No Surrender
>>544018779Cringe amerimutt thread
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>>544018779I wonder if Ireland still has pure Celtics Aryans on that island. I hope they do. We need National Socialism and Nordicism on that Ireland to isolate them.
>>544019421Celtic*
>>544019421>Ireland>Aryans lmfao
kek, the 70 year old thrice inbred career alcoholics will shuffle down on their zimmers and give you deliverance.
>>544021113The British empire spreading Irish around the globe was as bad as them spreading niggers, probably worse. Did you marry up with an Abo, Seamus?
>>544019421>I wonder if Ireland still has pure Celtics Aryans on that islandThere were none to start with.Celts were a culture NOT a people and the culture died well over a millennia ago.
>>544021657>the culture died well over a millennia ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIrYD7djFH8
>>544021657Are you saying the Irish were always mongrels? How did they get red hair, green/blue eyes, and White skin if not from the Nordid Aryan race colonizing Ireland?
>>544021832> How did they get red hair, green/blue eyes, and White skinIt came from the Russian steppes originally, via the lower parts of Scotland.
>>544021918Who were those original redheaded people? They weren't Celts? Is this the official academic explanation and theory or is this just your fringe theory?
>>544021986>Who were those original redheaded people?I have just explained this.Redheads are also found in Central Europe . . .I think Otzi the Iceman was one.The Celt culture replace earlier cultures such as the Bell-Beaker . . .it's a long story but the Celt thing is just a LARP.
>>544022070Do you believe some or all Irish are non-White mongrels? Which one? What about the Scottish?
>>544022137The Irish were never a great sea faring nation and for a long time they stayed put, hence the excess of red-heads most of them came via Scotland but Scotland has had more exposure to Scandinavia and native Anglo Saxons. The non-white thing is not to be taken literally, you realise that right?
>>544018779Orangeism is Freemasonry.
>>544022243>The non-white thing is not to be taken literally, you realise that right?What do you mean? Also are you a Nordicist? Are you a National Socialist? Do you believe in White supremacist and Nordicist Aryan race theories? Or do you take a more mainstream academic approach?
>>544019431>>544019421nigga by your logic everyone in europe is aryan because celts were everywhere
>>544022478Whites are a minority on the planet but we have done pretty well for ourselves and shape the way the world is today, this is why everyone wants a piece of it but the thing is too many people wanting to join the party just dilutes it and makes it not so good. It kind of reminds me of modern communists, who think Billionaires are bad and they should share their wealth and we would all live like Kings but the reality is, we would all be paupers. Not so sure about Nordicist Aryan race theories but to an extent I can see Nat Soc as a good way for some countries to do well and I think absolute Monarchies can be a winner with this. It's a complicated subject.
>>544022845>I think absolute Monarchies can be a winner with this.im sorry anon, but /pol/ isnt ready about such truths.
>>544018779Thr problem today is shitskins. It isn't north vs. south or protestant vs. catholic or English vs. Irish. That needs to be forgotten before we are all wiped out due to inactivity and gross naivity.
>>544022900>im sorry anon, but /pol/ isnt ready about such truths.It's a tricky one.
>>544022930they will call you a jew not realising that monarchs literally have to care about their countries otherwise they lose their job and their heads. Just ask the last tsar of russia what happens when you let jew advisors run your country
>>544023443I totally agree with you.Monarchs are more committed to their country than a career politician ever can be. OK now and again you may get a bad egg for a monarch but it's someone you can point a finger at. With Democracies, people just swap jobs and blame some body else.
>>544021657Who were all the peoples of Ireland then? Or would you just call them by their original tribal names? If they are even recorded? Do they all have the same origin? Or do different tribes have different origins in Ireland? Who or what were the original peoples of those different tribes that migrated into Ireland? If you know can you please go into detail?
>>544018779Free Palestine
>>544023443>>544023845This is why The Protocols forbids a Kingship
>>544021918>via the lower parts of ScotlandNo, Irish had red hair before the plantation. Many Irish with no planter blood have the MC1R geneAnd if you are talking about a much older migration, that is also false
>>544024571Forget the Plantation, that only happened recently and YES - I am talking of a far older migration than that.
>>544024722What is the evidence of this?
>>544023845true , the only problem is when monarchs starts trusting its advisors , thats when shit flows downhill>>544024052yeah , because there is the chance of getting one that starts pogroming their asses
>>544024784History. Mainland Britain was already occupied via the Doggerland land bridge from Iberia and France following the last Ice-Age. The same groups of people migrated later but took a more Northern route avoiding the tribes in England.
>>544024784The mythohistory is that the Milesians, i.e. the Gaelic population of Ireland and Scotland, were originally Scythians who invaded via the north of Spain. It's the traditional narrative in the mythological cycles but it has about as much credence as the stories that the English were Trojan refugees or the lost tribe of Israel. In reality Irish people got their complexion from Viking and later Norman and Anglo-Saxon admixture.
>>544024945Yeah but you're talking about WHGs at that timeframe. The later migrations which actually make up Irish and British people, who had red hair came from the mainland and diverged there>>544024993That's also bullshit. How is /pol/ so fucking history illiterate on Europe holy shit
>>544024993>English were Trojan refugees or the lost tribe of IsraelNobody believes that tripe but I am nearer the mark than you care to admit.There wasn't even any Norman admixture in England, how you think there was any in Ireland is beyond me. >>544025115You are nearly there but I have already explained it. there was quite a time between the two populations.
>>544025216There isn't any evidence to suggest they came from scotland, or lowland scotland. It is plausible that some did, only briefly staying there or even just passing through but at the time of the beaker expansion into Britain and Ireland from the mainland it would had been from there mainly, simultaneously. The land bridge really is way way off and has nothing to do with any of this. WHGs didn't have MC1R variants for red hair and were replaced anyways from the beaker migrations. You're not making any sense
>>544025451>There isn't any evidence to suggest they came from scotlandI never said this, I said it was the route taken. No doubt there were 'original Britons' that were already in Ireland before this but few and far between.I have already mentioned the Beaker people earlier in my comments regarding original people being 'celts' and how much of it is a LARP. You aren't far off anon but I think you are missing the bigger picture, possibly to keep some other myth alive? I don't know.
>>544025656No you said red hair came into Ireland via "lower parts of Scotland"Which is not true. Or if it is, it would be only partly and not a big contributor. Doggerland has nothing to do with it also, don't know why you brought it upBut yes im not arguing about the term celtic. It is cultural. Celtic culture came into Ireland by cultural influence, not by migration of peoples. However one thing I will disagree with about what you said is that it died out a millennia ago. Not exactly true. It's still around today, but not so much. It has been declining ever since a millennia ago you could say. There are still remnants. And it depends on your definition of celtic culture. If you are basing it on the gauls, then time will erode it naturally. But Insular celts were the surviving branch and they get to define it, and there is a clear continuity up until the present dayA lot of it was lost with British rule gradually. Most of it actually. But certainly not 1000 years ago
>>544018779Ulster Niggers are 'Black and Tan'.
Republic of Ireland should join the UK, but the UK should get rid of the monarchy. Instead of the United Kingdom we could have the United Republic/s. If we were to insist on democracy then federalisation and devolution would be necessary to stop the English population being the only vote that matters across the union though. Incorporate the Isle of Man as a special economic zone and federal capital where a central federal parliament convenes.
>>544026103Sorry for delay - popped to the shops. >you said red hair came into Ireland via "lower parts of Scotland">ViaI said 'via' NOT from! I was also correct about the 'celtic' culture. Any 'celtic culture' in Britain was on the wain after the Romans arrived with Christianity.When the Romans left Britain things went to pot but Christianity was kept alive in Ireland and re-introduced later to mainland Britain. It's good that people keep customs and traditions alive but the 'celtic' thing kind of gets up my nostrils a bit. A bit like these 'Druids' who LARP around in robes not having any real clue as to what they were about. >>544026775I'm not even going to reply to this pile of crud.
>>544027111>I said 'via' NOT from!Well you didn't. But maybe you made a typo>I was also correct about the 'celtic' culture.>Any 'celtic culture' in Britain was on the wain after the Romans arrived with Christianity.Ok but the context was Ireland. It is what you guys were talking about. And Celtic culture wasn't only the old religion. And even then, it survived within Irish Christianity and that's why Rome told England to invade Ireland in the first place>but the 'celtic' thing kind of gets up my nostrils a bit. A bit like these 'Druids' who LARP around in robes not having any real clue as to what they were aboutI think the problem you have with it is that you see the idea of celtic identity in the modern age as a bunch of hippy LARPpagans dancing around stonehenge. That's not what celtic culture actually is. It is language, mythology, family/social and power structures, agricultural practices, traditions and folk beliefs. Even England still has some remnants of the last one. Ireland even today has retained many of this despite it all, though mostly rural and tending to be more westerly. Modernity is just another wave washing it away, but it's still there
>>544021986>Who were those original redheaded people? They weren't Celts? Is this the official academic explanationThe red-haired descent comes from the Nephilim giants, rulers of Britain before the Flood and consequent gravity increase. Pockets survived in what became Ireland and Scotland after the cattastrophe but with mixing with humans they mixedc descendents have only five finger, one row of teeth and are normal sized.There are still a few of the real deal in the Afghan mountains. American soldiers would occasionally tangle with them during their occupation.
>>544024993>about as much credence as the stories that the English were Trojan refugeesThat is true. Fomenko reseached that and found the events described to be medieval and that indeed leading to England being formed - with the first broadly independent king being Henry 8th - the numbering is his and has no bearing in fact. More properly Henry I or Henry II assuming his father was really Henry too and "king" before him.
>>544025216>There wasn't even any Norman admixture in England, how you think there was any in Ireland is beyond me.There is loads of Norman influece in Ireland. At least as much as England. Plus the Norman Conquest isn't real.
>>544026775Future political arrangement cannot be meaningfully discussed while we are under invasion from every darkie worldwide. Clear up that problem, clear up the traitors within who enabled it and we can talk. Certainly the present monarchy has shat the bed and will have to go. Who or what future system we have is hard to tell but certainly any future governing should go no further than the county level.
>>544027724I said in an earlier post that you seem to be skirting around something, in order to keep some agenda alive and I think I have found it.> Rome told England to invade Ireland in the first placeYou are skipping across centuries here and even then you are incorrect, it wasn't an order, it was permission and that was in the 12th century . . . .long after 'celts'.It's apparent to me that you like to think old 'celtish culture' still remains in Ireland but in reality, it's almost non-existent and has been for centuries, albeit a few bits and bobs that can apply to anywhere in the British Isles.I think we are going to have to agree to disagree regarding this. >>544028217Having seen your other posts I am reluctant to engage with you.There is pretty much NO Norman admixture in Ireland, the same applies to England. The Norman invasion of Britain was a replacement of nobility and had no effect on the make-up of Britons or the Irish.
>>544028428>it wasn't an order, it was permission and that was in the 12th centuryThat's just splitting hairs and isn't really a rebuttal of the point I made>long after 'celts'If you are defining "celts" as late bronze age to early Iron age, then I can see how you can come to that idea. But that's a mistake. Again, the continuity was there, the culture was still there, with clear traceability. A lot of Ireland's culture is derived from that celtic culture. I don't know why I am the one with an agenda, it is clearly you. You don't have any actual logic or facts or knowledge about this but stubbornly keep trying to hold onto this narrative and have to strawman what celtic culture even is. Your definition of celtic culture as I suspected is probably tied to the early iron age, which is an error
>>544029164Listen anonI can argue until the cows come home and by the looks of it, so could you. I will always roll my eyes whenever I hear of celts or druids and you will still think otherwise, so we will never agree on this. The ancient Britons is kind of my thing and if I fully disclose, I am far more expert on SW England. That's not to say that I don't understand Ireland or Scotland either.Talking of Scotland, I would by interested to hear your viewpoint of the Myth that 'The Romans couldn't conquer Scotland'?
>>544029927>I will always roll my eyes whenever I hear of celts or druids and you will still think otherwiseWe're not talking about druids. Again, celtic culture isn't just the old religion. Which it persisted long into the ages through Irish christianity even so. You don't seem to be familiar at all with Irish culture>Talking of Scotland, I would by interested to hear your viewpoint of the Myth that 'The Romans couldn't conquer Scotland'?They just didn't see the point. Logistically it didn't make sense for them. They got all they wanted from Scotland and Ireland just trading with them and their empire was already very stretched so they weren't that bothered
