If gun laws "don't work" then how come USA is the only country in the world with serious problem with gun violence?
>>544010644Because most of the gun owners in America are pussies.
>>544010644Lujan got fat
>>544010644Niggers
>>544010644America is full of criminal niggers
>>544010644Lack of nigger control laws
Zoomer aesthetics are the worst
>>544010644norway, switzerland and binland are worse
Counting or not counting gang violence?
>>544010644We have gun laws and serious gun violence. That's because the niggers committing the illegal gun violence, much to the surprise of literally no one, also break other laws too. Retard.
Because the reality is that niggers are responsible for most of the "gun crimes" aka having tribal warfare between gangs.But lefties can't admit that niggers are the problem so they blame guns like how right wingers blame video games instead of shitty mental health drugs
>>544010764>mass shootingswell obviously norway wins gold in that eventbut in the category of total shootings, America dominates.And niggers STILL tongue my anus
>>544010821Where do you think "illegal guns" come from?
>>544010644We don't have a gun violence problem, we have a nigger violence problem. The rates of gun related violence among White Americans is comparable (or lower) than the rates in most western European countries. >USA is the only country in the world with serious problem with gun violence?It's not. Pretty much every Caribbean and Latin American country has far higher rates of gun violence and firearm related homicide than the US. The US has ~5 firearm-related homicides per 100,000 people compared to ~17-20 in Mexico, Brazil, or Colombia, or over 40 in Venezuela and Ecuador.
>>544010806oy vey
>>544010960You put the illegal on the wrong part of that quote.
>>544010806>>544010888according to chatgpt>suicides 68%>escalated arguments 16%>domestic violence 6%>robbery 4%>law enforcement 3%>gang violence 3%
>>544010960There is no such thing as an illegal gun, it's only "illegal" because some faggot in Washington said so.In practice, a belt fed .50 BMG M2 Browning should be in every American household
>>544010972Never heard about school shooting happening in my European country with sensible gun control.
>>544010644Jews allow niggers to run rampant.
>>544011095Because guns are already banned so they dont need to commit false flags to get you to give them up
would rape to death in front of a conscription center/10
>>544011075Fun fact. When they banned guns in Australia. Gun deaths dropped because the majority were suicides. Suicidal people lost access to guns, but the suicide rate still went up anyway. Yet people say "gun deaths went down" as if it was a victory.
>>544010644is it time again for this stupid debate?
>>544010644Americans were given access to firearms because they were expected to defend their own property. Over time gun ownership became part of America's identity. Non-Americans never had this, so very few people own guns and wouldn't object to a ban.
>>544010725>Niggers/thread
>>544010764Well that was 12 years ago. Wonder what it looks like now
>>544010644it's not; more people died in europe because of a lack of cooling last year than more people died in the last 10 years because of gunsage for memeflag
>>544010644It’s not though, there are other countries with far greater percentages of firearms homicides that have stricter gun control lawsIf America was only White people it would be no more violent than Hungary.
>>544011185Sad. Pathetic.I love having guns, I wish to have as many different kinds of guns as possible and to have plenty of ammo too
>>544010644Anyway, the libtard who lied to congress about Trump in the limo is going to jail.
>>544011166No citation, no year.
>>544011166Are black people or latinos going to evaporate tomorrow?No?Then you need gun control.
>>544010725this>see also FBI crime statistics
>>544010720>implying thats a bad thing
>>544011271no, because then people would just use kniveslook up UK's knife crime rate and fatlitiescompare to our'sthey mirror each otheryou can get shot, stabbed, or have your head bashed in with a hammer, this is earth, if someone wants to kill another person, it is very easy, depending on who exactly.
>>544010960Shockingly, still to no one, it's yet again niggers committing crimes.
>>544011095Never heard about a leading product or service invented by someone who went to eu schools either
>>544011139I'm sure your government is SO afraid of you...
>>544011271>Then you need gun control.Sure. For spics and niggers. We can just call them spic and nigger control laws for short.
>>544011271Gun control increases violent crime rates.
>>544010758Gen X aesthetics are
>>544011432That'll fix it, because as we all know, spics and niggers have the utmost respect for the law and never commit crimes.
>>544011271And end up like you?No thanks, a gun or in the case of a female, my dick, does the job just fine.>>544011407But they are, why do you think they want to ban guns so badly?
>>544011387Tells a lot about your education.
>>544011351Which is why we should all have suicide vests. No one wants to attack a mad bomber. Not unless you're really far away.
>>544010644>serious problem with gun violenceThe cities with the majority of gun violence are democrat controlled shitholes with the most strict gun laws. You, motherfucker, need to worry about you own festering shithole.
>>544011477>why do you think they want to ban guns so badly?To protect innocent children.
>>544011484>If your heart stops you go boom>for safetythis would be so funnybut plz don't
>>544011536>muh kidsSo why do you put them next to trannies, migrants and fags?
>>544011480Lol the literally one company in Europe congrats
>>544011271>Curtail your own rights because specific groups won't stop committing crimesWhy does everybody have to be punished why not just put in harsh gun control laws for niggers and spics who commit most of the violence involving firearms? Why is that option off the table?
>>544011536Then just get rid of niggers and spics. There's fewer of them than there are guns. Much easier to round up.
>>544010764"well yeah the cartels kill people with chainsaws and have running street battles against the government with hundreds of fighters but they don't meet the narrow definition of mass shootings that we're using to achieve our policy goals"
>>544010960>Where do you think "illegal guns" come from?The same place "illegal drugs" come from you fucking midwit.
>>544010644Thomas Aquinas would argue that God gives the free will for people to do what is right and just. I would say those who do otherwise should be found, judged, and dealt with appropriately. We don't judge or penalize people adequately anymore. Stick and carrot.
>>544011656the definition of a mass shooting is 4 or more deaths
>>544011632Because you live in society.If everyone behaved, we wouldn't need laws.But they don't and we do.
>>544011536>Passing laws against the law abiding protects the children from the criminal outlaws who don't follow the lawSay this out loud to yourself and tell me how it makes sense?
>>544011632As much as I make fun of this guy's flabby ass body, he's at least doing the work, I wish I could find a place to do shit like this
>>544010644American men are so hot fuck sexy
>>544011477>why do you think they want to ban guns so badly?To prevent the impending socialist uprising. It's pretty unavoidable unless capitalism suddenly fixes itself
>>544011661Not true. Illegal drugs are (mostly) not manufactured in the USA like illegal guns are.
>>544011712You didn't answer my question. If pretty much all of the gun crime is coming from those two groups i.e. blacks and hispanics then why does everyone else have to be punished who are barely commiting any gun crimes at all?
>>544011632>just put in harsh gun control laws for niggers and spics who commit most of the violence involving firearms? Why is that option off the table?It actually is an option. Looking at the 2nd Amendment through the "text, history, and tradition" lens, you come to realize gun "rights" were only ever meant to exist for humans, i.e. white men. That was it. The 2nd Amendment never meant for shitskins to have firearms. It should bet a capital offense, punishable by instant death, for any subhuman to be in possession of a firearm.
>>544010644>If gun laws "don't work" then how come USA is the only country in the world with serious problem with gun violence?check'tcause niggers shooting in the streets killing people are not paying attention to gun laws.you see the stuff that came out yesterday about the "somali gangs" in minnesota shooting in the streets just unloading dozens of mags on full auto weapons in the middle of fuckin neighborhoods? Fuckin niggershttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/100-shot-somali-gang-gun-battle-rocks-minnesota-sheriff-warns-troublehttps://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/nearly-100-evidence-markers-found-after-somali-gang-related-shooting-in-bloomington/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxdbftsjKl4
>>544010644common sense gun control would be taking guns away from niggers
>>544011713Gun control and overall reduction of guns in circulation makes it harder for criminals to obtain guns.Most illegal guns started their "life" as legal guns.
>>544011777>like illegal guns are.I've seen pakistani dudes make poor quality AKs out of recycled steel and random junk
>>544011712The tree needs fertilizing from time to time .
>>544011833Trust me I do agree with you, the 2nd amendment was only ever supposed to be for white people no other groups. The Founding Fathers would be wondering what the fuck is wrong with white people giving firearms to non-whites and especially blacks.
>>544010644Niggers.Other countries have a lot of guns too (Canada for example) but we don't have a gun problem other than sikh subhumans, our equivalent of niggers.
>>544010644Because niggers.Account for niggers and american gun crime falls down to the most pedestrian of euro norms.
>>544010960>Where do you think "illegal guns" come from?Niggers stealing them out of peoples homes and cars every single dayWhite people break in looking for money or drugs or shit they can sellNiggers break in looking for guns or goodies to put in their house
>>544011858You support soft on crime prison sentences for black criminals with illegal guns. You think they need love not prison.You don't want to punish violent illegal gun owners, you want to punish law abiding white people who don't love black felons enough.
>>544010644>>544010725>>544010644This
>>544011858Removing niggers and spics make it harder for criminals to obtain guns because there are less criminals. And it's easier. But for some reason you won't consider the rational choice.
>>544011777>like illegal guns arePlease name any illegal guns manufactured in the U.S.
>>544010644Are you retarded? Do you not see the threads on here flooded with brazil monkeys shooting each other?
>>544011858That goes right back to my other post then as to why guns have to be restricted for the people who commit barely any gun crime at all? The only way to reduce overall gun circulation is to take guns out of the hands of law abiding who aren't committing gun crime. Essentially you don't really want a reduction in over all guns you want guns and the use of force involving a firearm centrilized with the government and criminals.
>>544011790Because that's what being a responsible adult is like.There are some people that are capable of doing hard drugs responsibly without destroying their own lives and hurting others.But most people can't do it - therefore we ban drugs for everyone.Those few make a sacrifice for the benefit of all.
>>544010644Nonwhites
>>544011858
>>544011271Gun control works exactly 0%The niggers committing all the crime are not paying attention to gun laws and are stealing the fucking guns. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens wont do anything, niggers will continue to find ways to steal them. If you ban guns completely and make everyone turn their guns in, you will get a whole bunch of beta cuck white men turning their guns in. You will not have any niggers turning their guns in. This means the niggers will continue to have guns while you take guns away from law abiding people. This will be an even worse situation because eventually the niggers will learn that only they have guns since all the wypepo turned their guns in. They will go on even more shooting sprees and the theft and break-ins will skyrocket as niggers with guns will be going door to door committing even more crime unabated.
>>544011477>why do you think they want to ban guns so badly?check't
>>544010644We have a nigger problem not a gun problem
>>544012021So we need to ban free speech because some people say bad things?Just because your mind is incapable of understanding the concept of an inalienable right, doesn't mean we ban something. We don't need to pander to simpletons.
>>544011967Like all of them?Most guns used by cartels (that are then smuggled back to USA) originally come from American factories.
>>544012021>But most people can't do it - therefore we ban drugs for everyone.That's not the same though because a majority and I'm talking +90% of gun crime is coming from two groups. So why not center efforts on those two groups?>Because that's what being a responsible adult is like.A responsible adult looks at the problem and would see these two problem causing groups wanting to do something about them not punish everyone. That's called being irresponsible when you are punishing everyone plus you aren't really taking the issue seriously.
>>544011536>why do you think they want to ban guns so badly?>To protect innocent children.Yes, the gobbermint continues to plan, and carry out false flags to kill children to scare people into giving up their guns.Definitely some stand up characters in the gobbermint i tell'ya
>>544012021Being illegally punished for something you didn't do isn't the adult thing to do. Removing the niggers and spics doing all of the crime is.
>>544012142>American factoriesIf you're going to have a position, you'd think you'd research it first. #1 gun sold in the U.S.A., Glock. Where are the vast majority of those made?
>>544010644>If gun laws "don't work" then how come USA is the only country in the world with serious problem with gun violence?Look at Brazil, Ecuador, or Zimbabwe. Sheesh.
>>544012130Black people and latinos are Americans just like you and have the same rights.Don't know why you keep bringing it up like it has any relevance to the actual feasible solution to the problem (spoiler: that solution is gun control).
>>544011641>just get rid of niggers and spics. There's fewer of them than there are guns. Much easier to round up.Such a solid ideaI wish we could carry this outHell since the Jews are only 2% of the population we should be able to throw them out too while we are at it.Boy we would have a safe haven if we could get rid of niggers spics and Jews all at once. The crime rate would plummet and make the JewNited States of JewMerica into one of the safest places on the planet.
>>544011407>>544011536glowniggers are so fucking retarded
>>544010644>gun problemodd way to say niggers.
>>544010644>serious problem with gun violence?Perhaps look at gun violence in Africa and see if there might be some sort of correlation
>>544011712>Because you live in society.>If everyone behaved, we wouldn't need laws.>But they don't and we do.
>>544012281Any first world countries?
>>544010644chiquitita, yo si te saco de trabajar, te mandtengo y te pongo casa... nada mas quiero darte unos besitos a esas pequitas
>>544010764wow. those full white countries have it worse than America
>>544012298>the same rightsOh so you care about "rights" when it helps you ignore the cause of gun crime in America. It seems like you're not arguing in good faith. Just another disingenuous shill.
>>544012142This has been thoroughly debunked, unless you have a source that says otherwise. The fact is that you know what the answer to gun violence is but you are not comfortable saying it out loud. You know in your heart that the majority of violent gun crime in America is caused by the black population. If you were truly interested in a solution, and not just politics, you would be openly discussing the black crime issue. You are being disingenuous, and you know it, because it disagrees with your politics.
>>544012298>Black people and latinos are Americans just like youWell, no, they're not. One major difference among many is that they commit a lot more crime, especially violent gun crime.
>>544010644mex
>>544012310I was talking about progressives - they want to protect children.Right wing (especially MAGA) are obviously the evil ones.
>>544012142Why don't you have a problem with cars then? Car accidents, crashes, etc. kill far more and I mean far more people than guns yet your attention is centered entirely on firearms. Why is that? The same could be said of alcohol, cigarettes, etc. they all result in far more deaths than guns, why don't you care about those deaths if it were truly about saving the children and saving lives?
>>544011967Bob, jim, matt, Donald, Steven, liam, tom, Philip
>>544011910>Because niggers.>Account for niggers and american gun crime falls down to the most pedestrian of euro norms.KeK'tcorrect
>>544010720superior lujan
>>544010644because other countries are just controlled by dictatorships and nobility who of course won't allow people to have guns
>>544012298>Black people and latinos are Americans just like youNot really because the country was never founded for them and the early laws of America right after the Revolutionary War make that very clear what an American is i.e. free white men and women.
>>544012396Being a faggot isn't the progress kys you waste of EU tax money
>>544010644>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, give up your guns Lol, itt a jeet is seething because it's visa is getting revoked and it scared that Americans are armed to the teeth.
>>544012384You don't stop being American citizen just because you've committed a crime.And definitely not because you belong to an arbitrarily defined group that commits more crime.
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Yes Ukraine needs to give up their arms Ms. glowietits.
>>544011632O lawd he jigglin
>>544011220if you lumped Nig and Mex together it would be 99%not that many Nigs in CA, but every Mex I've worked with in 20yrs of construction will have either a murder victim or murderer in their nuclear family.
>>544012512You stop being an American citizen like any other when you commit more crime and especially violent gun crime, which is exactly what my post said. And race isn't arbitrary, it can be defined and has important implications, like for crime and especially violent gun crime.
>>54401125994% can readalmost sounds biological
>>544012512>arbitrarily defined groupI think it's pretty clear at this point that this fool isn't arguing in good faith. There's no point in continuing this discussion. Anons, you're wasting your time arguing with a shill.
>>544012670>I think it's pretty clear at this point that this fool isn't arguing in good faith.Obviously. But he's also a retard and it's funny.
>>544012512That's correct. You become a convict. A convict is rightfully at the bottom of the social hierarchy if everyone agrees on the law. Unfortunately...
>>544010725Lierally this.
>>544012494>country was never founded for themIf you looked at the calendar you might've noticed it's no longer 1776.
>>544012512>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, do not redeemLol, no one is buying your shit jamboy.
>>544012841>social hierarchybut enough with the marxist memes
>>544012902That doesn't matter because we are talking about the principles the country was founded on.
>>544012902>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, do not redeemLol, LMAO even H1b are temporary
>>544011271>Are black people or latinos going to evaporate tomorrow?Not with that attitude.
>>544012902Niggers and spics are no more suited to live in a white society today then they were then. If they were, they wouldn't be committing so many crimes and especially violent gun crimes.
>>544011164My favorite statistics manipulation from Australia is when they pretend mass shootings occurred in any significant amount to crow about how few mass shooting incidents they have after prohibition. It's statistically zero now because it was statistically zero then.
>>544010644Ever heard of a little thing called Ukraine?
>>544012970And those principles are no longer relevant.They've been superseded (in democratic process).
>>544012902I can smell you from here, saar.
>>544013069>Saars, do not redeemLol, LMAO even
>>544012931Felonies mean you're not going to be placed in a position of a lot of trust. Don't be retarded.
>>544013069Democratic process doesn't happen at the end of a gun barrel like the Civil War or civil rights. You denounce those episodes if gun violence, don't you?
>>544013196for a good reason! what about people who get that treatment without any reason (not even a racist one) except politics? hmmmmmmmm?
divide by raceI'll wait
>>544010644Doesn't matter if gun laws "work". They're inherently immoral. Anyone who would infringe a natural right because of pragmatism is a pc of shit.
>>544010644No one to turn to?
>>544010644Imagine being well aware of picrel and still concluding that guns are the problem. That takes a special kind of stupid, or far more likely, a shill.
>>544013556>that graphman it sure seems like you guys have a nigger problem
>>544013633>man it sure seems like you guys have a nigger problemCorrect, it's not a gun problem. And anyone who approaches this topic earnestly sees that. Anyone saying something to the contrary is likely a jewish shill.
>>544013689ironically, the people who suffer most are probably the darkies who don't behave like niggersyet they are the first to be thrown under the bus by their democrat "allies"
>>544013775This anon understands American politics!
>>544013804I'm from Europe, and have gypsies, so I know what it's like when they don't have even a mathematical chance to act human...
>>544011185WrongYou were given guns so you could form militias and take down any government that became tyrannicalHasn't really worked the way the founding fathers envisioned
>>544013910>You were given guns so you could form militias and take down any government that became tyrannicalClose...Taking down a tyrannical government wasn't the only reason. The more persistent reason was making the government fear ever becoming tyrannical. How well that's actually worked is debatable, but we can look to how the Australia government treated its effectively unarmed subjects during covid vs. how the U.S. treated its citizens during covid. Maybe one country didn't try the vivid camps for a reason.
>>544010644Lol got you, you stupid faggot.>>544013251
>>544010644Because we're violent insecure faggots.
>>544014147We? I'm not black.
>>544014060we had like 4 camps with 4000 capacity total and only threw abos in themi'm not sure what your media told but it was not nearly as big a deal as you yanks make it out to bein fact we had some of the biggest protests in the world against the covid tyrannyso big they had to import foreign police to beat up all the protesters
>>54401064490% of all US gun violence occur in 4 cities. We need to ban nigggers...
>>544014453Enough of us are regardless of race.How many road range incidents turn into murder a year. It's fucking comedy if it wasn't tragic.
>>544014944>fucking comedy if it wasn't tragicKek, it's comedy precisely because it's tragic. Two "Americans" with the last names of "Sanchez" and "Rodriguez" shooting each other on a freeway offramp in Tennessee, is absolutely fucking hilarious and I need more of it!
>>544010734True
>>544010720she's a muscle mommy now idiot, far from fat.
On a side note, aren't Mexican yearly death by firearms insane but you can only own like a .38 special revolver?
>>544012994
>>544010644>>544012743>>544012931It's fucking retarded how pretty she is. And people try to put her down saying she looks like Bucky Beaver . . . hey fuckfaces, in case you never noticed, Bucky Beaver is pretty fucking cute too . . .Shame about the Herpes, though. Damn shame.
>>544015162She would look best face down on a pickup truck tailgate.
>>544010644Most gun crimes are suicides. If they didn't use a gun they just use a rope or slit their wrist.
>>544013016There was like one, then they did the handgun ban and interestly enough homicides did drop because most homicides were organised crime with handguns.We just had the massive one with the mudslimes and their response was to talk about restricting guns even worse. Which is beyond a joke if you know how bad the restrictions here are.It's interesting because the global elites hate two things very staunchly. An armed citizenry, and free speech. There's a reason there is such a big push to shut down both in the US. Because it stands as a reminder to the rest of the world that bulletproof inalienable rights like that can and should exist. Notice that most western countries have slowly eroded both of these rights over the last century, because they were implied rights, not built strongly into their founding documents.
>>544014868Mate I lived in Victoria when it happened. Don't downplay how fucked it was down here. The cops deserve their teeth kicked in for what they did during covid. Bashing lockdown protesters and then a couple weeks later they were kneeling with BLM scum. Chasing people down in the street with rubber bullets and pepper spraying grannies.
>>544013069>They've been superseded (in democratic process)>(in democratic process)That's a funny way of saying the subversion of a nation.
>>544010644
>>544015755Nobody wants to take your guns more than somebody who deserves to be shot.
>>544011480>ASMLHow is it that you guys have one of the most important companies in world and yet you dont use any of what it makes? If you make the machines that make chips, you should be making chips instead of sending that work to Taiwan.Kuka is kinda like this too afaik...they make the best manufacturing robots for automakers but you sell them to China so that the Chinese can take over VW's overseas markets. Doesnt make sense.
>>544016266They make equipment, they aren't a chip manufacturer. It would be like saying because a company makes excavators they should operate an earthmoving business.
>>544012743>>544015426How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
>>544015825yeah victoria was fucked but it was the worst statedan andrews deserves to be beheadedthe rest of the country was mostly fine
>>544011632>throws main gun into a barrel after moving 17 feetfucking real man shit right here
