>>544082056>charlemagnedefinitely wasn't german
>>544082308It's RACIAL , not name
>>544082319Why would they give the man a name not of his race?
>>544082337Are you retarded or just shitposting?
Why is the turd world so obsessed with yoorope?It's 90% of their discussion topic.
>>544082056the greatest german to ever live was bismarck, i really dont get why no one talks about him. Forget nuclear energy or oil. We just need to find a way to show the current state of germany to him and his spinning in the grave will power up europe for eternity
>>544082056Charlemagne was king of the Franks, a Germanic tribe
>>544082359Charlemagne is simply not a German name
>>544082056>Tribes merge>Tribes divide>Tribes merge again>Tribes divide againIf you don't understand that about history it's useless to answer your question.Franks were Germanic tribes which along with other tribes invaded further west and took territories where they could, at the fall of the Roman empire.There were other kingdoms too, that got absorbed or defeated such as the Burgundians, Soissons, etc.Ethnically anything further west was less mixed with the Latin world, while today's France is ethnically more mixed and that reflects in language too. French is a very complex mix of proto Germanic languages with Latin.If you start to understand that basically the Frankish empire was a large territory of people that got merged, with some ethnic mixing in former Roman territories, the question doesn't make any sense.France and Germany are just divisions of this former empire. Germany was even more territories before today (Bavaria was a kingdom for example). SoCharlemagne is Frankish. Not french, not German as in "countries". Ethnically Germanic, tho we can assume some Roman or Celtic branches in his genealogy.
>>544082449Dundee is clearly an aboriginal name either m8.
>>544082449He was named Karl or Carlie and the capital of his was Aachen, Westphalia.Wasn't he french or German?Ethnically German but he himself would have been oblivious to that. Back in the day people simply didn't think in terms of nationality.So the answer is both: he is both German and French in today's terms
>>544082375the whole world is obsessed with europe
>>544082308The local population of today's france spoke some kind of vulgar latin, but the people in the court including Karl der Große would speak old german.
>>544082056>Charlemagne the greatestThe greatest kike enablerKILL ALL JEET SUBHUMANS!
>>544082056Charlemagne was a piece of shit heretic who spread Christianity by the sword and murdered thousands of Saxons by trying to force convert the Saxons to Nicene Christianity in the Saxon Wars. Force converting people to Christianity is specifically prohibited in Luke 9:54-55 in the New Testamentin the Bible! It gives Christianity a bad name!
>>544082056>CharlemagneFrench
>>544082056Belgian, but still the same family group.
>>544082056>Chudes
>>544082836lmao weren't you a pagan larper at one point?
>>544082375Europeans don't give a fuck about their history, nature hate emptyness.
>>544082056French is the greatest German.
>>544082929No.
>>544082775Im with blondes ( pure )
There were no French or German nationalities back then. Stupid discussion
>>544082929No but I understand some of their grievances. Subhumans have no business leading Christianity where they use it as an excuse to go on a power trip. Christ would find that kind of behavior to be a heretical abomination.
>>544082056He gave Jews a legal banking monopoly while massacring pagans. Extremely French behavior.
>>544082056AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREEAND I WON'T FORGET THE MEN WHO DIED, GAVE THEIR LIFE FOR MEAND I'D GLADLY STAND UP.....
>>544082056france and germany didn't exist. charlemagne was frankish
>>544083015This.He was the greatest Frankish king.
>>544082056I thought he was a Roman?
>>544082308the french language didn't even exist yetfranks were a germanic tribe, they weren't latinized yet at the time
>>544082056Charlemagne was Frankish Aristocracy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FranksThe Franks were a Germanic tribe, that invaded parts of the Roman Empire and established their kingdom largely in old Roman Empire territory and became the ruling class over a people of mostly Celts and Romans. Hence later the idea of Gobineau that the french aristocracy was the purest Aryan population.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_GobineauSo, was Charlemagne/Karl der Große a Frenchman or a German? Racially he was Germanic. The French Nation was born out of a Germanic Aristocracy/elite ruling over Celts/Romans and in the process forming one homogeneous people, the French. He is kind of the founder of the French nation concept.
>>544082308retard alert
>>544083363>France>homogenouseIt wasn't this way. French Kingdom was seperated regions with every single of them having their racial, linguistic and cultural specifity. The monarchy was wise enough to maintain this harmony.
>>544082056He brought jews first. French can have him.
>>544082729> Back in the day people simply didn't think in terms of nationalitySay no to drugs. Frankish nationality was as strong as you can get
>>544082056French are Germans who speak silly.
Charlemagne was a salian frank. Which means he was genetically a germanized belgian gaul.
>>544083363>Charlemagne was Frankish Aristocracy.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FranksFrom Liège
It's a shame the latin west gradually fell away from the truth of Orthodox Christianity.Europe has never healed from Rome's schism. The Filoque led western Europe into a rabbit hole of scholasticism, renaissance, reformation, enlightenment and ultimately satanic revolution.Russia was the only hope until that also fell to masonic revolutionaries in 1917.
>>544083015Germans technically did exist even before this
>>544085456those were geographic areas>Once the Vandals came to live outside of Germania, they were no longer considered Germani by ancient Roman authors.[15]
>>544085314>belgain gaulBelgae were not gauls. They were a confederation of celtic and germanic tribes existing on the border of both cultural spheres. "Germanized Belgian" is redundant. Belgae are inherently germanized and even partly germanic.
>>544082056He literally caused our jewish problem dumbass
>>544085536The goths were the foundation of pan-Germanic aristocracy and they were not considered germani by the romans. Why would the primitive scribblings of unlearned italians define cultural proximity?
>>544083363they really only ruled an island in the the Seine
>>544082308Karl den Store was norwegian
>>544082449Every language has their version of the name. But anglos being norman rape babies cant grasp that lol
>>544085314the West never recovered from barbaric invasions that led to the need of a gradually more and more contractualist ideologies to accomodate aliens from the Caracala treaty to the Corpus Juris Civil to Charlemagne to the Enlightenment to the French revolution until the shitshow today when we have to pretend that malians are frenchmen
>>544085701Except the Severans were not a barbaric invasion, but a semitic coup
>>544085605because germania is italian word retard
>>544082056>england still independentneither
>>544085701Race based organization died with the saxxons, our laws are universal concepts in order to prevent one jew showing up claiming our racial laws don't apply to him
>>544082056what happens here
>>544082056Not very germane to be frank
>>544086070nothing, evere
>>544085314In baptised orthodox but it was a great error for the eastern Rome to reject Filioque. No glory is too great for Jesus Christ, including emanating the Holy Spirit. It is written, In the Beginning there was God (the Father) and the Word (Jesus) was with God. And the Word (Jesus) was God. And everything that was created was made by the Word (Jesus). If things are how I think, that the Holy Spirit is Concience and Morals rolled into one than it makes sense that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son as well as from the Father. Secondly, ERE was found to be in a schism in the time of Irene, way before the Great Schism.And the most important thing is that Jesus promised Peter and to his Church (Rome) complete license and certainty of Victory. ERE doesn't qualify because it was conquered by muslims whilst Rome wasnt
>>544082056I like Otto III because he was a romeboo (or byzantineboo) and tried to restore the western roman empire for real>b-b-but he was a retardAnd so am I
>>544085701The idea that men are blank slates to be molded by education and nurture came from the Enlightenment. The motto of liberty, egalitarianism and universal brotherhood was born out of the French Revolution. The whole noble savage thing.Prior to this, people stuck to their own kind. Nations in the Biblical term means your own ethnic people, the extended tribe. People who look like you, speak like you, behave like you, etc. God ordained borders and boundaries, Satan wants to erase borders, New World Order is Babel 2.0 - Technocratic Oligarchy edition.
>>544082056Charlemagne was a shabbos goy and a traitor
