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What is the Voynich Manuscript? Is it a hoax? A psyop?
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>>543987599
The last document left after a terrible massacre. Cursed in all ways but one.

It's still legible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAj9rqZiEQ
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>>543987827
They killed their entire culture and ecosystem

Explorers arrived later on, found wheat and rabbits
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>>543987599
>be a medieval nigga
>illiterate
>find le old book you cant read
>decide to copy it without understanding it
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>>543987599
It would have been an expensive hoax for its time. Making a handcrafted book isn't cheap
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>>543987916
Among other lies. The Church came in and massacred them all, with some help from their "friends". Shame really, but then again, they did ask me for a book that could make for them "the envy of all gardens". How dare they heal the sick, the poor, the old. How dare they not let "God" define their fate.

Oh well. Shit happens I suppose. But that was cold, even for me.
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>>543987599
It's a pre-/pol/ schizopost
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>>543987599
ChatGPT will have it done by end of year, making another community seethe because they can't gatekeep their mystic field or hobby anymore, like the math retards kvetching today and seething because they were beaten by a [human-created] machine.
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>>543987599
The best take I've seen is that it's written in some Pajeet gibberish dialect by a moron. Sort of a cargo cult type thing.
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>>543988053
While true, this could just be the equivalent of a shitpost shared among two friends that were incredibly wealthy and eccentric.
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>>543988180
>by eoy
It shouldn't even take a week, but alas it's still not been done.
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>>543988242
True, still funny how many are revealing themselves and just why they were so against AI.
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>>543987599
That was my bad, I got really fucked up one night and just went on a schizo delusional rant.
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>>543988229

Or a very wealthy noble got scammed by some clever but fraudulent scholar.
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>>543988353
Equally plausible (and still quite funny).
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>>543988310
the sleazy jews who were the face of it shit down everyone's throat. It's unsurprising how many are hostile to the entire thing. As it produces things people can actually appreciate only the ones with full-blown AIDS will maintain the posture. Solving something like Voynich would be exactly the kind of PR win that would get the public excited. I'm sure these people have dozens of overpaid marketing whores who should have a list of things like this.
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>>543988161
this
/thread

Why don't these fags run this and all the mesopotamia cuneiform tablets through AI
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>>543988053
It could have been made to shill to the holy roman emperor rudolf who collected wacky art
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>>543987599
There are seven people in a green pasture
There are seven cylinders
There is norse text
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>>543988557
norse?
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>>543988180
i am actually kinda excited about this, there is tons of trash manuscripts that no one cares to read besides the few autists throughout the centuries, ai could just do the work for us

who knows what will we find out
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>>543988620
ð
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>>543988706
prob coincidence
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>>543988622
There are a lot of old texts that are untranslated. Would be a great thing for them to use AI for. The AI companies should have websites featuring work they did solving hard problems just for public consumption. This is the only thing you should ever hear them talking about in normiespace.
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>>543988765
>>543988622
post other absurd manuscripts
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>>543987599

It's 1500 century Jewish magical text. Couple years ago they figured it out, but it's been silence since. Probably doesn't see the light of the day. Too controversial today with all the antisemitism.

It was basically medieval hebrew written transcriptionally (romanizationally).

Unfortunately I'm not well versed in medieval hebrew, so I cannot confirm this myself or make any translation. There are very few who are, and they are silent about this for many years.

I think there might be some ritual murder and anti-christian anti-goy things inside it, and general magical texts in it, and thus confirm all the accusation made by eveyone about jews for last 2000-years.
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>>543988765
imagine the PR they would get if they fed it some egyptian trash and we suddenly got a new Aristotle text
>>543988796
the funniest i know is the alexander romance
here he invents the submarine, pretty kino as young people say
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>>543987599
What word could this possibly be that it is repeated so often?
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>>543988504
that dude in the pic is always upgrading in status
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>>543989009
kek, nice, ive heard of the alexander romance and how wacky it can get but never this
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>>543989009
This guy Nat Friedman was doing a project to teach AI to interpret burned scrolls found in Pompeii libraries. They were making real progress then he got quiet for like a year. Turned up recently again - he was building Muse at fucking facebook.
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>>543988762
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>>543989083
That is exactly why no one has translated any of it and there is confusion about what the writing is.
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>>543989192
I remember that
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>>543989192
i think i remember that, fucking ai kikes wont share what they found with the plebs
>Muse at fucking facebook.
nigga who uses that in 2026?
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>>543988161
i bet it names the jew in that unknown language
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>>543987599
Its a medicinal manual.
>Bath and astrology sections line up with popular beliefs that bathing was medicinal and effected by astrology.
>The plants have normal origins, they were just drawn like shit.
>The VOYNICH language isn't a language, its a code that changes half way through the manuscript. The fact that the it had a key at one point in time as stated by the previous owner means it's in a known language and the key decoded it.... Foreign languages don't have losable ''keys"
The problem is we don't know how it was encrypted or what language was encrypted.
Who ever wrote it felt this knowledge was so special they encrypted it though...
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>>543987599
Monk shitpost/cursive and drawing practice
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All docs be sussin. The most ancient Babylonian talmudist is the Munich one circa 1400. The Catholic church has a broken 1152 years in chain of custody of the Good News
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>>543989083
Something that is repeated/used that frequently would always be reduced to fewer characters in any. mature writing system. Much of it comes off as lorem ipsum type filler. If there are sections without that weird repetition I'd study them first, figuring the repeating areas might be literally gibberish mean to fill in space.
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>>543989182
its like marvel for medieval peasants, the guy who wrote this had read the Plutarch and the Arrian versions and then started adding on random myths

whats interesting is that there are thousands of manuscripts, most are property of the churches and they are just left there as no one cares enough about them, especially nowadays with how shit the pay is for research
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>>543988911
>It's 1500 century
Funny how this era keeps cropping up as if the dark ages never happened
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>>543989759
That's one hell of a color palette. Must be a lot of mordants for the woad. Pls no spectrophoresis, bro
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>>543989605
who claimed there was a key ?
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>>543989988
the yellow part is actual gold btw
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>>543989501
>wont share what they found
Muh occultisms; the OG midwit trap
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>>543989083
nigger.
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>>543987599
Some kind of art project. Remember, people had nothing whatsoever to do back then except work. And they actually worked fewer hours than today.
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>>543990593
>Obvious gold leafs is obvious
It's the red white and blues that are most striking; cinnabar, lead, lapis lazuli?
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>>543990871
kek
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>>543989083
Probably "nigger," although it also looks like it could say "jolteon"
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>>543991123
>Illuminati manuscripts were actually pokemons
You've cracked the code, anon!
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>>543987599
I always considered that it may have been a book used by some type of healer, shaman, soothsayer etc. in a time when the layman was not able to read the text looks legit so this healer could “look at the book” or teach lessons while showing the book and illustrations to the people who definitely can’t read it anyways. Either that or it’s some long lost gypsy language that has been extinct for centuries
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>>543987599
recipie book of medieval alchemist sorcerer who invented his own encryption and collected magic spells and other coding recipies in there
not to be confused with medieval wizards and warlocks
apparently there are several efforts ongoing to decode the glyphs
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>>543989083
Holy holy holy is the ancient of days holy one that appears in the clouds.
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>>543990971
thats a good question homie, wish i was knowledgable
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>>543987599
There was a /x/ thread about a guy claiming he could read it by writing a deciphering tool on his own. Was a very mathematical thing. Didn't follow the thread to its end. Idk.
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>>543988373

Even funnier if we would try to guess how that fraudulent scholar could have created the text. I forgot if there are any regularities in it but I would guess drawing random letters from a bag would work, however not with each letter only represented once in the bag. Most language just got more "e" than "x" for example. What I mean is that something with the structure of a language could look like a chipher even but be in fact just random gibberish ...
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>>543990871
came to post this
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>>543990971
its probably not the latter two
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>>543987599
>Is it a hoax?
most likely, to fetch money from whatever monarch bought it. If I blame jews is a 90% chance to be right.
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>>543988128
stfu you dumb jew
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>>543997065
it first appeared being shilled to rudolf II, who had a keen interest in collecting strange art and particularly, rare medieval manuscripts
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>>543994203
>ChatTDG
Do you know how useless is to be a tripfag but use meme flags? Why you painters fail at everything and then accept the blame for things you never did?
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>>543997174
so he got served.
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>>543990083
I hope you appreciate I bothered to look it up for you
https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2024/09/25/voynich-manuscript-scans-reveal-early-decoding-attempt
>multispectral imaging in 2024 revealed he had written hidden columns of letters on the manuscript's first page
It is most likely in a language that the early owners spoke, be it latin, greek or polish.... But don't get too excited, the complicated part is the cypher.
We don't know how it was done but only know that half way through it switches styles entirely.
We don't know if some symbols are meant to represent multiple letters, we don't know if there is a rule change after so long... We don't know if it's a foreign alphabet used to phonetically spell out a different language.

There were also old correspondence letters discussing a key and previous owners having one to read the book.
As I said it's some alchemy/medicine/herbalism/astrology book.
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>>543997463
>We
is that a cipher for fags? Is nothing, a hoax book made to be sold for gold, go back to /x or something
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>>543988911
>>543989083
"goyim", wow I made a breakthrough!



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