In 1970, Richard Lewontin defeated IQ hereditarianism and Arthur Jensen's claims of genetic racial differences in intelligence.https://jayjoseph22.substack.com/p/how-richard-lewontin-defeated-iq
>>544093603Well?
>>544093603pottery
>>544093603And 50 years later no one thinks niggers can be anything but violent retards.
>>544093603
Sophistry isn't science.
>>544093603nigger if it's only one paragraph post it here or buy a ad
>>544093603>jew in the stone age said this, thus we should listen!kill yourself.
>>544093779ad hominem.
Lol where's the "paragraph"?It's like a 10 page article full of bullshit.>Uhm heritability is bad because it's used to justify EUGENICS
>>544093779funny, seems like this is an internal rat war
>>544093807>>544093817>in one paragraphJews are not humans, being instead demonic entities. This is the only philosophically consistent position.
>>544093603I skimmed this his argument is>Muh social factorsWhich has been disproven again and again by the facts blacks do badly EVERYWHERE.
>iq isnt hereditary because cornmy god ive wasted my life heiling hitler. jews win, guys. pack it up
As you might imagine the paragraph in question is pilpul and simply outlines a scenario where population differences in a trait COULD be purely the result of environmental factors, which is then presented as evidence that they are
>>544094084IT's funny how far they are willing to distort and ignore reality. Everywhere on earth that the black race inhabits is a shithole, everywhere. Even the best ones within their group. But these types can't accept the truth and have to make text after text and study after study after study to prove it is anything but the truth: Genetics. We will never progress as a species because 80% of our species refuses to accept reality
>It holds that science justifies a hierarchy of human races, typically classifying some groups as genetically inferior.They sure do like to set up rigid definitions of their opponents views so they have an easier time falsifying them.Also note in pic rel, they just declare all research on race and intelligence to be "flawed", yet also vehemently oppose any further research into the matter.I wonder why?
Behold! Genetics are false!
>slopstackKys, jeet
>>544094068Niggers that get adopted to rich families? How are they doing?
>>544094308The argument basically comes down to this, if I'm reading it properly:>There's no way to be 100% sure that we've isolated all environmental factors>Therefore we can never fully rule out environment as the cause of variations in intelligence >Even twin studies and studies of interracial siblings can't fully rule out environmental factors >So all of the data collected is "flawed" and maybe falsified>Therefore we must throw it out and consider it unreliable >And also, we shouldn't actually try to control for that and just accept that all people have equal potential despite hundreds of thousands of years of divergent evolution and well-documented biodiversity among the racesIt's nonsense.
My jewdar is going crazy
>>544093603>In 1970, Richard Lewontin defeated IQ hereditarianism and Arthur Jensen's claims of genetic racial differences in intelligence.>https://jayjoseph22.substack.com/p/how-richard-lewontin-defeated-iqobviously he lived a white privileged life
>>544094741Round glasses are a jewish in-group dog whistle.
>Unironically propping up Lewontin in the big 2026
>>544093603Lewontin looked at factors that didnt correlate to anything because he was a second rate midwit and then said that race doesnt exist
>>544094669"General intelligence (g) and virtually all other behavioral traits are heritable. Associations between g and specific single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in several candidate genes involved in brain function have been reported. We sought to replicate published associations between g and 12 specific genetic variants (in the genes DTNBP1, CTSD, DRD2, ANKK1, CHRM2, SSADH, COMT, BDNF, CHRNA4, DISC1, APOE, and SNAP25) using data sets from three independent, well-characterized longitudinal studies with samples of 5,571, 1,759, and 2,441 individuals. Of 32 independent tests across all three data sets, only 1 was nominally significant. By contrast, power analyses showed that we should have expected 10 to 15 significant associations, given reasonable assumptions for genotype effect sizes. For positive controls, we confirmed accepted genetic associations for Alzheimer’s disease and body mass index, and we used SNP-based calculations of genetic relatedness to replicate previous estimates that about half of the variance in g is accounted for by common genetic variation among individuals. We conclude that the molecular genetics of psychology and social science requires approaches that go beyond the examination of candidate genes."https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797611435528
>>544094320Now compare their height to a redwood tree
>>544094942This word vomit. I don't even bother to read it anymore. All you have to do is look at the world and see.>Yeah, there are differences between races
>some jew wrote an opinion peice, therefore you are wrongsums up modern science.
what is the hypothesis here, that keeping two populations in isolation for 40,000 years in two vastly different environments results in no net difference in IQ, though other physiological differences get quite significant?
>>544093603So then why are all niggers and jeets fucking retarded?
>>544095307Uhhh, da environment!
>>544093603How do you 'defeat' genetics in 1970?
>>544095367But niggers and jeets are retarded in Africa and India, Europe, America, and every other place they shouldn't be.
>>544093603>People still promoting Lewontin's fallacy>IQ has already been proved and accepted to be largely hereditary
>>544094942>We couldn't identify individual genes that directly map to intelligence >Therefore it cannot be a genetic factorAnd yet it definitively is related to genetics because we can see quite clearly that we have much more intelligence than our closest genetic neighbors, great apes.Intelligence *is* genetic in inter-species analysis, but not intra-species? How odd. Especially when with just general observation we can see that intelligence seems to follow racial lines. We know what the average IQ of various races is. We've tested it.Yet we throw all that data out because we failed to identify specific genes that *dictate* general intelligence in 2012?Looks like bad science to me.
>>544094942>These 12 specific genes can't be the only explanation for the difference in intelligence >Therefore disregard every other test done in real life.Are you braindead?
>>544093603>lewontinImagine having a fallacy named after you.
twin study
>>544094942>"General intelligence (g)The whole notion of 'G' is jewish pseudo-science, but /pol/ isn't ready for that discussion yet.
>>544094648They're still monkeys. There are two fat Germanic pig christcucks who adopted three nigger kids, and the nigger boy is the most low IQ monkey I've ever seen.
>>544094156>>544094308good finds, kek
>>544093603>GENETICS EFFECT EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF YOUR BODY EXCEPT THE BRAIN BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T OKAY?!!!!I fucking love Science (TM).
>>544095696Yeah the wilson effect. Kikes argue its because nigger develop a low IQ because of white racism or because they discover their niggerdom in adulthood, latter part convinces me.
>>544094942>given reasonable assumptions
>>544093603Not going to bother reading. Even my ultra left wing statistics prof. would readily tell you that a child's IQ will be found in a range determined by the average of the parent's IQ ± 1 standard deviation. It's a pretty wide hit zone, granted, but this methodology is accurate to well over 99% of cases.You can bitch and moan and do all manner of mental gymnastics to interpret how you got to your data points, but the data will remain the same.
Every night, before falling asleep, it eats away at a liberal that xhe will never be a Jewish intellectual photographed in black and white.
>>544093841jews are pathological liars
>>544093603Nigger, no matter how much you try you'll never be equal, your race is responsible for most violent crimes in my country and every country contaminated with "yo people".
>>544093909only a quarter jewish thoughmostly germanic
>>544093603>nuh uh>-richard jewtin
>>544094942>probablylmao
>>544093841fucking glownigger faggot you will never be a woman
>>544094156>ERMMMM SUPPOSE WE COMPARE A SAPIENT LIFE FORM TO A VEGETABLE This isn't science lmao. It's just a badly constructed metaphor. Is this shit really getting published? Is this what Redditors mean when they say "The Science"?
>>544093841Found the jew
>>544094945this is begging the question
>>544093603>Race differences COULD be environmental, therefore they are!Neato argo, bro. I want to try.>Race differences COULD be genetic, therefore they are!Meanwhile, I will continue to wait for the first shred of evidence consistent with the theory of racial equality, because so far there is none. There is just evidence consistent with the theory of racial inequality that nigger lovers find fault with. But all evidence has faults. That's why we go with the preponderance of the evidence, taken over multiple methodologies, and all of the evidence by all methodologies is 100% consistent with racial inequality. Nigger lovers refuse to believe it, though. Instead, they believe in racial equality, for which there is not one shred of evidence yet, and never will be.
>>544094156I figured as much. He was using words to prove things instead of scientific instrumentation, data, arithmetic, geometric.Words are cheap.
>>544096712>I made every person like his and her fellow; and I did not command them to do evil. It was in their own hearts and minds which caused them to disobey that which I commanded. This too is one of the deeds.
>>544094320those are plants bro, also zero context and every study in the last 50 years is fake
>>544093603Pseudointellectual argumentsAssumes that the seeds in both pots are from the same bag and have the same degree of variabilityIn group variability is entirely irrelevant to between group variability, so bringing it up is an attempt to muddy the waters
>>544093603If you despute IQ hereditarianism you would also have to depute all hereditarianism and evolution
>>544093603It is literally the standard stance of the academy that IQ is heredetary, with decades of ironclad evidence behind it.Did the journo not get the memo?
>>544096784Forcing white people to send their children to school with niggers, from age 5 to age 17, for 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, 9 months of the year, for 13 years, for a total of 16,000 hours, is the most evil thing that has ever happened.
>“Immeasurable minds” (無量心) is a reference to the four immeasurable minds (四無量心 / apramāṇa-citta), namely: loving kindness; compassion; sympathetic joy; and equanimity.
>>544096826forgive my ignorance, but isn't the point about how you carve up the populations you're trying to determine statistically significant divergences between? isn't this the same thing that happens all of the time on /pol/ when people say which groups aren't really White?
>>544096799I didn't even read the article. Is that what it said? I am familiar with this Jewish argument. Race differences, in IQ and anything else, would be based on SPECIFIC genes and gene complexes, so you would look for between and within group variability on those specific points. So of course the Jew comes in and changes the subject and says something about between- and within-group variability for the ENTIRE genome.When a Jew speaks, there is always a trick in it, and it's not even a good one. You just have to look.
>>544096989to elaborate, if it's IQ your measuring for, couldn't IQ also be a predictor within the White population? (between Slavs, Italians, etc)?
>>544096989>>544097096This is true, that which populations we compare against also have divergent sub-populations which have varrying averages, but that doesnt dispell the hereditarianism of IQ. IQ hereditatianism isn't simply white IQ > black IQ, it just means that intelligence is an inherited trait and not a purely environmental product. The points you raised don't matter that much
>>544097844thanks. I thought part of the criticism of the concept of race is that skin colour doesn't act as a good predictor of other things (like lactose tolerance, blood type, etc). If there are subgroups isn't the question how we carve up populations when we're talking about usefulness (predictive power)? And the question is whether race is the most effective way to carve up these populations... correct me if I'm wrong
>>544094156>"imagine we take a handful of fully, terminally mutted seeds. Differences will all be environmental" No shit, shylock. now do the experiment with two handfulls of DIFFERENT seeds. because thats kind of the whole point. Yes, when/if you kikes succeed in making the entire human race completely homogenous brown mutt-meat like your corn, the environment would be the biggest factor. stupid lying kike. But the seeds in each hand ARE different, very different...for now.
>>544098420You're begging the question though by assuming that racial differences are more than superficial. Fst scores show far less difference between racial groups than between species, subspecies or cultivars of plants.
>>544098038Race is not just skin deep so it wouldnt make sense to try and corelate any trait with just the paleness of skin, but you are right in that the way we view these racial groups is simply as skin differences and that simplifies what is actually there. The things is if we are comparing IQ hereditarianim we have to compare related groups vs other related groups. Europeans although they might seem too diiferent from each other are actually very close to each other ( even closer than a northern han is to a southern han). You can define the races as european ( instead of white) subsaharan ( instead of black) and all the other races properly the discourse could be formalized and clarified.
>>544094320But this is nonsense. The seeds came from the same lot. "two handfuls" of these do not equal racial groups on different continents.
>>544093603Aw Richard Lewtonin. So retarded that he has a fallacy named after him. I took a human bio class (required) during my degree program and they taught his theories as fact. It wasn't until I looked into it on my own that I realized it was all bullshit but that doesn't fit their narrative.
>>544094156>Imagine a reality where I am right. QED.Lol. What an absolute faggot.
>>544093603https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12879450/Human genetic diversity: Lewontin's fallacyAbstractIn popular articles that play down the genetical differences among human populations, it is often stated that about 85% of the total genetical variation is due to individual differences within populations and only 15% to differences between populations or ethnic groups. It has therefore been proposed that the division of Homo sapiens into these groups is not justified by the genetic data. This conclusion, due to R.C. Lewontin in 1972, is unwarranted because the argument ignores the fact that most of the information that distinguishes populations is hidden in the correlation structure of the data and not simply in the variation of the individual factors. The underlying logic, which was discussed in the early years of the last century, is here discussed using a simple genetical example.Copyright 2003 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.PubMed DisclaimerComment inA downward bias in probability of misclassification of human polymorphic loci? (referring to DOI 10.1002/bies.10315).Fukui Y. Bioessays. 2013. PMID: 23703155 No abstract available.
>>544093779>broker of textilesMeaning he stole a living by extracting the value from items that he bought and sold. Pure parasite merchant behaviour.
>>544093603>Lewontinthat's who they named Lewontin's fallacy after
>>544098420I don't have to beg anything. the author is begging you to accept his pilpul that does not in any way refute what he claims it does (group differences in IQ contributing to outcome.) Are you jewish too?
>>544093603So there's no such thing as a jew?
>>544098586>>544100605sorry, meant to reply to the jew
>>544093841the only person applying logic is brown. grim.
>>544094156>food analogyso this is the power of academia...
>>544098586>Fst scores show far less difference between racial groups than between speciesCounter point:We classify Dogs and Cats as separate species from wolves and african wild cats, when genetically they are statistically identical. From a purely genetic standpoint there is basically a .0001% difference between these species genetically, and both dogs can cats can have viable genetically stable offspring very easily with their wild counterparts. Hell, dogs can makes viable offspring with fucking COYOTES. The real truth is that the very concept of species is a human made distinction that we use to classify and categorize things, but nature doesn't really work that way. The beauty of genetics is that they don't need to be 100% the same for two living things to produce offspring, and the lines between species (and race) are pretty tenuous at best, but clearly even a tiny difference in genetics can produce a MASSIVE difference in temperament and cognitive ability. Denying that is retarded in it's own way. It's not nice or fair or just, but some people are just fucking born with superior genetics. There is no getting around that no matter how much it hurts your fee fees. Life is brutally unfair and it makes everyone insanely uncomfortable to the point where we have to practice massive mental gymnastics as a society.Genetics are crazy complicated and figuring them out is like decoding program functions by manually parsing millions/billions of lines of Jeet-tier junk code to find the stuff that is actually relevant and runs the system. On top of that, no gene just controls one aspect of the system. Every line of "code" effects basically every outcome in some way and changing one gene can lead to 10 different changes. I seriously doubt humans will ever be able to actually find the scientific line between nature and nuture, and any attempt at finding the line will always ultimately end in failure because the system is simply too complex for a human brain to grasp.
>>544093603One then has to wonder why niggers are so dumb then?
>>544094156Quick, someone get these niggers some nitrogen!
>>544094156Ok so why is every black school retarded? How does corn refute this fact that whites do better than blacks in every school in the entire country?
>>544094156so he made a food analogy and that is just accepted as fact? fuck is this really how academia works?!?!
>>544093603>In 1970, Richard Lewontin defeated IQ hereditarianismAnd he was refuted in 1990
one look at school curriculum from segregation compared to desegregated curriculum now shows the negative iq impactan 8th grader back then would be equivalent to a masters or higher in college today
>muh social factorsWhat does this have to do with genetics at all?
so this is the guy responsible for free inquiry being tainted and censored
>>544101098>Y-you can't just name the jew>muh reddit tier image file with babbys first list of fallaciesIf you and your brown pal were a little more intelligent, you might have realised that there wasn't an argument made to counter. All we got was a picture of a kike, a claim that he proved something, and a response that he was a kike. Kys midwit
Disregard Lewontin, /pol/ is a LYSENKO board.
>>544093603Never happened.In fact, that entire era of Jewish windbag academics and pseudo scientists was disproved in the early 2000s.This actually was hit so hard that the progressive Left abandoned race denialism and fully embraced anti-white post-modernism and post-marxism. It was around this era that science was accused of being White supremacy.The left now fleeing post-marxism into social deterministic pseudo science will just get them hammered harder. If you thought gender theory going down was bad, you should've seen the annihilation of the "scientific" left. It was real bad. When a political group loses such a key argument, it means that argument becomes a battering ram against them. The people who claimed race isn't genetic were a laughing stock in the way the trans "woman" is. The belief automatically made the belief holder stupid.
>>544103859will there be anyone to laugh at them or will the institutions just collapse in on themselves
>>544094156>normal distribution (genes) plus an expression coefficient (environment)it doesnt disprove anythingit just means you need to do more measurementsto actually know the differences in the hereditary componentwhich you dontand waiver off with that half-assed explanation of something completely logicalthe average IQ is just too lowno, not just the retardsthe gross of academics included(but i repeat myself)
>>544102883wow fascinating. Is this why all these big brain "whites" are paying for and dying for Israel, letting a small % of the population take all the money and letting browns overrun them? Must be a big brain move I iz too stoopids to undertaynd.
>>544104099actually the entire world would mass die off if we started only worrying about us
>>544100601Kek!
>>544104145And?
>>544093603>defeated racism>people are just like plant seedsWrong, racism wasn't defeated by a midwit argument.
>>544094156Yes, environmental factors exist, kikeSo why when we control for them using carefully devised experiments, do niggers consistently tongue our collective anus?Is it because environmental factors aren't the cause of their analingus in this case?
>>544104322well you're complaining uniformed people following 200 year old code with the weight of the actual world on their shoulders aren't doing more. If the average person knew what they were up against you can be sure they wouldn't be so gung ho and willing to accept jewish nonsense
>>544094156>>544096799For all of you big IQ chuds in here, let me simplify the example. You clone albert einstein. One clone grows up in America, the other in Somalia. The Somalian einstein is exposed to lead and other impurities in the soil, less nutrition (famine), and constant psychological trauma relative to the einstein that grows up in say an avg suburban household. The Somalian einstein will have a lower IQ score and be shorter as both of these metrics are directly correlated to childhood nutrition and exposure to lead. Very simple. YES IQ is definitely hereditary and YES environment can enhance or decrease (usually decrease) it's expression.
>>544094156Damn I’m getting hungry
>>544104711nobody cares
>>544104636That's not what I'm saying at all actually.
>>544098586I can tell you don't know the scientific method and don't know what logic is. "Racial differences are superficial" is oxymoronic. The racial differences are definitive. You can't attempt to reduce them to superficiality and affirming their existence while trying to deny their existence and performative impact. The biology of the issue absolutely functions. >Fst scores show far less difference between racial groups than between species, subspecies or cultivars of plants.You're trying to say that differences existing is proof of race not existing. You cannot actually win this argument. Humans aren't even technically a single species at this point because of the multi-regional hypothesis getting confirmed. This means that races are beyond mere subspecies and into different species territory. By attempting to use plant taxonomy as an interface for humanoid research, you're demonstrating that you suffer from a kind of cogno-lexical disconnect that prevents you from grasping the underlying concepts behind words. The result of this disorder is a tendency to price haggle with objective truth, because you don't actually believe in truth. You'll acknowledge that race exists, but attempt to say it isn't different enough to be meaningful, but it's already inherently meaningful by virtue of it's existential nature. You're ultimately pulling a "men are women too" routine.
>>544104841okay what are you saying bulbhead
>>544104789Well apparently the point being mad ein the paragraph flies over most people's heads. Flint Michigan has had a lead water pipe crisis for forever. The whites there have lower IQ due to lead exposure not because they are genetically inferior to whites growing up in Aspen. Yes, you can sabotage a population's IQ via environmental pollution.
>>544104946flint infrastructure is abandoned and mistreated because it's run by black people
>>544093603all memeflags are israeli
>>544104979>jews flood cities with minorities>whites leave>city runs out of tax revenue>city runs out of competence>infrastructure rots>city tries cost cutting measures that severely damage infrastructure, because lack of competence>gives everyone lead poisoning >it's an environmental thing
>>544093841Claiming there is no genetic variance in iq is tantamount to claiming evolution and natural selection do not exist. To claim such, undermines the entire worldview of the secularist
>>544093603For those of you who don't know, the author, Jay Joesph, is a non-scentific crusader against IQ Hereditarianism, because he knows it's ultimate conclusion falls back to blacks being an inherently inferior sub-species. And he and his cohorts of communist smoothbrains have been pushing a disinformation campaign to undermine and discredit the objective reality of innate intelligence differences between the races.
>>544105655ever since computer genomes and genetics btfo jews I don't think they've been having a good time
>>544093603>defeatedHe did not. Wtf. You were in coma or what?
>>544105655If you believe in any version of heritability and the evolution of man, you logically have to conclude that IQ is deeply heritable, otherwise you uproot the entire premise that we evolved from early, less intelligent species of hominid. Its completely nonsensical
>>544093603>Richard Lewontin>ay vayevery time
>>544093603and to not to be just plain antizionistguy claims genetic study in 1970 when human genome was fully reasearched in 2000+pottery
>>544093603Any retard with a phone can disprove this just by looking at a map of genomes by country of originThere is larger variation between whites and blacks than between a golden retriever and a wolf
>>544093603The guy who discovered DNA thinks that's gay and retarded.
>>544096372Fucking pisses me off unbelievably. I have hypothetical conversations like this with LLM's all the time. Profound hypotheses, thoughts, ideas. None of it publishable, at least I thought. Now reading shit like this has me spiraling at how fake everything is. Taking various tests, measuring myself, creating problems, I've found out I'm two to three standard deviations off the bell curve and considerably more intelligent than I ever thought I was, more than most people by any metric. Growing up it was always essentially beaten out of me to 'humble' myself, or not have any esteem.Fuck it all. Fucking kike motherfuckers, man. I want retribution.
>>544093603then why are jews the smartest people on earth by a mile?
>>544094741Brother you don't need "jewdar" for this, no remote sensing, or SIGINT. This is identify on sight.
>>544093603"A paragraph"Pretty sure that's not how any sort of evidence works. Not clicking your link. Buy an ad.
>>544094156>suppose we equate niggers to normal people
>>544094156why cant i bury human eggs in sand and grow humans?
>>544093603How did he do it or no bumb
>>544093603IQ is not about race white goyim. Now let me steal your genes while tell the rest of you to miscegenate with niggers
>>544096043This
>>544093603A thought experiment does not prove or disprove anythingit is simply masturbation.>an analogy makes sense in my head>therefore the real data is no longer trueSophistry is not scienceThe actual data shows that even with equal opportunity and support certain bloodlines simply do not produce intelligent peoplearabs, for example
>>544093603https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lewontin>Early life and education>Lewontin was born in New York City to parents descended from late 19th-century Ashkenazi Jewish immigrants.Golly I never would have guessed.
>>544094945Fucking beautiful anon.Africa for Africans (it's not like it's not big enough), Asia for asians, and the western hemisphere for those who developed every corner of the world. And the toilet for parasites and poos, hopefully before they destroy all life on the planet.
>>544095307Don't forget aborigines everywhere. And women. Doesn't matter how intelligent you are if a chemical and physical imbalance drives you fucking insane for 7 out of every 28 days.
