Assisted Euthanasia is unironically one of the most shilled things ever It’s so shilled that both people on the left and right think it’s good. It’s bipartisan. Why do both the left and right say “nuh uh we shouldn’t do x da gubmint will abuse it” but when it comes to killing the vulnerable and weak both leftists, libshits, and extremist chuds are like “cool” and only the Christian right and a few leftists care? Isn’t it kinda pathetic to pick on the weak and vulnerable, especially in a manipulative way?
>>543953646I think it's fucked up too. Just let old niggas take themselves out with morphine OD or whatever if they really want to.The whole idea of doctors bringing this up as a possibility to patients is just so absurdly ghoulish. The only case where I'd say it's appropriate is paralyzed people who can't do it themselves.
>>543953646>Assisted Euthanasiawhy wouldn't you want to help kids in Asia?
>>543953815The funny thing is I’m pretty sure in old movies this shit was seen as like dystopian, and now Redditors and leftists are trying to hype it up. It makes sense for the chuds to like it though since they don’t value human life similar to communists, which also explains why the left loves it. Anything to give more money to browns and less to whites (Assisted Euthanasia in Canada is mainly done to whites)
>>543953815Dude committing suicide yourself is so dangerous, there's so many things to go wrong and so much suffering and you might not even die.We need a clean, painless way to die.
>>543953646I mean it's one of those things where I have to put on my nuance hat. Things would be a lot easier if it was just a black or white issue but it's not. There are people whose quality of life is genuinely so bad that it is a humane option. But like anything of this nature, there will be a lot of pushing of where the line should be drawn and that's where it gets complicated.
>>543953646Nobody's killing them except they themselves though, it's literally suicide, complete with quadruple checked paperwork and ptocedures.At some point ya gotta grow up and realise you lack the strength, means and reason to force people to live, and that life just isn't special for many creatures in existence.
>>543954280Death by its very nature is never painless.>>543953815It should never be "brought up" euthanasia in principle is not allowed under any form of pressure, as that defeats the point of suicide and shatters the integrity of all parties involved.
>>543954479I'm pretty sure with enough research, money and practice we can come up with a painless suffer-free surefire suicide method.
>>543954280Newsflash: the painless and foolproof method is just to OD on the painkillers they give you. Doctors have been doing this for decades. If there's no more hope they just give you the whole bottle and tell you how many will do it.With those who can't, the doctor does it for them.Palliative care has quietly been medicalized dying for ages and everyone was just quiet about it because it was just help the old and doomed skip a few months. This new system only exists to legitimize all of the most horrific and absurd abuses under the guise of offering what was already on offer.
>>543954280>>543954289>>543954369gtfo of here fed globalists, there is no way 5% of the Canadian population is chronically sick and needs to die each year. Just because you don’t like retards and old people doesn’t mean you fucking murder them, everyone knows that’s what this assisted euthanasia shit is all about, saving money and weeding out the “weak”, it has nothing to do with mercy or sickness. If it was, you’d see far less people dying and far more effort into curing these people. I refuse to believe like all these Canadian boomers want to commit suicide when they get too old.
>>543954565ODing on painkillers is not foolproof, sorry. Do some research.
>>543954638>Uhm, like educate yourselfUnironic nigger behavior.
Spend some time around dementia patients in physical and mental agony, terrified, falling, and shitting everywhere 24/7I'd rather die before I got to that point
>>543954665This. The young retards on this board know nothing about real suffering and that some things are worse than death. >t. 60 yo boomer
>>543954664>education is for niggersNothing to say.
>>543954581>there is no way 5% of the Canadian population is chronically sick and needs to die each year.Yeah see, that's where the "nuance" part comes in. Unfortunately most people just want an easy black or white answer they don't have to think about, so these kind of conversations never end up being productive.
>>543954665Okay fine That still doesn’t explain why it kills off 5% of people And it still doesn’t explain why they wanted to expand to people with like Autism and Bipolar and Schizophrenia and shit
>>543954581>"Nooo you have to let me meddle in other peoples' lives and deaths like a typical globalist or... or you're a globalist!"Seriously faggot?It's just a less fucked up version of hiring a contract killer to put yourself out of your misery.Cleaner for everyone involved.>>543954557Technology has limits ya know, it's not magic.Physical pain is literally just a tiny signal signifying "part of me has just died" (luckily living things regenerate their parts), death is the supercedijg version thereof and is thus pretty much the deginition of pain.>But we'll kill the spirit first with drugs!Great job frontloading the sting of death and adding it to the pain of passing.
>>543954665Problem is by that point they’re essentially too far gone to consent anyway. It’s tricky.
>>543954771Aye and survival instincts are usually the last thing to go.
>>543953646I don't know about anyone else, but if I had dementia like a few people I've known in my life, I'd want to quietly clock out with some of those good meds they give you when you have an operation.On the one hand, I don't want the government to tell me I can't clock out, but on the other hand I wouldn't want doctors to be able to kill anyone, like babies with Downs, etc.It is a slippery slope.
>>543954759You literally want the government to kill you. You’re a cuck. That’s not dying on your own terms. That’s letting a bureaucracy decide that your life is worth dirt and that your organs belong to rich Chinese people. I think everyone who is pro MAiD is subhuman, and I will not jump off the cliff with everyone else.
>>543954759Pain does not necessarily signal death. It's just nerve electricity.You can have death without pain for sure.
>>543954850>"Wah wah wah my opinions on what others do to themselves totally matter!"Have an honest talk with yourself why you care so much about this, those people would be gone either way y'know.The bureaucracy decides jackshit and can initiate jackshit, they're just there for the paperwork.And no i personally wouldn't bother with that crap either, but others evidently do need that aid or we would not be having this discussion.
>>543954824>On the one hand, I don't want the government to tell me I can't clock out, but on the other hand I wouldn't want doctors to be able to kill anyone, like babies with Downs, etc.But that’s what they’re gonna do Infact they’re gonna target people with high functioning mental disabilities and try to convince them life isn’t worth living. They’re gonna take what little bennies they have, make the world worse, make more propaganda to demoralize them, and then start telling them “wouldn’t it be great if you could end it all?”You have been brainwashed. The worst part is that they’re directly targeting the people who support and want it the most, they know that autistic 4channers and Redditors, etc hate life and being alive, so they know this shit will entice people to commit suicide And it will target whites 95-99% compared to other minorities.
>>543954946"Certainty" about something rather obviously unprovable like that is not something good.It's fine that you are hopeful for whatever reason but it's usually anywhere between futile and counterproductive to attempt to avoid pain like that.
>>543955000You can just report those people and get them stripped of their medical degrees if they genuinely do that y'know?Sometimes paranoia is just paranoia.
>>543955059Whatever dude.Anyone who knows biology knows that pain can be caused without cell death. So pain is not equal to death and vice versa.
>>543955117You have too much faith in these organizations
>>543953646> Assisted euthanasiaJust give them a tall building and paint a target on the ground
>>543955178You may have missed that little qualifying word "physical" in front of pain i used, but you do raise a good point that many non-physical non-emotional forms of pain are fundamentally immune to pain killers too (as they do not occur via pain receptors), making it likely yet more futile to try.>>543955205I have zero faith in them, i observe and test.
>>543955302Ask AI you fucking retard."No. Pain can result from irritation, inflammation, or nerve activity without cells dying."
