I hear a lot of people whisper about them when they talk about politics, but they never go into detail about who they are or what they believe. Can any political wizards in here tell us more about them? And who do they align with the most politically in the USA?
>>543960661Modern version of them are Chabad Lubavitch. Some messianic death cult, funded by Russian oligarchs
Nothing burger
>>543960746you’ve done it now
quick facts with some help summarizing from chatgpt:* Sabbateanism: 17th-century Jewish messianic movement centered on Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676).* Kabbalistic origin: Based heavily on Lurianic Kabbalah—cosmic exile, divine sparks, and restoration.* Messianic idea: Zevi claimed to be the Messiah, destined to bring redemption.* Tikkun olam: “Repairing the world”; restoring the divine order by liberating divine sparks.* Holy sinning: Certain transgressions could paradoxically advance redemption by entering and redeeming impurity.* Sufi association: Sabbateans interacted with Sufi mystics and incorporated elements of Islamic/Sufi mysticism.* Sexual rites/orgies: Sabbatean circles were associated with ritualized sexual transgression and alleged orgiastic practices, including allegations involving Sufis.* Conversion: In 1666, Zevi converted to Islam under Ottoman pressure.* Dönmeh: Followers who outwardly converted to Islam while secretly maintaining Sabbatean beliefs.* Jacob Frank: 18th-century radical Sabbatean leader who presented himself as Zevi’s successor and developed Frankism.* Frank’s century: 18th century (1726–1791); Frank and many followers eventually converted to Christianity.
>>543960661They are a race of merchants that mostly took over America in the 1870s with Wall Street.
I guess Attaturk was from Masonic Donmeh family that worked as 5th column working to tear down Ottoman empire from within (which is basically how these people roll)
Critical Theory = modern-day Sabbateanism
>>543961590Damn good find anon
interesting
>>543960953This
>>543961283>work as a 5th column to tear down from withinAdamGlauer, also known as RudolfvonSebottendorff, was a Jewish Freemason who founded the Thule Society. He studied with the same order that influenced Sabbatai Zevi.
>>543960962What does this table mean? How do I read this
>>543960661Nothing same shit they just saw Napoleon as the Messiah.Napoleon = Antichrist in theyre eyes.He failed end of the story
>>543960661probably just means the Mafia or something
>>543961227>do you think you're chosen by God but also want to be a piece of shit? we have a religion just for you.
I still don't understand the concept of redemption through sin. Unless its some gnostic-coded God is Satan thing or antinomianism.
>>543968918look up "rap music"
>>543960661https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXsybiSEKjg
>>543968991This is wild.
>>543968918It is hegelian dialectics in metaphysical terms. It's the belief that doing bad causes good to arrive, and then a resolution, which is a net good. You can replace doing/arriving with other verbs but it always reduces to the same logic.
>>543960661first of all, you can just copypaste your op post into google search and it will tell you better than most posters here, in detail, with receipts.they are derived from the sabbatean school, which is why they're called sabateans.this is a very antinomian version of judaism, in which sin is exalted as a mens of ascension to holiness. they talked of the V, where you start off high (being reincarnated, coming down from heaven), descending into sin (the point of the V) and then rising back up. a massive amount of jews belonged to this group. they also had some weird fascination with the virgin mary for some reason, as well as ritualized father daughter sex. so pedophilia was a big part of this. this is even on the wikipedia article about them. a lot of them ended up being subsumed into the haredim (which are not monolithic, it's more a grouping like "evangelical") which is why you keep seeing this stuff pop up in their communities. a large number of them began reconstructionist and reform synagogues, where not only the oral torah but the written torah are not obeyed and not even seen as something to be followed. they eat pork, do whatever. but you still see this same antinomian bent to them that you see in say baptists and gnostics.there are a lot of connections between frankists and co masonry, a type of european masonry which not only allows atheists, but also allows and even encourages members to talk about religion and politics in lodge meetings. they explicitly use a lot of macgick and esotericism, like kaballah and alchemy. they also focus on radical gender equality, so things like feminism and gay stuff, or even the concept that the canadian parliament needs to be 50/50 male and female, is something that resonates very well with that movement. these guys are on a self proclaimed mission to save the world.there is also a connection with annie besant of the theosophical society, whose publishing house is in the un building.
