how you trannies went from russia is using pre ww2 tech and is out of ammo in 2022 to russia is struggling in 2026
why didnt urkraine win yet if so strong and received all the wunderwaffen?

>>544013923
Because they're mongoloids

>Why are you struggling so much to fight against combined military-industrial complexes and banks of US, EU and others? Are you weak or something?

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Reminder: this was Putin's smartest propagandist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lt7JPyoMOk

Its a ww1 situation where tech development favors defensive warfare

why are memeflaggot jews spamming these threads all of the sudden when nothing is happening in ee as always?

>>544013923
Pretty much what >>544015049 and >>544017389 said
Defensive warfare currently has the edge and Ukraine is backed and funded by basically all of the EU and the US. I think it might also be why European leaders are starting to freak out and bring up things like a draft and military buildup, because despite how bad Russia is taking losses, Ukraine isn't any better, and if Russia pushes Ukraine into a collapsing point then the EU is likely going to have a bad time since that'll have burned through a lot of those really expensive interceptors and such.

>>544013923
No one expected of course. Even American intelligence predicted Ukraine’s imminent collapse. Only the russorealists suspected something gonna go wrong, because they knew what a laughably slipshod, trashy shithole Pidorussia really is.

>>544013923
>Did anyone expect russia to really struggle this hard against ukraine?
The reality is Putin just does not care that much. Russian culture is just to keep sending meatwaves to absorb the enemy ammo. If its up to Putin the war will just continue. But they are running low on prisoners, drunks, undesirables and now expending more volunteers who are wondering why they volunteered. The citizens are getting angry Moscow is getting hit with drones daily and their refineries are getting hit daily and people are starting to ask why Putin does not do something about it.

>>544013923
People who didn't realize that drone warfare had changed the meta didn't.

Russia itself didnt expect to struggle this hard and really did think it would be over quickly. They even brought riot police with them during the initial invasion because they thought they could take the whole country and the hardest part would be surpessing unrest after the fact. Boy were they wrong.

They are stupid and even more so now that since 1991 anyone with a little bit of conscious awareness has left that shithole. Only the dumbest pidorashkas still remain.

>>544013923
I distinctly remember saying "This'll be over in a week" on the first day of the invasion. It's genuinely insane how badly Russia fucked up

>>544013923
>Did anyone expect russia to really struggle this hard against ukraine?
Absolutely not, the conventional wisdom in 2021/2 was that russia would blitz Kiev and collapse the government in a couple weeks and then occupy the rest of the country within a couple months.
The hope was that they would then get sucked into an asymmetric war where they would be fighting an insurgency for a decade.
Ukraine managing to survive and actually resist the Russians on equal footing is fucking wild.

>>544014154
Is iran winning right now?

>>544013923
The same way the Russians call WWII 'The Great Patriotic War' I hope they call the Ukraine War 'The Great NATO War'. The idea Russia is just fighting the domestic capacity of Ukraine is socks on ears silly.

>>544019852
Yes but that's totally different because I'm fucking retarded

t. German flag

>>544015049
Cope and you know it.
You are fighting our leftovers.
This joke of a war has proven that if we ever had a real fight, we would fold you like a fucking pretzel.
Poland could solo your bitch ass right now.

No. I wrote back in 2022 that Ukraine will lose in about a year.
But somehow they exceeded any expectations and here we are in the 5th year. And they're still kicking.
And surprisingly they've been hitting Russia deep, which I would have never imagined to see
Destroying a big chunk of their strategic bombers was the cherry on cake

>>544013923
Did you think it would be easy? How naive you are.


Ukriane has a large, well-armed army and it was perparing for war with Russia + all the backing and intel from the west + the geography.

You sound like one of those idiots who trought invaling Iran would be a walk in the park.

>>544019824
Yeah same. They were moving fast and i expected some month long battle for kiev or something.
Yes Russians cope that they are fighting all of Nato but the truth is that Ukrainians are just doing some amazing work

>>544019904
You can't even take on Iran dumb amerimutt

>>544020076
> i expected some month long battle for kiev
That was never going to happen - Russians expected that coming to their doorstep would force Ukrainians to negotiate, and to GTFO as soon as possible. The Istanbul deal was on offer like 3 days into the war. Member when Ukrainians shot their own negotiator in the middle of Kiev?

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>>544014154
>russia isn't struggling in 2026
They still haven't taken the Donbass despite that being their easiest objective. A supposed superpower with a huge tank fleet and mountains of artillery not being able to advance 100 km in almost 5 years against an adversary with no natural defenses and terrain that is ideal for maneuver warfare.

I really can't understand how to zigger mind works since for some of you this isn't vranyo but true belief.

Do you remember when russian propagandists accidentally released a victory manifesto before the war was won? Pepperidge farms remembers

>"The Arrival of Russia and the New World"
>by Petr Akopov

>>544017537
You know, you could just look at what think tanks that feeds western elite minds are saying instead of trying to make half assed analysis

>>544015049
peak cope hahahahaha

>>544020198
A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia’s military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era – and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system – but this is worth talking about separately a little later.
Russia is restoring its unity – the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together – in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.

I am honestly. I thought it would be a repeat of 2014-2015 to be honest where a bunch of Ukrainian forces just literally flip sides. I thought Russia would be in Kiev by the end of day 2.
Fucking up Hostomel and not entering the war seriously day 1 really cost Russia this entire thing. Invading being outnumbered 3:1 is a decision.

>>544020271
Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia – for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them.
The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation – when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that “only Ukraine is the real Russia,” or to gnash one’s teeth helplessly, remembering the ti-mes when “we lost Ukra-ine.” Returning Ukraine, that is, turning it back to Russia, would be more and more difficult with every decade – recoding, de-Rus-sification of Russians and inciting Ukrainian Little Russians against Russians would gain momentum. Now this problem is gone – Ukraine has returned to Russia.

>>544013923
Based hoi3 player here.
Nobody thought Russia would struggle against Finland in 1940.
The problem for the West is that Russia is now a country on a war economy, a dictatorial leadership that seems untouchable, and an army with 4 years of combat experience in drone warfare conflict.
Now remember that Russia hasn't even fully mobilized its manpower. In fact at the outset of the Ukraine war its forces were slightly outnumbered by the Ukrainians Even now they are just slightly over par.
Now, just imagine if by some circumstances Russia was to purge its political and military leadership of the corrupt and incompetent and then mobilize its still largely untapped manpower. Along with logistics capable of supporting deep advances. With factories now already online producing munitions and equipment suited for warfare in 2030 rather than1980. With more war machine manufacturing coming on stream soon.
Its a big ask to imagine that, but if it came about then yeah, then Russia would become the juggernaut everyone feared.
In 1940 Russia was humiliated by Finland. In 1941 Russia received a beat down of gigantic proportions from the Germans, yet by 1942 they had recovered. By the 1943 they were masters of combined armed warfare.
It took them just 4 years to go from bungling idiots to becoming a ruthless destroying machine.

>>544020296
This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. In what borders, in what form will the alliance with Russia be fixed (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.
And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era – it concerns Russia’s relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole.

>>544020314
And yet after 4 years they are still struggling

>>544020331
These relations have entered a new stage – the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe. And he is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul he must admit to himself that it could not be otherwise.
Did someone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kiev ? That the Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control of Eur-opean integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forg-etting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unificati-on of Germany, which happened according to the good Russian (albeit not very smart) will. To swipe after that also on Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of ge-opolitical stupidity. The W-est as a whole, and even m-ore so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. In order not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools.

>>544014154
you cant be this retarded, can you?

>>544020373
More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. But the fact that it did not work should have been clear twenty years ago. And already fifteen years ago, after Putin’s Munich speech, even the deaf could hear – Russia is returning.
Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of the western space to the east. Seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importa-nce to us. But this has not been the case for a long ti-me – the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West.
No amount of Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. There will be losses from the sublimation of confrontation on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. But for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation incurs huge costs – and the main ones are not at all economic.
Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy – the German project of European integration does not make strategic sense while maintaining the Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. Yes, and it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe.

>>544013923
I mean every single war russia has ever fought is like this.

if their enemies dont basically roll over and die on their own (like during the summer of 1812) or get crushed by allies of russia, russia has lost every single time

>>544013923
Ukraine is supported by NATO and world jewry

>>544020397
But Europe needs autonomy for another reason as well — in case the States go into self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.
But the confrontation with Russia, into which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives the Europeans of even the chance of independence – not to mention the fact that in the same way Europe is trying to impose a break with China. If now the Atlanticists are happy that the “Russian threat” will unite the Western bloc, then in Berlin and Paris they cannot fail to understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term.
That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new iron curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe.
Whose century (more precisely, half a millennium) of global leadership is over in any case – but various options for its future are still possible.
Because the construction of a new world order – and this is the third dimension of current events – is accelerating, and its contours are more and more clearly visible through the spreading cover of Anglo-Saxon globalization.

>>544020443
A multipolar world has finally become a reality – the operation in Ukraine is not capable of rallying anyone but the West against Russia.
Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well – this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia’s return of its historical space and its place in the world.
China and India, Latin America and Africa, the Islamic world and Southeast Asia – no one believes that the West leads the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not only challenged the West, it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over.
The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, naturally, together with the West (united or not) – but not on its terms and not according to its rules.

>published (then later deleted) march 5th, 2022

>>544020483
What happened in March? Did they pull out of Kiev?

>>544020483

Pure Cinema!

I've never seen that before. It's gotten a good chuckle out of me.

>>544017365
Why it is always a kike making propaganda for Russians?

>>544013923
Yes.
The moment Zelenski shipped jews out of ukraine so they escape the war, it was clear that this was a war meant to last and kill as many russians and ukrainians as possible.
Both Jewtin and Jewlenski are in on it and are making everything in their power for the war to extend.

>>544020314
Russia's strength has always been it's ability to send millions of men to certain death without them even complaining about it. They aren't fanatical about Russia, just death brings release from Russia and that sounds good enough. They fucked up Ukraine by not zerg rushing them completely in those first few days. Every man and his dog should have crossed into Ukraine. Any Russian taking a single step backwards shot. Instead they did some stupid western "special military operation" and predictably it lead to nothing of substance and now they're gridlocked hiding in holes flying weaponised childrens toys at each other.

>>544020563
No thats when the victory manifesto was published. Not sure when they decided to quietly try and scrub it from the internet but it was shortly after it became obvious they werent going to be winning anytime soon.

The piece itself is interesting because it reveals the official motivations behind why all of this went down and what the plans were for managing public relations if they pulled off the invasion successfully. Its notable that they try to frame the blame and justifications for the war solely to be the fault of USA or "the atlanticists" and "anglo-saxons" which would alternatively mean NATO, but the main thrust of the piece seems to blame America for all their woes and troubles. Which while not entirely unfounded is still pretty funny that they are still using that old soviet tactic of pointing the finger at us to justify every shitty thing they do.

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>>544019825
The reverse uno of Kursk was the funniest part to this day.

>against Ukraine

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>>544020137


DELET THIS NOW

>>544020194
>I really can't understand how to zigger mind works
Arrogance, cynicism and vodka. Sparkle with nihilism and you get the blyatiful culture that destroys anything it owns daily.

>>544019904
Lmao
If you attacked Ukraine you'd get wiped out, stick to losing against goat herders

>>544019825
Where did this assumption come from lol - Russians sent in 150k troops into a country of 40 million and immediately offered a deal. They were outnumbered 5 to 1 that year. They were not looking for some sort of long occupation scenario, they were looking for political concessions and to get the fuck out. That it didn't work out sucks for Russia, but it's ruinous for Ukraine. But it's good for us, so all things considering, I'm ok with it.

>>544020729
>send millions of men to certain death
Zoomie Hollywood education

>>544020911
"The Arrival of Russia and the New World" contradicts what you claim. They fully intended to take all of Ukraine and incorporate it into the Russian Federation.

>>544020911
>and to get the fuck out.

there is not a single point in history where russia left a country on their own terms, they always had to be forced out by either military or economic means.

>>544013923
>against ukraine
Surely EU jest

>>544020911
>They were outnumbered 5 to 1 that year.
Ukraine had pisspoor weapons back in 2022. Remeber when they kept begging for antitank weapons and it took until the later part of the year for them to start seeing some.
It literally took years for both Europe and USA to start sending them some real gear. All they got in those early days was discarded old crap that every Western army wanted to get rid of. And they made the best of that.

So it doesn't even matter what the number of troops was, I doubt anyone can verify the number. But even if they had 40 million troops, the number of weapons was the same and they were shit. So only those with weapons could fight and mount real resistance.

And yet Russia was unable to overwhelm an army with much worse gear and much less funding.

Remember again that it took the West years to start sending real gear and significant funding. They had no established mechanisms to do that, it was so slow until they got the current decision forums established and set up the logistics to be able to deliver that.

>>544020483
All of this larp just to make cp legal in ukraine

>>544020998
Georgia - literally part of this overall crisis.

>>544015049
Here's a "Fucked the entire country for nothing" award. You can hand it to Putin the next time he comes out of one of his bunkers.

>>544020483
The absolute fucking state of this schizo.

That was embarrassing to read. TZD will continue. Evropa rising.

>>544020978
Retard

>>544020443
>the European project will simply collapse in the medium term.
>That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new iron curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe.
Oh my god, the envy, the seething and coping. All for it to turn out exactly the opposite.

>>544020998
so like germany

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>>544021055
Ukrainians were already swimming in anti-tank weapons when the war started lol. And for that matter Ukraine's Soviet and indigenous ATGMs worked quite well. But tanks were not particularly decisive weapons in this war.
And we know the numbers quite well. It was a force fit for a cabinet war, not a long occupation of a large country.

>>544020382
Hormussy Status?

>>544020194
> Donbass despite that being their easiest objective
No clue nigger lmao

>>544019824
It was over in one week
That’s when Istanbul documents were signed
But then pidors were shown their real purpose (to die out)

>>544021055
>Ukraine had pisspoor weapons back in 2022
No
Ukraine produced their own anti tank system that could take out t 80's, you fell for western propaganda hype about magical weapons, just like the leopards, f16s ect ect

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>>544020911
Historians have reconstructed what had actually happened in picrel.

>>544021167
As opposed to demilitarization and de-nazification (regime change)?

These threads would be so much more interesting if ziggers actually tried arguing in good faith instead of desperately changing the topic and vagueposting whenever something inconvenient to their narrative is posted.

>>544021496
Try reddit fag

>>544013923
I expected Ukraine to give up, but they didn't. Kind of based of them I guess. I should have known after Russia's pathetic attempts at controlling their Chechens that this would play out similar, but on a worse scale, but I wasn't paying attention.

>>544020911
they were expecting a quick coup where as soon as they walk into the country, the ukrainian army defects or stands down, the government flees and the people greet them as heroes.
which might have actually worked in 2015 or so. but by 2022, Ukraine's government was much more stable, its army better trained, and it had access to western intelligence that kept them 5 steps ahead of the russians. they just waited too long.

>>544013923
hohols get 100 billions in military aid every year, more than their entire gdp and are throwing their whole population to russia without a care about the consequences

>>544013923
No, the Russians didn't expect the west to bankrupt itself and collapse its global empire just to stop Russia from seizing a small portion of the Ukraine. No, the Russians didn't expect the Ukrainians to be so servile to globohomo that they gleefully let their government kidnap their men off the street and handcuff them and drag them to the front line just to die. No, the Russians didn't expect that the Ukraine and their western masters would be so short sighted that they refuse good faith negotiations and give Russia all the excuse it needs to occupy far more of the Ukraine than they ever dreamed off.

Russia is winning the war and they're winning it with as few casualties and economic damage as is possible with modern warfare. That takes time. Only westoid retards think fast wars = victory. The west won in Iraq and Afghanistan in weeks, then spent years taking casualties and losing tens of thousands of soldiers only to wind up running home in total defeat having achieved zero objectives.

Russia is going to achieve its objectives - security of their western border for 100 years, the destruction of the Ukraine as a functioning state, the dismantling of US global hegemony and military influence in Europe - and they're doing it in less than 10 years with less than a million casualties and no economic collapse. That's a very good showing for modern war, and better than any western country has done since WW2.

>>544019904
>lost against some peasant villagers
>constantly loses against sand niggers
the only wars the jewsa wins are the economic ones with its globalist kikery

>>544022118
>The west won in Iraq and Afghanistan in weeks, then spent years taking casualties and losing tens of thousands of soldiers only to wind up running home in total defeat having achieved zero objectives.
Huh, they toppled Saddam which was an objective.
And they killed bin Laden, another objective.
They also destructured ISIS.
What they haven't achieved was to secure pro-USA regimes, because that nation-building story failed.

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>>544020483
>Russia’s return of its historical space
Yep
Except it doesn't mean what you think it means.

>>544020729
>Every man and his dog should have crossed into Ukraine.
Dogs are left home to fuck their women.
Russian men fuck eachother so crossing the border all at once would have been impractical as they would have had to form a cock train stretching for miles.