GET IN HERE FAGGOTS>ATF cannot force GOA members to register suppressors or short barrels EVER AGAIN. This is PERMANENT!x.com/GunOwners/status/2105781222966464593
Happy for you free state guys. Unfortunately I live in NC. I hope there'll be some amendment to our state laws soon.
>>544014211>GOA membersHow long until this also goes away?Joining a club to bypass regulation is just about the most Washington thing I can imagine, but it still feels wrong.
>>544014214I imagine this will become a major state issue in the next two election cycles as more statistics roll in and smaller shops open up to flood the market with glorified oil filters with a baffle stack to tap into the growing suppressor demandPerhaps new companies form entirely as a result. Hope your state wises up and this becomes an issue to vote on!
>>544014215what are you talking about anon? you've always been a goa member!
>>544014215We're all GOA members!Best $25 you can spend right now honestly.
>>544014211IS THE MARKING REQUIREMENT FOR MANUFACTURE STILL IN FORCE, YES OR NO?CAN I PUT A PISTOL UPPER ON A RIFLE LOWER WITHOUT GIVING IT A NEW SERIAL?THIE IS THE ONLY THING I CARE ABOUT.
>>544014219go ahead, nobody care now
>>544014219You never had to give it a new serial.
>>544014216tbf someone more enterprising than me should buy some shipping containers full of cheap European suppressors to put downward pressure on the market.
>>544014219Nobody ever even cared about that to begin with anon
>>544014212>an AOWFuck yes buying my Serbu super shorty and cane gun
>>544014224I want the mossberg compact cruiser.If only it came in a mag fed option.
so.. if I'm in PA with state NFA laws but also joined the GOA, does this still just not really matter to me? this is still just about the 20~ or so states that were involved in the original lawsuit right?
>>544014226yeah, state law is still in effect.
>>544014214You’re about to get a blue senator and already have a blue governor. I’m not really a Republicuck but just saying it’s not easy fighting a rapidly bluing state
>>544014227mi tink mi gwaan tek mi own life
georgia has to wait till next year since they worded the law retarded the first time and no one is doing shit during an election cycle
>>544014211Until they just do it anyway.
>>544014227How the fuck is Vermont better than my state for this
>>544014227Why must my homeland be cursed with immense beauty that inevitably attracts subhuman Califaggots?
>>544014221no but you had/have to engrave your/your trusts name and city/state on the receiver. looking it up i cant find a damn thing about it on the atfs website so i can only imagine its still in place, also cant find anything on if the new 5320.20 rule was passed
>>544014219>must manufacturers add serial numbersYes.>can you remove serial numbersNo.>are suppresors firearms?Unfortunately yes. Although they should be merely "arms">can you convert a pistol to a rifle configuration and back?l without any paperwork?Yes.>can you convert a rifle to a pistol(sbr)?Yes if GOA.>can anyone tell the difference between an AR-15 lower as a pistol or rifle?No idea, they are the exact same shape.
>>544014226>state law is obviously unconstitutional but no court ruling is protecting me from infringementWelcome to the judicial system. Cops will arrest you for the laws they believe are in effect and the DA will charge you with crimes if they think they can win the case.
>>544014227>PA in a sort of hell limbo between banned bullshit and FREE STATESFUCK
>>544014233They bought condos in Aspen.
>>544014211So, as a member of Goa, what all would I need to do to manufacture my own suppressor at home?Like are there any marking requirements still in place?
>>544014239being a goa memberthats it
>>544014239A suppressor is still considered a firearm, so all rules for making a Title 1 firearm (i.e. non NFA) still apply.
>>544014241So, "go ahead"?
>>544014230im just not going to worry about it
>>544014232vermont used to be the best state for guns until recently sadly. it was an all white utopia, so jews moved in and brought niggers to Burlington.
This is current event but also weapons related. So I’m conflicted.
>>544014245Mods have always been antigun liberals. That's the only reason for the "take it to /pol/" rule
>>544014245changes in gun law =/= politicsyes it can involve it, but this is more related to health, safety, and old retarded laws than something that political/pol/ also wouldn't give a single fuck or have any benefit from this, since they're all foreigners and noguns anyway
>>544014245If you call the mods I'm inverting your nipples and placing them on your back.
>>544014242and "have fun"
>>544014233Your state's always been obnoxiously lib.Admittedly mine is too (MN) but luckily the DFL is too retarded to be a threat.
>>544014248Don’t worry, mods clearly don’t give the slightest fuck about that sticky as long as it’s not about American Election politics
>>544014211>This is PERMANENTUntil Congress raises the tax above $0.
>>544014215Never ever, as soon as a law orders people to buy something that company / organization quickly becomes rich enough to buy politicians and will have no interest in not forcing people to pay them.
>>544014235>Yes if GOA.Nope. Read the decision and final judgement. Only the Jensen plaintiffs got relief from that. Gotta get that TSRA membership.
>>544014254Can you post the text of that? I just want to put a 14.5 on my AR lower without getting engravings.
>>544014211>>ATF cannot force GOA members to register suppressors or short barrels EVER AGAIN. This is PERMANENT!Hopefully this means we can get started on striking down laws in states that require tax stamps for NFA items
so on which of the 5000 pages are the 2 hidden sentences that will strip away even more rights?
>>544014257Right here!>Suck my dick, lick my nuts
Does this have any sort of nationwide ramifications? Or does it just apply to free states still? Fucking NC. How do we have shit gun laws?
>>544014259Free states only but it's a wedge that will definitely be driven further into NFA states as now you have GOA members, who are now being denied their rights. Which is another lawsuit.And it snow balls from there, much like how we got to this point in the first place.
>>544014257Fuck off shitskin.>>544014259Not explicitly, what it does do though is open the door for a very winnable case that will lead to nationwide implementation. It's a matter of when, not if.
>>544014255Here's a link to the Final Judgement, which has the order to Justice and ATF to sod off. https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1512215/2026-jensen-137-final-judgment.pdfThe Opinion is much longer but is 99.9% stuff that's just, like, his opinion, man. The last page and a half basically mirror the text of the Final Judgement.https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1512214/2026-jensen-136-summary-judgment-opinion.pdf
>>544014259>Does this have any sort of nationwide ramificationsNot as much as people seem to hope. The decision turned on the definition of "tax", The only time the 2nd amendment came up was the judge explicitly stating that it was not considered in his decision.
So im stupid and cant interpret this, does this mean I can legally put a stock on a handgun making it an SBR without any paperwork like its any other kind of attachment? I understand this is very new info but it both says everything and nothing.
>>544014211>subscription based civil rights You don’t hate lawyers nearly enough
>>544014233this picture except it's an obese latinx / obese jew
>>544014250Colorado was famously purple not 20 years ago so I'm not sure what you're talking about. You had obnoxious pockets of delusional hippies in places like Boulder and Aspen, but overall it was pretty middle of the road. Obviously that has changed with the insane amounts of people moving in from California, and the entire state has basically circled the drain because of that. I wish Idaho the best of luck as it goes through the same unfortunate transition, for the exact same reason no less. You do not hate Californians enough.
>>544014211>>544014215Enforcement agencies can't simply make it policy to not enforce the law against certain people. This is an implicit acknowledgement that the registration requirement of the NFA is unconstitutional in the absence of the tax.>But that only helps your lawyer win the case after they've already arrested you!And strictly speaking, there is nothing preventing the ATF from illegally arresting a GOA member, just the knowledge that they're guaranteed to lose in court after choosing not to appeal this decision.
>>544014227>>544014256I wonder what would be the ramifications to these laws if this gets overturned by the Supreme Court
>>544014269SCOTUS has a major gun rights case this term. While the question doesn't involve suppressors, the holding very well could have a positive impact. https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/viramontes-v-cook-county/
>>544014268> just the knowledge that they're guaranteed to lose in court after choosing not to appeal this decision.Nothing is ever guaranteed in litigation. You think a federal district court ruling is permanently binding? Roe v. Wade was binding nationwide for over 50 years until one day SCOTUS changed its mind. It wouldn't even take a supreme court decision to overturn Silencer Shop v. DOJ. The DOJ should have fought this up to the supreme court while the getting is good, but now things will just lie low for a few years until the dems are back in power and then it'll be re-litigated under much less favorable conditions.
>>544014267>You do not hate Californians enough.I am a Californian and I DETEST Californians. I can't get away from these faggots soon enough. I even get mad when I see California license plates when I am out of state. Seriously, fuck California. Next year is the year.
>>544014271>until one day SCOTUS changed its mindThat's a gross oversimplification of the legal battle around Roe. Casey v. Planned Parenthood exists, Anon.
>>544014273Yes, but the point is even well established precedent can be overturned. While the reasoning behind SS v. DOJ is straightforward, the practical effect is a radical reinterpretation of 92 years of firearms law. The idea that it's a fait accompli for all time because the DOJ decided not to appeal a district court ruling is absolutely asinine. I would very much like to see the NFA overturned, and I see this as a positive step in that direction, but this is not a done deal. It will 100% without a doubt be re-litigated at some point, and depending on how the courts are stacked when that happens, there's a very real chance it will be reversed.
>>544014228its all organized crime bringing in these EXTREMELY UNPOPULAR politicians here. the triangle is full of STUPID chickenshit passive aggressive homosex college degree whites who are terrified of saying get these nogs and street shitters out of here, but grumble when in private about TKD, TND, TPD. this entire state is retardsville.
>>544014269clarence thomas the great has been preparing to flex nuts.
Real niggas know what the real battle is.
so with this, as a GOA member, I could go buy a suppressor from PSA in SC as a NC resident and just do a 4473 on it? or i have to do the NC NFA hoop jump?
>>544014278Inter-state commerce bullshit, the shop in SC would 99.9999999% chance not sell on a 4473 but you're more than willing to try.
>>544014279I'll see how it goes when I go there this weekend.
>>544014280Let me know cuz if it works my ass is taking a half day and making for the border like a wetback in Tijuana.
>>544014272Where ya headed, anon?
>>544014281I'll do a thread about it if this shitty site allows me to phonepost without being a pajeet with a pass.
>>544014278>>544014280>>544014281another NC fag here. I would also like to know
>>544014284>>544014281>>544014280FUTURE GOA PLAINTIFFS!!
>>544014272You better only vote red (or not vote at all) when you leave, anon. Hate libtards moving to other states and continuing to vote for library policies then cry that their new home is getting bad like CA
>>544014286>library policiesThank you autocorrect
>>544014233I loved this state so much.I want to huff copium about lawsuits and SC decisions but maybe I should just move to Montana or something.
>>544014286truke. I moved to Idaho and will be voting straight red. Doesn't matter what you think about the GOP. They are better than libtards. And that's the end of it.
>>544014282I am looking at Eastern Idaho. I'm in the gaming industry, and would like to stick with it for now. Plus, life in the eastern part of the state is just so much mellow that Boise. But in general, I just feel so much more at home there than the state I was born and raised in.I'm actually going out there on vacation next week to do some fall trout angling. May or may not be buying ammo to totally not smuggle back. >>544014286I have long believed that I would rather give up my right to vote than ever cast a vote for more leftist policy. I was stupid in my late teens and early twenties. Voted for the prop that reduced prison sentences for some crimes. Doing what i do now I get to see the rancid fruit of that decision. I CHEERED when I saw the first prop 36 (Re-criminalized a bunch of shit) arrest on property. Two retards who stole a wallet and got hooked up on felonies becausce they had priors for it. But prior to that arrest they would get let out almost immediately. I live in a very conservative part of the state. Just outside the State of Jefferson border. We're all sick of the bullshit here. But, we have no voice in what goes on. I've become apathetic and jaded.
>>544014227Minnesota chads can't stop winning. Take that cheeseheads!
BILLY SMITH FROM TEXAS OBLAST I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MASS SHOOTINGS WITH SUPPRESSORS. NFA NEEDS REINFORCEMENT AND AMERICA STOP FUNDING UKRAINE
>>544014271If the ATF were to arrest a GOA member for illegally manufacturing a suppressor, the arrest would itself be an illegal violation of the injunction regardless of the legal status of the NFA.
>>544014232Because despite what you've heard, of high taxes and legal weed, gun ownership is very ingrained across all aspects and demographics in the state of VT. Distant relatives live there and, as an example, after moving houses a while back and doing target practice the first time, their neighbor came out to bitch at them and called the cops. Idiot neighbor actually went ionto their land. Well, cop shows up, asks what's going on, and as soon as they pointed out the neighbor came onto their land, stopped right their, and turned to give the neighbor an earful for doing something really stupid as going into some elses land. Dont mess with people's land or guns up in VT. The cops will set the level fast when it comes to your rights at home.
>>544014293Even as a GOA member with the card and living in AZ. I hesitate to put a stock on my UMP or G36K pistols because I'm a middle class white dude which sounds like exactly the demographic the feds will try to turbofuck because it's low risk.
>>544014267>You do not hate Californians enough.This is a meme. The faggots from California who like its liberalism aren't generally the ones moving away from it.The actual issue is that Democrats are going through a long and ongoing Pelosification to ostracize anyone who doesn't have AWFL political views, so being a pro-2A liberal is more or less social and political suicide now.
>>544014296there are plenty of libtards (and moderates/centrists) who are fleeing California due to cost of living or another issue, but then vote for the same damn thing.
>>544014211>or short barrelsSo I can just cut my bbls now?
>>544014277>the real battle is.>2 blks>4 womenWe are doomed.
>>544014297Not nearly enough to be a major cause of political change in other states, since the average CA fag would prefer suicide to leaving.
>>544014292Worst meme to emerge from the SMR desů
Question.Has the Feds ever actually arrested someone specifically for possession of an SBR or suppressor?Because every case I’ve ever seen has been either A) not the Feds, B) an arrest for something else with the gun charges tacked on, or C) both.
>>544014302It's rare but it does happen, usually when the ATF wants to make an example out of some schmuck.
>>544014295> Even as a GOA member with the card and living in AZ. I hesitate to put a stock on my UMP or G36K pistols because I'm a middle class white dude which sounds like exactly the demographic the feds will try to turbofuck because it's low risk.They try anything they’re fucked
>>544014271>>544014273>>544014274How much they paying you shill and post guns
>>544014295>Even as a GOA member with the card and living in AZStop copying me.
>>544014305This site is a known fed infil site. Get over it.
>>544014298You always could if you weren't a scared little bitch
>>544014308Post hacksaw.
>>544014300>Not nearly enough to be a major cause of political change in other states, since the average CA fag would prefer suicide to leaving.Then explain what's happened to Colorado and other states the vermin have fled to
>>544014302Yeah, they do that.https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/state/2017/02/06/two-men-who-tested-silencers-and-kansas-law-receive-probation/16557272007/
>>544014211>used to live in fucking NJ>move out to PA for my job>love every second of it>mfw now PA is a gay state compared to the othersI feel like I've been bamboozled. Granted I can still get a form 1 or 4 in like 24 hours these days, but still.
>>544014295quit being a fag, no one has ever asked to see my supressor stamp ever. no one cares
>>544014313No one is even allowed to see a tax stamp, except for an ATF agent or the IRS if you were getting audited. Cops, fudds, and ROs legally cannot ask to see them. Amd even if an ATF agent asked to see your stamps, federal law requires them to give you up to a week to go fetch them and show them.
>>544014211>>544014212>>544014213https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veGuR6E1fz0
>>544014299Don't you talk shit about Clarence Thomas, FAGGOT
Is there any hope the ATF guidance will just go >yeah we're doing this (no NFA bullshit for suppressors, sbrs, sbss, aows, etc) in all 50 states kthx byeAnd thus solve the issues for the "NFA states" >>544014227?
>>544014314Straight up not true. Anyone can ASK to see your stamp. But you aren’t REQUIRED by federal law to show it to them.But of course, that doesn’t matter because many states also have NFA adjacent laws on the books, they just throw in an “except in accordance with federal law” exception.
>>544014269I'm not quite sure. I can only imagine they'd have to be null and void because they cannot be adhered to. Nevada's law states you need an NFA item to be registered with the Treasury, which is your tax stamp, in order to possess an NFA item. If the tax stamp is now (or will be) gone completely, you no longer can follow the law. It would have to end up being the case of "Question 1" from the 2016 election, where universal background checks were passed into law but was made unenforceable as soon as it passed because the FBI said they wouldn't or legally couldn't adhere to it
>>544014317No chance of that, the issue is state law they have no control over. From what we're hearing about the guidance it's probably going to be pretty low key confirmation of the legality of the things covered under the ruling. Its probably not even going to cover most of the questions we still have but may remove the form 4 requirements for ffls to transfer sbrs and remove the travel restrictions.
>>544014320RIP me then. PA has some funky shit where it says if you want an NFA item, you have to "comply with federal law." The big question is if the ATF issued guidance allowing 4473 suppressors and no form 1 for SBRs, how the hell would that interact with PA law.
>>544014274>the practical effect is a radical reinterpretation of 92 years of firearms lawCongress changed the law, which is the reason they exist. The court just applied it.
>>544014310>(Includes white hispanics)The governor and attorney general are jews.
>>544014323What the fuck is a white Hispanic? That's like saying "white non-white."
>>544014324Technically, Spaniards are Hispanic, and many South Americans are descended from them. Consider the importance of race early in US history and the sorts out Hispanics they'd interact with. Show an average American from 1800 an affluent Mexican businessman with mostly European ancestry and ask whether he's black or white, and the answer is obviously not going to be black. 200+ years later, race has an entirely different meaning, and most people's conception of a Hispanic person is someone with mostly native ancestry, but Hispanics have traditionally been included with whites and no one can really define what "white" means anyway. Are anglos white? Are slavs white? Are jews white?
>>544014325If you have blue or green eyes, you're white.
>>544014317>thus solve the issues for the "NFA states"That's not how it works. Even now NFA lets you manufacture a transferrable machine gun (not a dealer sample) as long as you register it. The ATF just won't let you register it. The ATF not letting you register other NFA items would not suddenly invalidate those laws that require registration.
>>544014327Can we just fucking kill the NFA? This shit is too many "oops straight to jail" traps.
>>544014326>green eyes, you're white.He's never seen a green eyed Chinese or black.
>>544014329he sees one in the mirror every day
>>544014295You are a fucking pussy and are not who the founding fathers left the 2nd amendment for. You're a hobbyist and a bitchmade one at that.
>>544014331>not who the founding fathers left the 2nd amendment forJust how well do you know these fathers, have you met them? Or even your own?
>>544014332Cry me a river you obedient bitch. You know what the 2nd amendment was written for as well as I do and it sure wasn't so whiney little cowards could brag online about how they haven't worked up the courage to PUT A FUCKING STOCK ON THEIR LIL G36. No one with that outlook is ever going to function in any form of "militia" nor be an ally against threats foreign or domestic. You're using a globally unique right the same way a boomer collects trains, just with laws you bend over for.
>Good morning - as I told the folks at GRPC, NFA Guidance and FAQs should be posted by the end of this week. Thank you.https://x.com/atfdirectorrc/status/2106690868405297454
>>544014333You need to calm down before you hae a stroke and start drooling. If you followed the law more closely you would be happier.
>>544014335>If you followed the law more closely you would be happierBootlicker.
People have been complaining about needing a Goa membership in order to potentially make your own sbr or suppressor. Which is the right thing to do.But I've also seen people calling it a registry. But the problem there is that if you're not required to tell anyone what you've made, they wouldn't have a registry.It's just another tax on rights.
>>544014337Enter GOA Nationwide Case 2: Electric Boogaloo
>>544014336Poser.
>>544014335>If you followed the law more closely you would be happier.What a profoundly retarded and reddit thing to say. I suppose I might be happier but only because I'd be some cuck and resultingly wouldn't have intrinsic disgust for cucks.
>>544014335One of the gayest things I've read in the last 20 or so minutes
>>544014214We are NOT a cuckstate, dammit >:[
>>544014335
>>544014342The map says otherwise unfortunately. We don't even have constitutional carry...
>>544014344The permits are gay, but we don't have to get purchase permits anymore. You can also open carry no permit. We can own any config of rifle/pistol anyone else can. We aren't the best, but we're far from Hawaii or New York.
>>544014339>you have an Independent shirt but you ride tensors? PoserWhat year is it? I haven't been called a poser in 20 years.
>>544014227>Minnesota more based than Montana>Vermont more based than MississippiDid not have that shit on my bingo card
>by the end of the week Lazy fucks are dragging ass.I'll bet the life of my dog that they don't issue a statement.
Also to that fuckwit who say overturning the nfa wouldn’t matter because the court will just reverse it when different justices take over that reversals on cases only happened at 1%
>>544014349Care to try again in English?
>>544014350Kys
>>544014349Well, he's doing that shitty pseud tjing where he makes a technically true but worthless statementYeah, the senate can reinstate the tax. Yeah, the ruling could get reversed later. All SORTS of shit COULD happen, but the probability it DOES happen is another story entirely, and no reason to hesitate to enjoy the victory now and push for more
>>544014227I am figuratively in a prison where any direction I go would be freedom.
>>544014353Go east, better breeding stock.
>>544014347MN has a very strange patchwork of gun politics. It's fucking stupid at times but good God I'm reminded of how much worse it could be every time I hear libs around here
>>544014354Yeah
>>544014356I honestly meant Kansas or Nebraska.
>>544014348The guidance will be extremely vague like "just follow the final judgement"
>>544014357Yeah. I could. I have extended family there who could help me lay down new roots
>>544014352Also imagine the tantrum and mental gymnastics that would come out when this is actually overturned federally
Personally I think that states that have constitutional carry but still issue ccws to make them last for life and give full nfa exemption to all holders
>>544014299You realize the black man is the most pro-second amendment justice on the court?
>>544014331Hey Andrew is talking about you on internet tvhttps://youtu.be/PSvizrYVibk?t=292
>>544014361That would be nice. The CCW permit in my state allows for a transfer without using the NICS as long as the permit is valid and not been suspended or expired.
>>544014211But state law agencies can…
>>544014325If you are protected under the civil rights act, you're not White.
>>544014366Women aren't white confirmed!;
>>544014244>it was an all white utopia, so jews moved in and brought niggers to BurlingtonPress S to spit honestly, southern right wingers have been warning them for YEARS that they need to vote in harder right candidates or they'd get the same hebrew treatment the South got, but noooooooo MUH LIBERTARIANISM, LIVE AND LET LIVE AMIGOS, fuck them straight to hell, god I hate my own people sometimes like wake the fuck up idiots
>>544014292Russians want out gun laws loosened actually because then they can sell us surplus again; doesn't make them our friends overall, nation interests just dont align, but on guns they either dont care at all or want them loosened
>>544014369Even if import laws got loosened again, it is doubtful they'd have surplus to sell with the war in Ukraine and what notWhich is also the reason sanctions got slapped on them in the first place; aggression in Ukraine during the Obama regime
>>544014293>the arrest would itself be an illegal violation of the injunction regardless of the legal status of the NFA.I'm sure you can explain that to Agent Goldblatt while you await your trial for the next 5 years in a federal prison; good luck with your case, hope youre rich
>>544014370Nah they still have gazillion of guns they could sell even after the loss of their monkey unitsNot to mention big firms like Tula would love to be able to actually profit on production for once in a century
>>544014252Get it while getting is good
>>544014371> I'm sure you can explain that to Agent Goldblatt while you await your trial for the next 5 years in a federal prison; good luck with your case, hope youre richI hope they enjoy getting raped in court
>>544014372Always a chance King Monke implements export restrictions until the cessation of Ukraine hostilities to safeguard small arms supply for the mobiks
>>544014214>I live in >Not I'm fromYankees are worse than Califags and I'm tired of pretending theyre not. The Califag stereotype came from yankees mass migrating there. I've met, on average, way cooler califags than yankees.
Tl/dr. I’m a goa member, can I order a fucking can to my ffl without nfa cuckery or not? Fucking government dragging its goddamn heels
>>544014377Call your dealer I did that with a FFL that openly stated they are completing with the injunction and ruling as it applies to GOA members and they said yes, 4473 only for active GOA members + transfer fee
>>544014377Depends on what state you're. Check the map
>>544014227>feelsgoodman.jpgConstitutional carry plus suppressors, can't be beat.
>>544014274>the practical effect is a radical reinterpretation of 92 years of firearms lawNo it isn't. The SilencerShop decision was purely about tax law, not gun law. The judge made this very explicit in his decision.
>>544014378How do you prove you're a goa member? The hat?
>>544014368>god I hate my own people sometimes like wake the fuck up idiotsIt's the inevitable backlash of our inherent niceness and benevolence. Allow whites to live away from minorities and they'll believe whatever propaganda about them that the kikes can feed em because it's the "nice" way to think. I honestly suspect that even if we deported every single nonwhite in this country tomorrow and constitutionally enshrined that this country must remain 95%+ white as a cornerstone, wypipo would just forget why this was important within 3 generations and we'd be well on our way back to modern jew controlled globohomo.
>>544014382Your GOA account contains your Membership Number which is different from the unique backend ID for account recovery and other stuffIt's on the Member Dashboard page and the first thing on that page is a digital version of the GOA Member Card with Gun Owners of AmericaMembership Level (Ex: Annual)Your NameMember NumberActive Until (Expiration Date)The Member Number is really all they need to see
If you become a GOA member today do you still get the benefits of the ruling?
>>544014380The last half of 2026 will be the peak of gun freedoms in America. It WILL be down hill from here. Celebrate it while you can.
>>544014386whatever you say, pidor
>>544014386This is what people were saying when the AWB expired verbatim
>>544014382My shop accepts the reply email as confirmation. Best $20 I ever spent!
>>544014388>awbWho was there you or me?
>>544014385bump
>>544014386>Last halfNigga it is OCTOBER
>>544014385Yes, but now that the ATF has conceded that the registry is illegal without the tax attached, you receive the benefits regardless.
>>544014393So anyone can buy a 4473 suppressor?
>>544014394Maybe sometime in the future. As of now, no. ATF's guidelines are supposed to come out before the end of this week, but don't expect it to change anything nationwide
>>544014359A hot and horny second cousin? Go get her bro
So let's say you're a GOA member, you buy a suppressor on a 4473, and then you let your membership expire. Do you now have an illegal suppressor?
>>544014395>>544014393I'm getting conflicting responses
ATF to announce end of the week that they'll have by the end of the month that they'll have by the end of the year that they'll have by Q2 2027 new guidance.
So can I toss the brace and put a stock on yet? That’s all I want to know.
>>544014400It appears I can be a member of Jensen organization and put a stock on without engraving. But ATF may do a rule change in a week or so and I won’t even have to do that.
>>544014401Looks like $25 GOA membership and donate $10 to FPC Action Foundation, and as long as the state allows it, you can take the brace off the pistol and put a stock on it and that’s it. No tax, no forms, no engraving. You can just do it.
>>544014400>That’s all I want to knowYeah. We all do.>>544014298
>>544014392Or is it Glocktober? Am I right?
>>544014397>go to the gun store>want to buy a suppressor>they ask if i am a member of the GOA>of course i am, thats why im here lol>buy suppressor>leave>remember i never signed up for the GOA, haha oops how silly of me>they never even asked me for a card or to verify my membership or anything>if they did i would have written down a random 8 digit number, maybe pretend to look it up on my phone firstits like a coupon for 25 dollars off your next suppressor purchase
>>544014403It’s strongly tied to state law. In my state, it is a requirement for the jury to find violation of a federal law in order for my state to consider an unregistered SBR illegal. According to this law page, I should be good as long as I am a GOA member and donated $10 to FPC Action Foundationhttps://www.wiley.law/alert-NFA-Court-Ruling-Reshapes-Compliance-Following-Wileys-Successful-Constitutional-Challenge
>>544014406https://secure.fpcactionfoundation.org/membership
>>544014406>>544014407Relevant state law for Alabamahttps://alison.legislature.state.al.us/code-of-alabama?section=13A-11-63&utm_source=chatgpt.com
>>544014406>>544014407>>544014408Seems that the engraving requirement 26 U.S.C. § 5842(a) is still present but the 5842(i) making lack of engraving illegal were enjoined. So you can make an SBR and it’s supposed to be engraved but it isn’t a crime if you don’t as long as you paid FPC Action Foundation $10 and GOA $25 and live in a free state.
>>544014397Yes but after your arrest and conviction you can threaten an appeal on the grounds that rights and protections can't be tied to funding a political organization and get that part cleared up thanks king Hawaiian judge
>>544014408It seems this is the sticking point. Because the injunction doesn’t change the law. The NFA still is federal law, it’s just enforcing it is stopped by the injunction. So I believe it is still an Alabama state law violation that can be enforced.
>>544014227>>544014226>Step 1: Join the GOA>Step 2: Have a legal pistol, and a separate rifle stock>Step 3: Drive to free state>Step 4: Replace pistol brace with rifle stock>Step 5: Return home with your SBR
>>544014315can you find a bigger look at my face and my gay fake voice video of a more annoying faggot?
>>544014412you are a very silly man
>>544014414just someone who's dealt with this bullshit his entire life
>>544014410>king hawaiian judgeTo what is this a reference?
>>544014416a Hawaiian judge making sweeping nationwide injunctions in Trump's first term because orangeman bad
>>544014417I don't get how some random libtard judge can do that anyways. I hate the 'justice' system
>>544014418You can partly thank Andrew Jackson for that
>>544014418because checks and balances only apply to legislative and executive branches, Judges are assumed to be of pristine moral clarity and fairness. After all, how could they not be? The vast majority were previously lawyers, the most nobel and respected occupation
>>544014418Because a violation of one person's rights is a violation of everyone's, however what happens when that judge is wrong? When she twists, stretches and trims the law to comport with her own misguided beliefs?
>>544014418They can't now, thanks to the supreme court ruling on the matter, but the side effect is that the judge in this case wasn't able to enjoin the law nationwide, just to the plaintiffs in front of him.Basically it was too much to expect the judiciary to behave judiciously
>>544014417did he cite the spirit of aloha?
If we still need to engrave our shit for sbrs in georgia then this means fucking nothing, fuck off
>>544014424Just swap your uppers bro and dont worry about it
>>544014425how am I supposed to do that for an mp5?
>>544014426Buy a mill poorfag
>>544014426Just push the 1 (ONE) pin out that holds the """brace""" on. Even easier than swapping uppers. Unless you have a fukken hk91 thats all you have to do
>>544014217>>544014218GOA shills suck
>order silencer from Silencer Shop>go through their normal process since my local FFL is being gay and still transferring on Form 4s>wait three weeks just for Form 3 to clear and silencer to arrive at my dealer>Form 4 gets approved in under 24 hoursSeems like the 4473 process only makes a difference if you are buying from your FFL’s inventory. If you are still ordering from Silencer Shop then it hardly matters if you already have your ATF e-forms account set up and linked to your SS account. Form 4s are taking like one business day now whereas a couple of months ago it was 4-5 business days.
>>544014429thats silly, because you already paid for your GOA membership a while back now
>>544014424Yeah we're fucked in Georgia tell every fag that knocks on your door and texts you you only care about them changing § 16-11-124 and that if republicans don't get that shit through this year then you're never voting for their lame asses againAlso tell everyone else you know to do it, too. They don't have to actually do it, just threaten to.
>>544014424>>544014432>swapped license back to bama but still live in ga atmi am in a hell of my own creation
Gun laws are gay. So gay.
>>544014430Almost 4 weeks? Why buy directly from Silencer shop?>browse online retailers/gun.deals for best price>buy suppressor>ship to local FFL>they do the paperwork in silencer shop system>sign digital forms>get approved>whole process is 4-6 days from buying suppressor to attaching it onto your gun
>>544014430>>544014435Sorta related, but is silencer shop safe? They want like every last bit of info about you like eform pass, ss, fingerprints, id, etc. I get they need it to do the forms, but it kinda freaks me out.
>>544014436...they were literally one of the plaintiffs that got us to this point lmao
>>544014435>Why buy directly from Silencer shop?It was a particular suppressor I wanted that sells out quickly so I had to buy it from them. The Form 3 dealer-to-dealer transfer approval process is what makes it takes so long.
>>544014227I HATE PHILADELPHIA I HATE PHILADELPHIAGO PHILLIES
>>544014436Thats what a form 4 is gay retard
>A brand new Silencer Shop opened up like a month ago close by.>They have counters with sample silencers, some displays, guns propped up on lit glass cases, feels like im trying to buy an iphone at the Apple Store.>Salesman approaches me and shows me his wares, explains which silencers match what i wanted and the prices.>Say, "sure, i like this one, ill take it">Salesguy immediately starts a speech about how they dont actually have any silencers and he starts to walk me towards an open laptop so i can order the fucking thing online.>He also explained that they will have to ship it to a different FFL, one literally just down the street, where they will process the forms once the damn thing gets shipped in like two weeks.>"Oh, uh, I guess I'm still shopping around I'll come back if I don't find anything">Leave and simply stop by the other store and find the exact same suppressor i wanted at the exact same price and just buy it right there on the spotWhat the fuck is Silencer Shop doing god damn
>>544014227cucked NJ herewhens the KKK rally in Trenton?
>>544014441>What the fuck is Silencer Shop doing god damnTrying to be a middle man jew it sound like
>>544014421>what happensThe people force their retirement... in an ideal system
Are the /k/ jannies having a fucking melty again? This certainly seems like a /k/ appropriate topic. Fake war, by the way.
>>544014583based k jannies were gatekeepers, I'd be angry too if all the normies and poors got access to suppressors and sbrs while I had to pay for tax stamps
>>544014211Cool. Will they give Samuel and Vicki Weaver their lives back now?
>>544014441avoiding lawsuits
>>544014214
>>544014211So how should I chop down the barrel on my DSA SA-58?I don't want to waste $500 sending it to DSA to get a new barrel put on it.
>>544016246if you don't care about threading or a professional crown you use a pipe cutter to mark a perfect circle, hacksaw a little above that line, then file it perfectly flush with it. next you use a rounded stone dremel or drill bit with some lapping compound or cutting oil to gently clear the burrs give it a little crown.
>>544014583It's such a shitshow of a board right now. Can't imagine how "suppressors are now legal in the US" ends up too political.
>>544014583>moving discussion about the implications of a ruling on ATF guidelines off of /k/ to any board at allIf /law/ existed they might have a leg to stand on. I guess they really do want /k/ to be a 14 year olds and glowniggers arguing about slavnigger border disputes board.
im ngl if you are abiding by any "gun rules" you are a coward. i dont get why youd be scared of someone trying to oppress you, with a rifle in your hand.
>>544014268And strictly speaking, there is nothing preventing you from illegally stuffing taxidermied pit bulls full of tannerite, staging them all over your house, and wiring motion sensors to speakers that play angry barking sounds either.
>>544014211You faggots were still abiding by unconstitutional laws?
>>544014211WOW THAT WILL MAKE ME FORGET THAT THE EPSTEIN'S RUINED THIS LARP ECONOMIC ZONE WOW THANK YOU OP FAGGOT FUCK FACE
>>544014211Congratulations. Now you can shoot schoolchildren more efficiently, because you sure as hell are not going to use that against the traitorous, perfidious, pedophile president you have or his kike masters. :^)
>>544017852anything that doesn't suck off the U.S. gov or military is banned friendo. Just be happy your thread just got moved.
>/k/Since when did /k/ become pro gun again?
>>544014233Colorado, is worst than California every way. And we have been taking you faggots, as well as every other fucking states losers for +100 years.
Oh fuck. This is genuinely awesome. Talk about a win. Just keep chipping away at the NFA. If you can be trusted with a gun you can be trusted with ANY gun.
>>544014227Mississippi are faggots. Niggers already have switches on their glocks. But white taxpayers can't buy a fucking muzzle device without getting buttfucked by an agency like you're already a criminal?
Why the fuck was this moved to /pol/?It's actually on topic weapons, unlike the million ukraine threads that still go up every day.
>>544014376yankees arent the problem as much as NoVA/DC types
>>544014211Guess how I can tell that this thread was moved here from /k/.Never mind, I'll just tell you./k/ is so full of faggots, trannies, and glowies that /k/ cannot stand ANY win for the second amendment.That is why the faggot tranny jannies moved a firearm thread to /pol/.Because the jannies are faggots on /pol/, but the jannies on /k/ are full blown dickless faggots that suck nigger cock just to feel the touch of another human.This was not my thread that was moved.But I can tell that it started on /k/, crowing about a win against 2A restrictions.And then it got moved here./k/ hates it when you actually talk about firearms rather than just mouthing the current platitudes or posting bait threads to get someone to expose their firearm's serial number./k/ is not where you talk about firearms. It's all faggots, trannies, niggers, and glowies.Stay off /k/. You'll think you are among friends, but it is really a troon or glowie just trying to get you to admit to wrongdoing so they can kick your door in and kill your family and pets.
>>544014583Yes, the /k/ tranny jannies are mad because the 2A got a boost.Tells you a lot about the trannies running /k/, doesn't it?
No flags, so the thread was removed and placed here.A gun rights thread with no flags assigned to the posters.It definitely started in /k/.I'm all for a rousing discussion of firearm rights and shooting people in the face if they invade my home, but to take a firearm rights thread and remove it from the firearms board to shove it here and then get overran with niggerdick spam from kikes spamming this board seems a bit like the trannies are mad and sending the thread here to die from kike spam.
I hunt grouse with a .410 shot pistol. The barrel is rifled but if the barrel was smooth, which is better for shot, I'd need all the short barrel NFA trash.
