Prison abolitionist movement actually would make sense if they instead believed in mob justice and lynching the murderers and rapists etc. But they don't, making them the single most idiotic ideological group of all time
>>544077294yes, execution or exile were the main punishments most of the time up until fairly recently. or eye for an eye shit
>>544077294>psychiatric hospitals in the U.S. peaked in the mid-20th century, housing over 500,000 patients in 1955, before deinstitutionalization reduced this number to approximately 37,000 today>mental health act that started the entire process: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act>This legislation was passed as part of John F. Kennedy's New Frontier.>understood as The Penrose lawhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transinstitutionalisation>Research in England (1960–2019) found that a 93% reduction in NHS psychiatric beds was associated with a 208% increase in the prison populationYou first catch and institutionalize the mentally ill trannies and niggers instead of giving them (((social justice)))
>>544077294>murderers and rapists>etc.But what do you include in "etc."? There are a ton of crimes which are punishable by imprisonment that most would consider not nearly so evil as rape and murder.
>in a world without jews, jeets, and other parasites...
>>544077294>In a world without prisons I would be getting raped in all holes all the time here's my tits btw
>>544077294I'm pro prison reform, but not in the way most liberal fags are.We definitely need to distinguish between different types of crime. White collar criminals can go to the Nordic model apartments where they're given faggy programs and reintegrated into society, hell, we can even give some normal prisoners some evaluations to see if they're capable of entering those prisons.But for violent nigger crimes, we don't need more compassion and kindness, we need less. They need to be put into highly controlled environments with no real human freedoms, a la the Asian style or what they do in El Salvador. Instead of just letting them wander around getting tattoos and committing gang violence, they need to be kept firmly fucking contained constantly, and it needs to be completely constant and draconian. They're given way too much luxury and freedom of movement as it is. Violent criminals need to be trained like animals under harsh conditions, or else prison just becomes criminal university for niggers.
Most of our prisoners are there for drugs and drunk driving, so....
>>544077895>White collar criminals can go to the Nordic model apartmentsNah. I want those guys picking up trash and digging ditches until they want to suicide
>>544077294>there would be money for gibs n sheeitYeah, in Tyrone's pocket; and stolen from me.
>>544077895I appreciate that imprisonment is worse than freedom, but is there not a concern that the more luxurious a prison is, the more willing people will be to risk it, and the less likely they'll be to regret their crimes?
>>544077895you want to make it easy for corrupt politicians or giant corporations poisoning or scamming people
>>544077999Valid>>544078058Prison as a deterrent doesn't work, its never worked, and it continues not to work. I understand the logic, but it's been proven wrong in real circumstances over and over again over a fucking long period of time.>>544078130They already get away with shit. Corrupt politicians and corporate execs already don't get in trouble in the first place. Honestly, how many politicians do you think wind up in prison? You're talking about like 3 dudes. I think more politicians should go to prison, and I'm even comfortable with them going to the maximum security shitty prisons explicitly as a punishment for violating public trust. But tax evasion or mild drug crimes etc should not require people to get assraped by niggers in supermax.
>>544077895>steal billions indirectly resulting in the deaths of thousands and harming millions >here, have a comfy cell, minimum sentence and reintegration so you can continue to do as you please Great plan.
>>544078635>Prison as a deterrent doesn't workI feel like you're being dishonest, or at least contradictory.>Violent criminals need to be trained like animals under harsh conditionsWhat is the point of this if not to deter criminals from reoffending?
>>544077999One thing communism got right was gulags, and we should send every last person in DC to gulags in Alaska.
the primary goal of a prison is to keep the person locked away from society to stop them from commiting more crime during their sentencepunishment or rehabilitation are secondary
>>544077646whats so wrong about rape? >"oh noes i had sex at and inopportune time" will the simpery ever cease?
>>544078823The THREAT of prison does literally nothing. A cursory google search about the subject shows that. You think some gangbanging nigger is going to consider the consequences of robbing a liquor store? Prisons are already fucking horrible. Nobody cares.What happens IN the prison can have a massive effect though.
>>544079093I was asking OP who presumably believes like most that rape is quite evil and not you who apparently doesn't. But to answer your question, I suspect that you'd be very upset if I raped you. If not then you're just unusual and maybe incapable of understanding the concept of consent but anomalies such as you don't matter much.
>>544077294Here's my prison reform:Murder methheads, homeless schizo yellers, murderers, petty nigger criminals, dumb spic gangbangers, and allow me to just carry a gun and shoot whoever is a shade of any of these that doesn't fall completely into a category, or just whoever I don't like. Not a joke, a serious proposal.
>>544079142people literally go visit other countries to do things that are illegal in their own country even if the risk of enforcement is lowyes banning crime doesn't fully stop crime but it does reduce it and you can't point to someone commiting the crime as a proof
>>544079203i wouldnt be upset because im a faggot who wants to be used. possibly the faggiest reply of all time. explain in detail why rape is bad or youre just moralfagging.
>>544079142So you're saying that if you hear about horrible things happening to someone who committed some crime, then that has literally no effect on your decision to commit a similar crime?You won't even consider the risk no matter how severe the consequences? And if the consequences are relatively tame, then that also has no effect whatsoever on your decision?
>>544077294Yeah, I agree 100%. I want to abolish prisons and use the money to fund jobs and education and healthcare and housing, but . . . we have to switch from mass incarceration to mass execution. And I don't think the executions should be expensive, a big rock would do the trick. Like that one ISIS video. I feel like maybe we should just make all the prison abolitionists just stay in prison for like three months and then we can say, "See?" and they would be like, "Yeah, I get it now. The world is full of thousands of people who just need to have their skull caved in. I didn't realize how bad was."But I also think some of them will never get it and we just need to smash their heads in too. Like, "You're not guilty of any crime, but we sentence you to die anyway. If there is a God, please tell Him to stop sending us all this worthless trash. Tell Him, 'from now on, only geniuses and honest, hard workers and nice and helpful people. If you send us any trash, we're just gonna send it right back.'" If I was Emperor, that's what it would be.
>>544077294Joi? I used to love those vids
>>544079212what the founding fathers intended
Make the third human centipede film come true.
>>544079345Yes, I am saying that, because like I keep telling you, it's a fucking verifiable fact.Criminals are already retards. They literally take pride in going to prison because it gives them street cred. You're being naive, and, again, this isn't hypothetical. It's literally been researched and proven.
>>544079742REALLY?So if the punishment for jaywalking were death, and this was strongly enforced, then that wouldn't even slightly impact your decision to jaywalk or not?NOBODY would EVER consider that committing some crime might not be worth the risk of punishment? Not EVER?Is that what you're saying?
>>544079933the guy can't imagine getting a parking ticket
>>544077986Kill them too
Europeans are against killing people simply for committing a crime. HIstorically they would exile them, which is the ancient equivalent of prisons since they are exiled from the public view. But reminder that exile back then almost always meant brutal death in the harsh winter. It was effectively a death sentence. The modern prison system is kind of retarded. Those people should just die, all of them. Not so many people will commit crimes in that case.
>>544077646>But what do you include in "etc."?in an anarchy without law enforcement you can just commit crimes and no one can stop you. just kidnap and imprison the person who wronged you yourself
>>544080954Historically western Europeans would tie up homosexuals and drown them in bogs.
>>544077373That or corporal punishment, pillories, fines. All potentially very low cost to the tax payer.
>>544079933The punishment for jaywalking should just be getting hit by cars, the point is to minimize taxpayer expense for the judicial system
>>544077294in a worl without prisons you would get murderedliberls should make some town and set up their laws and i would even empty some prison into this town.. put a giant wall around and they can enjoy their paradise
>>544077373This, but also was a shame for all the family
>>544082854The scold's bridal was one of many bitch management tools. Men commit crime because of women. Control women and end crime. Even homosexuality disappears when women are nice
>>544077294I agree prisons should be abolished. They're cruel, but more importantly they force other people (wardens, guards etc.) to commit cruelty, which is an unfair expectation of someone.There should be a simple point system, where once you've used your points up, you're placed into a room with a method of taking your own life.
