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>be Western country
>have a military for protecting your territory
>have strict, formal procedures in place that are meant to protect your form of government and the continuity of your state and country
>also have unlimited immigration
>issue millions of citizenships to literally anyone who crosses the border
>allow dual citizenships
How does this make even the slightest bit of sense? Even though older Western governments may have acted in bizarre ways, they followed an internal logic based on the basic principles of state, people, and government. The modern West has completely lost touch with reality.
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>>544081280
who is "your" with regards to territory?
it would seem the banks own the claim and the military serves the will of the US dollar.
even yours.
every square inch of this economy conquered planet is arranged as a military installation complete with sentry outposts and armed guards.
their coordination is shit tier but their will to kill you for their benefit of having others enslaved is what drives the "territory" claim to be held despite the originators dropping dead long ago.
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>>544081280
easy
the gobernment, military and cops are traitors
the military and cops are the worst traitors (also, crooks, perjurers, usurpers and deserters), because they protec the gobernment from you
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>>544081391
While that may be the case, I think you are missing my point. Regardless of who controls or have interests in a territory, basic principles state that a population should converge towards loyalty, predictability and order. What I am saying is that the West is following a path that is completely incomprehensible to me. We maintain these procedures, these formalisms, and this philosophically coded language, while our practical act of governing is characterized by broken logic.
>>544081586
I think that is too simple. Not everyone is a traitor. This a systemic problem of basic ideological foundations.
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>>544081280
It makes sense from the perspective of a progressive. You have to remember that they don't think citizenship should be decided on a racial or ethnic basis. To them, anyone can be a citizen of their nation if they meet certain criteria, but these criteria can't be based on something that is supposed to be inherited by birth.so,even if entire sweden gets replaced by foreign populations,it would still make sense for them to spend billions on military.
Technically, they spend billions to defend the nation, even though the definition of a nation has been blurred to the point of becoming unrecognizable. Most of the time, they use the term "nation" to refer to some economic zone. Basically, they spend billions to defend that economic zone. You're just part of the economy, as are people with dual citizenship.
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>>544081280
Jews. They literally do this every single time anon
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>>544081280
In 2015 people believed statehood was an ancient concept of the 19th century. You mix too many timelines to understand the bigger picture.
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>>544081280
Go fucking back ugly pedotranny >>>/a/
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>>544082005
oh yeah, the aryan women voting these socialists in are jews, amirite?
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>>544082157
The kikes rewriting our patriarchal constitution, yeah.
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>>544082221
so when some aryans do something its not all aryans but when some jews do something its all jews.... you guys are just like the niggers that blame all their problems on a better performing group as a cope.
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>>544082248
the jews just rewrite your constitution at will? LOL
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>>544081280
older western governments would take anyone who swore allegiance to them, a lot of the time
the "Swedish" empire was full of Scots and Germans
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>>544081280
it makes sense because democracy is a cancer.
the politicians are being bribed, our countries are getting conquered by the saudi royals. they just bought you.
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>>544081881
>I think that is too simple. Not everyone is a traitor. This a systemic problem of basic ideological foundations.
how cohenvenient
meanwhile, in reality, cops and militaries have the means to put an end to all that shitshow
and what do they do instead?
they protec those who instated and keep that shitshow going
any way you put it, any sorry excuse you try and find to deny reality, those are still undeniable facts
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>>544081280
Where's my Western citizenship
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>>544083759
>how cohenvenient
>meanwhile, in reality, cops and militaries have the means to put an end to all that shitshow
>and what do they do instead?
>they protec those who instated and keep that shitshow going
Anon, there are institutions that prevent them from doing such things. The institutional design forces the police and military to obey those above them. It’s those at the top who are traitors, while everyone else is forced to obey them.
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>>544081586
This anon get it
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>>544081280
Stop asking questions and embrace democracy, goyim. Whether or not this benefits you personally IS NOT IMPORTANT!
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>>544084169
It would be very hard for, say, a top general to lead a coup.
Sure, he could maybe surprise merc a plethora of kikes, but how's he going to run the country after that? The currency, how's he going to pay his followers for their loyalty, entice them to revolt? How will he endure the inevitable reprisal strike? How will he get his conspiracy running to begin with, when any chink, russoid, jew, jeet, can be a mossad informant, and his countrymen and spics and japs and whatever are, half of them, brainwashed and difficult to trust.
It would be very difficult to lead a coup in the modern day. Or very simple. Either way, it would be rough. Maybe the Ming has some good examples, I'd have to look into it.
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>>544084169
>there are institutions that prevent them from doing such things
yeah: and those deserting and traitorous cops' and militaries' ONE JOB is to protec these tyrannical and pedophiliac institutions
>The institutional design forces the police and military to obey those above them
wrong: they obey them because they choose to
you don't think it be like it is, but it do
>It’s those at the top who are traitors
no, not just
those who choose to obey them are even worse traitors, even
precisely because it's them who ensure those who are at the top keep their shitshow going
without these underlings obeying, the tyrants and traitors at the top would have long been dragged to the traitor gallows

>>544084415
>It would be very hard for, say, a top general to lead a coup
no: it would be very easy
it won't happen, though: because ALL colonels and generals are freemason sodomites, at the very least Occident wide (they wouldn't get such ranks, otherwise)
>how's he going to run the country after that?
run the country?
why?
they should be glad if they aren't dragged to the traitor gallows themselves, for having been so slow to act
>How will he get his conspiracy running to begin with
they have magic wands (guns)!
all it takes is using those, really
>it would be rough
the more utterly brutal, the less there needs for the violence to spread very far or for very long
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>>544084561
>they should be glad if they aren't dragged to the traitor gallows themselves
I agree with you, but I was entertaining the situation as if it was a human presumably like us in the role, who had longterm plans for the future.
That any western military isn't trying regardless, proves their worthlessness, yes.

"Ah! the Generals! They are numerous, but not good for much!" —Aristophanes
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>>544081280
Jews successfully managed to trick governments into surrendering their country while thinking it's beneficial for them and an act of kindness to others. This was seeded a century ago with the start of the feminist movement, also created by jews.



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