for a full year before thinking it stopped only to find out the day after accepting a job that decided to keep it going
>>543938383It's for niggers. Whites rarely get flat out fired, even for poor performance. You might be put on an improvement plan or reprimanded but there's leniency in the system just out of most people being generally reasonable. The lack of employment contracts is so niggers can be fired outright, immediately, without being chained to them indefinitely. You might be forced to hire them, but you can fire them easily.
>>543945006There's some logic to that. So many of the systems we used to brag about before jeets and chinks just don't work without only white people.
>>543939273>make using X software part of the job>give retarded boomer access to a self-study course and 1 month to learn how to use it>if they can't, rightfully fire their assSeems pretty simple, I guess managers are just lazy and don't want to train their employees
>>543945006>Whites rarely get flat out fired, even for poor performancebro. where do you think the space for all of the DEI jobs came from?
>>543943865The website you are on uses software created but American industries and the device you are using it on using an OS made in America.You are fishing asking what water is. America leads Europe in practically every type of company Tech, Industry, Appliances, Entertainment. No one buys Europe with this stuff. >BUT ALL THESE THINGS HAVE PROBLEMSAnd despite that they still dominate what Europe puts out so much you can struggle to even name some of their companies that we use.
>>543940519The only time I quit a job I did it on a whim with no notice and I faced zero legal consequences.You are just making shit up.
>>543938383If you make it hard for employers to fire people, they will be reluctant to hire people. Study the concept of 'dead loss'. There is always a cost to intervening in the free market, and a government should do it sparingly because it's likely to reap unintended consequences.
>>543946008Dis nigga cant read
>>543938383Most stupid plot everJust let him die, whole gutter police was protecting him like some presidentKike Hollywood is so cringe, it needs to be HOLOCAUSTED for real this time
>>543946286Deadweight loss
>>543938383>euroids seething over interactions being voluntaryWhy are you like this?
>>543943286We tolerate it because we have no choice and globohomo jews replace the population and working class at will as economic conditions change. It’s the entirety of American history, anon. GTFO with this “market takes care of it” nonsense, the market made it this way to begin with
>>543943301> But because you're so fucking dumb, you think less government is the solution instead of the problem. It's fucking hilarious and sad.We have had anti-trust laws and institutions for many decades now yet this 50+ year period of monopolistic growth occurred even and especially during ((progressive)) governance. Our anti-trust laws aren’t enforced and there isn’t oversight which isn’t bought out and corrupt. We don’t need more powerful corrupt government, the government we already have is corrupt and foreign dominated, acting against the interests of its population. Fuck off globohomo jew White man hater
>>543943846> Everything will be used against usEven more reason to support as little corrupt government as possible then, it shouldn’t even be federalized.
>>543941656Based glownigger
>>543946713Can't wait to get apocalypsed by the Italian Brainrot Creature Memes
>>543938383At will employment is for burger flippers and cashers at the store. Do europoors really need years of school for that?
>>543941267>detrimental to most peopleNah most people aren't worried about being fired. And honestly with the number of waste of complete spaces I have worked with i think most work environments would be improved by a 5% cut of the workforce and have a redo hiring someone new.
>>543944523> and that action I know has pissed off a lot of people who are voting blue instead of redDems are going to do something different? Anon, they don’t do politically risky actions. They’ll get into office and say there’s nothing they can do because the Texas legislature has to vote on it, it isn’t in the schedule and they’re in the minority. Are you trying to suggest the globohomo jew dem leftists are going to go to bat for weed? The first states and most which legalized it were all states which have proposition mechanisms in their constitutions to allow residents to vote on creating new laws. I don’t recall state Dems leading a charge on legalization in a state legislature anywhere.
>>543947410>We tolerate it because we have no choiceI mean, nobody is going to haul you away to jail if you quit a job or get fired for thinking wrong. your fear of such an outcome gives the employer power
How can you bodily conform to a paperwork world is that our nature
>>543945006> Whites rarely get flat out fired, even for poor performance.What? It’s the polar opposite of that you liar. We’re the last to be considered for hiring if we’re considered at all. We’re the first to be considered for layoffs and firings. Because not hiring us, or firing us both improve ((diversity)) metrics everyone is required to do nearly everywhere. Who lies like this? How else would there be tens of millions of homeless White American men?
>>543946005>America leads Europe We’re not really competing with Europe anymore, we compete with the chinks these days. We don’t even have a European population anymore, I don’t know why people keep trying to compare us to Europe. Europe is a nice place mostly which this economic opportunity zone will never be
>>543947714> At will employment is for burger flippers and cashers at the store.A majority of states have it as the law of the land. What is this bullshit that it only applies to loser poverty service jobs? It’s everywhere unless there’s a contract nigger
>>543945006I’ve known white people who called in sick four times in three months and were fired. These were credentialed professionals too. Not burger flippers and cashiers.
>>543946008Try reading again anon.
>>543939273And the other choice is to deal with retarded nonsense where you can spend your life savings buying a new house because you finally got a job and then suddenly get fired because jupiter was in retrograde o algo
>>543948019Because high paying jobs are contract jobs you low tier wagecuck.
>>543938383Law mostly. You dumb fucking commie.
>>543947822That’s an individual choice. Collectively Americans have no choice, we can’t vote on immigration policy, it’s always ignored. Successive governments just say it isn’t happening when it obviously is I wasn’t talking about strictly individual choices. When businesses adopt policies and marketing campaigns it’s aimed at various collectives, the “market” you kike
>>543938383America now relies on an abundance of desperate people to hire from, they no longer care about what is right, that was always a weak willed idea to begin with. It's a throwaway culture, including the people, easily replaced but it wasn't always that way, globalism did the damage it needed to and jews walk out the back laughing any time they are ready while the goyim strangle each other for the scaps. Sick retarded country and so are many western nations now.
>>543948019If you are readily replace, ie unskilled or incompetent then yeah you would be worried about being fired.
Americans are just cucks for their wealthy heroes. Pretty simple.
>>543938383yeah, you'd think rightwingers especially would realize how stupid this is since HR is run by feminists and it's usually rightwingers who get fired for no reason.
>>543938383you left out "have to be married". Then they've really got you by the balls.
>>543948087No they are not, you lying piece of shit A contracted person isn’t employed, they’re working for themselves. I hate you liars so much it’s unreal.
>>543938479Average migger intelligence
>>543939681Good job retard you're starting to understand. I enjoy the freedom to leave a job whenever I want. Why should I be ass mad a company can get rid of who they want
>>543938383It’s fantastic and not a problem for anyone useful. What the fuck do Europeans do when they make a bad hire? You have to just keep paying the useless cunt endlessly?
>>543948119>if your government and globohomo jew corporations just replace you with foreign shitskin scabs and lay you off it’s all ur fault Copypasta boomer advice from the 90’s, it hasn’t moved and inch lol
Worker rights only function in high trust societies. Most muricans have such a terrible work morale that they start slacking off the very moment they are not under threat of imminent termination.
>>543948212Do you think the fucking police turn up if someone quits their job in Europe? There is no legal requirement to give a two weeks notice.
>>543948096yea but you can just go outside and blast off a machine gun at 1 am if you know how to follow rules and work hard enough to afford those things, which requires hard to make individual choices. sorry if you did what everyone else did in life and didnt get the outcome you desire. you voted for this
>>543938383You think that an "employer" should be forced to continue with an "employee" it doesnt want to, you are subconsciously ceding your nation to corporate rulership. Not the way it should be seen. There is no employer or employee, there are two individuals cutting a deal, forming a contract, and they can put whatever they want on their side of the contract, because the other party doesnt have to sign it. That is what it's supposed to be, that is real; anything else is just made up nonsense or interjection by a third party which should not be tolerated.
>>543948450You got it the other way around. When corporations can decide your livelihood at will, they got you by the balls
>>543947591Ya that's why I said "anything resembling government." Corruption diminishes true representation much more than largesse, though the latter can contribute to the former.You wanna enforce anti-trust laws, great. I think that should be a core operative function of the US government---breaking up jewish monopolies. But you have to convince the millions of stocktwits it's a good thing when their 401k portfolio goes down 50%, and I'm not sure that's possible.
>>543948383> yea but you can just go outside and blast off a machine gun at 1 am>yeah sure the economy isn’t working for the population at all and the government just ignores the voting public and replaces the population >u can shoot a gun at 1 am like a nigger though You’re doing an awful job as a globohomo jew shill, you know that?
>>543948809>literally posts the reason why jobless sounds like you're going to have to do and be good at things you didn't want to be good at to get ahead in life, anon
>>543938383they will read this and say its communism. its freedom to not have workers rights
>>543948370he literally does think that actually, because he's a fucking retard.
>>543948131>fired for no reason.Firing someone for political views is a reason. One prohibited by law even in at will employment, along with some other reasons like race or sex..
>>543938383At will is the norm. However employees may be entitled to severance pay.If an employee is bad they are removed from the workplace.
>>543938383It's really good for power, though, since it allows the system to bypass criminal justice for punishment. >Oh we didn't censor that speech, can you point to one law where we censored it? I mean sure everyone who says that gets fired immediately and their life is ruined, but we didn't do that, the private corporation did.Much of the power structure is about using power while evading responsibility or accountability, since both are limits on power.
>>543949488>One prohibited by law even in at will employmentLMAO no it's not. There's no federal law, and the vast majority of states have no restrictions at all. A few states (ironically California) have very limited restrictions against firing due to political association, but that only applies to something like firing somebody just because he's a Republican. You're still allowed to fire him because he says that men accused of rape shouldn't be presumed guilty, or that a woman who rapes a man who is unconscious shouldn't be seen as the victim, or that mass immigration is terrible for housing and workers, or that colleges shouldn't reject somebody for their skin color, or that Rittenhouse didn't deserve to be murdered for putting out a fire, or any other rightwing view.
>>543950303>the vast majority of states have no restrictions at all.https://www.workplacefairness.org/retaliation-political-activity-state-laws/There are rather a lot of things which are restricted. For example, in Connecticut, firing someone for First Amendment-protected activities in general (not just expressing political views) is forbidden.>but that only applies to something like firing somebody just because he's a Republican.So, for political views, as stated.
>>543948912>boomer jew shilling intensifies What does shooting guns at 1 am like a nigger have to do with getting a job? lol
>>543950960you're being replaced by harder working people and crying that you need to do nothing and expect the same results
>>543938383fuck off, wagie
>>543940012>>543939996i have been fired from exactly 2 jobs in an at-will state.ive quit over 40.the truthis, if you arent stupid and work hard and communicate well nobody will want to fire you over anything other than office politics or nepotism.i love at-will. bosses fire the chaff, im the wheat who can take their place.i have worked in every industry ive wanted to, now in my 30s i have the coolest job ive ever had.when one of my slackjawed colleagues gets the axe, i move up.labor laws only benefit the bottom 50% of employees, BY DEFINITION because if your better than half your coworkers you have the leverage to ask for a promotion at your rival employees expense.also at-will states cant invalidate labor contracts, nor interfere with union organizing. also unions only benefit the bottom 50% of employees.also op is a retard gypsy or wafflenigger pothead.
>>543938479>if you don't like my design drafts, there's a Burger King right across the street that will.does anybody in your life not think you're retarded?
>>543948370You are too retarded for conversations with White people
>>543948497If you live paycheck to paycheck you give them that power over you and it's your fault
>>543948370>>543948212That's why love working outsourced, company can fire me any time but the outsourcing firm gives me 3 months to get a job with them. I hate working directly for companies after all the shit that I've seen ( mass layoffs, no notices )
>>543938383>bring your girlfriend and two white kids with you [its fiction so lets dream shall we]In your own fantasy where you have a family, you're not even married? Are you even the father? Fucking kek.
>>543951657if you live in a town with only 1 employer in your industry, you either picked the wrong industry or the wron town nigger.gtfo of white small towns or start your own engineering firm.then you can hire the retards and get redpilled on labor laws yourself faggot
>>543951420>And work hardThey have you by the balls.
>>543938383The threat of losing your job keeps the peasants in line so they properly ass kiss.
>>543940310And if you're not retarded you can rake them over the coals in prud'homme. But most people are passive.
>>543951998Or I guess I should say it DID. Until things got so bad that zoomers see now future and are completely uneffected by the threat.Which is why boomers have moved on to hiring Jeets on visa that they can bully instead. After all they can't quit without a much worse fate. Having to go back to India.
>>543938383It's only at-will if you're a straight white male
>>543951896guess what frenchieif your firm has a bunch of do nothing NAFRI slackers theyre gonna loose the the contract and theyll give you a layoff for lack of workso either way you lose being a slouch.if you cant move into a position requiring less labor and more brains, then youre stupid, and will eventually be outworked by guys in their 20s trying to get their foot in the door to a great job.we arent talking about mcdonalds jobs moron, some men work in utilities, machining, areospace, defense, heavy industry, or construction.
Ever heard of DARE?
oh look, all the euro faggots are gone since their bullshit opinions can be refuted by a competent White man
>>543946388>>543948068Ah, I see what he meant now.My bad.
>>543952176>its dAAAAAAARe
>>543942443anon, you have to pick a career based on your life outcome expectationwant family, kids, wife?stay in town, in stable salary-track industry.want moar money?construction, sales, comission work, finance, lawyer, etc.in gommunism the state picked your track and it was ghey.the state not involving itself in labor relations is the essence of freedom
