It's almost like communism was good.
>>543970979Yuck.
>>543970979>communism>actually owning real estatepick one
>>543970979GERMANICS ARE FUCKING COOKED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO FUCKING WAYfaggots act high and mighty and can't even afford a fucking house kek
>>543970979>ownershipSurely,if they pay their mortgage loan on time for the next 30 years.Until then it's Shekelberg's house.
Franco nationalized most of the housing industry and built millions of homes and gave full ownership to the people in Spain. The Falange also refused to let housing become a private matter.
>>543970979I've seen what kind of houses they "own"
>>543971084Hans has much better renter protections than other Euro countries. Still fucked long term if you a renter tho.
>>543971128still better than 0 or renting
>>543971062cope seethe dilate, pick one tranny
>>543971062There is no longer communism anywhere in Europe. Most former communist and socialist countries introduced a law that gave the people official ownership over the properties they lived in during communism, after communism and socialism fell. So yes, it is full ownership.
>>543970979>I own a shack in the middle of nowhere >gommunism won
>>543970979>property taxes>own0/10
are we counting 500sq foot dachas as homes?
>>543971084Thats because all you bitch peasants work here, not because germans are renters.
>>543970979My brother bought his first home in Vienna off a stagehand salary at 24 lmao.
>>543971084You don't understand you fucking bigot. There's literally millions of political refugees who need shelter, food, a little spending cash. Hey who doesn't need that? Who'd rather own a home than give a future doctor or engineer a head start in life? My door has been open to countless African refugees. They are kind, respectful, all male, and we all get along. Jawaboo from Timbuktu has an enormous black cock. BBC as we call it here in the US, or a Hot Carl if you're living in Cali. Point is, don't be a piece of shit. Got it sweaty?
>>543970979Jackie chan loves you. Don't you forget that.
>>543970979yeah i'm so happy i own a commieblock apartment where i can hear my neighbor take a shit
>>543971260Got a restrainer order that says otherwise
>>543971306Better than renting a paper shack where the neighbors shit leaks on your head.
>>543971098No, romania is like in the states, you have property taxes and if you don't pay them they take "your" property that you "own."
>>543970979>>543971062>>543971128>>543971184kek
>>543971228>For a house you own and actively live in as your primary residence in Slovenia, you will generally pay €0 in property tax, provided the property fits within standard residential sizing limits.>But what if you're a kike like me and own 30 houses.A house shouldn't be an investment for kikes to play with.
>>543971084It's true, this country is a hellhole and nobody is talking about the actual problems.
>>543971356>Average German passport holders
>>543971084zey don't do zat in germany.
>>543970979I'm gonna move to Romania.
>>543971332Most romanians take 30year loans to buy a house.. the small property tax is not the problem.
>>543970979>less than halfHaans, what the fuck?
>>543970979>literal aids homesThey own them because they can't get legally rid of them
>>543971376Good for you, we love germans if they're white and right wing
>>543971084wait until you learn that the houses they rent have no kitchen whatsoever. the tenants are expected to spend 10k euro to install a kitchen in a house that it's not theirs.germans truly are the ultimate cucks.
>>543971356these people are poordo you think they could rent something better?even if it is a shitty home, it is still their home, they own it, they don't have to pay anything elseyou have a biased mindset from your "rich" country
>>543971454Based anon who knows how homes work.
>>543970979my girlfriend is macedonian and her family does have a nice homebut im going to be honest there is literally nothing to do there and she and all of her siblings moved to benelux and germanysame for every other family i met thereeveryone and i mean EVERYONE born after 1980 seems to have moved to western europei met exactly two young people who live and work therethey work in good professions but the pay is absolute poverty tier worse actually than i imagined for the kinds of jobs they dowe paid 30€ for a full evening of drinking eating food and playing darts which is nice with a western wage but the local wages are so low that locals still cant really afford to do that too oftennorth macedonia is definitely worth a visit for a week but living there doesnt seem great
>>543970979Is this a Jew map?
>>543970979Communism was just the less well formulated Jewish poison. That's why it's no longer offered on tap.
>>543971521>>I didn't feel adequately entertained by my surroundings.What a dumb complaint. If you were bored just do something. I live on a fucking mountain, own my home, and the closest store is a 45 car trip. I do shit all the time.
>>543971521>muh entertainment
>>543971589way to misrepresent what i said retardwe hike a lot wherever we go and north macedonia has great nature but its not comparable to western europe at allthere is a reason why literally every young person tries to get out of thereim not saying it to be mean because i like the country and people but i have never been to a place with less of a future
The solution is TKD
>>543971390dude, it still stands, you don't own property.
>>543971521>polluted your genes with the brownest dna in europe except for albania award
>>543971726I apparently understood it fine.>>543971713Maybe you communicate poorly.
>>543971750they are very mixed peoplemy gfs family is peak slav but there also of course lots of albanians and turks
>>543971084you wouldn't be owning any property either if you had to pay 800k+ for a tiny home while trying to save pennies by handing out 60% of your income for rent.alas most social housing in goymany is given away to shitskin rapefugees, so the commie argument doesn't hold since they prefer to help out newcomers in return for their aid during elections.
>>543971726Future is bright. Nice and quiet What is your ideal future? Flock cameras and clubbing?
>>543971844nahto me it just looks like you live in similar places in the US and now youre coping hard
>>543970979Green is first world and the rest is quite literally 3rd world
>>543971428The feeling is mutual. Love the people, love the language, love the music, love the culture. Gonna buy a house in a remote location, work from home and find my a wife to keep chickens with and make infinite children.
>>543971748>>543971390they've also been increasing property taxes. They used to be very tiny. Also they're a form of unrealized capital gains tax since they scale with the property's estimated value
>>543971953That's because your values don't align with mine.Im very eco focused and consider myself to be a caretaker of the natural world since folks like you keep. Building Starbucks and sports bars.Before sir condition you had shade and streams.Before fast food. You had free food I usually say this with alot of vitriol. But in saying it more for you to understand. The suburbs and people with your view point are niggers to me. They ruin the neighborhood.They want it cheap and easy and their willing to sell their children and themselves for it. Im just into the natural world man. It's Mt highest value because without it. I die. You too. You need dirt bro. That's where food comes from.
>>543971840Does it take 20-30 years to build a tiny home IN GERMANY? If you buy a house you just live there rent free, if if you're building a new one it should only take months or a couple of years tops.
>>543972118i dont know where you get the idea that i have any kind of problem with nature?its just that not everyone can be a farmer or live in isolationthere are far too many people for thatwe need both rural and urban people and jobs for everyone that pay a living wageyou clearly have some massive insecurities
>>543970979I've seen those "houses". They're either favela tier card board shelters or would at best count as a garden shed or dog house.It's perfect for animals guess.
>>543971446what the fuck
The weak should fear the strong, of course.But the strong must fear the weak when they gather at your gates in large numbers, and they brought a guillotine with them.
>>543970979>all the poor countries own their home
>ireland>69%In 2000 we used to have the highest rate of home ownership in Western Europe at over 80%.Since then the government has let in "rental only" international property companies like Starwood Capital owned by a homosexual New York jew whose parents were "holocaust survivors".>you will own nothing (and pay exorbitant rent to gay jewish Brooklyn slumlords)Thanks jews!
>>543970979communism has been gone for over 35 years there, retard
being rich actually means never owning property. the fact that you don't understand this means you cannot be white *smug shit eating grin*
>>543972136A square meter land to build a house on is around 400 Euros in my area. So a suitable ground is like 300kThen you have to build a house matching up the newest emission standards, driving cost up to insane levels. 700k is a normal price for a normal house. See picrel. It's just the house minus the land to build on
>>543970979Hahahaha Why would capitalism let you own a home wigga
>>543972667It isnt much different than asia. They use a lot of electronic devices to simplify everything. It is basically a modular kitchen.
They can lease you a house for more money or evict you from your property and make more dough, nothing on capitalism improves if you own a homeYour wellbeing is not capitalism
>>543970979It wasn't. My father was .making $600/year working a regular job. $1,200/year household income. I spend more on food and wine in a week
>>543970979>Own their homesI can confirm that my family owns our 'home'. It's a shitty apartment that jews are trying to steal.
>>543971121Based Franco and Falangists!
>>543970979What the fuck? This is it, I'm moving to Ukraine.
home ownership is a thing of the past, homelessness and renting will be the norm and there is nothing anyone will do about it
>>543970979Oh look, its fake Macedonia
>>543973437Vote left comrade, forget the bullshit, own a home start a family like god wanted
>>543971220No, in romania the apartments were SOLD at the nominal price the state was valuing a home. I think it was between. 75,000 and 100,000 lei. However, mad inflation hit the country so the money agreed to be paid became pocket change so it was virtually free 5 years in. The contracts were written and signed in 1990 and installments were scheduled for the next 20 years.My parents paid for their place in 1993. They paid 300,000 for the.flat, a VCR, a TV and a stereo lmao. 70,000 was the flat and the rest were the random electronics kek.So, IT WAS NOT FREE. Its just that the state learnt the hard way about inflation and pricing xD.
>>543970979If living matchbox with prison like gates counts as home then yeah I guess
>>543971332I pay $200/year for a flat in the capital city. You pay 2% of house value each year LMAO.The flat is worth €125,000 so if I were in the US I'd pay thousands. If I don't pay my property tax they send a letter that I can ignore for as long as I want, even 5 years if I want.
>>543971223In fairness you all live in flats like animals. Subsidised flats but thats not important.
>>543973518the left won't do anything about home ownership either, in the future all homes will be owned by asset managers
>>543971356That gyppo has literally zero housing costs. To be fair he doesnt have much in terms of housing wither lmao.
>>543970979You know, it's funny, capitalists all extol the virtues and greatness of property ownership, then do everything they can to take it away from as many people as possible.
>>543971062Houses are for living in, not for speculation, you fucking kike.
>>543971062>paying taxes and submitting to zoning is actually the pinnacle of ownershipshow your real flag, based Somalian
>>543971376Keep your german residency and tell nobody (state) about it. Pay zero tax coz you're abroad. Tell romaniams to suck a cock OR start a Ltd company here and outsource all your costs on the company and pay yourself via dividends. Do not be employed in romania.Get your health insurance from private clinics, its better and cheaper than paying taxes. Imediate availability. Costs peanuts (under €200/month)
>>543973019here everyone just builds illegally (without permission, they own the land) and then starts the legalizing process that takes literally foreverunironically most of the country is technically illegal construction, they cancelled all the active cases last year and initiated a new process that literally went nowhere, they just took new (free) submissions for the same buildings and then nothing happenedpeople also build massive 3-4 story houses, put the insulation on the inside and never put on a facade because then they don't get taxes be the house is unfinished or something
>>543973693Why you think the left won't? is an important part of, "housing undesirables" that one thing you chuds are sure the left does
>>543973019I believe you, but the other guy sounded like you still had to pay 60% of your income for rent AFTER you already bought a house. Even if you were in the process of building a new one and couldn't move in right away you wouldn't have to pay rent for very long, only until it was build, at witch point you can just move in and don't have to worry about rent anymore, you would only pay your mortgage or nothing at all if you paid it off completely.
>>543971223I own a nutshack.
>>543971084I call BS on 47% too. EVERYONE here is renting a tiny shithole in a highrise commie block
>>543970979all these years of shitting on romanians as penniless gypsies wasted... for nothing
>>543973887they're allowing the use of city property by foreigners, they're not actually giving away homes
>>543970979Eastern countries today are far more capitalist than the west
>>543973937At least commies built you a block instead of expecting you to buy land at stupid prices or live in the street
>>543973814thanks for the advice, gonna look into it. Any recommendations for where to inform myself further?
>>543970979>inadvertant (accidental) map of boomers that own property that zoomer will never own.(for the westernworld)
>>543971121>even fash are better than liberalsbleaklandlords just buy up the government and normies tolerate it for some reason, I don't get it
>>543973994You have bad commies, commies here build houses and poor people gets to own them
>>543973927nobody pays 60% of their income in rentyou gotta be retarded to do that30-40% is more realistic on the high end20% if you got your shit in order
>>543973852>here everyone just builds illegallyIf you do this in Germany you will have to demolish your house and remove it again.>>543973927>but the other guy sounded like you still had to pay 60% of your income for rent AFTER you already bought a houseMy guess is he means paying off the loan you took for buying/building the house
>>543971454They live in a shed. Like an animal. Also yes, they could rent something better. The state would give them money. They could rent something with electricity and toilets. No more shitting indoors, on the floor, like an animal.
>>543971062- 20year -> 25year mortgages currently- 50year mortgages being proposed> owning a house is open to interpretation.
>>543971446>buy a cooking plate for 20€I just saved Germoniggers 10k. You're wel-cum.
>>543971121>do something retarded economicallyfuck guess ill have to invade a neighboring country to pay for all this.>lose war>get hung from lamp postThere is a reason capitalists rule the world and not communists or fascists.
>>543972298Oh for sure. I agree with you. Not everyone can be like this. But people should understand how things are made and where they come from.A little reverence for what allows you to go to Starbucks and what let's Starbucks happens.
>>543972298>>543974434You can't pretend to not be a needy little socialist if you can't literally feed yourself.Just like the people in North Carolina when the hurricane hit. They were independent till they weren't. End of day. Everyone is a little socialist and you should be grateful man, you and your girlfriend are literally the "parasitic eaters" people mock.>>I'm le bored, I find this quaint little town to be a burdensome quandary lf which I am subjected to the most brutal of torture, boredom.Ultimately If your bored if your fault. Youre just stupid and can't entertain yourself.
>>543970979What? How can you not own your own home? Like what you rent and pay someone for the privilige of not being homeless until you die? Wtf?
>>543971084Yep, I'm two steps from homelessness unironically.We live like this in Goynomoney
>>543974630Yes. That is the western world. If you lose your job and can't find one you go homeless. Simple as.
>>543974195>If you do this in Germany you will have to demolish your house and remove it again.That'd be the case here too if the state could afford to personally harm most of the population, but because we collectively decided we'd rather break the law than not own a home, they can't really do shit but juggle forms and pretend there's order at play
>>543974660Jesus christ, and you still provide houses to fresh off the boat immigrants but not for your own citizens.
>>543973651Flats that are more expensive than your entire village and as soon as I saved a few bucks I will buy entire villages and be the german aristocrat I am meant to be.
>>543971084It's only a 25% difference between germoney and Slave enia. Houses cost the same and salaries are double. Hmm I wonder who's better off.
>>543970979Impressive. Very nice. Now show how many of those are actually boomers. Also show how many are still refunding their mortgage.Btw TBD (total boomer death)
>>543970979So good that it outright comitted suicide...?For a single person that is a tragedy, for a system that is honesty.
>>543974826Lol complain more about white extinction maybe we can blame communism for itHashtag capitalism fucked your demographics
>>543973340go and never come back
>>543971062Yugoslvia was a socialist state, private property existed but it was hard capped, and rules were strictly enforced untill 83.
>>543971062We own the houses because we're no longer in communism you dumb rabbi
>>543970979Do not own a home goy, are you a Jurassic communist?Better rent our ultimate intelligent goypod with direct internet connection to your dreams!
>>543970979yeah and how many of the home owners are mortgaged
>>543974755Part of the capitalist plan.Are you woke? Your gonna make folks mad noticing
>own a home?>we don't do that in GERMANY!
>>543977518The whole charade is about the king taxing them, you look back and you see a bunch of people who hated taxes, once you become the king or un this case the state, your taxes determine polÃtics for example how much you tax a can of oil, or how much you tax labor
>>543970979Germany is jewed asf
>>543973525Yes, of course. It was not any different here, but the government could have introduced laws to adjust for inflation if they wanted to. My two points are that it is full ownership, and that people de facto got their apartments for free. The governments were also not unaware of the incoming inflation and hyperflation, it was obvious. It's just that a different legal structure was needed as it embraced capitalism, the main goal wasn't really to profit off its citizens, but to bury socialism.
>>543977781Every man is king of his own domain..for you to demand tribute from mine is criminal
>>543971084the tradeoff is you have to live in eastern europe
>>543978723You think the state will stop at tribute?They want the right to watch over you specially in the privacy of your quarters
>own home>in the middle of nowhere>nothing to do>don’t even have a family (these are all low TFR areas)>drink alcohol all dayI think an apartment in proper civilization is preferable.
>>543971062You could own a house or an apartment but only one.
>>543971062boomer detected
>>543979071What terrible american city you live in that is either an apartment or you live in the wilderness
>>54397097998% of French owned their home under the ancient regime
>>543979175We’re talking about Eastern Europe. American-styled suburban sprawl is not as common in that general region. Regardless, suburban life is inferior to both urban and rural life. My main point is that home ownership in itself doesn’t mean anything. People will brag about owning a home as though that makes them any less of a subject of ZOG.
>>543970979>imagine the taxes50% means that half of the people own, on average, two homes... so one practically pays for both the taxes and also for food and stuff90% ain't humane, they are just proletarians (and contrary to proletarians they don't even reproduce)
>>543978979...I just didn't buy cameras. They won't force youYour gonna welcome it. You will praise it. The same way the oil companies made you denounce free solar.The same way Israeli has you denouncing your own people.The same way you carry gps tracker.Your not gonna even know about the collar. I simply won't buy it.
>>543978979Your going to Iran.Your going to die for Israel.And I'm going to mourn your meaningless life comfortably from my domain.You never were able to afford one. I'm a socialist. I probably worked harder than you, that's why I have things and you don't.
>>543971062Wait we don’t own our own homes even in America. If you don’t pay taxes your home gets seized, if you get a lien from the government your home gets seized. If you get a divorce your home gets seized
>>543979886Why would a chilean do that?Maybe brazilians that are a part of BRICS, chilean foreign policy has always been die in your own wars
>>543974643well, you shoulda been polish instead of chosing to be german
>>543971250were there dragons too?
>>543971084I thought much of it was Wessies owning Ossis' housing because they were cheap after the reunification
>>543970979Whoa what's up with Germany and central europe as a whole?
>>543973937Boomers and non cityt. Home owner
>>543974193Why do you think most people in the city are not living alone in an apartment? Either WG or partner, 60% including facilities is not unrealistic
>>543970979Most of them don't even live in those houses.In my old job, there was a Croatian woman who was renting over here in Dublin who said she actually technically owned an apartment in Croatia, but it was 2 hours away from the city, so even while over there, she was renting a place closer to her work. They call them "commie blocks" for a reason: huge blocks of cheap apartments that nobody actually wants to live in for the sake of pretending like they're helping people. That's communism in a nutshell
>>543970979>Destroy 85% of your housing>Have people claim they own a "free" house (that they pay taxes on) while paying a "Service fee" equivalent to western rent in a concrete mega structure with a whopping 0.2 kitchen, bathroom, and 0.005 laundry setup.>>543971220If you're paying 2,200 dollars a month for a one bedroom apartment in a massive complex sharing amenities with five other families, and you have to get permission from a new employer to change houses is that really owning it?>>543971228A difference in kind.>>543971356Again, this guy can't do things like patch the holes in his wall, even that sheet of plastic over his window is pushing it legally. Windows fixings are on the list of approval needed renovations. This guy had to tape that sheet to the wall to comply.
It's good at keeping a normal standard of living consistently, not for "shooting for the stars" as the west promises. Eastern bloc countries recovered from WW2 much faster than western ones, but then stagnated in everything. Which is good in a way, as even the birth rate stagnated (didn't rise or fall) unlike in the west where they experienced a baby boom and then a massive drop. The east only experienced a massive drop after the fall of communist regimes in the 90s
>>543970979These metrics are weird, so 94.3 is the same color as 87.1, but 75.9 is a different color than 73.7?!
>>543974562That's not socialism, you retard. That's just society and human empathy. Socialism is a form of government. You cannot ascribe all cooperative engagement of citizens as socialism. Go away, little. You have to be 18 to post here. And don't bother coming back. Your mind will never develop sufficient to engage with this place.
>>543974718We do the same shit but we bribe the cops who come to check.Its so sad and hard to live in a country where you can't bribe your local policeman.
>>543970979Huh?! I thought Razzia was just a gas station with nukes?
>>543980069>>Why would a Chilean go to iranSure man. Don't worry about it lol
>>543980069>>We never go and die in foreign wars.WW2Peru
>>543971062My nigga. Getting your own house was much more easier in communism you can not even belive. They simply gave it to you if you did specific job. Even if you did not, it cost almoust nothing compared to today.
