Melenchon wants to unilaterally cancel French's debt.The head of the central bank responds by saying he can't do that, France would be strangled by interest rates.Melenchon accuses him of treason, saying he was calling for sanctions against France.His base is now sharing a bunch of antisemitic memes against the head of the central bank.Even the socialist party and the communist have denounced him, saying he is a threat to democracy. Only Le Pen can save us now.
>>544052840 . ..
Good cop, bad cop.
Remember kids, socialism kills economies. France will be the latest object lesson.
>>544053240> Who will think of the central bankers!Jews?
>>544053240France is like that because of its Amerimutt style secular capitalist "democracy".
>>544052840>>544053240By threatening to default in the future, statements like this could cause the interest rate on French debt to increase now. This might even be Mélenchon‘s objective.
>>544052840Melenchon has zero chance of winning so idk how this matters
>>544053240The Nordic countries are doing well though
>>544052840Cancelling debt is not insane, its incredibly based. Debt is the mechanism the Jews use to enslave us. Of course, you presumably being a rightoid would never go against your Jewish masters and their debt based system.
>>544053663Melenchon loses.Le Pen implements her policiesBecomes very unpopularMelenchon's radical base takes over
>>544053663>Melenchon has zero chance of winningthis is not true. he will still get to the second round of the election against MLP and everything can happen there
>>544053823Money = debt no? So cancelling debt is effectively cancelling money... So you cancel debt, the system collapses and paralyses? Then what? You starve? Thats the plan?
>>544053823iceland made a default a few years ago and it's still one of the richest countries on earth.
>>544053863Le Pen might be secretly based. If she isn't France is pretty much ogre regardless
>>544052840support melenchon to fuck the system, le pen will turn into another trump
>>544052840someone should try it
>>544053988Really? I haven't seen anyone seriously suggesting he'll win
>>544054002>cancelling money>cancelling the jews moneyconfiscate their printers, could have a new batch of non kiked currency out in a week
>>544054002Starvation is always the leftist plan.
>>544054333he won't win, this is not possible electorally.boomers are the biggest voters and there is no way they will vote for himhe will be go to the second round, Le pen will win and there will be a civil war most likely
>Don't cancel the denbts>Print like mad for le current oligarchy crisisPlebs should learn some manners obv.
>>544053715Was Bismarck also Socialist for having a economy with welfare? You know it’s a farce when they’ve gotta point at Nordic Monarchies as examples of their supposed ideology, even when those states contrasts fully to what Marx or even socialist agitators like Melencheon actually want.
>>544053823germoney will foot the bill so it's ok
>>544054404Retards like this Aussie are why leftism always causes starvation. Imagine putting this faggot in charge of a book drive let alone the economy. Clueless lowlifes always trying to run other people's lives.
>>544054182canceling debt used to be a regular part of the ancient world. otherwise -- due to interest -- debt exceeds the amount of money in circulation and can't be paid anyway. we are at that point.
>>544052840debt must be turned into productive investments instead of being canceled. aka if you own debt bonds you have the right of buying manufactured goods or services from the country that emitted the binds for the same amount you payed. In this way debt becomes an order portfolio for a country's industry.
>>544054498>there will be a civil war most likelyHow would this even break down, lefties and nons vs whites? Feels like a meme desu, probably just riots and stuff
>>544054075No woman that kicks her own father out of the party is based.
he should read"The Manifesto for Breaking the Interest Bondage of Money" by Gottfried Feder
>>544053715homogeneous high IQ high trust societies can make even socialism work. In a globohomo multiculti society, everything fails
>>544053823"cancelling debt"
Humans think there's a solution to rhese problems. There isn't one. The fuse is lit. It was lit long ago. These things take so long to play out that the human mind cannot comprehend it, like a tree's growth over the years. These problems exist on a different timescale than any of us. The world is overpopulated. Behold - the result. Death, destruction, and suffering. Here is your pit. Its name is SILENCE
>>544052840>if we refuse to pay debts people wont want to lend us more mone->YOU CANT SAY THAT, THATS TREASONBased retard, lmao.
>>544054583starvation and famine also used to be a regular part of the ancient world
>>544054593commies are already allied to shitskinsthe gov don't want people to know but muslims have a lot of weapons already.and by a lot I mean A LOT. cops don't even enter their ghettos and they hide assault rifles in therethey're just waiting for the signal
>>544054908so you evaluate it on whether it makes sense to do. still waiting for your response to that.
>>544052840Great thread. Let's see who are actually against the jews and who are just spineless faggots talking.
If you can cancel the jooish debt, yiu can send the Africans home too. This is genuine progress.
>>544052840>France would be strangled by interest rates.What is the logic in that? If France defaulted, there'd be zero risk of it defaulting again in the near future.
>>544054949Same here, they store them in the mosques
>>544052840>The head of the central bank responds by saying he can't do that, France would be strangled by interest rates.This is nonsense and completely misstates how nation states spend money.Now just to get this out of the way -- this process is more complicated in France because it has adopted the euro currency. This means France is a currency user, not a currency issuer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODnz8DnhCQBut moving past that complicating factor, were France to issue its own currency it would spend it into existence, not by borrowing money. After all, the government issues the currency. Everyone else only has it because it was spend into existence initially. The only thing a government will accept as payment for the bonds that it issues is its own currency, or bank reserves, so those things have to exist prior to and independent of bond issuance. It can't be any other way.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pex89N9Oqoghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je-1eTl6J0ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0e4afZElBE
>>544053823It seems like it's an idea that could get him killed.
>>544052840>denounced him,him who? the banker or the politician?
>>544052840oh my god
>>544055268Very much so, messing with debt based system is the unforgivable sin.
>>544052840>leftists>economy
>>544055349>him who? the banker or the politicianThe politician, Melenchon.The socialist party and the communist party absolutely hate him.
>>544053663he's gonna be the next president of france
>>544055268to be fair jews put this on themselves by elevating these commies and supporting their movements for so long, knowing ot inevitably leads to this every single time
>>544055880You would like that wouldn't you
>>544052840> His base is now sharing a bunch of antisemitic memes against the head of the central bank.Ummmm based?
>>544054471>>544054572Looks like someone is having a melty about their debts not getting paid back
>>544054058iceland did not defaulted on sovereign bonds, their banks defaulted in the 2008 crisis and they asked daddy state to bail them out, referendum told them to get fucked.Melenchon wants to default on sovereign bonds; likely he won't be able to do it because of muh EU, then the courts will rule they cannot do it. If Melenchon ignores the court ruling at that point, the division of powers ends, and so democracy ends in France. Seats are up for taking with brutal force at that point
>>544053823>have no money>want nice things right away>go to rich people who have money >"Hey if you give us your money now you can have more money over time.">they take this deal>now they want their money>"fuck these greedy assholes where do they get off?"I hate communists so much.
Based I hope he leaves the EU, kicks all the kike rats out and then someone actually racist can overthrow him and deport every shitskin
You can't see him as a president, he's a popular leader.
>>544052997Funny, the older he gets, the more does he look like the aging David Miscavige.
>>544052840>he will be procecutedyeah, sure thing, faggot! I just completely forgot about QUALIFIED IMMUNITY, JUDICIAL IMMUNITY, POLITICAL IMMUNITY, DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY
>>544052840France is a dumpster firelet it burn itself outwe have our own problems
>>544052840F
>>544052840>lefties are being based>rightoids are crying "muh central banks", "muh internationalist cliques!", "muh jews!"wow, would you look at that
>>544056726That is not how loans work in the modern era. These days loans are created from nothing, basically counterfeiting.
>>544053240Reminder epstein called russia and china socialist countriesReminder they both have risen to superpower status and that rentier globohomo is decaying rapidly
>>544052840GUILLOTINES NOW
>>544053619Melenchon openly supports the Great Replacement.
>>544053715They're not Socialist though?
>>544052840they need to cancel all US debt. the jews would L I T E R A L L Y melt here in the US. I mean physically melt, maybe even skip it into sublimation
>>544055087A massive social safety net combined with limitless worthless brown immigration who are all on that safety net seems like an easy way to reach a default, especially if no one is willing to lend you any money since you already said you will never pay it back.
Are the french writing off Macron aka 'l'empereur'??
>>544057372The far right went too deep into retardland for anyone to follow and lost the based.Real retards, fleshbots and real bots they've acquired, they even try to meme and all but the power spirited humor ever favors the rebel.
>>544058195>rebelHow is being leftist more rebellious than being nazi in France? The latter is literally illegal
>>544053988dunno, the current student indoctrinated terror isn't going so well for him, far right is spiking in popularity right now. Bardella antisemitic tweets from this teenagehood might even help considering the state of Israel right now
>>544058302Real question is how can you misconstrue being fiscally irresponsible as being rebellious?
>>544057990Waiting to see if he tries to pull a Putin or not. Putin's remained in power for 26 years because he went prime minister after his term was up, then got himself reelected back and changed the rule so he could get reelected for life.
@Grok is Melenchon a Jew?
>>544054949No offense but i hope this happens to your country as soon as possible, everywhere else needs to wake the fuck up and only having one of the main western county falling may trigger a fucking response against zog.
>>544058443
>>544058421>Putin's remained in power for 26 years because he went prime minister after his term was up, then got himself reelected back and changed the rule so he could get reelected for life.Well no, that's not exactly he did. He was still president last time when he did and just passed two amendments (first time he did become prime minister in order to pass it, last time his government quit, amendment passed, then were all reinstated) that he, himself, personally had his term limit reset twice. By law he can't remain President beyond 2036, but if he's in a position to he can just amend it again before then.
>>544055087if france's finances were unsustainable that it needed to default, why assume those same finances would suddenly become sustainable afterwards and that's after demonstrating to creditors willingness to default
I was just listening to NPR and they have strange new respect for Le Pen. Some squirrelly jew said Melenchon can't cancel the debt because it would mean instability for the European markets.
>>544058302The left isn't rebellious, another informed political take from the leaf.Ignoring the fact the left is literally rebelling again right now in the streets, think about the police, would you say they're more right wing or left wing? Are the dots connecting in your vegetal brains?It's just not 2016 anymore.
>>544058766Not to mention how the fuck would the rest of the EU view it? I doubt Germany will be happy losing billions if not trillions of Euros.
>>544058839>the fact the left is literally rebelling again right now in the streets,The left are a bunch of niggers and Muslims? Or are you pretending they're rioting for political reasons?
>>544058839The left aren't arrested for being leftist whereas nazis are. Cops also crack down harder on right wing street activity If you want to grovel for the approval of niggers who hate you then go ahead though.
>>544058944Don't cha know it's just a bunch of rowdy teenagers havering a spiritually firey pow wow in the streets.
>>544059077I was told they wuz good kidz who just need mo' money for dem school programmes.
>>544058944There's some political stuff happening yeah. When rioters speak publicly on social media and on the news about political claims and the parliament, senate, president, candidates reply politically and organize a political response. It means it's about politics.
>>544059184>There's some political stuff happening yeah.Bullshit, they're torching the institutions they pretend they love and claim only needs more money.
You cannot have a society where everyone is chasing money all the time and a society where some people have the ability to conjure money out of thin air.These ideas contradict. The former idea is the basis of legalized morality, the former removes that basis.
>>544059264What could be more political than the question of who gets the fund to do what?
>>544059434No you retard. It's incompatible to claim it's for educational reform while torching all educational facilities. They're rioting because they're niggers and you can't magic them into a high paying job because they have the intelligence of niggers.
I knew you guys didn't understand how a government works but i'm learning you don't even know what politics are.You truly are deeply /pol/ - Politically Incorrect
>>544059264It's the same with our rioters here, there are a few political actors but most are just slimy browns and wanna be browns who see that things are on fire and decide to join in the "fun" and loot shit. The political ones know that they can manipulate these brown niggers to terrify their opponents, which is part of the reason they start these riots in the first place.
>>544053715They have large oil based sovereign funds.
>>544059434Gee idk maybe the CREATION of funds? Fucking commies
holy based. how can the jews respond if you just tell them you're not gonna be debtslaves for them hahahaha we're just gonna owe you NOTHING because you magic all our money out of NOWHERE to begin with!
>>544059558>I knew you guys didn't understand how a government worksOk, walk me through how burning the facility you want more funding for works?
>>544054949>>544055162Nature abhors a vacuumLike ur Mums on a Friday night BAZINGANot like here in America we'll shoot the Muslims as long as they wear deer outfits and the state will sell us a license for $500.
>>544059558No he's right, France is controlled by violent migrant gangs. Don't believe your lying eyes, only English speakers on the internet know what's really happening in this country.Only Hamas and Antifa protest, white people obey the state at all times.
>>544052840French have nukes. What are you going to do about it?
>>544056660local courts or EU courts? this would be a major breach of soverignty if he couldn't, if local courts then that would be treasonous if they are going agaisnt the country for the sake of the EU
kind of want Melenchon to win just because i enjoy chaos and want to watch france and the EU implode
>>544052840Either jew families fighting different jew families or a public show that will amount to nothing.
>>544052840>Only Le Pen can save us now.What about the other guy? Eduarde Phillipe? What's his deal?
>>544058996Right wing groups protest in France and in Germany a lot, in Italy and in America too but they keep it calm without rebelling so they don't get crackdowned on as much. The news complains and rightwingers megaphone those complaints but it's not illegal in democratic countries. That said rebellion is not their tactic. The rightwinger hides in the shadow like a dirty fucking jew. Nobody more jewish than a neonazi. No need to look for the behavior, it's all over this board and in this very thread, all the argumentative slime, a never ending farandol of fallacies and tomorrow all is forgotten, jewish trick central, I gradually began to hate Rightwing militants.
>>544052840>debt endedBased.>>544054653Giga based.>>544055058Exactly.A nation has no sovereignty if it doesn’t control its money. It cannot do this in a banker capitalist system scalping money, aka your labor, for no productive value.
>>544060472>The rightwinger hides in the shadow like a dirty fucking jew.The only 'rightwing Nazi' protests you had were the farmers yellow vest protest. The fuck do you mean that the protests about new taxes on fuel were perfidious and jew like?
>>544053614Ultimate retard take, their country is x4 older than ours and they have been practicing democracy for longer. Eat shit faggot rat nigger
>>544053388Why do you want to borrow money from jews to pay for niggers? You can't be this stupid
>>544053614Oh a tranny that wants to borrow money to pay for niggers.
>>544060655>and they have been practicing democracy for longer.The French? No.
>>544060472Why are French people like this? No other whites worship blacks and arabs this much
>>544052840>Only Le PenWe unironically need the fucking IMF to take over, put every politician against the wall and occupy the country for two decades with an austerity policy so hardcore it'd cause at least seven Hitlers if we still had elections. The next president needs to make Milei look like a communist.
>>544060725Shitanadians are known for their fecaloid love but I am sure its mainly the French ones
>>544054002money != currency, good luck "cancelling" gold and silver.
>>544052840I kinda want them to do it just to see what actually happens.
>>544060817EU has financial doomsday and has to beg for foreign intervention (you) in their monetary markets, then proceeds to continue acting like fags.
>>544055909This. When the jews unleashed marxism upon western Europe, they had no idea it would turn around and devour them a century later. ACCELERATE
>>544060732>we need austerity>just eat rice and beans and pay that credit card downLMAO are you brain dead? The debt is made of the expectation of your people’s labor. It’s literally slavery. It’s like laboring a thousand years for a people that put you in chains to gain something you already had. France was free before it indebted itself to bankers and could be free tomorrow if it gave them the finger.
>>544056726Well they've tripled their money intnhe last 7 years. How much is enough for these people?
>>544055909The golem always goes crazy attacking its master at the end of the story, yet kikes never learn from their mistakes.
>>544052840Judasim Declares War on France!
>>544061004>and could be free tomorrow if it gave them the finger.No, they will still have the useless mouths to feed un France. Which is why they're in this position to begin with.
>>544056726That’s not how it works.>need payment for labor so you can exchange it for a product>paper printed out of thin air without limit to a nations productive ability or its peoples labor>20% tip promised to me 5000 years ago>ok go buy from this corporation I own in a third world country that took your jobThat’s modern monetary policy now. The west got fleeced.
>>544060889No one knows what will actually happen but they should just do it for curiosity's sake. Unfortunately he's probably just saying all of this just to get germany to pay up.
>>544061114>20% tipWhere the fick do government bonds ever yield 20%? Uganda?
>>544053823We defaulted on our debt once... it resulted in France conquering us.
>>544061074Brown people have nothing to do with this. This problem existed in Europe since England needed to finance a war with France and had been going on elsewhere for even longer.Money is labor. If you need to exchange your labor for someone else’s labor or product you need a mechanism for that. Some dude printing off unlimited labor in the form of paper and charging interest on that isn’t a sound policy.No one wants interest. You don’t need interest. Germany proved that prior to ww2 as did Islamic cultures for generations.
>>544061200You did it more than once, you defaulted in the 80's and had to get the IMF in.
>>544055484>1337 eurosElite proposal
>>544053823You can only do this if you can break even on your finances as a country from that point on, which clarly these mfs can't do otherwise there wouldnt be any debt to cancel.
>>544061240>Brown people have nothing to do with thisThey and pensioners do. They are the cause for France's debt, not rebuilding France as you covered that cost in it's entirety.
>>544052840Sounds based. If France's debt situation is anything like the US's, the primary creditors are France's own citizens and kike bankers. I'd be okay with losing out on money that I would never have received in the first place, if it means kikes lose all their investments in my country.
>>544061356>If France's debt situation is anything like the US's, the primary creditors are France's own citizens and kike bankersMostly it's other Eurozone countries (58ish%)
>>544052840https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQANEiR44m0Only God can save France.
>>544056660>democracy ends in FranceAbsolutely the best possible outcome. Democracy is a failed jewish system.
>>544061427The countries themselves or their central banks? That is a very important distinction.
>>544061303In the Jewish debt based system all money is borrowed into existence. Simply having money requires one to take on debt. So being able to "break even" would not free you from debt. Debt is a core part of the monetary system.
>>544061305You’re not even awake right now. What it’s spent on, though an issue, has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. The key problem is that a non national entity is issuing currency and profiting off that system through usury. America and France do not have control of their monetary supply. They are enslaved to those that do. Intentionally, I might add.
>>544061518Anon, they're in the EU. They don't have their own central banks capable of printing currency (exception of Poland). They have to ask the ECB pwetty pwease.
>>544054002Interest rates aka usury is why the world is in debt.
>>544061576>has nothing to do with what we’re discussing.Nigger they're in debt to pay for boomers retiremwnts and nighers and muslims to populate France. That's literally their largest government expenditure and why they're in debt.
>>544054572Jewish money isn't real and doesn't need to be paid back.
>>544061664>Nigger they're in debt to pay for boomers retirements and niggers and muslims to populate France.
>>544052840>His base is now sharing a bunch of antisemitic memes against the head of the central bank.can you post some?
>>544055162Same here as well. Muslims and jeets use religious buildings to hide weapons. Jeets use it to hide drugs as well
>>544061576I mean they're both real problems.
>>544061596>debt is why the worlds in debtYes exactly but it’s insane people are so retarded they are ignorant to this fact.>>544061664>their expenditure Stop and listen. It does not matter. The money is fake. They make it up, force a nation to use it, rob the populace of their labor by forcing them to use it as a labor exchange, then sit back and profit off it in the form of usury.
>>544061730>Stop and listen. It does not matterNo you retard, of course it mstters. If you default on debt while maintaining expenditures you are immediately insolvent again.
>>544061803You cannot default on a currency you control because you’re the sole issuer. On a national level you’d only issue currency that represents the labor and productivity of your nation. Deflation, not indebtedness (how the fuck would there be debt if you’re issuing your own shit) is the primary concern which is why economists are pro inflation.You go from infinity money to a near zsro sum game. What you’re claiming only exists in a debt economy. I’m saying that’s bad and removed national sovereignty.
>>544061929>You cannot default on a currency you controlThis is France you mouthbreathing retard... They use the Euro, they haven't had a national currency in 2002.
>>544061803My argument is correct btw because the debt economy exists precisely because European powers on the gold standard couldn’t print because they had to be able to back in up with an actual product (gold) or there wasn’t enough money to go around.It’s a historical fact not a theory.Germany did a no gold product/labor currency but it required national level barter.It’s not my opinion it’s fact.
>>544062011>they haven't had a national currency since 2002
>>544061004Do you think the international banking class would just let them leave?
>>544062011You’re baiting.
>>544052840>His base is now sharing a bunch of antisemitic memes against the head of the central bank.
>>544062032Again, France doesn't control the Euro.
>>544062054How the fuck is the fact they don't control their currency bait?
>>544062049Not without getting Russia/Libya/Iran/Norked.They have a pretty big army and nukes. I think they could rugpull but it’s set them back 30 years in terms of living standards. Wild ass guess of course.
>>544062074Yeah I’ve been saying that no nation controls their currency since my first post you moron.
>>544053663Idk he sounds kinda cool to me here
>>544052840France 110? Sacre bleu!
>>544062138>You cannot default on a currency you control because you’re the sole issuerSo this means what you retard?
>>544061589>capable of printing moneyCompletely irrelevant. My point is also mostly moot because apparently only Italy, Belgium, and Greece have privately owned central banks.
>>544062210>My point is also mostly moot because apparently only Italy, Belgium, and Greece have privately owned central banks.Precisely my point about France.
>>544052840EU anons,If France defaults on debt will they be able to pay all the illegals food/housing/welfare?If not, they're coming your way.
>>544052840so the n-th reich saga to be continued in france this time?
>>544060655Are you retarded? They went from a kingdom to an empire ultimately into a republic. They have less experience being a democracy than us.
>>544053823I declare a jubilo
>>544062049If France defaults a dozen more will follow them in doing so as well. It would be another worldwide french revolution.
>>544061572Which is why countries should only ever have "money" in that they have collected taxes which then get distributed to various programs in-country and to pay government employees. Any international bargaining done by the state should be done in assets such as metals and natural resources. These assets would then be the backing for the internal economy.
>>544062198France should abandon the euro, issue its own currency based on gold, labor, productivity, ban usury, the state is the only lender of currency.Basically kick the euro house of cards down and hope not to get nuked as they regain their nations sovereignty over their country and labor.A better question to ask is why should multiple generations of Frenchman enslave themselves to pay back egregious usury payments of people long since dead so bankers can continue the scam for their next group of Frenchman to come along?Why is the supposed right wing so afraid of controlling their own nations monetary supply?
>>544062163Yeah super based
>>544054555lol good luck with that
>>544062465>France should abandon the euroThen they're in a catastrophic depression due to existing in a trade cartel they helped create.
>>544052840BASED
>>544062550>your idea to destroy the debt based economy doesn’t work because the debt based economy would be destroyed lol the alternative is to be a slave. People in Weimar Germany at least had enough brain cells to realize this. Hence the happening.Never said line would go up. At the end of the day though France would control its labor.
>>544054002Shut the fuck up kike
>>544054471The reason everything costs that much is because the dollar is worthless you direction brained homosexual gaywad.
>>544053240oh no not the heckin economy?!how are we gonna pay for our own systematic impoverishment, rape and murder without the heckin economy
>>544052840Based France. Vichy France will rise again! >>544053823Paying back money you owe to anyone other than friends family and the church means youre not a Christian. Real people on the right reject the Jewish debt slavery too. It destroys capitalism, it destroys socialism, and the root is always the same (Jews).
>>544062666>lol the alternative is to be a slaveAgain, unless they're planning on austerity they will immediately end up in the same situation. Over 30% of their yearly GDP goes to paying for welfare of some variety, that's not 30% of government revenue, that's 30% of economic activity and that's interest on their government debt either. Passing out chuck-e-cheese coins won't resolve that.
>>544056660Democracy is fucking gay and has killed hundreds of millions of people as evidenced by the last 100 years. Jews shouldn't be allowed to vote or sway voters with their media and propaganda apparatus. This is why every civilization has specifically kept them away from power. The second they gave that power to them jews got butthurt and destroyed the host. >>544058195The based right has become a silent majority since the jews spread the woke right meme and tried to coopt all right wing thought into just being jews good, jews committing genocide good/indifferent.
>>544062841>and that's not covering the interest on their government debt either.
>>544059715You're on thin ice, goyim.
>>544062424That money would also be created through taking loans. No government is allowed to issue its own debt free currency.
>>544062841>spending 30% of what you make is bad because I don’t like what you’re doing with it>spending 100% of what you make + 20% interest is good because it maintains the debt based monetary policy and makes the line go up relative to other debt based economies We heard you. We’re still talking about entirely different things.
>https://youtu.be/E23-NesjpJM>lol
>>544053715>highest rate of billionaires per capita (excluding tax havens)>socialism?
>>544054719nope look at north korea.
>>544059651no that's norway.
>>544063017>We’re still talking about entirely different things.No we're not, you're just refusing to acknowledge it as it's one of two reasons France is fucked if they default.
>>544061690If it is not physical and it can be copied, it is not money, it is not capital, it is debt,metal= moneypaper= debtpeople to this say have problems telling how things that you can copy forever hold less value
>>544052840Good. Fuck debt, they should just write it off.
>>544061803>>544061929you can exchange the product you produce to a foreign currency and than ask them to buy their own currency from you for your national onethis will generate your own currency that relies only on exportthe people can still feed themselves via bread and milk for a year to accumulate a large enough bank to restart the entire economy of a debt free country by not allowing loans and redistributing mandatory apartments/houses to individuals above age 15the limit is you own only 1 house or apartment and you cannot buy or rent more but can request relocationgame over jewsif people spend their currency only inside their own country while getting accumulating minimum wage raises due to exports you have achieved a completely new utopiaobviously communism is not the end goal here but in order to redistribute private property capitalism will die and a brand new government will emerge from a hybrid development policiesthe real problem are the citizens who are criminals and betrayersclosed borders and a veto of every single individual can be done but it will take at least a few years to expel established hidden jews and infiltratorsthe second problem will be imports of chemicals metals and extra shit that citizens will inevitably need so that they themselves can level up this utopiaHence the biggest fucking issue is other countries recognizing and printing your own fucking national currency approving it for tradeonce that hurdle is passed and thats a big IFthan your government will actually function as intended via importing only things requested by citizens via their own paychecks without random fucking taxationthe only perks working as government in regards to pay will be the ability to be in charge of tourism profits that will allow you inevitably to buy more stuff and potentially having free access to resortsgranted the initial job market will be exclusively controlled by the governmentobviously this is a pipe dream but it is possible
>>544052840stop it with the antisemitic remarks
>>544063180>from you for your national oneWhich is worthless, and why Weimar failed.
>>544052840>jews pretend to be white to call for white extinction>white people say they want a jubilee in responsekek
>>544063294lol no historylet. Weimar got raped because it was forced to pay foreign interests via its gold reserves. Weimar was a completely separate issue but it’s funny because they literally fixed it using the usury free policies described and became an economic powerhouse in literally 5 years.
>>544053823based>>544054002KIKE
>>544052840Do any of you know how much damage these twitter screencaps with black background and white text are for your eyes? Especially on pol which has the default white background.Every time someone posts an image like that, they are injuring everyone's eyes who sees it regardless of them being aware or not.
>>544052840This is the Soviet 'scissor strategy' playing out in real time. Russia and China are winning, but they can only get so far with pure subversion. There ultimately needs to be a war, and this is where white people will win. There is a reason the movie '300' resonated so much with western audiences.Quality beats quantity every time.
>>544054583The migger thinks debt jubilees are gommunism.
>>544052840Not again
>>544052840Cancel the debts, why not? The only people hurt are kike bankers and the ownership class
>>544063436>Weimar got raped because it was forced to pay foreign interestsThey literally refused to pay you fucking historylet. It's why France occupied the Rhine.
>>544063294the idea is to have currency not to be in debt to the currencythe government doesn't need to spend its money realistically it needs to redistribute it to the entire population via payments or use it for importsnot to offshore it for a fucking property in other countries and fly off when someone wants to kill them for fucking their kid on an island
>>544061803>Oh no they didn't pay us back!>So print more>But muh interest rates!>Lower them on a made up reasonThe world is fake and gay. Stop taking it so seriously.
>>544052840le Pen a jewish puppet? She's not changing the status quo. Going after central banks does.
>>544052840Well that explains their bond fuckery the last few days
>>544063496300 was designed to recruit proto-miggers for a John McCain-led war against Iran.
>>544052840>Cancels debtHoly fucking based. Kikes will seethe.
>>544054572Seethe kike
>>544058493I mean, it would be a good thing for the French too. Each day there's more armed nafris and less french people, and gun laws always tend to get more cucked each year.
>consoom on debt>don't payLiterally nigger behaviourNo wonder France is full of niggers now and this guy represents a nigger mentality
>>544063713They will never do that because the entire system is debt. Your bank account is the debt that the bank owes you. The money you deposit has long since gone towards servicing the banks' other debts. If all debt was cancelled every bank depositor lose their deposit.People need to understand that the financial system was made complex on purpose for the sole purpose of mystifying the masses.
>>544063552No they didn’t. They physically couldn’t because they didn’t have the gold reserves to do so and maintain their currency. Hence inflation.How’s Tel Aviv?>>544063577Exactly. Everything is fake including people defending debt slavery. I don’t take them seriously.
300 was cool but yes depicting the Persians as ugly monstrosities was absolutely jewish seethe. jews were fucking their goats and eating their sons' foreskins in a backwater shithole while Persia was the mightiest empire in the world.
>>544063545France has been living on debt for years.If they cancel all debt, then they can't pay for shit without borrowing.So they have to fire a lot of school teachers, firemen, etc. Or cut pensions.Ask this guy what his opinion is on cutting boomers' pensions or funds for niggers in Africa? He's say noper, we must cut the whole military budget first.
>>544052840France can't collapse soon enough.The EU will never bail them out, it would take more than what they had to do with Greece.
>>544063823Make shoe boxes under the bed great again
>>544063707adulthood is realizing thar american foreign policy is based
>>544064031Greece had over 200% of GDP debt at some point.France is around 100% and has much lower bond yields (5%).Greece reached about 30% in bond yields during the debt crisis. They were effectively about to go into payment default.
>>544053823Is that even possible in countries that are part of the EU?
>>544063775>consoom on debtThe system offers no alternative, retard.
>>544053240They won't learn from it either.
>>544064301Does it matter when you compare Greece and France's GDP?Today Greece's GDP is $500 billion and France's is $4 trillion. I'm sure it was a lot different almost two decades ago.
>>544064335Only in your country that's true.In normal countries you can run a balanced budget if there's political will to do so.But as long as borrowing is possible, politicians will always look to spend more than the country gets in taxes so they can bribe their voters for votes.
>>544064335Over half of France’s budget is spent on welfare.
>>544061240why would someone lend you money when there is no incentiveif fiat, inflation from money printerif gold, inflation from gold minesyou're just going to park your money with someone else for 10 years and get back less than you lent?
>>544052997>Do I Look Happy?Yes you do Mr. Macaroni. Yes You Do!
>>544053663wtf is a Melenchon. Sounds like a fucking Pokémon name.
>>544064330"Cancelling debt" is a phrase for simple-minded normies.In reality, what this leftie is asking for is for the ECB to buy French bonds and thus keep yields low artificially, so that France doesn't have to pay any price for being over-indebted.So then France could sort of renegotiate or pay debt at a diminished rate, or just rollover at a lower cost, so basically it refuses to deal with the problem, just to kick the can further more in the future.
The first thing Napolean did after the French revolution was install the Bank of France (modelled after the Bank of England). France is a NWO/Rothschild project. Nothing has changed.
>>544063859>They physically couldn’t because they didn’t have the gold reserves to do soNo, they didn't even need to pay in gold. They were allowed to in coal and wood, ypu actually don't know history or what caused the inflationary spiral in Weimar (domestic debt to indsutrt from WW1 and a retard who didn't believe in monetary supply driven inflation).