This unironically seems to be the current meta given that the front is a total stalemate. Imagine sitting in your car for hours and hours in a fuel line in a Siberian winter with no fuel to run the car to heat it. Good times.https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-crown-jewel-refinery-ablaze-after-drone-strike-data-center-also-hit-war-first
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>>543986458Why do you care retarded burger? Go eat a donut fatass
>>543987151Why do you not care? And why do you mock other anons based on their flag while hiding your own like a dirty kike?
>>543986458Russia can instantly end the war just by leaving
guess russia shouldn't have started that forever war
>>543986458And? It’s a war of attrition at this point. Read up on the siege of Stalingrad to see how bad things can really get >oh no, I’ve almost used up my gas rations! The horror!Vs>starves to death
>>543987261Putin thinks he's a dead man if he can't claw out something he can claim as "victory". All they take is rubble anymore anywhere, so it's Pyrrhic as fuck and will lead to civil war probably.
>>543987318food needs to be transported and that requires fuel
Jews in Ukraine disrupting oil while jews in israel are disrupting oil. What the fuck is the jew thinking here?
>>543987221I don't care because a) I don't care about a conflict on another continent, b) I care about my stocks, c) Russia has also attacked infrastructureBasically I don't care if Slavs kill each other lol. It's making my war stocks go up with the blood of Russians and Ukrainians and this makes me happy.
>>543987370>Putin thinks he's a dead man if he can't claw out something he can claim as "victory".And he's right. Due to the russian culture of izzat he can't stop.
>>543987398I’m not disputing that, I’m saying it could get a lot worse and that this has always been the meta under such circumstances. Russia has huge tracts of land and oil and gas production in Siberia, Ukraine has the EU which has virtually no oil and gas production and a major unreliable “ally” who recently thoroughly fucked up oil and gas supplies. I anticipate a shitty winter for both sides but one has a natural advantage
>>543986458Ukraine status?
>>543987641Russia's refineries are getting blown up, not Ukraine's.
The Russian live there for ages,are used to the cold and have special cells with tiny antifreeze protection.
>>543987261Faggot talking point. Ukraine can instantly end the war by accepting defeat.
>>543987753Ukraine has no refineries to blow up boss
>>543987709>Help, we're winning!
>>543987791Right and that put's Russia at a major disadvantage then doesn't it?
>>543986458That’s how the west is governed domestically so it’s logical that’s how it’d deal with foreign adversaries.
>>543987889The fact that the concrete dome over the elephant's foot is still intact should tell you who the desperate one is.
>>543987966Why did you change the subject instead of respond to the question asked?
>>543987777Russia can instantly end the war by accepting defeat.
>>543988035Having critical weakpoints isn't unique to Russia. What you're seeing is Russia restraining itself while Ukraine acts like a piece of shit.
>>543988112But why did you change the subject instead of respond to the question asked?
>>543988149I didn't change the subject, you did.
>>543988199No you did. Why did you?
>>543988233Why are you such a retard?
>>543987889>guy with a house: I have a house >homeless guy: I can burn your house down Advantage homeless guy?
>>543988278retards forget to consider how much the other side has to lose
>>543988278Don't bother arguing with the marxist wretch. These are people who revel in the fact that they can hurt you.
>>543988249No u
>>543986458At some point Russia is going to let some tactical nukes off the chain. I've been saying it for years, Russia should have nuked jewkraine already.
>>543988278The point is that Ukraine gets it's fuel from refineries that Russia can't bomb. While Russia get's it's fuel from refineries Ukraine can and is bombing. See?
>>543988372>Russia should have nuked jewkraine already.So why didn't they?
>>543986458Europe and the west will be there to ease Ukraine’s suffering (and help rebuild when Russia loses). Russia will suffer alone, until Putin and his oligarchs sell everything to China and they move to,Dubai.
>>543988372The best thing they could do is have Zelensky killed.
>>543988389So you're saying Russia should start targeting the countries supplying Ukraine because they're valid war targets?
>>543988389You’re going to start bombing Chinese refineries now?
I intuit that Russia is winning based on how those claiming the opposite are doing so mainly in a tone of provocative snark
>>543988518Yes, but they won't because Putin is a pussy who fears NATO>>543988546Why would America start bombing Chinese refineries idiot?
>>543988564Yeah, the Eglin niggers are out in force tonight pushing their bullshit.
>>543988571Pretty sure Russia could or has worked a deal with China that China will sell them back refined products in exchange for crude. Neither is really an ally of the west, just in case you haven’t been paying attention
>>543988571>Tactic admission that this is all about NATO waving its dick around and bullying Russia
>>543987370A Pyrrhic Victory is winning at great cost.A Russian 'victory' is losing at great cost, then lying about it.
>>543988682Oh I'm sure the chinks take and real nice cut of that trade lmao>>543988704Russia is so easy to bully
>>543986458This is great news, the more russians suffer the happier I become
>>543986458ah, ukraine doing a terrorism again I see. Imagine the uproar if iran launched drones from inside the US.
>>543988834>terrorismlmao
The 1991 borders are eternally gone forever and there is nothing ukraine can ever do that will change this
>>543986458OK NAFOID
>>543988704The word you’re looking for is “tacit”, jeetoid
>>543988851They could just keep blowing up Russian oil refineries until they leave and go back to 1991 borders. They could do that.
>>543988770>oy vey it’s expensive War isn’t cheap dude. How many billions have been spent bombing sand in the Middle East? Fwiw I’m on the side that minimizes death and suffering, I couldn’t care less about Russia or the Ukraine and I’m 1/4 pre-holodomor Ukrainian by blood. Not my problem
>>543988933>War isn’t cheap dudeI know, that's why the war in Ukraine is crushing Russia economically. The fuel crisis they're having is pure poison for their economy.
>>543986458lol
>>543988834These suicidal provocations by ukriane have done nothing but get their own lat remaining critical infrastructure shattered by Russia in retaliation, and before long no one is going to have cell phones, internet, heat or power in ukraine all so some smug kikes in London can feel like they “owned” Russia Pretty insane ukrainians are willing to be used like condoms like this
>>543988518Given how much they are struggling against ukraine alone, that would be suicide. Though they ARE doing terrorist attacks and sabotage. Some people were caught here trying to blow up a factory that makes weapons for ukraine(despite all the prorussian narrative of our fag government they dont seem to have any issues with selling literally everything we can make to ukraine)
>>543988922And while the Ukrainians do that the Russians will just sit there with a big smile on their faces right? Maybe The Avengers and Spider-Man can help with the attacks
>>543988976Maybe. Keep in mind Russia and the eastern block had a closed economy for 50+ years, they seemed to manage. They also have China, who makes everything, playing both sides. Honestly I think the whole thing is sad and stupid, but there’s nothing to be done and it’s not my problem, but I do believe Russia has the strategic advantage for whatever good that does them
>>543988766Because your government would never use AI to fake space images and have imaginary space victories right?
>>543988879Lmao no amount of terrorism perpetrated by London will ever in a million years result in ukraine getting a square inch of land back, and instead, it’s more likely 2 or 3 English data centers servicing the entire perfidious jews internet and cell phone communications will eat shit in explosive fashion and all the cackling from bong kikes will go silent “for as long as it takes” Hopefully all the “brownoids” they imported behave when the anarchy sets in
>>543986458day 1000 of the 3 day military special operation
>>543989115I love that the nafo threat is that ukraine will simply become a failed terrorist state, and that somehow the enabling parties that provide the necessary targeting data and arms will somehow never pay price for itIt’s truly at the end for ukraine that nato messaging is switching to defeatest terror attacks enabled by foreign proxies
>>543989225~day 1000 of ukraine never having its 1991 borders again lmaoI’m sure a disappointing Q3 stock report for gazprom will make ukrainians feel like living in the dark with no internet and heat is worth it
>>543988372Nukes are another thing made useless by drones.Do you really want to fuck up your opponent? No need to make the bomb at all, just fill drones with nuclear waste and swarm the enemy capital.Easy and cheap.This is what ukraine will do if they were to be defeated, moscow will become worse than chernobyl.Russia can't win this.
>>543989115>And while the Ukrainians do that the Russians will just sit there with a big smile on their faces right?No they'll be seething hard obviously, from not having fuel.
>>543989683This like a literal childs idea of “checkmate ukraine wins”
>>543990782It's more that nuke threats don't work anymore.
>>543987777If Ukraine surrenders they end up on a worse position than they are now. If Russia calls it quits it would improve their situation overnight (except for Putin).
>>543988278>Advantage homeless guy?Unironically yes. Did you never learn not to fuck with people with less to lose than you?
>>543988518>So you're saying Russia should start targeting the countries supplying Ukraine because they're valid war targets?In theory yes, but they won't do that because it would increase NATO involvement from giving Ukraine weapons and financial assistance to direct engagement which would be disastrous for Russia. Hope it happens, but it won't. NATO has crossed around a hundred of Russia's "red lines" now and they never do shit.
Watching ITGs swear to fight to the bitter death of someone else's kid when both Putin and Zelensky invite the same douchebags into their version of the Oval office for photo ops
>>543988449They won't nuke Ukraine, they want it. Besides none of the weapons being used against Russia even come from Ukraine.They'll nuke Germany, France, the UK. Places that matter to the war, which are strategic. It'll work too - nobody will nuke Russia back.
>>543986458How is making oil more expensive for the world bad for Russia?
>>543987762>pussians have special cells with tiny antifreeze protectionThat's the famous vodka cytoblast.
>>543991555How can Ukraine be worse than being destroyed?
>>543992492>nobody will nuke Russia backWhy not?
>>543992872US won't do it (read up on Rand.org) unless Russia nukes the mainland. Britain and France don't have a credible nuclear triad.It's OK most people aren't big readers on the dry stuff like, what our nuclear posture is. It's pretty boring really to most normgroids.
>>543993006Why wouldn't they nuke Russia back though if Russia nuked them?
>>543986458>>543986657these are great for news
>>543993066Because they will be too scared to lose whatever Russia didn't nuke to dust. It's very simple - Britain probably never had nukes and just got them on loan from us. France may or may not have nukes, but they almost certainly can't afford to build out and maintain nukes now.Even if you believe their claims about how many nukes they have, it's not nearly enough. And take Britain, it has three subs capable of launching ballistic missiles, but zero of them can cruise right now, they're all laid up in port. Additionally, a couple years ago the last time a British nuclear-armed submarine did leave port, to test their missiles, the test failed.These are not serious credible threats to Russia. It's laughable really. Nope, one nuke on Paris, one on Berline, and one on London would take all the starch out of those pussies, easy.Ironically the real plan was to get the US and Russia to nuke each other into dust, taking out Europe's two biggest rivals in one shot and leaving their hands clean. Thank God Trump got us the hell away from the Ukraine mess!
>>543993348>Because they will be too scared to lose whatever Russia didn't nuke to dust.Russia already nuked them though. You're saying they would just let Russia do that and not nuke back because then Russia would nuke them again? LMAO! What is this retardation? What's the point of even having nukes if this is your cucked mentality?
>>543986458Nafo copeRussia took 3 fortresses in last 30 days, there is no stalemateNext cope, look at benzin status in russia, eu and usa, russian prices are 3x smaller lolNext cope, russian air defence intercepts 99% of strikes, meanwhile russian cheap drones fly during daytime above kievYou lost
>>543988278More like the guy with a house is homeless on the streets when his house gets burn down, but the "homeless" pyromaniac has a rich uncle who's given him a credit card and can stay in a hotel
>>543993448>You're saying they would just let Russia do that and not nuke back because then Russia would nuke them again?Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. They would be castrated publicly, in effect, knowing that if they nuked back not a single solitary city in any of those countries would exist if they nuked back.Better to lose an eye than your life.Russia could carpet nuke all three countries and still have two thirds of its nuclear arsenal intact. Easy.But you missed the main point, the whole idea behind the Ukraine war, from the European perspective, was to try to irritate Russia into nuking the Ukraine, or something like Poland or Finland, something that nobody cares about, and then the US would nuke Russia and take the brunt of whatever Russia could dish out. Then the Europeans would pretend to be very sad, but in reality they would be toasting champagne and putting a few more infants on the BBQ.That's the whole point of this war.
>>543994103Would Russia do the same they they nuked Russia? Just cuck and take it?
>>543993711It’s a weak analogy but it’s the best I could come up with off the top of my head. I wish we could all just get along
>>543994297No of course not, Russia's a serious nuclear power. What a dumb question.Russia could put one nuke over Britain's laid-up nuclear subs, they're all just fuckin' parked next to each other, and eliminate their entire nuclear arsenal and retaliatory strike capability in one shot.Meanwhile Russia's got at least 3 Poseidon-armed subs lurking, ballistic missile subs, attack subs with nuclear armed cruise missiles, stealth jets which can fly from Moscow to London and back without taking on extra fuel, space weapons, are you serious here? Britain? France? lel you poor kid
>>543993586>benzin statusthank you for your service, cumrade!Moskva has reach the port under its own power btw
>>543994583You're a really comical vodkanigger on a VPN. How drunk are you right now?
>>543994633You've been posting here for 3 hours on a Thursday. Why dont you have a job
>>543994696Because I don't need to work for money fellow American from America.
>>543994633>goes back to the standby NAFO copeWe will get to see Russia nuke these nations, won't take much longer, and we'll see how they do nothing but whine to us to beg us to engage in MAD with Russia, because they don't have nukes themselves, or are too afraid to use them.Let's just relax and let the warmongering fags (literal homosexuals) running the EU learn a lesson. It'll be important for Putin's legacy - he has to teach them a big lesson, one nobody will ever forget in world history, or NAFO will just continue to attack his nation, and I'm sure he knows there is no guarantee after he passes that somebody less competent might run Russia. Or more corrupt.Nah he'll nuke. It has to be done. Nukes are not just for show. If they are there is no point in creating and maintaining such a huge arsenal, as Russia has done.But I need you to remember something - when he nukes, I will *NOT* tolerate any whining, complaining, etc. Everybody knows the risk involved in attacking a nuclear superpower, EVEN if you transparently use a proxy lel.
>>543994812Thats because you're a dumb nigger NEET that lives with your parents
>>543986458Good they should glass all of them so I dont have to see gulag homos anymore on the net
>>543987151I know you guys have to continuously lie and save face, but the only non-crazy way out of this is to retreat and like, isolate for 20 years.
>>543995531>We will get to see Russia nuke these nations, won't take much longer2 weeks probably>>543995603Nope, try again babushka
>>543986458we need to bomb ukraine to stop the war faster. they are why oil prices keep rising
>>543986458Hope holohs are braced for the 2 dozen retributory strategic bombers.
>>543996061Could be any time. Putin always gives a lot of warnings, just as in the case of Crimea, and Ukraine, eventually they do become the final warning.I won't tolerate any crying or whining when he nukes. Everybody knows the risks. Everybody. It'll be time to put in your big boy dilator and just ride out the pain and fear. At least the US won't be nuked. That's all we can do at this point, the EUrotards seem hell bent on getting nuked and all we can do is sit back and see what happens. Nattering on the Internet won't change things. But no CRYING ok? I want you to promise to be brave and strong. We can be sad. But we have to blame Europe itself, a poodle, for attacking a bear using a pitbull they tamed, fed, and trained.
>>543996675>Putin always gives a lot of warningsI know, it's cringe. To think that Russians used to mock chinks for their "final warning" cringe.
>>543986458What winter? We have giga el nino going on. There will be no winter.
>>543997114Well Putin did warn about invading Georgia, Crimea, and Ukraine, many times. I guess that's the thing about a final warning, any one could be the actual final warning.The risks are clear. Everybody participating in the Ukraine conflict, directly or by proxy, knows them well. And I won't tolerate any crying if Putin nukes. Not here, not in real life. People will snap out of it like they were in a dream. You will too. You'll remember this conversation. I guarantee it.
>>543997397>Well Putin did warn about invading Georgia, Crimea, and Ukraine, many timesI dunno, I remember back in 2022 when the CIA was saying that Russia was going to invade Ukraine but he denied it. Remember?
>>543997248Isn't the main difference between El Nino and La Nina just whether you get winter in November or February, by the time it gets to Europe?Anyway Russia is not doing good right now, between drones advancing farther than the Nazis ever did and possible plague floating about. Isn't it funny how it keeps feeling like nothing is happening simply because all the happenings are on someone's else's doorstep.
>>543997824Well there was no written agreement that he wouldn't attack on that occasion was there? That's all that really matters, after all.
>>543988518Yes. But they won’t because they’re scared of additional retaliation when they can’t even handle ukraine
>>543992872As long as they only nuke London I don't think the average Englishman will mind too much.
>>543998080I don't want a nuking.
>>543998027I know, but that's why I don't believe what he says: because he lies.
>>543989372>will simply become a failed terrorist stateIt was born that way
