chew on this.
>>544017954That's incredible. Imagine how productive they will be in their country of origin.
>>544017954How did they count the taxes if those immigrants were undocumented?Is this one of those guesstimates where you pull a large number that suits your argument out of your orifice?Don't get me wrong. I know gigacorps are not playing nice and use every loophole in laws they paid for.Just curious about the the methodology, is all.
>>544017954ZON
>>544018181>How did they count the taxes if those immigrants were undocumented?came to post thisUNDOCUMENTED MEANS NO DOCUMENTS
who the fuck is documenting it? are the employers deducting the taxes from their under the table cash payments and reporting this illegal activity? are the illegals themselves just sending cash to the IRS? literally how is this determined? from what sources?
>>544017954Nobody gives a single fuck about taxes you dumb niggertroon retard. Those faggot kike companies are the ones who bring the shitskins in. Get them the FUCK out of our countries.
>>544018262Sales taxes is what they mean when they say illegals pay taxes
>>544018307ok that's logical, but they also have no choice, lol
>>544018307So, they identify themselves as illegals when they purchase an item at a store, then that gets counted in a separate category from the other sales tax?
>>544018345How is that logical?
>>544017954>ZONwhat did they mean by this?
>>544018181Yes. "Undocumented" means under the table. Theyre paid in cash or through cash apps. They dont pay withholding and they dont file their taxes. Everything they do is cash so all they pay is sales tax. I am certain that employer contributions as a part of salary paid to employees likely exceeds or is very close to that which is paid in taxes (ederal/state/county/municipal) by illegal immigrants.Pinkos do not understand how our system works.
>>544018376>Sales taxes is what they mean when they say illegals pay taxesit's a cheap ass trick and they pay significantly less than citizens who pay all the ridiculous income taxes, BUT they are technically paying sales tax, because they can't NOT pay the sales tax when they buy shit
>>544018307Yeah, that is what they always mean.Although to be fair, technically some of them do pay income taxes but that is only for the ones who have stolen a deceased persons identity, which is also done so they can qualify for benefits. That is also partially why you see dead people voting in elections, which is because it is actually an illegal immigrant with a stolen identity. Granted, this is all the more reason why they need to get the fuck out of our country.>>544018401They understand, they just lie through their teeth every time they speak because they think you are stupid or just don't care.
>>544017954Don't care - they all need to go back. Not voting Marxist-Democrat.
No I just want to live in a 90% white countryGo the fuck back
yes
>>544017954and are those taxes documented, dipshit?
>>544017954
>>544017954>someone breaks into your home and won't leave but you can't kick them out because they leave some money on your kitchen counter every so oftenYeah no, they're eating some buckshot.
>>544018417Okay, that's not my question. I own a business and I pay sales tax. I don't ask customers their citizenship status, then pay the illegal alien taxes into a separate category to the state. So, how in the fuck do they know what percentage of the of sales tax comes from illegals?
>>544017954How do you know what taxes they pay if they are ‘’undocumented’’???
>>544018181I suppose they added all the sales tax collected from shops where buyers paid in cash.Since who else would pay in cash most of the time if not illegals.
>>544018496I prefer a lever gat
>>544018524>all cash transactions are considered to be made by illegal aliens....damn, our country really can't survive without illegal immigration it seems.
>>544018362No, theyre taking average household spending of illegals and multiplying by number of house holds where illegals are the breadwinners and comparing the two numbers. They don't know shit about their spending habits or where their money actually goes. Most of them send huge chunks of their cash back to Mexico etc. and live like paupers in the US. They get themselves a little plot in Mexico and build a house and hire some servants to take care of them when theyre old. Its been going on this way for centuries at this point.
>>544017954if we deport more, they'll pay less in taxeswin win
>>544018505>So, how in the fuck do they know what percentage of the of sales tax comes from illegals?it would have to be an entirely asspulled estimate based on illegal population sizes and average expenditures, even less "accurate" than some opinion pollall I'm saying is the sourcing itself is logical, not the whole "paid more than [x]" thing; though nobody in the top including the literal corporations we were retarded enough to give the rights of living human citizens to pays what they should
>>544018505it's wordplay.corporations don't pay taxes, shareholders do.so 1 cent of sales tax paid by an illegal is more than all of them combined.
>>544017954Makes you feel really bad that you stole away all that brain and labour power from countries that would need it way more doesnt it? chew on this.
why the fuck should I care what other people pay in taxes
>>544018612>the literal corporations we were retarded enough to give the rights of living human citizens tohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhoodcorporations absolutely do pay federal taxes
>>544018574Are there many Americans who pay in cash? Seems inconvenient.Illegals probably have no choice.
>>544017954Let’s see Paul Allen’s calculations.
>>544018662with what money?shareholder dividends, right?
>>544018401The legit dont. Talk to these people sometime and ask them these questions. Most of their ideology is emotionally based. Its why they think conservatives are evil. They dont understand how the sausage is made and why because they get too wrapped up in anecdotes not averages. Even the supposedly smart ones dont really understand how businesses operate or how government and big business operate hand in glove. These retards still think they can regulate their way out of their problems!
>Amazon is currently the largest American corporation by revenue, with over $715 billion in revenue for 2025. Walmart follows closely in second place with more than $713 billion."Amazon" and "Walmart" are treated as living citizens, as corporate entities>>544018697>corporations as entities pay taxes on their profits at a federal corporate tax rate of 21%and the shareholders are individually taxed
>these documents from these undocumented people that work under the table and use aliases says they made more money than you that means you need to just accept us bringing more of them here and having them vote for us
>>544018727>corporations as entities pay taxes on their profits at a federal corporate tax rate of 21%once again, with what money?corporations don't have money, shareholders do.
Corporations should be taxed based on revenue, not profit
>>544018699>Most of their ideology is emotionally basedbecause leftist politics seeks to control because it fears others.that's why we don't subscribe to it, we fear no man.
>>544018401They hope the people they're lying to don't understand it. Basically the only people leftoids ever get to vote for them are the idiots so of course they support things that maintain a certain level of stupidity.
>>544018755think of "Amazon" like Fred Amazon, and Fred Amazon pays a 21% personal federal taxI am not fucking joking, Fred Amazon is a literal immortal US citizen that can not be executed or jailed or even really prosecuted, that has a revenue of $715 billion a yearthis is NOT a metaphor, really, I know that may be hard to fully grasp
>>544017954If illegals are a net benefit, why do the numbers say they cost us billions of dollars every year?
>>544018792no, anon. that money belongs to the shareholders, it is not separate from them.the entity is just a strawman and is irrelevant.
>>544018836>the entity is just a strawman>>544018662>>the literal corporations we were retarded enough to give the rights of living human citizens to>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhoodno, it is a literal conceptual citizen with all the rights of an actual living human citizen, you really aren't getting this
>>544017954What taxes? Sales tax? All the Spics that I know claim exempt on taxes and use other people's SSNs.
it is a fucking jewish golem without a body
>>544017954I call bullshit on that statistic and there's more to there cost than just that. Also how much do they cost the taxpayer in services vs how much they pay in taxes when they actually pay taxes?
>>544017954Misleading because they're comparing completely different kinds of taxes, as illegals don't pay income taxes. obviously a population of 20 million illegals paying sales taxes on everything they buy is going to be more than the income taxes of a handful of corporations. I also have to wonder, did they account for the $150 billion annual remittances that migrants parasitically leech from the US economy every single year to send to foreign countries?
>>544018866Also
>>544017954Taxes are a liability. Paying them is just a sign you're a slave. There is no guarantee of representation upon payment.Thank you for your donation to Israel. Good day.
>>544017954No one gaf. Get them OUT!
>>544018826Thats a litteral lie miggerphile
>>544018262I can pay taxes to america too. There's a special tax number called the itin number
>>544017954everyone pays taxes, not everyone pays NET taxes. There are probably 150million taxpayers in the whole USA.
>>544018505They don't. They're surely just taking the total sales tax in an area and multiplying by what they thing the ratio of illegals is to the total population. They're not actually adjusting for spending habits or anything that would make the statement more accurate. It's just the easiest possible estimate.
>>544018855>All the Spics that I know claim exempt on taxes and use other people's SSNs.They probably have an ITIN number instead of a social security number. It's useful for getting american bank accounts.
>>544017954Of course the batshit crazy low-IQ leftists simply believe whatever they are told they should believe without ever being critical of the information or the source. For the batshit crazy low-IQ leftist, if the information feels good, then it must be true, so no need for verification.Illegal aliens, ie - "undocumented immigrants", acquire taxpayer-funded housing, clothing, food, education, healthcare, transportation, and utilities such as mobile phones with a cellular service account and 5G access, and they generally work off the books. The illegal aliens have no mechanism which applies a tax to them because everything they need is paid for by taxpayers.Also, the net tax on illegal aliens is a negative. They drain the tax reserves. They do not contribute to it.
>>544017954Now that the GOP has made it clear to a new generation that it's that party of crony capitalism and endless was for Israel, dems have a great opportunity to swoop in and convert disaffected under 40 voters by signaling "we're not that. we're not so much run by the epstein class. we're sane and normal".but instead they double down as the party of trans kids and illegal immigration. ok.
>>544017954How would they have statistics on undocumented immigrants if they’re undocumented?
>>544018871The medicaid/medicare alone costs way more than they contribute. Nobody ever talks about how they utterly destroy the education system worse than niggers.
>>544018912The IRS makes it easy for immigrants to get an alternative to a Social security number to pay taxes and get a credit score even if you don't live in America officially. I looked into it
>>544018871Of course not. Plus the sheer weight they have on our declining education, healthcare, and other social systems. They also drive up the cost of housing and rent, increase insurance costs, and suppress wages. You know, the things faggot white liberals are always bitching about on shiddit and bluesky.
>>544018951*endless wars
>>544018853>a literal conceptual citizen with all the rights of an actual living human citizenNo not really.Corporate personhood does not give a company the right to vote in elections, for example.It's a legal vehicle that makes it possible to have certain kinds of legal liability, that's all.Such as the obligation to pay taxes independently from its owners.
>>544018958The IRS makes it easy for immigrants to get an alternative to a Social security number to pay taxes and get a credit score even if you don't live in America officially. I looked into it before.
>>544018853>he thinks the shareholders aren't accountable for their shares with actual payments if corp is finedyou're really not getting what the strawman is for.
>>544018307Illegal aliens acquire taxpayer-funded housing, clothing, food, education, healthcare, transportation, and are given a monthly stipend for general expenses. They pay sales tax with taxpayer revenue. That is a net negative for tax revenue.
>>544018836Yes and no. Shareholders own an interest in the company. They elect people to run the company. The company does things that generate income. Expenses are deducted, and the remainder is profit. That profit is taxed before the company can make any decisions on what to do with it. If you want to say it's philosophically paid by the shareholders because they own the company, fine. But that's not how the legal construction works. As a shareholder, you can't just go in and collect your profit. The only control you have is voting for representatives.Shareholders pay corporate taxes in the same way that individual voters declare war.
>>544017954>LEAVE CORPORATE KIKES ALONE YOU YOU... YOU COMMIES!same shit is happening in France, the 500 richest leeches in the country saw their fortune double or triple while everyone else is getting poorer. Then the right wing shabbo goy parties show up to tell you to obsess about mudslimes and niggers. Well oiled classic trick, that and banke's warfares.
Proofs?
So these fuckers pay taxes to pissrael? WTF now I hate undocumented workers!
>>544018307Wow. Too bad SALES taxes dont go to anything they drain from the federal government, like the billions in welfare, daycare and healthcare.
>>544019034>that's not how the legal construction worksmoney talks, bullshit walks.
>>544018967Every time I go to a medical center or hospital during normal hours, on the east coast, they're inundated with all manner of foreign, non-English browns. It's utterly sickening. Surprise-surprise when I read about how many hospitals are operating in the red, some of them DEEP in the red too.Heads should roll for what has been done to our country.
>>544019061>daycarethe learing center
This is some amazing jewish pilpul, every legal citizen automatically loses 16% of their paycheck to social security before any income tax at all, but they can flip this to be about illegals.They could have just as easily said that the bottom 10% pay more taxes, or something. Could have said poor people, or listen bush's baked beans, or something. They had to find a way to make it anti-white.
>>544019037Death to Ukraine.
>>544018981I don't even really get what an ITIN does, since as an employer you cannot pay taxes on someone with just an ITIN. They must have a SSN to file taxes on them. Is it some sort of contractor 1099 kind of thing?
>>544017954JEWS RAPE KIDS
>>544019097>They had to find a way to make it anti-white.I caught that too. They're getting closer and closer to boldly declaring>See?! Brown immigrants ARE America! They pay more than white Americans. So let's be grateful and let more of them in, you disgusting bigots!It's all just another gaslight shakedown of whites, trying to demoralize whites into thinking they have no rightful claim in the future of their own fucking countries. It's more "nation of immigrants" repackaged in an economic wrapping.
>>544018522It aint any federal tax. So none of it goes to what they steal constantly. Maybe all their state tax payments might make a dent in the court costs of all their rapes, murders, robberies, car accidents, and drug charges, but let me know when Corporations start causing all of that. Then we can call it square.
Yet all those companies contributed 1000x as much to the American economy. Thus proving that taxes aren't the only way corporations and 'muh billionaires' contribute back into the system that spawned them.For instance, Amazon, GM, IBM, and Netlix employed probably a combined 2M American people (if you include Amazon warehouses and delivery).Did illegal immigrants employ millions of Americans? Did they pay health insurance, 401k, social security, and unemployment insurance?How much money went back into the economy. Who cares how much goes back to the government?Leftists are so fucking stupid. They either don't understand these facts, or just pretend not to.
>>544018401>"Undocumented" means under the tableHey now give them some credit sometimes they steal a social security number and rack up tens of thousands in back taxes that shows up on your doorstep years later.
>>544019238It's just another case of retarded leftists comparing two numbers and thinking that shows the whole picture. I thought they all claimed to be smart, but then I remember these are the same people who can't define a woman, think there's a "War" in Iran, think gas is higher now than under Biden, think food cost more now than under Biden, think Trump caused inflation, and think Trump making money off crypto is government corruption on par with Biden shutting down American Energy to help Hunter's board friends at Burisma send him money to a bank account he shared with his dad
suck on this.
>>544019112>since as an employer you cannot pay taxes on someone with just an ITIN.You can pay taxes on someone with just an ITIN. You can open a bank account with an ITIN and get a mortgage with it too.
>>544018181>>544018221>>544018524In the USA there's a special permission for immigrants to pay taxes when they work. So even if they can't get a social security number they get a different number to pay taxes.
>>544017954At the end of the day i will.
>>544017954Source?
>>544017954How about deporting both the immigrants and Jeff Bezos
>>544019648Simple google search shows the vast majority of illegals do not have a tax number also simple search shows the collected tax under those codes is no where near what even legal blacks pay nuch less billion dollar industries
>>544019650If you can endlessly feed sows you would still have sows.
>>544019648>In the USA there's a special permission for immigrants to pay taxes when they workNo, there isn't. If they are here ILLEGALLY, that means that they are criminals and the employer is committing a crime, and the tax man is facilitating the crime. OP is full of shit, don't believe everything you read on the internet
>>544019747If you endlessly feed non sows at some point you would still have some sows.
>>544018073>>544018181
>>544019805>https://www.irs.gov/tin/itin/individual-taxpayer-identification-number-itinTo nobody's surprise, the polchud migger nigger doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
>>544019812Those sows would be completely arbitrary.But if you think that the sows would appear more often at the start, that would be rather arbitrary. That is a sow dependency.So that then wouldnt be completely arbitrary.
>>544019817The guy in the tie isn't murdering and selling fent to children, or raping/beating women to death. The guy on the right isn't stealing billions in tax dollars then using it to send to China who pays democrats to sell out the country to destroy the west. The guy on the right isn't driving a truck without a license and plowing into hundreds of people on the road. The guy on the right isn't filling public schools with a bunch of violent retards, ruining any chance of an education for any Americans. The guy on the right isn't voting for a party to flood the country with people who are bankrupting the country and making the cost of living 10x or more and stealing everyone's job by being paid slave wages. So tell how the guy on the right is ruining his life again. Oh yeah, you think because he's white, he's evil, when it's always been shitskins because they are soulless demons.
>>544017954>being ethnically replaced is good.... because government workers get good kickbacks!woah...never thought about that....damn, I wish everyone was replaced by a mexican, a nigger and a jeet so.... rich people can make more moneywoah
>>544019648>no one knows they're here>get paid under the table in amounts that would be illegal to document>they pay taxes though they get a special number so they can staysend fucking retards like this back with them
>>544019925You cannot run some less stronger algorithm that has similar codependcies.Because then i m goedel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk0xkd8qs9I
>>544017954>they did the thingproof?>pssh>pff>i SAID it happenedso.. you can't prove shit>f-f-f-f-FUCK YOU GOYi like that humanity is typically normal enough that you monkey-faced kikes have to make up lies to out of jealousy and butthurtstay mad
>>544018181Amazon payed 10b over the last two years
>>544019746The real issue is that we are in the era of social media so every single argument and idea must be reduced to 250 characters or less. Not just because it fits in a social media post, but because longer posts get no attention. Thus every single argument and idea is reduced to retarded slogans that leave all nuance out and makes everyone involved more extremist and more divided.Whenever someone claims that X collective pays more taxes than multi-billion dollar companies they're lying in total numbers but not in percentage.If a company makes 40 billion dollars, but spends 38 billion on "investments" (some of which is stock buybacks whose only purpose is to pump up the stock price artificially) they get to pay taxes only on those 2 billions of profit. However when the guy at the assembly line makes 40 thousand a year and must spend 45 thousand just to cover his living expenses (meaning he went into debt), he must still pay taxes on the full 40 thousand.This, too, is an oversimplification; but the point is that average worker ends up paying way more in taxes than the companies they work for because the tax codes overwhelmingly benefit those that already have money and assets at the expense of everyone else.
>>544019925It would be on path
>>544017954No they don't. All of them work illegally and their employees pocket the taxes since they sure as hell ain't reporting it to the IRS. The ones on DACA and other deferment programs that require voluntarily check-ins represent a tiny fraction of all illegals in the US. https://archive.offthepress.com/ice-underreports-non-tracked-illegals-by-18000-percent/And the dirty secret is, even the ones who have a work permit as part of deferment continue to work illegally. They have the one taxable job but leverage that status for the more profitable unreported income opportunities that prefer illegals who have some degree of legal protection. This is why you see a lot of DACA illegals get arrested for dumb shit like drug smuggling and trafficking. It's because they offered big money to be the drug mules and drivers since their status doesn't immediately get them ICE'd (at least before Trump).
>>544018181I've looked into the numbers from progressive think-tanks and leftist news articles before and, no joke, they unironically use the numbers from the official government budget office and multiply it by the biggest number of estimated illegals in the country. So a report will come out in 2019 saying ~15 million illegals paid $30 billion dollars in federal, social security and medicaid taxes, and they'll do simple proportions and extrapolate it to 30-45 million illegals. They get this number from, conveniently, another source, usually another progressive think tank but sometimes a magazine like Vox they deem trustworthy. I've seen one magazine, Slate, just straight up *add* the illegal tax payments with the estimated GDP contribution (which goes back into circulation since it's mostly calculated from wages) and come out with a crazy number like $900 billion every year.They also completely underestimate or, in some cases like Mother Jones, straight up omit the tax burdens they create through remittances, public education cost, and emergency services.And of course, the classic strategy they like to do, above all else, is conflate legal immigrants with illegal immigrants and just tally up everything from both. Some spic woman from Vice did this recently and people complained, and she said something like "no human bean is illegal" on twitter unironically.
>>544020249Yeah in my book it is.Or lets phrase it rather this way "no human being is illegal in whatever shithole it grew up."
>>544020220It's all bullshit. Everything the left says is bullshit.
>>544017954And yet they paid more than under the biden regime
>>544019438>migrants rescuing a dolphin because natives are all fat and lazyBased
>>544021017>rescuingFor consumption
>>544021043>fat retard sees intelligent lifeform>immediately thinks of food
>>544018181it's just completely made up. for this stat, they take immigrant "wages", assume they make a certain number for income, then just declare what the actual tax burden for said income should be. there is zero proof these people actually pay anything. it's a completely fabricated number.
1postretards all of you.
>>544021367you're in good company mate
>>544017954if they are undocumented how the fuck do they know how much in taxes they paid? how the fuck do they even pay taxes in the first place? im so tired of the flagrant lies. Boomers will eat shit like this up, too
>>544020249Very interesting, thank you.
>>544018181>How did they count the taxes if those immigrants were undocumented?They didn't. This is a lie.
>>544018181>>544020249>>544020447>>544021876if you read any gun control study they just flat out make up numbers as well. they don't actually know who owns guns so they use gun suicides "as a proxy" and then say gun ownership causes death because suicides make up like 2/3rds of gun deaths and wow, gun suicides correlate to gun suicides?
>>544018181They don't. This is just sales tax they're referring to and it's just a wild guess at how much they're paying.
>>544019817
>>544019438>>544021017They are definitely eating or raping it. Didn't see any saving.
>>544021017>>544021110Maybe they can stay in the dolphins home instead of ours
>>544017954Assuming you dont include the billions on taxes paid by employees of those companies, of course, for some unexplained fucking reason (and make up numbers for the immigrants, who are 80 to 90% unemployed so why theyd be paying taxes I dont know) and assuming you ignore the billions paid out im welfare to those same parasites. Great argument for white genocide, really convincing retard
>>544017954are they undocumented if pay taxes?
>>544017954how do undocumented immigrants pay taxes?walk me to the process how that works, kekthe only tax they'd pay is VAT
>>544017954It's not inconvenient for me at all. Thanks for the cash, now get on the fucking plane, Ranjeet. What's the problem exactly?
>>544017954And? Now how much taxpayer money did illegals use up in services and welfare and fraud? Let's see the return ratio for illegals, somehow I don't think it was a net gain for the country.
>>544017954Now subtract that by what they take in benefits.
>>544020249Yeah, the problem is they technically pay taxes if>They get a 2000$ government check.>Buy Food, they "Pay" 200$ in taxes.However, they are actually -2200$ overall (If example, the tax is 10%).
>>544022235they dont. the article is boomer rage clickbait and they'll eat it up. I always thought wisdom comes with age, but I guess i was wrong
>>544018073underappreciated post
>>544017954>16 million people paid more tax than 4 companiesWho would have imagined?Wtf does IBM even do anymore, except have a pajeet CEO who crashes their stock?
>>544017954So uhhh, maybe we keep throwing out illegals and tax corpos? Also how would you know how much the illegals paid in tax if they're UNDOCUMENTED?
>>544017954Well, if a random sign said it it must be true. I saw a sign that said we need to kill all jews and jeets and beat niggers into compliance. It said to kill all leftists and troons too. I guess we better get to work ASAP.
