>>544089687Not actually directly intervening in wars, treating it as proxy wars, like NATO is treating Ukraine and Russia, by only sending volunteers and military aid, and most important mistake was trusting the US
>>544089865For example if he didn't withdraw in 1991 after a brutal mogging of everyone due to US promises and pressure, he wouldn't have been picked apart one by one, by USA
>>544089687Nothing. He did alright.
>>544089687staying on commie side in times when commies were disintergrating around the worldbut commies wouldnt an hero themselves if they werent commies to begin with
Everyone always misses the real capital one.He married a demon from hell, a courtesan of Satan's court itself.
>>544089687not reading the roomhe should have cucked to the ethno nationalists and jihadists and joined the EU
>>544089865I am curious, did VRS wanted to conquer all of bosnia or is the region that is now Rs what they wanted?
>>544090513servia didnt exist then anon, it was yugoslavia and they were treated as insurgent rebellion against the government
>>544090513No, they wanted to join the majority Serb regions with Serbia. But, they did hold about 72% of Bosnia at peak. Keep in mind that was the Bosnian Serb Army, not Serbian Army. This is the ethnic map before the wars.
>>544090563VRS= army of republika srpska, which is Bosnian Serb ArmyAnd it does not matter what Serbia was called back then, Albanoid in Greece. Past 1993, Yugoslavia was de facto Serbia and Serbia is the legal successor of it.
>>544089687Looting the central bank when Yugo dinar was in a freefall
>>544090606Serbian army back then was formally called JNA, and it was just idle in Serbia past 1991 with about 200k troops, except for those who volunteered to help Bosnian Serb and Croatian Serb armies
>>544089687Chimping out like a nigger he is thinking “we wuz rulers of balkan and shiiiieeeettttttt” and proceeding to lose every war like niggers.Anyway some Kosovar anon was angry-sad that dogs killed a cat he just adopted for revenge and now is going out for blood.
>>544090692Is it true that Croats and muslims were closing in on Banja luka in ‘95
>>544090825I see albos still follow the Kanun
>>544089687Not genociding every muslim between the ages of 1 day and 110 years
>>544090825stay on reddit with your "muh heckin furbaby" faggots
>>544090692holy shit serboon you have zero self awarenessno such thing as "serbia" it was YUGOSLAVIA and its was BOMBED by NATO trannies
Arent bosniaks just serbocroats that converted? Why not convert them back?
>>544091144Yes
He should have quickly accepted the break-up of YugoslaviaSecession is fully legal under the UN Charter, as per Hague Court 2010 Kosovo caseRight of self-determination for allObviously including Palestine, Donbass, Taiwan, Catalonia etc
>>544089865>>544089928I'll try to explain in depth, even though I cba and I'm quite drunk, and I know it will go underappreciated.When JNA intervened in Croatia, and when Croatia seceded, the president of Yugoslavia was a Croat, called Stipe Mesić, picrel. Yugoslavia had a legal obligation to stop secession movements, so the army was sent.Milosevic inherited that situation despite not wanting it legally, because Milosevic was not your typical Balkan leader, but a serious dude who was a banker to the Rothschilds in NYC and knew the law, and was very intelligent. The issue is, he was surrounded by communist traitors. Then, JNA conquered about 20%-25% of Croatia in 9 months, and US intervened diplomatically and offered Milosevic the guarantee of the existence of Srpska Krajina, and territorial integrity of Serbia and Montenegro if he withdrew troops from Croatia, which he did in 1991.Croatia then fought the army of Srpska Krajina for about 4 years after that, which only had military aid and volunteers from Serbia (Yugoslavia), but Serbia was not legally allowed to participate in the war, so about 200k JNA soldiers were stationed in Serbia doing nothing while wars were waging on everywhere.In Bosnia, the goal of the international community and Milosevic was to present it as a civil war between Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats, which succeeded as UN courts ruled it as such, and also ruled the Croatian war as a civil war and not an interstate war.In Bosnia, Bosnian Muslims didn't really fight much, it was mostly Bosnian Serbs fighting against UN soldiers and Mujahideens from Arab countries, and only sometimes ArBIH. Also Bosnian Croat army, which was backed by direct intervention from the Croatian army (unlike Serbia, which didn't do that past 1991 because Milosevic wasn't an idiot and didn't want to violate the UN laws). Croatia then got sanctioned for this. Milosevic supported the Bosnian Serb army with volunteers and equipment.
>>544089687not getting covering up that forehead runway
>>544092792>>544089865>>544089928>>544090850In Bosnia, Bosnian Serb army was by far the most dominant: it controlled 72% of Bosnia and essentially won the war: it controls 50% of Bosnia currently, has a president and equal seats in the parliament as Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats, within the federation. This means everyone has equal power, except Bosnian Serbs control the most, while Bosnian Muslims control 27% and Bosnian Croats 23%.In Croatia, this proved to be a stupid choice, because the army of Srpska krajina alone (50k men) couldn't hold against the Croatian army after 4 years (200k men), 2 billion $ yearly budget, and western training and intelligence, as well as roughly 1/3 of Yugoslav equipment due to Croatian members of the JNA deserting and rejecting orders from Belgrade.
>>544092966This is the current structure of BosniaFederation of equals: equal seats, each ethnic group has their own president, except that Serbs also have their own bordersThose borders are roughly:Bosnian Serbs: 50%Bosnian Muslims: 27%Bosnian Croats: 23%
>>544092966So why was Croatian. Army and arbih closing in and milosevic signed dayton?
>>544093098What's the future gonna hold, is this shit any stable?
>>544092462>>544089865>>5440899281. Secession is not fully legal under UN charter, it's actually the opposite under UN Security council resolution 1244.2. Tito legally balkanized Serbia during Yugoslavia while de facto allowing Croatia and Slovenia to leave with more territory than they joined, despite Yugoslavia being built on Serb victory in WW1, when Serbs could have easily formed a "greater Serbia" instead of a kingdom of Serbs, Slovenes and Croats. While Slovenia and Croatia incorporated Istria from Italy.3. Tito could have easily balkanized Croatia and Bosnia like he did to Serbia, by splitting Croatia into what it was before Yugoslavia: Croatia and Dalmatia, and later on by not incorporating Istria into Croatia. Even Tito himself acknowledged this could be perceived as a greater Croatia move, and was worried. The more diverse country, which, at the time, had Serbs as its main ethnicity did not get balkanized (Bosnia) and instead it was only done to Serbia. You also had the famous Tito saying "The only strong Yugoslavia is a weak Serbia"4. Therefore, there were real grievances from the Serb side due to Tito's actions, as it meant half of Serbs would live outside of what was legally defined as Serbia, and as it meant that Serbia would be the only peoples to leave with less territory than they joined, despite losing over 30% of it's population and 54% of males to form it, and to free Bosnia (which was until 1961. Serbian plurality, meaning Serbs were the most populous ethnic group, not Bosnian Muslims).5. These were the borders before Tito, under a Serbian king, who actually gave Croatia half of Bosnia.6. If secession is legal as you say, then so did the Croat Serbs have the right, and so do the Bosnian Serbs right now, which would mean an even larger Serbia7. Western stance on the Balkans currently is hypocritical, since one has the right to secede while another doesn't, and it's also a violation of international law.
>>544093294Because Serbia threatened to officially join the war, since Croatia did not have the legal right to intervene in Bosnia directly, just like Serbia didn't.>The claim that Serbia threatened to officially enter the war if the US did not halt the joint Bosnian-Croat military advances is historically accurate.>This specific geopolitical brinkmanship occurred in September and October 1995, during the final months of the Bosnian War.>>544093481No, how can hypocritical stances, violations of international law and all the blame resting on one side be stable? Bosnia is dysfunctional and cannot function due to the legal structure.
>>544093515>>544089865>>544089928Here is the ethnic map
>>544089865Why are you retards always so delusional, we would've gotten pulverized if the war had dragged on. Also eat shit and fuck off with your bloodthirsty sacrificial mentality, i know your kind would do anything to avoid the draft
>>544093481You already have both leaders of the Bosnian Serb entity, especially Stanivuković, calling for independence and reuniting with Serbia, and Serbian approach in the early 2000s was actually to treat Kosovo just like Republika srpska, to let majority Albanian parts secede in exchange for republika srpska seceding, but US didn't let it happen, since they want a black hole in Europe via Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo and Albania, as it benefits them.
>>544089687He had this extraordinarily low-hanging ball sack. They used to call him ball sack of the Balkans and it followed him everywhere and he could never live it down and then one day he just snapped.
>>544090825Now, because of Western intervention, you get Albanian monkeys like this being confident, as if they did something, or as if they had stealth bombers and it wasn't the US bombing Serbia for 3 months, causing damages of $40-100 billion 1991 USD, or $100-200 billion 2026 USDThe only bad thing for Serbia is that such a comparison between the two states even exist, if you told a Serb from 1900s his enemies would seriously be such a lowly peoples like Albanians, I think most would commit suicide, but I rest my case since Jewish overlords do what they do and shape the world as they see fit.
>>544093759My father killed 2 Croats and 1 Muslim, and was a volunteer. What did yours do? I don't dodge anything. I welcome war, better than peace under bad conditions.phttps://youtube.com/shorts/Dy6lZqcKyKY
>>544093759Your ancestors fought 10x larger states, war after war. First Balkan war against the ottomans just a year prior to the first world war, second balkan war against Bulgaria just a few months before the first world war against Austria-Hungary. Did the hide and cower while allowing their brothers to fight alone? No, the entire Serb lands took up arms. That is the fuck up of the 90s, that we stayed out of it while 50k fought against 200k
>>544093759t. westernised student parasite
He trusted the amerimutt and his final mistake was not killing protestors (foreign agents) 26 years ago
>>544094406Whats your verdict on him
>>544089865Please get a hobby and stop spamming every Balkan thread with the same fucking posts you fucking retard
>>544094199>le cool darth anakin editYou have to be 18 to post here
>>544095451>>544095406Eat my shit boomer, soon you'll have way more without my involvement whatsoever, as if your kind didn't spam the chans for years.>>544095305No opinion
>>544089687not killing enough muslims i blame tony blair tho, fucking paki loving faggot
>>544090606Wouldn't it have been easier to partition BHZ & conduct a 1923 style population exchanges? Considering your map it seems impossible, but why was such an option rejected?>>544092462Also, why did Montenegro ever split from Serbia? Or join NATO for that matter, if they are ethnically Serbs-in-denial?
>>544095612Are you okay with the status quo in Bosnia?
>>544095967>Also, why did Montenegro ever split from Serbia? Or join NATO for that matter, if they are ethnically Serbs-in-denial?Montenegro's referendum was stolen by Muslim minorities: Montenegro got 55.4% out of necessary 55% votes for yes, however 18% of the voters were Albanians and Bosnian Muslims, 2% Croats and 1% Gypsies whose vote Milo could purchase for 10€.Also, a ton of Montenegrin (regional term) Serbs moved to Vojvodina in 1900s and their offspring are not able to get citizenship despite having roots there, so for example I'm more Montenegrin than Vojvodinian, yet I can't get a citizenship because the EU imposed on Montenegro to make such laws, because the difference between those who identify as Serbs and Montenegrins is only 50000, which would be nullified if the offspring of those who left for Vojvodina were allowed to have a citizenship.Milo Đukanović, the person behind its independence, was literally a self identified Serb in the 1990s and the biggest advocate for war against Croats and Muslims, said the official reason was an ideological drift, claiming Montenegro's economy couldn't have sustained the route Serbia was taking because it's a tourism based eocnomy, while Serbia's economy is based on industry. The real reason,however, was the war on crime coming from Belgrade which threatened powerful people in Montenegro's mafia, which is why they killed our prime minister. One Montenegrin Serb (Darko Šarić) had a net worth of 40 billion $, which was 12 times the Montenegro's GDP, and he ran an organized crime group of Montenegro, and so that's where the push for independence really came from.
>>544089687being an international banking (((cartel))) plant put in power to destroy yugoslavia via extreme nationalism & radicalism. we had a good thing and these asswipes drowned it in literal blood. as per usual
>>544095967>but why was such an option rejected?Because you don't seem to understand what "Jihad is", or what the Bosnian Muslim wrote in his books before the wars even began. They wouldn't accept it. All Bosnian Serbs wanted was exactly that, because of what their leader wrote."There can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions...the state should be an expression of religion and should support its moral concepts."[14]>Osama bin Laden served as a military adviser to the Bosnian president, Alija Izetbegović, in 1992-94>>The Declaration designated Pakistan as a model country to be emulated by Muslim revolutionaries worldwide.[15] One of the passages that was in particular picked out by his opponents was, "There can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions...the state should be an expression of religion and should support its moral concepts."[14]>Bosniak leader wrote a book "Islamic declaration", in which he advocated for ethnic cleansing of Christians (both Catholic and Orthodox) from Bosnia because "Christians cannot live alongside Muslims and claimed the only way for Muslims to have their own country is if they ethnically cleansed all the Christians". For this, he was jailed in Yugoslavia by Tito and considered a terrorist. This was before any of the wars.
>>544096255No, because it's creating a black hole in Bosnia. They'll never be functional, they'll never be able to pass anything in parliament, they'll never join the EU, so that means a worse life for Bosnian Serbs. It's also creating a black hole in Serbia and Kosovo, because Serbs are rightfully angry at hypocritical violations of the international law and allowing Kosovars to secede but not Bosnian Serbs. The solution could have been made 20 years ago.
>>544096800What was your leader then? Islamic cartel who declared jihad and wrote a book "Islamic declaration" and sought to ethnically cleanse Croats and Serbs before the wars took place, got jailed by Tito and so on? What was good? The Muslims literally killed a Serbian father at his wedding, who they didn't even know, just because the wedding was christian. We are over your "unity and brotherhood". We tried that once at our expense, made on our blood and victories, and we got burnt. Never again.
>>544089687playing jewish musical chairs, AKA "the politic"